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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Timisamd(m): 6:38pm On Jan 11, 2020
Preditor:


wat abt d millions of children born as siamese, born blind, crippled, into families dat can't afford a balanced meal, aborted, born wit aids... n most of dem dnt even get better till dey die(frm any of those)... Nw tell me y he made dem like dat

That's still where ure getting it mixed .. Isn't it ?
I mentioned something about fate in my other quote .. At times it seems so unfair even checking we that eat balanced meal and uncrippled .. It a force and this main reason should tell you that this things just doesn't happen by chance or mere nature ( though some can be traced scientifically) ..

Now thinking of this .. Why can't I be born into a reach family , or even into the poor one .. Why average ..

It has a force behind it !!!!!

If we were to think logically or scientifically, statistically, it infrequently and random .. We can predict the world of humans cos we happened to be governed by an implicit force that we by philosophy and thinking critically just find ans to them our self's and we live by it ..

If a child is born crippled so is one born healthy isn't it ? Why is the one born healthy not crippled ? Will you tell me ? Of course you don't have the ans , did you ? ..

Some things also were made to happen just for us to be exposed to the kind of life he wanted us to see ... Don't say why war and pain ...
But think of the view of which we see it and how we strife to be separated from it ..

I've said much . so many unending .. Life is just gorv
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Timisamd(m): 6:42pm On Jan 11, 2020
Preditor:


yu c, even if god is real, Christianity is'nt... So u dnt knw d part of d bible dat legalizes rape... Hw wld yu, wen yu guys picky pick d parts of d bible yu want n leave d rest... Or re yu guys jst tryna hide his Flaws??

Well .. Lol ..
I get your point now ..
You're simply saying he doesn't exist because he is not good ..

Is it only were he legalized rape that you see ?
You're simply

Or where else ..

Did you read john Mathew or perhaps Luke and the acts ?

Am sure you didn't ?
Did you ?

Lol
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Timisamd(m): 6:48pm On Jan 11, 2020
Preditor:

tell urself d truth bra, dere re millions of religions n in abt years frm nw, urs will be extinct n newer ones will come to replace it, I'm even thinkin of trying a new religion, maybe their god doesn't make crippled people

Hahaha sarcasm isn't it ? That's what it is ..

You're only talking about religion just because all your claims still is claiming the existence of God ..

Don't stress yourself abt a new religion bra .. Cos u might still be shocked it create that feeble handed kid ..

At the end we're both living in mystery the difference is that one one acclaimed it to something withholding it while the other claimed the watch exist without the watch maker
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Timisamd(m): 6:52pm On Jan 11, 2020
Preditor:


yeah, there is Always an excuse... Hav yu considered oda reasons lyk
d muslim god, allah, does'nt want yu 2 knw bcux yu nt worshipping him, or dat d hindu god does'nt lyk sharing secrets

Wow .. I'd have been so wrong. .
But I realized the Muslims God doesn't appear to them on their sallah night .. Nor I've i ever heard head the Hindus play soccer with their God ..
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 2:51pm On Jan 17, 2020
englishmart:
Isaac wasn't an Israeli, Jacob his son was.

Agreed,

Lets trace the Prophets from Jacob;
Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah Amos et al even Jesus Christ all came from Israel,
Why would your supposedly 'Last and greatest Prophet' comes from far Saudi Arabia,.... Wont that be tantamount to confusion like Nigerian government quota system
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 2:55pm On Jan 17, 2020
Snowale:
There are many other prophets/Messangers apart from the one you stated, right from the first Prophet Adam. If all prophet are sent to the peoope of Isreal alone, the the disbelievers from other nations would say, "The preachings are for Isreal alone"

Kindly educate me on those Prophets that are not Israelites?
Israel relationship with God as captured on the holy writs is a relationship steming from generation to generation, which is a window to reach the larger world.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jan 17, 2020
Timisamd:


Solely it obvious am only supporting the existence of God , I.e am a theist but am not religious to the core ..

Well about the location ..

It is not for me to determine , is it ?
An India will be on another proposition abt God which is unarguably the diversity we have in religion ..I.e different views or notion about one system ..

I'd decided not to bother myself on this topic ..
Just do a little about it ..
Be logical and those that fails to be logically emphasized .. Leave it ...

Thanks .


The God in Hindu is different from Allah and Allah is different from God in Christianity.

Look up the context...

