YeeboMuslim:

No doctor in a government hospital would transfuse a patient unless it is necessary .
What do you mean by minor cases ??

I once moved my brother to a different hospital because the hospital want him to be transfuse before commencing treatment...... just little shortage of blood he can recover from.
the one when pain me be say them no do any test before them begin talk about blood.



child birth is not something you need blood for in most cases. most hospital now use it as a means to get blood for sale.

child birth is something you prepare for 9 months ahead so you should be able to know which patiently may likely need blood

Donate blood monthly? Weldone. You don't know d trauma of having too much of blood... I pray u won't! i went 4 d checkup last yr decemba and d doc told me i nid to donate monthly 4 d next three month...for this month, i'm donating today at Gbagada General Hospital!

black man, black heart.

everything is a racket with the black man

drlaykay:
in government hospitals, blood is not sold.
You only pay for the screening. The donor will be screened that is, carry out the necessary information to be sure the blood is free of diseases and determine the blood group and compatibility.

You are given blood free but u will be required to replace the blood you were given by looking for a donor.
This is done so that the blood bank won't be empty and emergency transfusion can easily be sorted.

blood that those hospitals sneak to private blood bank for sale?
the screening should be free if they want willing donors

delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.

Maybe if blood donors are given free NHIS pass after certain level will encourage this.


UK awards for 50, 25 and 100 donations



Ruby award from the Singapore Red Cross for 75 voluntary donations

YeeboMuslim:

Lol..You don't understand .

The practice in UCH and most government hospitals is : If a patient needed blood, Blood would be gotten from the blood bank while the relatives pay for screening of the blood because you want to make sure the blood of the would- be recipient and the donor matches. And you also want to make sure the blood isn't infected i.e hiv/ hepatitis .

What they pay for is not the the blood itself but the screening of the blood . Blood itself is totally free in most public hospitals .
If a patient needed 5 units of blood , he/she pays 7k .
Getting that same units of blood in private facilities would cost the patient nothing less than 50k which is even for the cheapest blood group (because the cost even depends on the blood group ).

And the blood must be replaced . So before these free blood units are released from the blood bank , they must be replaced .
Patients' relatives donate the replacement usually but if for some reasons they couldn't donate , they get someone to do it for them ( the relatives pay this kinda person ).

What the general public need to understand about the structure of a government hospital is that no healthworker ( Doctors , Nurses, pharmacists and Lab scientists) comes in direct contact with your money and as such whatever you pay doesn't benefit him directly .

Bro I get to understand you. I have four children in Lagos general hospital and I gave four pints of blood over a period of seven years but my wife never got to use any. So what happens to the blood. Lets say it is used for accident victims, will they not pay and someone tells me NOBODY SELLS BLOOD. Now if the accident patients don't pay but replace then nobody should tell us there is scarcity of blood because families expectant mothers have donated tons of blood which they didn't use. It is simple maths.


Who is fooling who?

munas:


The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.

The money the person who used it paid is not usually accounted for.

Cmanforall:

The problem may even not be the pay but the availability of blood when urgently needed, especially if it is a rarer type of blood group.
I believe It's not the pregnant women that donate these blood. Lagosians should willingly be donating blood in the banks for unforseen circumstances.

Exactly. Rare bloid groups should be in standby.

Lostz:
I once moved my brother to a different hospital because the hospital want him to be transfuse before commencing treatment...... just little shortage of blood he can recover from.
the one when pain me be say them no do any test before them begin talk about blood.



child birth is not something you need blood for in most cases. most hospital now use it as a means to get blood for sale.

child birth is something you prepare for 9 months ahead so you should be able to know which patiently may likely need blood

I'm sure that didn't happen in a government hospital .

I agree with what you said but things happen and you have to prepare for any outcome hence the need for blood in most cases .

May God help us all

Sterope:
The Judge wasn't thinking clearly. It is better to be safe than sorry.

It's never compulsive to donate blood. It's not done anywhere in the world. The right thing is to increase sensitization and possibly provide incentives for people to donate freely. Forget the emotional whatever

7k is outrageous for screening, getting a blood bag,HCV,BHsAg and RVS for screening shouldn't cost more than 3k if we want to tell ourselves the truth.

The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.[/quote]

YeeboMuslim:

I'm sure that didn't happen in a government hospital .

I agree with what you said but things happen and you have to prepare for any outcome hence the need for blood in most cases .

