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Expert17:
DE GEA errors leading to goals in EPL
2011/2012 - 2
2012/2013-1
2013/2014- 0
2014/2015-1
2015/2016-1
2016/2017-1
2017/2018-1
Total = 7

2018/2019-4
2019/2020- 3..............still remaining 2-3 months to go
Total=7

2011 to 2020= De gea conceded 12 goals from direct free-kick, the highest by any keeper in that time frame in EPL

Some will still argue that he is not having bad performance post World cup.

The statistics i do bring from my ass, is better than the ones that is bn release from some people's brain

Whilst at it, tell us how many of the goalies have been around long enough.

patrickmuf:
Most coaches are just unnecessarily stubborn.

Still don't know why Ighalo was signed as the man who signed him won't start him.

We need goal scorers in that team seriously.

I think Ighalo is still trying to improve his fitness. He was visibly tired in the 2nd half of the game he started.
Remember he came in from China without game time.
I expect that he will soon become the starting CF in the interim with Martial on the left and James/Greenwood on the right.

afrodoc2:
I think Ighalo is still trying to improve his fitness. He was visibly tired in the 2nd half of the game he started.
Remember he came in from China without game time.
I expect that he will soon become the starting CF in the interim with Martial on the left and James/Greenwood on the right.

Don't we have a good/promising CF in the youth ranks?

larride:
If the statistics is not from your ass, where is the link to the stat and the comparison with other Gks or we should take your word for it?

Try to read well, ... I mentioned earlier the statistics is from my ASS.....

If u can't source for information urself, ....keep waiting for me..... Did u drop a link for error leading to goal statistics

Am comparing De gea of 2012- 2018 with Degea of 2018-2020......also with Peter cech.......

Get it clear

Leyqute:
Larride

De Gea 2015-2017 vs De Gea 2018-2020

Which one would you pick ?

No mind am

patrickmuf:
Don't we have a good/promising CF in the youth ranks?

Mellor in the under 23 has decent hold up play but has never been prolific.
Ramazani is more of a left winger.

It is still too early to tell with the under 18s.
Emeran and Hoogewerf came from abroad with big reputations but it is still early days.

No standout performer at this time, but then again Rashford was not a star in the youth team.

iamoyindamola:
what about Henderson must you buy everytime
Nawa o

True

afrodoc2:
I think Ighalo is still trying to improve his fitness. He was visibly tired in the 2nd half of the game he started.
Remember he came in from China without game time.
I expect that he will soon become the starting CF in the interim with Martial on the left and James/Greenwood on the right.

He looks heavy. I didn't want to say it in order not to start criticism of his game

elampiro:
He looks heavy. I didn't want to say it in order not to start criticism of his game

Yes he does look heavy.
I believe he will get sharper in the next couple of weeks. What we must not do is overuse him and cause a season ending injury cos there is no one else.

DeGea will always bring panic to that defence while defending cross in balls into our box. If he has not improved much after 9 years, he is not going to be superb in that important aspect of goalkeeping.

Some of the great saves he has made have been from cross in balls he ought to have dealt with initially. He stands routed on his line in a situation where Romero would have gone easily to punch away or VDS would have taken the cross like a kiss. Then when a shot is coming from a goal mouth scramble or a header he makes a great save. But Romero doesn't many of these situations because he picks the balls at first.

EPL oppositions know this weakness about DDG and have used it against us.

Expert17:
Try to read well, ... I mentioned earlier the statistics is from my ASS.....

If u can't source for information urself, ....keep waiting for me..... Did u drop a link for error leading to goal statistics

Am comparing De gea of 2012- 2018 with Degea of 2018-2020......also with Peter cech.......

Get it clear

You are just making a fool of yourself. Error leading to goals stats is readily available on the EPL site. Check screenshot below.

Now back to your incoherent post, I keep saying you are having an argument with yourself in your head because you are just jumping from pillar to post. Nowhere in my post did I say that DDG hasn’t drop from his usual high standards, my post were to burst your rubbish exaggerated claims on DDG.

Now back to your claims, provide proof of the free kick goals DDG has conceded since he got here and let’s compare it with other Gks in that same time frame.

patrickmuf:
Whilst at it, tell us how many of the goalies have been around long enough.

Am just letting u know, De gea is not good in set - pieces generally.....

Forget abt other keepers

larride:
You are just making a fool of yourself. Error leading to goals stats is readily available on the EPL site. Check screenshot below.

Now back to your incoherent post, I keep saying you are having an argument with yourself in your head because you are just jumping from pillar to post. Nowhere in my post did I say that DDG hasn’t drop from his usual high standards, my post were to burst your rubbish exaggerated claims on DDG.

Now back to your claims, provide proof of the free kick goals DDG has conceded since he got here and let’s compare it with other Gks in that same time frame.

Go and dig out the post where I compare De gea to another keeper apart from Cech......if u can't do that, forget it....