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jan 17, 2020
jendoslim:


Kindly educate me on those Prophets that are not Israelites?
Israel relationship with God as captured on the holy writs is a relationship steming from generation to generation, which is a window to reach the larger world.
Though, most prophets were Israelites, right from Abraham, the remaining prophets were descendants of Abraham, till the last prophet, Muhammad(PBUH), the last prophet wasn't an isreaIite, he was an Arab, about 6 prophets before him we're isreaIite, only Jesus was sent to Israel, Moses wasn't sent to Israel, he was sent to the people of pharaoh, and pharaoh himself. The last prophet was sent to all mankind. And him being an Arab, his scriptures was written in Arabic, not in Hebrew et Al.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Brunicekid(m): 9:40pm On Jan 17, 2020
Snowale:
Though, most prophets were Israelites, right from Abraham, the remaining prophets were descendants of Abraham, till the last prophet, Muhammad(PBUH), the last prophet wasn't an isreaIite, he was an Arab, about 6 prophets before him we're isreaIite, only Jesus was sent to Israel, Moses wasn't sent to Israel, he was sent to the people of pharaoh, and pharaoh himself. The last prophet was sent to all mankind. And him being an Arab, his scriptures was written in Arabic, not in Hebrew et Al.
JESUS is more than just calling him a Prophet. He is the SON OF GOD.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by LuciusX: 9:46pm On Jan 17, 2020
Puh-leez get tha Bleep out!

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 7:13am On Jan 18, 2020
Brunicekid:
JESUS is more than just calling him a Prophet. He is the SON OF GOD.
Everyone can call himself son of God, you can call yourself son of God, but no one can call himself, the biological son of God, Only man can impregnate a woman. Jesus is a prophet, he was sent to the people of israeI, people conspired against him, just like other prophets, they tried to kill him, we all know he prayed to God to save him, but God doesn't answer all prayer or God doesn't answer all our prayers the way we wanted. Jesus is a prophet sent by God to the people of Israel.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Timisamd(m): 9:42pm On Jan 20, 2020
maynia:



The God in Hindu is different from Allah and Allah is different from God in Christianity.

Look up the context...

Just like speaking Hindu and Arabic is different from talking ..
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by TheSourcerer: 7:29am On Jan 22, 2020
englishmart:
I guess I'm beginning to wake up to that reality.
you're an Atheist?
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by k4kenny(f): 9:47am On Jan 22, 2020
Daejoyoung:


lol my problem with all these is that Allah has many issues to address which he was silent on, like human slavery and how muslims should see slaves as their brother in humanity, and other issues at least, but allah had to spend time addressing things like these?
Also Surah 111, that entire surah is about Muhammed's uncle and Allah reigning curses on him, Punishments he would receive in Hellfire(both he and his wife) and so on. Can you imagine? Allah dedicated an entire chapter of the Quran just to curse Muhammed's uncle?
l mean l'm not saying you should reject the quran as the word of God, and l am not saying that God can't be so interested in stuff like these ( heck God even reveals verses concerning Muhammed's marital issues), l am just saying they are quite interesting to me and l find it hard to believe.
A more likely explanation to me is that the Quran is a book reflecting the meditations of Muhammed and dealing with his personal life and other stuffs around his society.

There are verses of equality of all mankind, how no race is superior to another, except in piety and good acts.

Q49.10 Mankind is but a single brotherhood, so make peace with your bretheren.


Q49.13 O mankind, We have created you from a single male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know(differentiate between) eachother. Indeed the most noble pf you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you....

Q 60.8 Behave with kindness and equality with non believers. P.S the verses people spread around regarding violence to the pagans were specifically revealed during the periods of combat.

On Slavery

2: 177 ...and freeing of slaves. It's a really long verse about righteousness

Q90.13 ...It is the freeing of slaves.


The Qu'ran deals with issues of the past(the previous prophets), some of the present issues Prophet Mohammed(saw) was dealing with at the time and what's to come at the end of time. It is a book of guidance, warning and glad-tidings for mankind.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 7:52pm On Jan 22, 2020
TheSourcerer:
you're an Atheist?
No, sir.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by TheSourcerer: 7:53pm On Jan 22, 2020
englishmart:
No, sir.
hmm shame , Realist?
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 7:58pm On Jan 22, 2020
TheSourcerer:
hmm shame , Realist?
hmmm, Lol, Are you a sorcerer?

