horsepower102:
Notice the same questionable pattern between Ebonyi state borders and cross rivers. Who did these maps? They need to be taken to either a mental hospital or to hell fire just be being unnecessarily wicked.

nna,you are only concentratin on river....
the big issue is the people in this areas....

i wouldnt bother....
you would be shocked to find out,your problem is not the goverment per se but the people that are in the goverment....

justtoodark:


nna,you are only concentratin on river....
the big issue is the people in this areas....

i wouldnt bother....
you would be shocked to find out,your problem is not the goverment per se but the people that are in the goverment....

I am focused on both the people and the geography.

What nigeria government did to igbos after the civil war is not different from what the colonialist did to Africans after the Berlin conference.

They forcefully separated igbo villages and clans and push them to other states for easier exploitation of their resources.

horsepower102:


I am focused on both the people and the geography.

What nigeria government did to igbos after the civil war is not different from what the colonialist did to Africans after the Berlin conference.

They forcefully separated igbo villages and clans and push them to other states for easier exploitation of their resources.

look....
let me try to explain as nice as possible....

you lost the war,right....??
what do you think happens to people that loose wars....??
everybody rushed your properties and areas....!!

i know what you are trying to say and those maps realy dont make sense....but its how it is....
south south people will not give you any areas back,if this is what this discussion is all about....

horsepower102:
I have been exploring google maps and i cannot come to terms with the state lines drawn around the south east.

The state line between:

Imo state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Abia state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Ebonyi state and cross river state doesn’t make sense

Arochukwu areas of Abia state and cross river state and Akwa ibom is very questionable.

Anambra north and kogi doesn’t make sense

Enugu and Ebonyi northern areas doesn’t make any sense.

Whomever drew those map after the civil war and during state creation really really really hated igbos and wanted to desperately limit their geography in the future Nigeria. This is why you have igbos clans forcefully carved into neighboring states. This is injustice and pure wickedness

I urge everyone to study those boundaries on google map and tell me if those lines make any sense.

You're not making any sense.

Thank you.

justtoodark:


look....
let me try to explain as nice as possible....

you lost the war,right....??
what do you think happens to people that loose wars....??
everybody rushed your properties and areas....!!

i know what you are trying to say and those maps realy dont make sense....but its how it is....
south south people will not give you any areas back,if this is what this discussion is all about....

But the same Nigerian government said no victor and no vanquished. I won’t go further into the war because it will change the purpose of this thread.

There are so many igbos in the south south. Majority of those igbos never chose to be placed there. But they are there and that is the reality.

There is no ethnicity called south south. It’s a politically motivated creation for convenience.

Even the current Nigerian constitution doesn’t even mention or recognize geopolitical zones as governing entities.

horsepower102:


But the same Nigerian government said no victor and no vanquished. I won’t go further into the war because it will change the purpose of this thread.

There are so many igbos in the south south. Majority of those igbos never chose to be placed there. But they are there and that is the reality.

There is no ethnicity called south south. It’s a politically motivated creation for convenience.

Even the current Nigerian constitution doesn’t even mention or recognize geopolitical zones as governing entities.

bros....

horsepower102:
I have been exploring google maps and i cannot come to terms with the state lines drawn around the south east.

The state line between:

Imo state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Abia state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Ebonyi state and cross river state doesn’t make sense

Arochukwu areas of Abia state and cross river state and Akwa ibom is very questionable.

Anambra north and kogi doesn’t make sense

Enugu and Ebonyi northern areas doesn’t make any sense.

Whomever drew those map after the civil war and during state creation really really really hated igbos and wanted to desperately limit their geography in the future Nigeria. This is why you have igbos clans forcefully carved into neighboring states. This is injustice and pure wickedness

I urge everyone to study those boundaries on google map and tell me if those lines make any sense.

Bro there is nothing in Nigeria that makes any sense. The boundaries were drawn to either deny certain states the crude oil well or add crude oil wells to states that do not have any. Ondo State remains the typical example of the states that inherited crude oil wells from the draconian boundary adjustment. Nigeria is worse than fake news.

justtoodark:


bros....

Yes I get your point. We lost a war so it right that our people and land are divided as a war booty. I get what you are trying to say.

But you think after all that wickedness from my supposed fellow country men, in addition to defending the injustices against my people, I should still love the country?

Only a mad person will do that.

