plaetton:
We read in the bible that Jesus, supposed son of the Supposed creator of the universe , came to Earth some 2000yrs ago, walked among humans and cured some diseases, many of them epidemic diseases like Leprosy, Polio, etc. Though He supposedly cured a few people of their personal ailments, the son of God, with the sum of all knowledge in the universe, failed or should we say, forgot to eradicate those diseases permanently.
After Jesus supposedly left the Earth , nothing changed in terms how humanity dealt with diseases and epidemics. Nothing changed at all.

2000yrs later , it took the scientific curiosity and endeavors of puny mortals(whose names you may not have even heard of ) in 1873 to discover that Leprosy was not caused by demons nor was it a punishment from Jesus's father. No, it was caused by a certain Bacterium. The first treatment became available in 1940. Halleluja !!

Ever since, there have been many different disease epidemics. And always, the scientific ingenuity of mortal humans have risen to the challenges and saved mankind.
Science ( When humankind speaks in one Tongue) has not cured all the diseases in the imperfect world that the perfect God supposedly created, but it has made tremendous progress in extending our lives and helping us manage a better quality of life.

So, when God goes Awol, Science stands up for humankind.

Maximus69:


God's work is not to cure diseases!

It's to tell you the cause and what he is doing to end it permanently. When Jesus walked the earth, he cured diseases NOT because it's his duty but he is campaigning for a government that's going to end all human suffering, so to prove that nothing will be impossible when that government begin it's rule Jesus had to show us examples of what we will experience globally when God's kingdom comes!

From your post it's clear that you've been with misinformed churchgoers for long and they've filled your minds with fallacies, so if you've not met the TRUE Christians you'll continue to misconstrue the concept.

For your information God didn't bring the diseases, in fact he gave humans rules that will help them prevent such outbreak, but after humans have ignored the warnings and the consequences of their disobedience comes, they'll begin blaming God for what they brought upon themselves!

LordReed:


The god that supposedly created the universe is taking thousands of years to send sicknesses and disease? Like how does this sound reasonable?

Maximus69:


Tell me what he supposed to do when those he wants to cure are still doing things that will bring back the diseases?

So i believe it sounds reasonable when he set a time to allow mankind realize that we need his guidance to keep on living without getting sick or dying!

Joshthefirst:
Dont mind him.

God has set a time for complete eradication of evil in this world, and he won’t just eliminate sickness, he’ll eliminate sin completely. He’ll eliminate murderers and rapists and thieves, but he’ll also eliminate liars and blasphemers and adulterers as well.

God still let’s the play go on so that plaetton and his cohorts will repent of their sins and be reconciled to him through Christ, but they continue to insult his patience. Meanwhile millions of people around the world are turning to Christ.

Make no mistake plaetton and other mockers, the God who gave you minds that you use to imagine vain and foolish things will appear on the scene. But when the director openly appears on the scene, it means the the play has come to an end.

LordReed:


You make your god sound like a wuss. So the god that made the universe will remove sickness and disease then someone else will bring it back? Like what kind of stupid weak god is that?

You claim to be intellectual and scientifically oriented, yet you fail to follow the traditional scientific process to determine your knowledge. Have you even read the Bible before to know what it says about these things? I guess NO, because you feel you are all-knowing, so you don't need to look at a "book of fairy tales" to exercise your thinking. You are seriously dumb, no amount of gibberish you type here can disprove that.

plaetton:

Of course.
What else can you say ?

If god does his things whenever he wishes, after several thousand years, then pls tell me why generations of humans like you , spend your short lives praying and beseeching gold , even trying to bribe him at times, to change situations for your personal benefit ?

Are you not indirectly admitting that religion is a big waste of time, because no matter how much you worship, pray, fast and sow seeds, the will of God, which takes thousands of years to unfold, cannot ever bend for the whimsical yearnings of mortal humans ?

Danhumprey:
These guys don't think things through before they post.

subtlemee:


scientists must have developed their own brain then

LordReed:


You make your god sound like a wuss. So the god that made the universe will remove sickness and disease then someone else will bring it back? Like what kind of stupid weak god is that?

Danhumprey:
These guys don't think things through before they post.

Maximus69:


It's the misinformed churchgoers that has given people various misconceptions making you guys to see God as the one who should be responsible even for the calamity mankind brought upon themselves!

Danhumprey:
Loooool! Yeah. please shift! I do not have the strength for a back and forth with a Jehovah's witness, abeg.

Maximus69:


He is the Creator just like a manufacturer who provides an instructional manual for the consumer not to mishandle the device.

Our bodies needed to be well kept and we need to know certain things that can harm us so as to stay away from such things.

You can't expect the manufacturer to follow you everywhere you go for the device which he has given a manual on how to operate it on your own freewill.

So i fully grasp the concept very well and i can explain to anyone who is willing to see reasons why we must take responsibility for how we handle what we were given!

Maximus69:


I never intended dragging issues with you but it's just to prove that what those misinformed churchgoers infused in your brains about God was misconceptions.

So if you don't feel like understanding what the Bible really teach it's OK!

It's a free world. Nobody can force you to believe in the existence of a Creator neither can you pluck out his image in the brains of those who grasped the concept!