The main comparison is between De gea of 2012- 2018 and De gea of 2018-2020...... I hope you understand now....

Someone made 7 errors leading to goals in 7 years, was in EPL team of the season 4 times, Man utd player of the season 3-4 times, best safe of the season 3-5 times, but now
7 errors leading to goals in less than 2 years, cant start at Spain, can't even position walls for freekick, ......and we are exagerrating

You wanna start comparing De gea of last season and Alisson of last season.....its alright

Even if, David De gea join nairaland to tell you, he is suffering from form dip, u willl still argue with him,.. So no need.....As for the free kick stats, will send it soon.

elampiro:
DeGea will always bring panic to that defence while defending cross in balls into our box. If he has not improved much after 9 years, he is not going to be superb in that important aspect of goalkeeping.

Some of the great saves he has made have been from cross in balls he ought to have dealt with initially. He stands routed on his line in a situation where Romero would have gone easily to punch away or VDS would have taken the cross like a kiss. Then when a shot is coming from a goal mouth scramble or a header he makes a great save. But Romero doesn't many of these situations because he picks the balls at first.

EPL oppositions know this weakness about DDG and have used it against us.

This is clear to every one but De gea fan boys won't agree

Pfft... United get problems sha

Before, the outfield players were the headache while the goalkeeping department was very solid.
Now that the outfield players are improving, the goalkeeping department has become a headache.

All i know is if they sell Henderson because of this De Gea, na swear i go swear for all them at this foolish club.
I go personally carry Woodward's name go meet baba for village.

Five, six years ago, DeGea was a solid goalkeeper you could always count on to come through at all times. But this past season and the current one, he hasn't inspired ANY confidence whatsoever, because you'll never know if it's David DeGea that'll turn up or the Spanish version of Chigozie Agbim.
Supporting him doesn't mean we should not point these things out or act like they're not true. And in all probity, Petre Cech, in his prime was as good as any goalkeeper you'd pick, including prime DeGea. Cech was steady saving Shekpe in those ultra defensive days of Avram Grant and DiMatteo to get Chelsea their Champs league win, not to mention his domestic records in the EPL as well.

We've blamed Smalling, we've cussed Jones, we've said Linjollof is weak and puts the team under pressure, I don't think it's out of place to say the same for DDG cos this has been the case since the summer of 2018- such a long stretch of a dip in form, so much the outstanding outings are now few and far between. Riding on past exploits can only take one so far, very soon, it'll become a general consensus that he isn't all that, but I hope, for his sake, that such a day never comes. He WAS so good for us, but right now, we can't say he is untouchable because funny goals de touch am steady.

Lana1:
All i know is if they sell Henderson because of this De Gea, na swear i go swear for all them at this foolish club.
I go personally carry Woodward's name go meet baba for village.

I think we should leave that boy at Sheffield for at least a year or two more, then bring him back to fight for the first team shirt if DeGea continues this his 'loss of form'. I think Chelsea did this with Courtois and Cech, just that the Courtois guy na weyray and he played them last last. But whatever they decide, they must not sell him outrightly abeg.

Expert17:
Go and dig out the post where I compare De gea to another keeper apart from Cech......if u can't do that, forget it....

The main comparison is between De gea of 2012- 2018 and De gea of 2018-2020...... I hope you understand now....

Someone made 7 errors leading to goals in 7 years, was in EPL team of the season 4 times, Man utd player of the season 3-4 times, best safe of the season 3-5 times, but now
7 errors leading to goals in less than 2 years, cant start at Spain, can't even position walls for freekick, ......and we are exagerrating

You wanna start comparing De gea of last season and Alisson of last season.....its alright

Even if, David De gea join nairaland to tell you, he is suffering from form dip, u willl still argue with him,.. So no need.....As for the free kick stats, will send it soon.

Again absolute bullshits.

Where in my post did you see me refer to Cech? Are you day dreaming this afternoon? I’m pretty certain comprehension is not your strong forte.

Go and check the meaning of exaggeration and maybe we can revisit this conversation again.

larride:
Again absolute bullshits.

Where in my post did you see me refer to Cech? Are you day dreaming this afternoon? I’m pretty certain comprehension is not your strong forte.

Go and check the meaning of exaggeration and maybe we can revisit this conversation again.

If you like twist and turn, it can't change the truth....... De gea is not in form

And this is the Statistics from my ass,.... and i am not comparing Degea with others

Khaytunechi:
Five, six years ago, DeGea was a solid goalkeeper you could always count on to come through at all times. But this past season and the current one, he hasn't inspired ANY confidence whatsoever, because you'll never know if it's David DeGea that'll turn up or the Spanish version of Chigozie Agbim.
Supporting him doesn't mean we should not point these things out or act like they're not true. And in all probity, Petre Cech, in his prime was as good as any goalkeeper you'd pick, including prime DeGea. Cech was steady saving Shekpe in those ultra defensive days of Avram Grant and DiMatteo to get Chelsea their Champs league win, not to mention his domestic records in the EPL as well.

