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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Helada(f): 11:55am On Mar 04, 2020
munas:


The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.

Waoh.... For screening and cross matching....7000...
Can you prove that nobody sold the blood....Simply used for another free of charge??
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Shakes85: 11:58am On Mar 04, 2020
peacefulhome:


Modify
@mzhannie am to quote you and not Mopolchi .

I put it to you that they sale blood. I was given an option to either bring three donors or I pay for the required blood. I later paid. So tell me where did they get the blood they sold to me? If they do not sale blood, they I should have just pay for screening and nothing more.
I don't understand why Nigerians expect a different species of Nigerians in health sector. The corruption has eaten deep all system. A banker that is corrupt wants to meet a saint in the hospital, the one selling face mask for 15000 naira is looking for free blood in the hospital. Focus more on getting good health care for yourself. Go to private hospital if you can afford it.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by peacefulhome(f): 12:05pm On Mar 04, 2020
Shakes85:

I don't understand why Nigerians expect a different species of Nigerians in health sector. The corruption has eaten deep all system. A banker that is corrupt wants to meet a saint in the hospital, the one selling face mask for 15000 naira is looking for free blood in the hospital. Focus more on getting good health care for yourself. Go to private hospital if you can afford it.

I know people like you so am not surprise.

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Mopolchi: 12:15pm On Mar 04, 2020
I paid and was led to donate. I did donate a pint of blood. I was told that it will be used for the donee. The donee's blood level was 36% after delivery and needed the blood but the donee was not given any. My take here is: if you will not use the blood later, do not demand it as a criterion for giving birth. The hospital should ascertain a particular level of blood a woman should have before delivery. If the level is not reached, the blood donor should be told to donate one. It is a scam to demand blood which apriori you know you will not use for the donee later. And there is no guaranty that I will be given the pint freely if I later return to the hospital in need of blood.
mzhannie:
It wasn't given because there wasn't need for it and like I said the 7k you paid was for grouping and crossmatching. To know if your blood level is within range for you to donate and to be sure it's free from all transmissable infections. Since she didn't use the blood it can't be given back cos it's of no use to you. They give to someone in dire need of it and person looks for another donor to replace so the blood bank won't be empty. If you are to buy blood in a private owned lab it's nothing less than 22k
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Scholar212(m): 12:36pm On Mar 04, 2020
Foolish decsiosn from someone without the technical know how.. Nigerians don't donate blood and when it is needed for delivery or post delivery issues it becomes life threatening and the blood bank may not have any in store to give even with your money. Those saying they sell the blood, the cost of screening, blood bag, storage is more than what you pay for blood. For places that use PCR to screen like NBTS it is even more than 50k to screen with PCR but patients pay like 7k for the blood, highly subsidized. The major source of blood in Nigeria is replacement donation from patient relative. Hospitals don't manufacture blood, when people don't donate the price will skyrocket. With your money you won't see the blood

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Scholar212(m): 12:51pm On Mar 04, 2020
Pinonwa:
7k is outrageous for screening, getting a blood bag,HCV,BHsAg and RVS for screening shouldn't cost more than 3k if we want to tell ourselves the truth.

The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.
Hope your 3k will also buy regulated blood bank fridge and steady power to store it till it is needed for use. Also buy Anti A, B, anti D, Bovine Albumin, AhG for grouping and crossmatch ?. Healthcare is expensive and what you pay in Govt hospital is a fraction of the actual cost of whatever service is provided to you. You guys should find out the number one cause of bankruptcy in the almighty USA it is medical debt.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Scholar212(m): 12:56pm On Mar 04, 2020
Lostz:
health workers are not victim. they sneak freely donated blood to private blood bank for sale.

the judge made the right decision. only in a shîthole will someone be forced to donate blood
lol, please don't say what you don't know. All donated blood are accounted for. Anyone that sneaks any blood out in a govt hospital that will always have shortage of blood will lose his/her job. Most times it is even private blood bank govt hospitals turn to for supply when they are seriously in need
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Scholar212(m): 12:59pm On Mar 04, 2020
Many patients in cancer management may need up to 10 pints of blood and above especially leukemia cases. That is 10 people's blood used up by one person. Multiply that by 10 patiens on such condition and you will know how many people need to donate for just a small number of patient.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by owelle22(m): 1:02pm On Mar 04, 2020
noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.