In reality the south east was made to be a small geopolitical zone after carving out parts of it and adding it to other states.

I am bringing up the injustice and all you can say is you lost a war. You think Nigeria will ever make progress with such attitude?

horsepower102:


Yes I get your point. We lost a war so it right that our people and land are divided as a war booty. I get what you are trying to say.

But you think after all that wickedness from my supposed fellow country men, in addition to defending the injustices against my people, I should still love the country?

Only a mad person will do that.

In reality the south east was made to be a small geopolitical zone after carving out parts of it and adding it to other states.

I am bringing up the injustice and all you can say is you lost a war. You think Nigeria will ever make progress with such attitude?

oyy....you are on a long thing oohh...
and what makes you think you can demand areas back from south south people today.....??

justtoodark:


oyy....you are on a long thing oohh...
and what makes you think you can demand areas back from south south people today.....??

You keep making the same error speaking of south south people as a monolithic united group. To make it worse even worse, igbos are strongly part of it.

The reality is that south south doesn’t exist. Once oil based economy is over, everyone there will focus on their fathers land.

We know the reason south south even exist as a political grouping.

horsepower102:


You keep making the same error speaking of south south people as a monolithic united group. To make it worse even worse, igbos are strongly part of it.

The reality is that south south doesn’t exist. Once oil based economy is over, everyone there will focus on their fathers land.

We know the reason south south even exist as a political grouping.

na their your wahala will start....
people go crazy when it comes to land and women....

look,you seem to be a nice guy and somebody you can reason with....

rome went all over the place conquerin peoples....
you think people in those areas divided by maps today will give anything back because of injusties back then...??

bros....!!

Try and take a single square inch of land from River state and see how Wike and Ikwerres will rubbish you. Let alone Benue, Akwa-Cross and Kogi. Instead of you to focus of developing the SE region you are here talking about phantom Igbo land outside of SE.

YungMillionaire:
Try and take a single square inch of land from River state and see how Wike and Ikwerres will rubbish you. Let alone Benue, Akwa-Cross and Kogi. Instead of you to focus of developing the SE region you are here talking about phantom Igbo land outside of SE.

I know it’s common for everyone in Nigeria to issue useless threats left and right. It’s fine with me, if that strokes your ego. But this thread was about pointing out the anomaly in the Nigerian system of boundaries creation.

I am yet to find anywhere where I suggested any war or fighting for any land.

But one Thing you need to understand is that igbos are people who have proven themselves when I comes to fighting.

The other two majority groups know what we are capable of if we decide to go all out.

If any minority group threaten our very existence, we will take care of them.

But in the meantime let’s continue with one Nigeria. After all igbos are milking it without any reservation.

[s]

horsepower102:
I have been exploring google maps and i cannot come to terms with the state lines drawn around the south east.

The state line between:

Imo state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Abia state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Ebonyi state and cross river state doesn’t make sense

Arochukwu areas of Abia state and cross river state and Akwa ibom is very questionable.

Anambra north and kogi doesn’t make sense

Enugu and Ebonyi northern areas doesn’t make any sense.

Whomever drew those map after the civil war and during state creation really really really hated igbos and wanted to desperately limit their geography in the future Nigeria. This is why you have igbos clans forcefully carved into neighboring states. This is injustice and pure wickedness

I urge everyone to study those boundaries on google map and tell me if those lines make any sense.

[/s] another low life ipob who fears his 5% tribe might disintegrate and go into extinction hence the reason to always get SS states involved in his stupidity

horsepower102:


Yes I get your point. We lost a war so it right that our people and land are divided as a war booty. I get what you are trying to say.

But you think after all that wickedness from my supposed fellow country men, in addition to defending the injustices against my people, I should still love the country?

Only a mad person will do that.

In reality the south east was made to be a small geopolitical zone after carving out parts of it and adding it to other states.

I am bringing up the injustice and all you can say is you lost a war. You think Nigeria will ever make progress with such attitude?

Never!

horsepower102:


I know it’s common for everyone in Nigeria to issue useless threats left and right. It’s fine with me, if that strokes your ego. But this thread was about pointing out the anomaly in the Nigerian system of boundaries creation.

I am yet to find anywhere where I suggested any war or fighting for any land.

But one Thing you need to understand is that igbos are people who have proven themselves when I comes to fighting.

The other two majority groups know what we are capable of if we decide to go all out.