LordReed:


This is called pivoting if you don't know what you are doing. You said your god was going to take something away now you are talking about something completely different. Can you address the issue instead of twisting like a snake?

Well then how do you relate your claims to the eternal life promised to those who follow Jesus (especially in times of trials and tribulations), as it is written in the Bible?

Yeah of course, you're definitely going to regard that as another fable, but on the basis of what the Bible says in relation to the tribulations as expressed in these afflictions, how then can it be logical to conclude that God is useless to those who believe in Him just because His people are also victims of the same circumstance? If Christians were not affected, it's still people like you that would rise up and say that God is practising favouritism. You see that you're really not going anywhere but just looking for a way to put God in the box? This world is bigger than what you think your brain can process. God is supreme, He has His own times and seasons to do whatever He wants, and no one can question Him or change His plans, no matter how you lot mock Him and His people.

You don't know the BIBLE, you have probably just read some parts of it just to suite your preconceived notions. You obviously don't know or understand anything about what is written there, and you can't blame anyone for that because you chose not to.

PS: Mr. knowItAll, how would I communicate with you if I was blind or couldn't read?

Danhumprey:
Oh! Trust me, I do know and understand what the Bible really teach. And it's all bullshits and absolute bunkum!

But then, you wouldn't know this or acknowledge it because your brain have been indoctrinated with all that stuffs and what more, you're so good at selective, cherry-picking of Bible passages.

Maximus69:


Please let's address one another with due respect!

Remember you and i have had issues before and we've put it all behind, now is the time to reason together like mature minds. I'm not the one feeding you neither are you my boss, each one has the freewill to choose whatever we like to do with our lives.

So instead of insulting one another, why not listen and learn what your neighbor had in mind? After all i'm not attacking you neither forcing you to accept my God!

God will remove sickness and death for good, but first of all humans need to learn from the experience of those whose actions brought about sickness and death in the first place, so that we can avoid committing the same blunder as they did. That's what i'm saying!

If he removes it when humans haven't learnt how to avoid causing themselves harm, that means he will never get the honour be deserves as the Creator who said "out of all the creatures on planet earth,i made this ones in my own image" yet we can't live together in love and peace just as perfect intelligent beings worthy of been referred to as images of an all intelligent being!

Danhumprey:


Loooool @ the bolded.

An omniscient god still let the play to go on, with the hope that Plaetton and other atheists, unbelievers, will turn to him eventually at some time in the future?

Dude, do you take time to think through what you type before posting? Like does it make sense to you?

An omniscient god, who ostensibly knows the beginning from the end, the end from the beginning, he knows everything, even before they happens, he most obviously knows already whether Plaetton and other unbelievers like him, will actually come back or not, but this God is waiting for such a time when it will happen, when he could as well quicken the time and speed things up fast, save his "innocent children, believers" from needless suffering.

So much for an omniscient god.

LordReed:


That's a very flawed reasoning. It is like telling me your child will acknowledge you as father more because you built a house after it was born rather than before. That the child needs to experience homelessness before it can appreciate what a new house means.

In the case of humans not only is this god allowing us to be afflicted by terrible conditions, he let's us wallow in it for thousands of years. Please what kind of sadist is this your god that it can watch human suffering for thousands of years and be unmoved?

Maximus69:


That's human reasoning!

So far we are Adam's descendants and majority of us still behave like rebels he is not seeing any difference. To him we're all Adam suffering what we brought upon ourselves.
Moreover none of us matter to him that much until we're able to inculcate the desired qualities he wanted in Adam.

Almost 9,000,000 persons are working hard to meet that requirements now and he is saying the releif will come soon!
Nobody can hurry him to change his mind on what he has planned to do, patience is what repentant descendants of Adam needs now because to him we're all rebels (descendants of rebels) !

LordReed:


What a concept, that's is called wickedness. Continuing to subject human beings to suffering because you have a plan? No thank you.

Maximus69:


That's it.
You call your specie "HUMAN BEING", he call all of us "Adam"!

Time means nothing to him because his own kind are SPIRIT BEINGS so time has no effect on their being!

Anas09:

Plaetton, have you ever heard of 'back to sender or he who digs a pit shall fall into it?' The Chinese scientists created Coronavirus to kill people, now God shd be the one to stop it?

Hahahahahahaha. Age does not come with wisdom as far as you are concerned obviously.

LordReed:


Because he is wicked that's why it means nothing to him or at least a callous being.

Maximus69:


Well i see him as a strict and impartial judge!

LordReed:


Then we can stop pretending you a preaching a god of love or salvation.

Maximus69:


That's human reasoning!

So far we are Adam's descendants and majority of us still behave like rebels he is not seeing any difference. To him we're all Adam suffering what we brought upon ourselves.
Moreover none of us matter to him that much until we're able to inculcate the desired qualities he wanted in Adam.

Almost 9,000,000 persons are working hard to meet that requirements now and he is saying the releif will come soon!
Nobody can hurry him to change his mind on what he has planned to do, patience is what repentant descendants of Adam needs now because to him we're all rebels (descendants of rebels) !