May God help us all

it was in a government hospital (State). we moved to a federal hospital and they did everything without even complaining of blood.

9 months is enough to know which pregnant woman may need blood. you can't be forcing people to donate blood

That's blood money

munas:


Paying through their nose is not even the issue,the issue is availability of blood.

What is they have the money and need 6 pints if blood urgently and the blood is nowhere to be found?

Any body that applauds this judgment does not know how many women and children died due to non availabilty of fresh blood.

For a woman during delivery to need six pints of blood shows that she wasn't even alive

Pinonwa:
7k is outrageous for screening, getting a blood bag,HCV,BHsAg and RVS for screening shouldn't cost more than 3k if we want to tell ourselves the truth.

The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.

we hear

9jaDoomCountry:




Bro I get to understand you. I have four children in Lagos general hospital and I gave four pints of blood over a period of seven years but my wife never got to use any. So what happens to the blood. Lets say it is used for accident victims, will they not pay and someone tells me NOBODY SELLS BLOOD. Now if the accident patients don't pay but replace then nobody should tell us there is scarcity of blood because families expectant mothers have donated tons of blood which they didn't use. It is simple maths.


Who is fooling who?

I understand where you are coming from .
But do you know that blood expires and lose it's essence in about 6 weeks even with appropriate storage . Lol
Even blood gets bad way before that 42 days.

Yes, the relatives of those accident victims would donate to replace the blood too. That's how the system works . And they are well documented and accounted for .

The doctors or nurses don't benefit anything from the blood .

And people should cultivate the habit of donating blood voluntarily. We have over 170million people to do that .

PS : I donate blood twice every year. Been doing that since I was in medical school.

ikorodureporta:
https://www.channelstv.com/2020/03/02/court-stops-lagos-govt-hospitals-from-demanding-blood-donations-for-childbirth/

Nice. Less than 1% of pregnant women would need blood during delivery . Why forcing them to donate, pay for screening and the blood will not be used for them.

Lostz:
it was in a government hospital (State). we moved to a federal hospital and they did everything without even complaining of blood.

9 months is enough to know which pregnant woman may need blood. you can't be forcing people to donate blood

Okay chief .

It's not that easy . Lacerations abi uterine rupture don't tell the doctors they would come during booking . ..
These things happen at times .

May God help us all..

YeeboMuslim:

I understand where you are coming from .
But do you know that blood expires and lose it's essence in about 6 weeks even with appropriate storage . Lol
Even blood gets bad way before that 42 days.

Yes, the relatives of those accident victims would donate to replace the blood too. That's how the system works . And they are well documented and accounted for .

The doctors or nurses don't benefit anything from the blood .

And people should cultivate the habit of donating blood voluntarily. We are have over 170million people to do that .

PS : I donate blood twice every year. Been doing that since I was in medical school.

Blood racketing going on in blood bank is alarming. More blood are being wasted yearly due to poor blood transfusion service.

noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.

They are going to group and cross match the blood you donated, they will screen the blood against hiv, hepatitis b and c and other infections and store it properly. You are paying 7000 naira for this services

yomi007k:


Not bad

I hope they won't start paying through their noses.

We don't want to donate anything yet we want the same service or commodity to be available.
We sure love miracles.

What are they using the blood for?


Lagos state government started Yahoo plus.

joyandfaith:


Nice. Less than 1% of pregnant women would need blood during delivery . Why forcing them to donate, pay for screening and the blood will not be used for them.

When the need arises and you can't get one urgently what will you do? If a pregnant woman dies due to blood loss what will people say? The benefit is more than the risk

solmus:
so you have sense like this.. wow!! I thought wailing 24/7 wouldn't let you speak facts but you finally did... the only time they go to see their lawmakers is only when they need to beg for money or submit their C.V which he throws into his dustbin.. if we engage our reps on real issues no matter what they would table it n the floor of the house

I was going to abuse and insult you thoroughly but decided not to fall for the temptation.
If ever I have wailed for you, why did you not rebut with facts as opposed to opinions?

Lostz:
it was in a government hospital (State). we moved to a federal hospital and they did everything without even complaining of blood.

9 months is enough to know which pregnant woman may need blood. you can't be forcing people to donate blood

U keep repeating the above statement like u are a soothsayer.....
9 months isn't enough to know who will need blood transfusion during labour....
Labour is a different ball game....ok
Stop spreading ignorance all over the place...