If any minority group threaten our very existence, we will take care of them.

But in the meantime let’s continue with one Nigeria. After all igbos are milking it without any reservation.

i told you,bros....i told you....
you are on a long thing oo....

Kamanuozuzu:


Never!

better dont open up old wounds....
you will regret it....

Op,
So nice for you to notice. Carving up of Igboland to emasculate it after the civil war was a task given to one justice Nasir, and he did his best to carve, splinter, butcher, and kill Igbo spirit!

OP is like you just realized this. Nigeria map is a blunder to geography.

the people that drew that map are obviously mischievous. the state boundaries r rubbish...

when you examine closely the map of USA, Australia or even Kenya you'd understand that Map of Nigeria is a joke of the century

justtoodark:


look....
let me try to explain as nice as possible....

you lost the war,right....??
what do you think happens to people that loose wars....??
everybody rushed your properties and areas....!!

i know what you are trying to say and those maps realy dont make sense....but its how it is....
south south people will not give you any areas back,if this is what this discussion is all about....

the real deal here is not giving the area back or whatever.
the map need to be redrawn , that nonsense of a map. no transparent state boundaries, tiny states and dependent parasitic states

horsepower102:

I know it’s common for everyone in Nigeria to issue useless threats left and right. It’s fine with me, if that strokes your ego. But this thread was about pointing out the anomaly in the Nigerian system of boundaries creation.
I am yet to find anywhere where I suggested any war or fighting for any land.
But one Thing you need to understand is that igbos are people who have proven themselves when I comes to fighting.
The other two majority groups know what we are capable of if we decide to go all out.
If any minority group threaten our very existence, we will take care of them.
But in the meantime let’s continue with one Nigeria. After all igbos are milking it without any reservation.

1. You are 'pointing.' Like I said go and do something productive with the SE region and stop 'pointing.'

2. Chestbeating as usual. Kwantinue.

3. Come to Warri and yarn that nonsense. Lets see how it will fare for you.

horsepower102:
This thread is not an attack on anyone on this forum. None of you here created the states. So before you attack me, ask yourself if what I am saying is true or false or if you attacking me out of blind hatred.

Bros, you're flogging a dead horse by trying to appeal to their better judgement! When it comes to Ndigbo, they take leave of their senses and look at any and everything through their hate-tinted goggles!

YungMillionaire:


1. You are 'pointing.' Like I said go and do something productive with the SE region and stop 'pointing.'

2. Chestbeating as usual. Kwantinue.

3. Come to Warri and yarn that nonsense. Lets see how it will fare for you.

Warri doesn't share any boundary with Ndigbo, yet you're ranting and hot under the collar about the theme of the thread! One has to ask why a Warri man is displaying this much bile towards Igbos and is fuming about the OPs questions! Could it be that you're not actually from Warri, but actually a impostor from one of those two sections of Nigeria that breed individuals that despise Igbos and never wish us well on any issue?

XANDERBOY85:


Warri doesn't share any boundary with Ndigbo, yet you're ranting and hot under the collar about the theme of the thread! One has to ask why a Warri man is displaying this much bile towards Igbos and is fuming about the OPs questions! Could it be that you're not actually from Warri, but actually a impostor from one of those two sections of Nigeria that breed individuals that despise Igbos and never wish us well on any issue?

Yes. My Father is a Fulanman and my mother is from Ogbomosho. Are you happy now?

YungMillionaire:

Yes. My Father is a Fulanman and my mother is from Ogbomosho. Are you happy now?

Why are you guys not proud of your Berom origin? Fulanis are roasting your people and taking your land but you are more concerned about Niger Delta and Igbos. Why

YungMillionaire:
Today, I encountered a lively ... I met him on Facebook and I was intrigued that a man from Ogun State spoke Berom (my language), I later spoke to him on the phone and I have to say his Berom is better than mine LOL...

Amitez:


Why are you guys not proud of your Berom origin? Fulanis are roasting your people and taking your land but you are more concerned about Niger Delta and Igbos. Why

You caught the imposter red handed.

Good job.

This is the problem with igbophobia and igbo-obsession. Even those who are suffering badly in this Nigeria, exploited for their resources and massacred monthly by Fulani herdsmen still care so much about what igbos are doing?

I never understood this igbophobia and obsession for igbo people among Nigerians. Everyone is just watching closely to see what igbos are saying or doing to the point of ignoring their own problems.