We've blamed Smalling, we've cussed Jones, we've said Linjollof is weak and puts the team under pressure, I don't think it's out of place to say the same for DDG cos this has been the case since the summer of 2018- such a long stretch of a dip in form, so much the outstanding outings are now few and far between. Riding on past exploits can only take one so far, very soon, it'll become a general consensus that he isn't all that, but I hope, for his sake, that such a day never comes. He WAS so good for us, but right now, we can't say he is untouchable because funny goals de touch am steady.

There’s no player that hasn’t been criticized on this board so I don’t understand how my post translate to “don’t criticize DDG”.

DDG has went about 3 months without committing any error but he suddenly made 1 error against Everton and every start this exaggerated claims about how DDG is finished yen yen yen and how he makes silly errors every now and then and you think I won’t call out that bullshit?

Expert17:
If you like twist and turn, it can't change the truth....... De gea is not in form

And this is the Statistics from my ass,.... and i am not comparing Degea with others

Comprehension is not your strong forte. Maybe if you slow down to read carefully you will understand my point.


You do know with this stat, it basically means DDG has an average of 1.3 direct free kick goals conceded per season?

DDG has used 9 season in Man Utd and has conceded 12 direct free kick. Absolute joker.

larride:
Of course I will chose the DDG of 2015-2017. None of the GKs been mouthed here has reached DDG level of that time. Not even Allison.

Has he drop form, Yes but the exaggeration about that loss of form is the most annoying thing.

When you drop form for 2 years and keep making schoolboy errors you should expect some heat on your ass.

larride:
There’s no player that hasn’t been criticized on this board so I don’t understand how my post translate to “don’t criticize DDG”.

DDG has went about 3 months without committing any error but he suddenly made 1 error against Everton and every start this exaggerated claims about how DDG is finished yen yen yen and how he makes silly errors every now and then and you think I won’t call out that bullshit?

De Gea shouldn’t be making these mistakes at all. And if he does, since he’s human, it shouldn’t be in the worst department. How can De Gea be dragging a bad stat with J. Pickford ?

larride:
Comprehension is not your strong forte. Maybe if you slow down to read carefully you will understand my point.


You do know with this stat, it basically means DDG has an average of 1.3 direct free kick goals conceded per season?

DDG has used 9 season in Man Utd and has conceded 12 direct free kick. Absolute joker.

I have drop picture, statistics and records to prove my point, u will jump to another point. u kept on turning like wheel chair ............
Saying the obvious fact is exaggerating to you. Since he disgraced himself at World cup, he hasnt bn the same,...but u cant see that.


Lets leave it this way..........God help u, u complain about OLE or any player this season.

Leyqute:
When you drop form for 2 years and keep making schoolboy errors you should expect some heat on your ass.

No one is saying DDG can’t be benched or that he hasn’t dropped from his usual standards.

The point is no need to exaggerate the errors like you claimed he was the one that cost us UCL qualification last season.

Leyqute:
De Gea shouldn’t be making these mistakes at all. And if he does, since he’s human, it shouldn’t be in the worst department. How can De Gea be dragging a bad stat with J. Pickford ?

All Gks make errors. They are not machine. Allison made as many error leading to goals as DDG last season. He has made 3 errors in 28 games this season. Ya’ll need to stop making it seems as if he makes these errors daily.

For over 3 months, DDG has made no error, he suddenly made one against Everton now and we start hearing about how he makes school boy errors every now and then. I call bullshit.

Expert17:
I have drop picture, statistics and records to prove my point, u will jump to another point. u kept on turning like wheel chair ............
Saying the obvious fact is exaggerating to you. Since he disgraced himself at World cup, he hasnt bn the same,...but u cant see that.


[s]Lets leave it this way..........God help u, u complain about OLE or any player this season.[/s]

That he concede at average 1 direct freekick goal every season is proof of what exactly?

If you don’t want anyone to counter your claims, keep them to yourself.

De Gea hasn't done up to half of what Czech did at Chelsea, haaaaaa, have the fear of God Na!

And yes, I agree he needs to be benched for a couple of games.

Leyqute:
Larride

De Gea 2015-2017 vs De Gea 2018-2020

Which one would you pick ?

Oga this is not fair how can you ask someone to pick between EGG-ROLL and PUFF PUFF

Expert17:
Am just letting u know, De gea is not good in set - pieces generally.....

Forget abt other keepers

12 free kicks in 10 years is a very decent number.

Leyqute:
Ole doesn’t want to put Martial on the wings for some reason. He’s not playing the team to their full strength. Ighalo will always keep CBs busy and will be in the box for crosses. Martial won’t.

shey Mourinho was questioned about removing martial from playing 9