This happened to me exactly
I paid 7k,donated blood and my wife didnt use the blood
No refund was made
They collected my blood and money at the same time
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Nobody: 1:11pm On Mar 04, 2020
Scholar212:
lol, please don't say what you don't know. All donated blood are accounted for. Anyone that sneaks any blood out in a govt hospital that will always have shortage of blood will lose his/her job. Most times it is even private blood bank govt hospitals turn to for supply when they are seriously in need
they do all the time and still direct patients to buy from there..... their excuse is that blood will expire so they send it to where it will be used quickly
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by darlenese(f): 1:24pm On Mar 04, 2020
delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.


yes but at the end of the day some patient don't need the blood , will the donated blood be returned , of course not ,they are sold
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by luluman: 1:27pm On Mar 04, 2020
delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.
So you force people to donate blood their wives may not use? Because it happened to me, yes blood may be needed but let it be when I will not by force o.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by luluman: 1:28pm On Mar 04, 2020
noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.
Similar to my case .
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by mzhannie(f): 1:35pm On Mar 04, 2020
Pcv of 36% is okay and thus do not require transfusion. And the outcome of delivery can't be ascertain during antenatal anything like PPH can pop up so one has to prepare hence the donation.. So if it isn't used just act you donated as an act of humanitarian service cos it's isn't sold. I am sure what you paid for is grouping and crossmatching.
Mopolchi:
I paid and was led to donate. I did donate a pint of blood. I was told that it will be used for the donee. The donee's blood level was 36% after delivery and needed the blood but the donee was not given any. My take here is: if you will not use the blood later, do not demand it as a criterion for giving birth. The hospital should ascertain a particular level of blood a woman should have before delivery. If the level is not reached, the blood donor should be told to donate one. It is a scam to demand blood which apriori you know you will not use for the donee later. And there is no guaranty that I will be given the pint freely if I later return to the hospital in need of blood.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Shakes85: 1:39pm On Mar 04, 2020
owelle22:


This happened to me exactly
I paid 7k,donated blood and my wife didnt use the blood
No refund was made
They collected my blood and money at the same time
Did you people agree on a refund if she doesn't use it? Did you ask for terms and conditions
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Shakes85: 1:45pm On Mar 04, 2020
luluman:
So you force people to donate blood their wives may not use? Because it happened to me, yes blood may be needed but let it be when I will not by force o.
If it was needed by 2 am will you provide it?
Also I think you have a choice to use another hospital that won't force you to donate blood .
That policy works for the general hospital and it has saved lots of lives.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by shekauvsbuhari: 1:56pm On Mar 04, 2020
delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.
those rogues later sell de donated blood to patients in need of blood. Crooks.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by owelle22(m): 1:59pm On Mar 04, 2020
Shakes85:

Did you people agree on a refund if she doesn't use it? Did you ask for terms and conditions

Like seriously?

I should be asking all this wen my wife is in theatre for emergency cs and wen my bby hrt beat was already dropping

You wont understand bro
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Mopolchi: 2:10pm On Mar 04, 2020
mzhannie:
Pcv of 36% is okay and thus do not require transfusion. And the outcome of delivery can't be ascertain during antenatal anything like PPH can pop up so one has to prepare hence the donation.. So if it isn't used just act you donated as an act of humanitarian service cos it's isn't sold. I am sure what you paid for is grouping and crossmatching.
I should be told of this first so I will not feel cheated.

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by bilulu(m): 2:13pm On Mar 04, 2020
delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.
Maybe it's now an Avenue for the hospitals to stock their bank.... what happens if there was no need for the blood at the end of the day? Will the hospital donate the blood or sell it to patients
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by banio: 2:21pm On Mar 04, 2020
Joeboy88:
I donated blood for my sister during delivery.fortunately for us, she put to bed safely and they ended up not using the blood for her.My pain then was that I gave it as a free will donation but it's so painful that the hospital will end up selling the blood & if care isn't taken, it might be sold to someone that has to go borrowing to pay.Pls what is donated free should be give ad free to people in need of it.


That's why people don't donate. If You like donate blood twice per year. When you fall sick and need blood, hospital will still ask you to buy blood at #16,000.00
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by SIRTee15: 3:27pm On Mar 04, 2020
omoharry:
Oga, as a medical practitioner, when have you heard that people are forced to donate their bloods for hospital blood bank. I am surprised you are even supporting this nonsense. Blood donation should be voluntary and not forced...it a humaniterian act and people should not be forced to do it..After blood donation then what next? people will one day be force to donate their kidney since they can use the second one for the rest of thier lives.
We blacks only copy dark things that are insulting to what the medical profession stands for. Una try ooo!! Na wetin them teach una for medical school?
So many Nigerian doctor study medicine not becos they are called to serve humanity but due to the prestige that comes with being a Doctor.Most of our doctors are devils and Angel of death.

All your inconsequential ranting will get nothing done....
Next time don't vote in shitz hole leaders to rule you....
Pressure your leaders to do the right thing that will ensure smooth running of hospitals....
Doctors are not your problem.....

In Saudi, every driving licence applicants are mandated to donate blood so long u are fit....
Singapore offer financial reward to blood donors....

