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| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 6:59pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:. Lol okay agreed what about you are you tubaben chritain? Because your forefathers were never Christians,That's why I said your logic is whack. Your argument doesn't hold water. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 7:05pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Bross brink out your source, this is not "mai shai joint" where you can tell all the lies in this world. I want to see your source |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 7:05pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:All I know is must of the house in southern Borno are mixed both Christain and Muslims living under the same roof for ages. You can't divide us, your suggestions and opinion are DOA |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:06pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:This unrepentant obtuse im.becile summarizes all the reforms by muhammad salman into just publicly trading saudi aramco. LOL! What about the more progressive policies, the tech hubs being built and saudis investment in major tech companies in the world amongst other things? Just because on such step failed makes it an exercise in futility? what a clown! The majority of gbagyis in abuja are muslim. Infact the state itself is named after a man called Abu (abubakar) who was fair and in hausa terms referred to as ja (red). Not that it matters what religion they follow. In the end, if we want it, we will take it for ourselves. Theres a reason why we moved the capital there. Let me quote an excerpt from the kano chronicles for you about your kwararafa: "The thirteenth Sarki was Kanajeji. His father's name was Yaji. His mothier's naiime was Aunaka. He was a Sarki who engaged in many wars. He hardly lived in Kano at all, but scoured the country round and conquered the towns. He lived for some tinme near the rock of Gija. He sent to the Kworarafa and asked why they did. not pay him tribute. Tliey gave him two hunidred slaves. Then he returned to Kano and kept sending the Kworarafa horses while they continued to send him slaves" one of many such quotes about how impotent your people are. This is who you'll always be to us. We will crush you as we please. But the numbers or demographics dont matter, in the end we built that state. We made it what it is and we will take it whether you like it or not and theres nothing you impotent ninnies can do about it. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:09pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:I have already quoted the spectator index as my source multiple times before. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 7:11pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Which stupid spectator index? I want a world-renowned organization slowpoke |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:13pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:LOL This clown doesnt know what the spectator index is ![]() Shame on you. What is so hard to believe about hausa speakers in Nigeria numbering over a 100 mil? Okay, what % of nigerians would you say speak hausa? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 7:21pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:You are a fool. Spectator index is not a recognized institution for any serious population data, the only institution recognised the world over for such information is the Cia factbook |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 7:22pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Henceforth, I'm not going to continue this stupid back and forth augment with you, you lack the capacity to engage in any meaningful debate. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:24pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:@Myobjective, pls you are too intelligent to waste your time with the slowpoke... Imagine the slowpoke claiming that Benue is the only state that Hausa is not spoken? Meanwhile, Kogi & Kwara people do not speak Hausa in their majority. Even Nupe people do not speak Hausa unless they leave their homelands to stay in Jos, Kaduna, Kano. This boy is a small boy who knows nothing. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:26pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:LOL Why are you hell bent on lying to yourself. FYI i dont count kogi and kwara as "northern states" but even in kogi there are still hausa speakers. Nupes dont speak hausa but somehow when their governor is at a rally he communicates to them in hausa. LOOOL! What a dweeb! Again, what percentage of nigerians would you reckon speak hausa? Answer the question. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:29pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:All Nigerian Christians are TUBEBE, so we don't use it to insult each other. We Christians all take pride equally in our culture, history and traditional religions, unlike your Hausa masters who want to be more Islamic than Arabians and take pride in the fact that their forefathers have been muslims, hence they see you guys as fake or lesser muslims. Do you remember what happened to Sheik Gwoza? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:30pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:LOL What kind of deluded pangolin is this? The CIA factbook is inconsistent and outdated with no recent figures on this particular issue. There is no one who set the standard for which data is acceptable or not, various sources can be quoted when dealing with population like the UN or any recognizable body. The spectator index is known for their research and data analysis on issues ranging from current affairs to finance and economics. Just answer the simple question, what percentage of nigerians do you reckon speak hausa? mind you, hausas and fulanis already make up at least 35-40 percent of the population. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:32pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:Only Bura and Shani people are mixed religion. Kibakus, Marghis and Gwoza (bayan Dutse) are all Christians. We can't divide u, but you are here claiming affinity with all northern muslims and Hausa fulanis? Then let us too start claiming affinity with Igbos and let's see where it will end us all. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:44pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Majority of Gbagyis in Abuja are muslims? Ogbeni, what version of weed did you smoke? Mention one Gbagyi part of FCT that is muslim majority.90 of Gbagyis in FCT are Christians. It is the Egburas in Abaji and the Ganagana/Dibo in Kwali who are majority muslims. Bwari, Kuje & Amac Gbagi communities are 90% Christian, while Gwagwalada, Kwali are like 70% Christian. Only Abaji is a 50/50 because of Egburas who dominate Abaji town. Even in Niger state where you have most Muslim Gbagyis, Christians are still more 60/40 and most of the Gbagyi muslims are centred around Minna and not close to Abuja... Tafa, Munya, Shiroro & Gurara which share boundary with Abuja are 80% Christian. .... You know nothing! Come and take Abuja let's see how you will do it ![]() Even Kaduna will be difficult for you to take, let alone Abuja. The money KSA hoped to get from Saudi Aramco was what they hoped to use in building the new $500 billion city (to rival Dubai)... Now that it is a failure, the city will never come to pass...That city was their future, just like Dubai. Saudi is going nowhere till the oil becomes irrelevant in the next decade and they go back to riding Camels the way they were used to before Westerners discovered the usefulness of crude oil. You are just quoting nonsense. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:54pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:LMAO that burkutu must have eaten up your amygdala. The funny thing is the people living the rural areas of abuja wont dictate its destiny. Like i said, muslim or christian, it doesnt matter. Abuja is ours and theres nothing you can do about it. Kaduna is a foregone conclusion. And if we want, we will take plateau as well. Neom is still being aimed for 2025 and those plans havent changed. You saying saudi needs money from publicly trading aramco is the dumbest thing i've seen on this forum and thats saying something. Aramco was supposed to fund part of the project not all of it, approximately 20%, so how is it dead because of aramco? what a stupid jackass. Neom is under construction as we speak. Let the envy and hatred choke you to death. The city is a failure, LMAO What an undiluted fool. Please a simple google search will save you from embarrassing yourself here. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:54pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Many Nupes migrate to live in Minna, Kaduna, Zaria, Kano that is why they speak Hausa. This is the same way many of them speak Yoruba too cos they are all over Yoruba land and are known as TAPA. Go to Bida, Kutigi, Lapai, Mokwa e.t.c and speak Hausa and see.... Even Hausas in Bida and Kutigi have to speak Nupe. In my opinion, assuming there are 200 million Nigerians and 100 million goes to Southern Nigeria + Kwara and the rest goes to the North/middlebelt, then I'd say 80 million Nigerians speak Hausa.(40%). Because we remove Tivs, Idomas, Igalas, Ebiras & Nupes who don't speak Hausa and we also remove some interior elderly villagers among large ethnic groups in Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Taraba, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Southern Gombe, Southern Kebbi, Borno and Niger east/FCT who only speak their native languages. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 7:57pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Seriously? So no Muslim in Marghi lol no Muslim in Matakam (gowza bayan dutse) lol you are a joker. Even Michika in Adamawa has muslims in fact Bachamma, lungula that are majority Christians have indigenous muslims in their midst talkless of Marghi and Gwoza tribes that they are about 50 50 |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 7:59pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:First of all, southern nigeria doesnt have 100 million people, just stop. If ethnic hausas and fulanis who predominantly speak hausa make up 40% of the population, where is the account for the other minorities like your people who have adopted hausa. But lets play your game here, if there are 80 million hausa speakers in nigeria, including numbers for niger sudan chad and co puts that number at over a 100m. so hausa being the most spoken indigenous african language isnt a reach even by your biased conservative estimates. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 8:00pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:Dude, this guy is sooo deluded. Man claimed over 50% of kaduna is christian in some thread. Hes a bona fide clown. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 8:03pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:My way of thinking might be different from yours maybe because of the environment where I was brought up, I was brought up in a more secular environment of working-class people from different tribes and religion hence the reason why I respect lots of Christians and other tribes thou Nairaland has little negative effect on me because of what I see here on daily basis. What happens to Shiekh Gwoza ?? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:05pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:If u want u will take Plateau? and you think we will watch you when you do? Have you even finish taking Bauchi that you want to come to Plateau? There are 2 big towns in Bauchi that your people cannot enter (were chased out), go and take those towns first.... Shameless cowards!With all the sponsors you people have to buy weapons, yet you were reduced to minorities in all the Angwas in South of Kaduna river, once fight starts, you see trailers coming to evacuate the muslim minorities in Barnawa, meanwhile we who dominate 3 Angwas in Kaduna north give you people fire for fire! Yet we don't have any sponsors. Do you think a full scale war will be like normal crisis where the army comes in to save you people? The whole of Southern Nigeria will be backing my people, then we see who will win. The Arabs will never be a force to reckon with forever and ever whether they build a city or not.... While the Westerners are very very united, many Arab countries don't see eye to eye and are puppets of westerners while others are puppets of Russians. The Chinese & Indians are the ones people even look up to as emerging people, not even Arabs. Who takes Arabs seriously? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 8:05pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:If 50% of kaduna are Christians as he claims why wouldn't they govern the state as they are doing in Jos. Anyway El Rufai proved him wrong in the past election |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 8:12pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:The invention of the card reader was the worst thing to happen to them. Exposed their empty chest beating. Apparently 60 40 was a generous split on our end. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:12pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:Marghis in Uba, Lassa & Askira are 95% Christians... It is those in Madagali (Adamawa) that have a significant Muslim minority. Of course, Michika has Muslims, almost every tribe in the north has Muslims! Just like every tribe has Christians including Hausa, fulani and Kanuri! So what the fuss? The point is that you cannot call a tribe that is 20% or less Muslim/Christian a mixed tribe.... Unless from 30% and above where they can be called a significant minority. Muslims in Michika are not up to 20% and that is why they are being evicted by the Christians... Christians and Muslims can hardly fight each other in an ethnicity that is 50/50, 60/40 or even 65/35. Gwoza town is muslim majority and that is why I said Gwoza (Bayan Dutse) which is 90% Christian. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 8:18pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 6:18am On Feb 29, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Bauchi has a muslim governor and 3 muslim senators. 10/11 muslim reps members. What is this clown talking about? bauchi? i laugh in swahili! Look at you, already begging the southerners to save you when they cant save themselves. Your people are spineless slaves, always have been, you cant do sh-t. But the arabian caliphate was one of the greatest empires ever built, they were a force to be reckoned with and still are in their region. Again, who are your people again? If no one takes arabs seriously what do we say about your people? ![]() |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 8:19pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
This man is really trying to claim relevance in bauchi LMAO ![]() |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:23pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:You muslims think politics is the best way to judge population, but that is very wrong. Do you know that a Muslim has never been President of Burkina Faso? Yet Burkina Faso is clearly a Muslim majority country.... Christians are a minority there but right from the colonial days, they have held power and hold it till date. Same thing happened in Chad where the 40% Christian minority dominated the nation's politics until the muslims did a coup and took back power. Same thing in Cameroon, where the fulani muslim minority dominated politics after independence until the Christian majority took over forever and ever. The best way to determine the religion of a place in Nigeria is by bringing out the demography of that place and analyzing it. Old Kaduna state was like 80% muslim when Katsina was part of it and Southern Kaduna people were used to being a voiceless minority from the beginning. Somethings are not the way we see them. Like I always tell your likes. Muslims have produced elected Senators in Plateau central, Adamawa south & Taraba north.... Are these places Muslim majority? Yes or no? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 8:26pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:I have a very close friend here in Abuja he is from Lassa his dad is a pastor and his family is a mixed one. We once had a friendly argument and we reached a conclusion that Muslims and Christians are about 40 60 Christians being the highest. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 8:26pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:True |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:27pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:So, how come with all this power that the Muslims have in Bauchi state, yet Sayawa people who are like 10% of the state are dealing with you people? Is it not a shame and a show of your weakness? There is no LGA in Plateau that a Christian cannot enter but you people cannot enter Bogoro LGA and half of Tafawa Balewa... Are you not ashamed? Oga, I get am before nor be property! There are many powerful kingdoms of the past whose descendants today are irrelevant! E.g the Mongols who almost conquered the entire world... Where are they today? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by fk002: 8:31pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:So which criteria did you follow that made up your hypothesis of the predominant religion in Kaduna is Christianity? |
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