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 12:52pm On Feb 12, 2020
[quote author=Snowale post=85603033]There are many other prophets/Messangers apart from the one you stated, right from the first Prophet Adam. If all prophet are sent to the peoope of Isreal alone, the the disbelievers from other nations would say, "The preachings are for Isreal alone"[/quote
Kindly mention other messengers/prophets that was sent apart from Israelites, while at that, ponder on this: why would God send your 'supposedly' last prophet from an entirely different locality that was never referenced by former prophets, or can you attempt drawing a link before Last Prophet and former God's prophets?
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 8:47am On Feb 14, 2020
To quell your minds...

Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 8:59am On Feb 14, 2020
Brunicekid:
JESUS is more than just calling him a Prophet. He is the SON OF GOD.


Dumb-Bunnies

He has a mother...
God had a wife, Asherah, whom the Book of Kings suggests was worshipped alongside Yahweh in his temple in Israel, according to an Oxford scholar.

We all are sons of God. All part of God
Christ showed you the path to live and they made him a son of god like Horus, Hercules,
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 7:21pm On Feb 15, 2020
Brunicekid:
JESUS is more than just calling him a Prophet. He is the SON OF GOD.
We can all call ourselves son of God, but no one can call himself biological son of God
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 7:38pm On Feb 15, 2020
[quote author=jendoslim post=86586764][/quote]It was said in the Bible, when Jesus was leaving his disciples, they were in sorrow, and Jesus said to them, a comforter would soon come to the world, and the comforter would speak for him, and also God, the father. The comforter is Prophet Mohammed. That part is very ambiguous, just like many other sections of the Bible, and you can give any explanation to the verses. God words are very clear, it's just devil in the heart of the Bible translators that changed a lot of things in it and made most part of it seem irrational and ambiguous.

Other prophets before Abraham we're not sent to israel, many Prophets come from israel, because of the blessing of God in the family of Abraham, of all the children of various Propheta before Abraham, none of them seems to be as virtuous as the generation of Abraham, right from the time of Adam, so it's obvious God would like to pick from the virtuous or children of the virtuous and Jesus had no child. The last Prophet was taken from the family of Quraysh, and Arab family, had it been, he was sent to israel, people would say, the religion of God is for Israel alone, but he was sent to the world, unlike Jesus, and the Arabs even ploted against him, he fought for the religion of God, not for Israel or Arab, for the world to believe, unlike Moses and Jesus who were sent to israel, they fought for Israelites.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 1:07pm On Feb 26, 2020
Snowale:
There are many other prophets/Messangers apart from the one you stated, right from the first Prophet Adam. If all prophet are sent to the peoope of Isreal alone, the the disbelievers from other nations would say, "The preachings are for Isreal alone"

You missed the point.
You said other Prophets apart from those Israelites? Kindly mention them.
The Prophets were not sent to Israelite alone, study abeg.. Prophet Daniel who was taken captivity to Babylon is a vivid example
The preaching was never me for Israeli alone that why the great commission is there "Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel"
The point still remains why would your 'supposedly' last Prophet comes from another country apart from the initial known Prophets?
Moreover, how can someone who is miles apart gives a record of things that doesn't happens in his country/native land as if he were present?
No matter how learned/inspired Soyinka is, he can never give an accurate details on what happens in Ghana in past geological ages loke the natives who witnessed such event and documents them.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 1:10pm On Feb 26, 2020
englishmart:
Isaac wasn't an Israeli, Jacob his son was.
Agreed. But other Prophets came from the loins of Jacob, so you are now telling me that the last Prophet will now comes from another place...
That doesn't follow any chronological order please.
The God I know is not a God of confusion
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 5:44pm On Feb 26, 2020
jendoslim:

Agreed. But other Prophets came from the loins of Jacob, so you are now telling me that the last Prophet will now comes from another place...
That doesn't follow any chronological order please.
The God I know is not a God of confusion
Did you read me speak about Muhammad?

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 8:31pm On Feb 26, 2020
After all this plenty talk and talk... The book revelation, the last book of you Bible states in chapter 21:12 about the new Jerusalem.

it had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.

So, which gate was made for an Igbo man.
The religion was purely for the Jews.
Had the Roman emperor Constantine not hijacked it, Christianity wouldn't be causing this plenty talk talk...
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Coloradowater: 8:38pm On Feb 26, 2020
And they stoned the devil every year & he has not get injured! In fact the way it is; it's like he's waxing stronger...... It will take Africans 1000 light years to wake up to reality.