U are not talking about ways to incentivise blood donations among Nigerians....
But u want hospitals to give out blood free....
Some even want doctors to bleed themselves for patients....quite unfortunate, because lots of doctors do that anyway.....

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by omoharry(f): 3:35pm On Mar 04, 2020
SIRTee15:


All your inconsequential ranting will get nothing done....
Next time don't vote in shitz hole leaders to rule you....
Pressure your leaders to do the right thing that will ensure smooth running of hospitals....
Doctors are not your problem.....

In Saudi, every driving licence applicants are mandated to donate blood so long u are fit....
Singapore offer financial reward to blood donors....

U are not talking about ways to incentivise blood donations among Nigerians....
But u want hospitals to give out blood free....
Some even want doctors to bleed themselves for patients....quite unfortunate, because lots of doctors do that anyway.....
You guys should stop selling free blood donated, then people will freely donate their blood without been told to do so including me. I have seen on several occasion how poor patient are refused blood transfusion because they could not pay for the blood at that point in time.They are left to die due to non payment.Meanwhile the donor donated their blood for people like that..what has voting in good or bad leaders got to do with your humanity and that of other doctors?.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by wirinet(m): 4:08pm On Mar 04, 2020
Lostz:
why must you pay for screening when you are donating free? the state should pay for that
Abio... you are donating your blood free, but the Lagos State you are donating to is charging between N10,000 - N15,000 just to screen the blood. Are the doctors, nurses and lab technicians not being paid salary from the state coffers? Are the equipments not property of the Lagos State governments? Is it reagents that cost N15,000?
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Nobody: 4:14pm On Mar 04, 2020
wirinet:

Abio... you are donating your blood free, but the Lagos State you are donating to is charging between N10,000 - N15,000 just to screen the blood. Are the doctors, nurses and lab technicians not being paid salary from the state coffers? Are the equipments not property of the Lagos State governments? Is it reagents that cost N15,000?
that is the problem with Nigeria. they will still charge you for something you already paid for through tax
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Legendguru: 5:21pm On Mar 04, 2020
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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Olatara(f): 7:02pm On Mar 04, 2020
Orpe7:
I worked with LSBTS LAGOS STATE BLOOD TRANSFUSION SERVICES 2014-2016 and I can tell you, there was always shortage of blood
Not like lagosians willingly walk in to donate blood or when we go for blood drives we get that much
In fact it is the Muslim and indian community that really donate. U see we Christians eh, anytime we attend any church na so so back tracking the members go dey do like say we wan drink their blood
I will love to donate blood, but I am afraid of needle.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by lebete3000: 7:20pm On Mar 04, 2020
delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.

Wetin concern Naija ppl. Anything to lambast healthcare providers is most welcomed.

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by TypicallyBrunt(m): 8:17pm On Mar 04, 2020
Situations we misinterpret in such many charged emotional states may actually have very logical explanations.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Farki: 8:25pm On Mar 04, 2020
Joeboy88:
I donated blood for my sister during delivery.fortunately for us, she put to bed safely and they ended up not using the blood for her.My pain then was that I gave it as a free will donation but it's so painful that the hospital will end up selling the blood & if care isn't taken, it might be sold to someone that has to go borrowing to pay.Pls what is donated free should be give ad free to people in need of it.

Hospitals don't sell their blood anyhow, we have sick children in the wards that need them every day, not to talk about women who bled during and after pregnancy. Don't upset just be glad that your donation might have saved one young child's life.
Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by Orpe7(m): 9:05pm On Mar 04, 2020
Olatara:
I will love to donate blood, but I am afraid of needle.

No fears jare
The Plebotomist are so good that u wont feel the pain sef.
However u have to qualify to be able to donate o
Body weight above 50k
Must not be on medications
Blood pressure is normal
Your PCV (blood level must be above 11%)
Not on your monthly period or not that u just finished
If you can find your way to Lagos general hospital behind Saint Nicholas, Lagos Island
Call +234 802 275 5088 (Mr Paul)
Tell him from Yemi that you want to become a voluntary blood donor.
Benefits of blood donations include
1) helps u live a healthy life style
2) facilitates your bone marrow to produce new red blood cells
3) you will hardly fall I'll
4) MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR BLOOD WILL BE SAVING A LIFE

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Re: Court Stops Lagos Public Hospitals From Demanding Blood Donations For Childbirth by luluman: 10:06pm On Mar 04, 2020
Shakes85:

If it was needed by 2 am will you provide it?
Also I think you have a choice to use another hospital that won't force you to donate blood .
That policy works for the general hospital and it has saved lots of lives.
If they need blood by 2:00, must it be my blood? If it's a matter of choice they will not be mandated to stop it. At least the patients have won this one.

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