If u guys want free healthcare in govt hospitals.....
Hold your politicians responsible and demand they initiate health insurance or waivers....
Stop picking on healthcare workers who are also victim of the poor system.....

As for the judge....
She's just a joker and her ruling is only good as thrash....

Joeboy88:
I donated blood for my sister during delivery.fortunately for us, she put to bed safely and they ended up not using the blood for her.My pain then was that I gave it as a free will donation but it's so painful that the hospital will end up selling the blood & if care isn't taken, it might be sold to someone that has to go borrowing to pay.Pls what is donated free should be give ad free to people in need of it.

I asked a lab scientist this question too. He said the reason they sell donated blood is because it costs a lot to screen donated blood before certifying it healthy for transfusion. I however have my reservation still.
UCH ,Ibadan has one unbelievable act. They tell pregnant women to bring someone (preferably their husbands) to donate blood for them in advance but when there is safe delivery, the donated blood is gone (I have no problem with that), the part that irritates me is that in the event of the need for blood transfusion, the husband is made to still buy blood irrespective of previously donating or not. That to me is scam!

SIRTee15:


U keep repeating the above statement like u are a soothsayer.....
9 months isn't enough to know who will need blood transfusion during labour....
Labour is a different ball game....ok
Stop spreading ignorance all over the place...

9 months is enough. you do a lot of test when close to giving birth. where else in the world do they force relative of pregnant women to donate blood?

anonimi:


I was going to abuse and insult you thoroughly but decided not to fall for the temptation.
If ever I have wailed for you, why did you not rebut with facts as opposed to opinions?

i rebuke you from time to time , perhaps not with this account, your threat of insult is nothing new, even the horse tied to an empty seat is one of my numerous rebuttals and subtle jabs have given you in the past with ways you can use Legislative means to achieve ipob seccession, you can only throw links of image hosting sites about thread littering cyber space with your wailing and repeated images

YeeboMuslim:

I understand where you are coming from .
But do you know that blood expires and lose it's essence in about 6 weeks even with appropriate storage . Lol
Even blood gets bad way before that 42 days.

Yes, the relatives of those accident victims would donate to replace the blood too. That's how the system works . And they are well documented and accounted for .

The doctors or nurses don't benefit anything from the blood .

And people should cultivate the habit of donating blood voluntarily. We are have over 170million people to do that .

PS : I donate blood twice every year. Been doing that since I was in medical school.

It didn't take me time to figure out that I was interacting with a matured mind. I also sensed too that you are in the medical line even before I got to your last sentence.

Having said that, I never know blood expires anyway. I read in one medical journal years back that medical personals in America achieved pregnancy with a sperm cell that had been preserved for twenty two years on a second attempt. I also read that in the western world people with high IQ are asked to donate their sperm for future use, so I thought once preserved and managed well it will remain potent.


Thank you for the education bro.

powerkey:


What are they using the blood for?


Lagos state government started Yahoo plus.

Na for ritual rites...lolz.

noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.

I think whatever is donated freely under such a condition and not used, should be given to indigent patients. Blood donation is done freely in the Western world as a form of social responsibility. If we all do it more often, there'll probably be no need to pay in some cases or the cost will be minimal.

SIRTee15:


If u guys want free healthcare in govt hospitals.....
Hold your politicians responsible and demand they initiate health insurance or waivers....
Stop picking on healthcare workers who are also victim of the poor system.....

As for the judge....
She's just a joker and her ruling is only good as thrash....

health workers are not victim. they sneak freely donated blood to private blood bank for sale.

the judge made the right decision. only in a shîthole will someone be forced to donate blood

Lostz:
I once moved my brother to a different hospital because the hospital want him to be transfuse before commencing treatment...... just little shortage of blood he can recover from.
the one when pain me be say them no do any test before them begin talk about blood.



child birth is not something you need blood for in most cases. most hospital now use it as a means to get blood for sale.

child birth is something you prepare for 9 months ahead so you should be able to know which patiently may likely need blood

Transfusion is part of commencing treatment nah! How do you know he had just little shortage?You did PCV test for him?

You can't say someone prepared 9 months for childbirth.Childbirth itself is a whole new world and there are sudden challenges unexpected that can spring up.Uterine bleeding could start unexpectedly.You need to be prepared.

The judgement stopping compulsory donation is not right though I agree some review has to be done.
A lot of people forget that there are patients who do not pay when they come to the hospital because they can't afford it.These extras are used for them.