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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 4:06pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Interesting.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by HAKYN1: 4:08pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing: You have just corroborated my claim, others had kingdom, but Oyo, empire 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 4:11pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Interesting.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Vado(m): 4:12pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
So many uneducated idiots on this thread with opinion of Kwara. Can't even distinguish between Ilorin that was the center of the Afonja/Alimi issue centuries ago and Kwara as a whole. These clowns don't even know that prior to the creation of the 12 states by Gowon, Kwara was known as the West Central State. Us indigenes of the state knows where we belong. Only online clowns think they know more than what the sons of the soil do. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 4:13pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Interesting. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Iamgrey5(m): 4:17pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing:Bro an empire has many kingdoms under it They are not the same. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 4:18pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Tomide007: To an extent yes and no. With Fulani, when they invade or take over an area they often times use the language of the conquered people. This is why many speak Hausa as a first language even though they are not Hausa. In fact, they use Hausa so much that many have even abandoned speaking their native tongue after a generation or two. This is why language isn't a true marker of tribe when it comes to the Fulani.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 4:23pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: To an extent I agree with you. But, you have to understand history through an African context to truly understand our ancient civilizations. I see from your responses that you're a true student of history, we need sharp minds like yours to delve deep into history as you may be able to further educate those around you about our true history and not the one Europeans foisted on us to foster an inferiority complex. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by HAKYN1: 4:26pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: That was why I chose my words carefully, in history, your description of empire is exactly what we were taught but we have taken so many things for granted as revisionist historians and blackmailers are beginning to tell us fiction as facts. Sometimes on this platform, I once asked one dull nairalander who claim Afonja betrayed to tell me who Afonja betrayed and all he could do was to blab |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by IamJames: 4:36pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
solmus: Really? Yoruba in Kwara, a North Central State? Coming from a dunce who will say there are no Igbos in South-South. Stop talking trash and shut up. Just as you all claim there are no Igbos in SS, there are no Yorubas in NC. Is that clear? Good boy. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by solmus: 4:40pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
IamJames: what is wrong with Ibo people sef... did Gowon spray biological weapon that dries peoples brain in ShoutYeast during the civil war.. anyways to educate you there is nothing like NorthCentral geographically, Abacha the semi illiterate just came up with imaginary geopolitical zones in his mind, and they don't even have legal backing in our constitution.. so Kwara people already said Otoge!!! to you satanic PDP the Ipob party, take your "L" and take a walk 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by kayusely70(m): 4:48pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
HAKYN1:Youre correct. We also defeated them at Ikirun in 1878 during the "jalumi war". 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by jidxin(m): 5:07pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
helinues:Its majorly dominated by the yorubas |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by jidxin(m): 5:09pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Salvador1:kwara is a yoruba state 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Tomide007: 5:11pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing:Back to the Ilorin issue, it is not possible to say that the Fulani changed their language, culture, tradition, pastoralism, to embrace farming, Yoruba language, Yoruba way of marriage, Yoruba dressing, gave all their villages yoruba names...common,.....the core Fulani's migrate a lot, and yes there are some in kwara, if you've ever been to kwara you 'll understand. Fufulde which is the language of the Fulani's is widely spoken were they settle in Jos, kano, katsina, sokoto.etc. its not spoken in kwara because they,'re by far a minority tribe...in fact their are more Nupes in kwara than Fulani. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Vado(m): 5:16pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
mohlanforex: Thank you my brother fah. These people can spin so much misinformation ehn. 3 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by jidxin(m): 5:20pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Benwems:Afonja was not a king 3 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by OmoManU: 5:21pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
kayusely70: The problem with the Yorubas of kwara state is the Ilorin emirate, sorry to say |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by jidxin(m): 5:22pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
IamJames:smh for your ignorance. im a kwaran and more than 70 % are yoruba |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by usebog: 5:49pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Good move |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by rafcrown(m): 6:33pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Only criminals are afraid of Amotekun. Amotekun is here to stay forever and ever.Aminnnnnnn. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by limeta(f): 6:46pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
solmus: Yes you right i share a room with yr mother and sister in italy |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Punishment1: 6:58pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Simbrixton: Esan people are NOT Yorubas. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 7:22pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Tomide007: When we speak of control and power, then we have to acknowledge that the Northern elements controls what happens in Illorin and by default Kwara. There are historical reasons for this, but this is just a fact that the political direction of the city and the state is controlled from the Northern elements among the society. This Northern control has shaped Kwara into a state very different from Oyo, Lagos, or Ogun. Let's not rewrite history, culturally Illorin is very much a Northern state.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 7:27pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: As I said, I like you, but you may be missing some information. I didn't want to be the one to bring this up, but Benin was also referred to as an Empire by the British. But, once again, these terms are retroactively applied, so they are to a large extent irrelevant.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 7:36pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
Interesting.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 7:41pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
jidxin: Afonja was a high ranking military officer by today's standards. Oyo's commander at Ilorin, Kakanfo (Field Marshal) Afonja, led a rebellion in 1817 that destroyed the unity of the empire. He was aided by Mallam Alimi (a Fulani from Sokoto), by Fulani warriors and mercenaries, and by Hausa soldiers. Afonja, a high ranking military officer, lead a coup or rebellion against his people by teaming up with Northern elements. That is why till this day Northern elements dominate the land.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Asorite(m): 7:47pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
There are just 45% yoruba in kwara. Others hausas/fulanis.... From baruba, barunti, lafiaji and Co check them Ewo ode, tal'o sofun e pee we're 45%, u can only c other tribe from kwara North, not in central & south 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Iamgrey5(m): 7:47pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing:Oyo empire included several non Yoruba kingdoms Dahomey Fon Kingdoms The Bariba kingdoms And many more All those kingdoms paid homage to the Oyo empire at its peak. The Oyo empire also conquered many Yoruba kingdoms like the Owu kingdoms. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by NaijirianKing: 7:48pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
OmoManU: That's a problematic statement. The Emirate of Ilorin is a beautiful historical Emirate with a colorful history. We shouldn't look down on any part of the country but embrace every inch and civilization for what it is. It is the southern most tip of Northern Nigeria, a beautiful blend of Fulani, Nupe and other Northern elements.
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Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Iamgrey5(m): 7:56pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing:You don't understand the concept of Emir of ilorin Before the advent of British, the current emire was actually called the oba of ilorin but was pronounced Emire by the British. Those who crowned Abdul (the son of Alimi) the oba of ilorin were actually Yoruba Muslims like Solagberu. Alimi himself preferred the term chief imam and never made himself Emire of ilorin after the assassination of Afonja until his death. Hence, till today two Yoruba Balogun(Yoruba name for warrior), a BalogunGamabari (a Yoruba name for Hausa ) Balogun Fulani come together to entrone the new Emire of Abdul bloodline any time there's a vacuum. |
Re: Afenifere Urges Kwara Governor To Join Amotekun by Iamgrey5(m): 8:00pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
NaijirianKing:I also urge you not to mix the Artificial creation called Kwara state with Ilorin emirate, Ekitis, igbomina and those in areas around Jebba(ibillo) who are all in kwara state of today They have different history |
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