[wquote author=Roycemadeit post=85332152]
I thought it was called devil stoning[/quote]

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 8:46pm On Feb 26, 2020
The Jewish God promised David or Daniel and the foolish Africans are claiming it. And saying "Lord, you said it in you word... Just as you promised..."
Some would sing of Abraham's blessings been theirs... Which Abraham born you? Is Abraham your grandfather's name? They just robbed you of your own beliefs and then you wholly bought into some thing you know just a little of, some thing that was never yours from the get go, something sold to you by those who enslaved you...

It's funny when they say when you die or are raptured you gon be dressed in a spotless white clothing, but they don't tell you that as Africans your skin testifies to the impossibility of you making heaven.

grin
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 12:45am On Feb 27, 2020
jendoslim:


You missed the point.
You said other Prophets apart from those Israelites? Kindly mention them.
The Prophets were not sent to Israelite alone, study abeg.. Prophet Daniel who was taken captivity to Babylon is a vivid example
The preaching was never me for Israeli alone that why the great commission is there "Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel"
The point still remains why would your 'supposedly' last Prophet comes from another country apart from the initial known Prophets?
Moreover, how can someone who is miles apart gives a record of things that doesn't happens in his country/native land as if he were present?
No matter how learned/inspired Soyinka is, he can never give an accurate details on what happens in Ghana in past geological ages loke the natives who witnessed such event and documents them.
MALACHI,ZECHARIAH,HAGGAI,ZEPHANIAH,HABAKKUK,NAHUM,MICAH,JOEL,DANIEL,EZEKIEL,JEREMIAH,ISAIAH, these are all non Israelites Prophet, you are making it seem as if, all Prophets should be or are from Israel, true, many prophets came from Israel, but if all Prophets are from Israel, then the revelations are not to spread around the world, and people will call the religion of God, an Israelite religion.
You might be thinking Israel is a Christian state, the population of Muslims in Israel is close to times 10 of the Christains. Though, Judaism rules about times 4 of the Muslims. The last prophet came from a different tribe, to preach to the world the religion of God, monotheism, and against Judaism and christainity. He preaches in his language not Hebrew
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 3:48am On Feb 27, 2020
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.


2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.


3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome



You haven't met the true Christians!

All these are the misconceptions taught by misinformed churchgoers claiming Christians.

So wait patiently and attend to all those who approach you in the name of God, ask them whatever questions you have in mind. By so doing you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

Christianity is about knowing the truth that will always gladdens your heart each time you wake up to meditate on how ignorance and gullibility is rendering many people hopeless and useless to themselves in their community!

Thanks! smiley
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 8:13pm On Mar 03, 2020
Snowale post=86988587:
MALACHI,ZECHARIAH,HAGGAI,ZEPHANIAH,HABAKKUK,NAHUM,MICAH,JOEL,DANIEL,EZEKIEL,JEREMIAH,ISAIAH
, these are all non Israelites Prophet, you are making it seem as if, all Prophets should be or are from Israel, true, many prophets came from Israel, but if all Prophets are from Israel, then the revelations are not to spread around the world, and people will call the religion of God, an Israelite religion.
You might be thinking Israel is a Christian state, the population of Muslims in Israel is close to times 10 of the Christains. Though, Judaism rules about times 4 of the Muslims. The last prophet came from a different tribe, to preach to the world the religion of God, monotheism, and against Judaism and christainity. He preaches in his language not Hebrew
Please, those Prophets you mentioned here are native of which country? Nigeria or Saudi?
I am not wrangling with you bro, my point is, your Prophet Muhammad shouldn't had muddled up other peoples religion as his and try to get undue credulence by referring to them as progenitors of his phantom claims
God wouldn't have to leave the house of Israel and appoint someone with no genealogy to the Prophets of old as the greatest prophet that you claim

Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by jendoslim(m): 8:20pm On Mar 03, 2020
Snowale:
Everyone can call himself son of God, you can call yourself son of God, but no one can call himself, the biological son of God, Only man can impregnate a woman. Jesus is a prophet, he was sent to the people of israeI, people conspired against him, just like other prophets, they tried to kill him, we all know he prayed to God to save him, but God doesn't answer all prayer or God doesn't answer all our prayers the way we wanted. Jesus is a prophet sent by God to the people of Israel.

Sorry oh bro,
Why do muslims think that there must be a coital knowledge of a woman by man before procreation can occur?
Shallow thinking
Artificial insemination, fertility banks et al are example of strides technology had made to counter this, which is man made
How much more God, the creator of seen and unseen who can do much more than any human capabilities.
It's a great insult, and you are limiting God, by assuming God had to have carnal knowledge before he can bring forth Son which is Jesus Christ

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