Grgton:
the real deal here is not giving the area back or whatever.
the map need to be redrawn , that nonsense of a map. no transparent state boundaries, tiny states and dependent parasitic states

ehen....go tell africans to redraw african maps and see if they will not fight you....

does map of nigeria make sense to you....??
but people will still fight you for it....

you want go demand stuffs when people are armed to the teeth....??

this redraw lines cant make sense....
you are talkin about takin from people and give to another people....

maps was a bad idea from the start and unafrican....
bad habits all over the place because of this yeye europeans....

XANDERBOY85:


Warri doesn't share any boundary with Ndigbo, yet you're ranting and hot under the collar about the theme of the thread! One has to ask why a Warri man is displaying this much bile towards Igbos and is fuming about the OPs questions! Could it be that you're not actually from Warri, but actually a impostor from one of those two sections of Nigeria that breed individuals that despise Igbos and never wish us well on any issue?

you are not gettin anything from anybody if you start like this....

I can tell you that 99% of people here don't understand what you're saying

I see them saying its people that propose those borders THATS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW THEIR LEVEL OF REAOSNING

YOU AND I KNOW WHY THOSE BOARDERS WHERE MADE SO JUST LIKE YOU POINTED OUT THERE

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS NIGERIA IS CONCERN

BRITIAN DID THEIR WORK ON US PERFECTLY

JUST LIKE I SAID A TYPICAL NIGERIAN IS NOT BRAIN MATURED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND YOU IT DOESN'T MATTER HIS AGE....WHAT YOU POINTED OUT IS BEYOND HIS REASONING

HE'S NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO COMPREHEND IT....SO HE WILL JUST REPLY ANYTHING EVEN INSULT YOU


BRITTS AFTER EXPERIMENTING WITH NIGERIA WENT FURTHER TO EXPERIMENT OUR TRIBE

IT WAS POSSIBLE WITH OUR FOREFATHERS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THAT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH....BUT THESE GENERATION I CAN ASSURE WE CAN FIGHT THEM HEAD ON WHEN THE TIME COMES

Are you guys going to do anything about it? If this is just a pity party that's fine. Maybe you guys realize the SS states dont care about your feeling on the matter. Lol it would be funny to see any state reject these votes then especially if they supposedly want succession.

You guys should look up and copy Greater Idaho movement. Oregon residents are trying to secede and join Idaho. They got an Initiative on the ballot.

ezenwajosh
Grgton
Amitez
eagleu
Duru1
horsepower102

horsepower102:


I know it’s common for everyone in Nigeria to issue useless threats left and right. It’s fine with me, if that strokes your ego. But this thread was about pointing out the anomaly in the Nigerian system of boundaries creation.

It's not threat nor ego strokes. Try and take one inch of Ikwerre land from rivers state and you will see the red eye of Ikwerre people like Wike and Amaechi. I am sure this will unite wike and Amaechi.

I am yet to find anywhere where I suggested any war or fighting for any land.

No one gives away lands acquired through purchase or war easily, without a fight. Fights over lands can last decades or even millenia.

But one Thing you need to understand is that igbos are people who have proven themselves when I comes to fighting.

Give instances where igbo people have proven themselves by how many wars they had won

The other two majority groups know what we are capable of if we decide to go all out.

If any minority group threaten our very existence, we will take care of them.

You mean you can take on the two majority groups and the minorities as well?

This why people say you guys like empty chest beating. The south east is not in a position to fight the whole country. Your territory is too tiny, too congested and too isolated. You lack natural defenses like mountains and swamps.

But in the meantime let’s continue with one Nigeria. After all igbos are milking it without any reservation.

You are now talking. It's through economic, educational and technological domination that the igbos can impose themselves on Nigeria and not through all these gra gra.

justtoodark:


ehen....go tell africans to redraw african maps and see if they will not fight you....

does map of nigeria make sense to you....??
but people will still fight you for it....

you want go demand stuffs when people are armed to the teeth....??

this redraw lines cant make sense....
you are talkin about takin from people and give to another people....

maps was a bad idea from the start and unafrican....
bad habits all over the place because of this yeye europeans....

taking from people and giving to another is not in my assumption, looking at the map it doesn't clearly explain the meaning of geography, it was drawn out of political sentiments..... tell your self the truth, you r a literate go chk on other country's map then make a comparison with Nigeria's.