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4dor:
I'd say learn HTML and CSS. If you can master both, then you have a solid foundation. There are loads of tutorials that can help on YouTube and they are free to download. If possible check out Traversy media channel on YouTube. Watching that guy's videos helped me a lot.

After sir? Reason I am asking is to give you breathing space and not disturb you with so many questions...
I really appreciate your response sir.

oluwaseyi000:

Why we were fired?
I joined this company last year, few days after finishing my NYSC, they have the highest number of software developers in Africa and I was loving life, the salary is great with breakfast and lunch

They keep on employing so many software engineer with time the engineer become more than the available job, I saw it coming but I don't know what the board was thinking

2. How did the firing process happen?
We have a global (online) meeting which people are asked not to miss, I was not even listening very well to what they are saying, the president said there are more developer than engagement to they have to let some people go, a mail was sent to all impacted people and I discovered what has just happened

Almost 400 people has been fired across Africa

3. Aftermath of being fired… how did you feel, have you recovered, did you get something better?

The company is actually a great one, they brought in pychologist to speak with us, bring in different recruiter, and other stuff, most importantly the payoff was reasonable that I can afford a Mac laptop of almost half-a-million

Luckily for me I got another reasonable job in less than 3 weeks of been retrenched


I always laugh when people complain there is no job in Nigeria, less than 5 month after leaving my previous company I have turned down almost 4 other offers some even paying than my current one


I so much saw the retrenchment coming that I once created a similar thread as this https://www.nairaland.com/5352267/why-how-loose-last-job

This must be Andela.

cooltola:
There is nothing wrong for someone or a company. There is a myth that working for a company is bad and starting your own business or working for yourself is good. I have seen some people who have started a business with nothing to show for it and have seen some people who work for someone or a company with nothing to show for it. Do your homework by studying the market, the customers and the environment before venturing out. A business or hustle that works in Oshodi might not work in Ibadan. A business that Emeka is successful at might not work Femi or vice versa.
Always put God first

Never put all your eggs in one basket and always try something new that can pay you in the long run. The job market is always changing but there are constant no matter how bad the economy which are transport business , housing and the need for foods and information.

Since we live in the internet age, it is not a bad idea for one to learn more on computer programs or IT so you can keep yourself updated.

Never put your business into the hands of friends or family. There is no family in business because they do not care about your sacrifices or what it takes to run a business, instead employ a qualified person who will increase the net worth of your business.

Never mixes business acquaintance or customers as your personal friends- Your female/male customer are not your girlfriend or boyfriend

Always think ahead of the curve by looking for way to eliminate waste-e.g. if your top customers happens to around 4-8am, you want to be there at 330am and live close to the area of your business whether there is traffic or not . It does not make sense that you live 1.5 hour away from business location because of traffic. You will lose money, time , and sanity

Always take care of your equipment that fetches you money e.g if you drive for uber, service your car regularly will save your money, and keep your car running for a long time.

Working for a very pay job means you set high standard for yourself, there are many qualified people who want your spot in the company- You do not to give room for anyone to get sack you. You do not come late for work, do your work very well and never take anything for granted

If it happens that you know that your boss or employer is at a wedding party or any social event with you, try your best never to outshine your boss at any event because tomorrow might be another story especially if the job is high paying.

Just because your job pay very well does not mean it going to last, always have a backup plan, save your money and try not to live according to your means. You do not want to be the person that made a lot of money in 2020s and now you barely can afford pay rent a self contain

Nice

CokeBar:
Share your experience with us if you have ever been fired. It would be better if we can share:

1. Why we were fired?
2. How did the firing process happen?
3. Aftermath of being fired… how did you feel, have you recovered, did you get something better?

So, I’ll start:

Sometimes last year, I got an unbelievable offer (well above #750k) at a remote company. I bought a PC, subscribed for large data and set-up a workspace. On Monday which was resumption day, I turned on my PC, logged in and started the online meeting… everything went well for the first day and I got introduced to my colleagues. My friend and I actually got employed for same position, so we usually chatted while working. To be onboarded, we had to install a productivity monitoring tool on our PCs, we were told everything we did on the PC would be captured if the tool was turned ON but I really don’t know why I cared less.

On Wednesday same week, we had a short and simple test, during the test, I asked my friend for an answer as I wasn’t so sure, he responded and that was it.

On Thursday, I had a quick one-on-one call with my manager, I was fired. Apparently, I wasn’t supposed to ask for assistance while taking the test. I apologized but the answer was a straight NO (you sabi how oyinbo people strict). So in other words, I was sacked because I cheated ☹.

Well, they paid me for the few days I worked �

I have experienced other sad situations, but this has to be the worst. I was so depressed, the following Sunday, I went to Church and it was while Pastor asked us to greet our neighbor, I remembered I didn’t brush… LMAO.

Now, I got something with abit lesser pay but still very chilled

I fired the company first by resigning

Scholar212:
The reason alot of people think the OP salary is unbelievable is because it is in naira. From the write up, it is a remote IT job which the company most likely is US based, there are many Tech guys in naija working remotely for tech companies abroad. The pay is just around $2k which will be far lower than what they will pay for same position in their country. Blame the valueless naira for making $2k dollars look so big.

Thank you... was actually $15/hr => $2400/month

Integrafamoo:
I did, but they are people with wrong mentality. Most Ekiti people believe so much in acquisition of certificates

Did you know that many people believe Nairaland is a bad place to seek advice but I always counter them. Peeps on Nairaland would have given better advice in that kind of situation, I trust them. Though, they could be annoying at times.
I have a friend in the middle east, working there and earning killer salary. He considered travelling to USA for PhD and returning back to the place to look for job. Almost everyone advised him to get tired of the job and the pay before taking that step. That way, he won't regret if another job doesn't come up soon after his PhD. My guy listened, good for him.

lonelydora:
I fired the company first by resigning

Lol, smart!

Mrshape:
mine: I was not fired but I loss the job because of let me say greediness on my part.
I am a mathematics teacher I do private lessons,
So this woman called me for lesson, I billed her 100K per month (three times a week one hour thirty minutes each)

She begged for #60,000 I said no my last is 80K
(i don't know the spirit that was speaking on my behalf because I know that was not me, maybe the spirit of one of those motivational speakers saying never settle for less)

Because my current lessons are far below her offer at that time.

When I reach house the regret I have, I have never had that in my life, well, it was a lesson that helped me in future negotiations

I'd like to speak with you.

Carmal90:
After sir? Reason I am asking is to give you breathing space and not disturb you with so many questions...
I really appreciate your response sir.

Forget about "after" for now. Focus on these two, if you master it and build something good with it then feel free free to send me a pm.

iamJ:
una no sabi work


Average wage in tech industry in America is 50k dollars a year

U expect me to believe that an employment via remote connection is worth 24000

There are customer care agents in America that dont take home 18k a year

Make una take am easy

Bro even dem freelacers are making that much in a month?
whats the fuss bout that?

philip0906:
You're getting it wrong. The problem is not that people who earn 50k or about are been called poor (afterall there's nothing wrong with earning that low if that's what is available)...the problem is when they hear that people earn 750k and scream "Na lie" ...At that point, we remind them that poverty has dealt them a hard blow.

Their "Na lie" actually means "how is this possible" in this environment with low average low salary, kind of surprise.

4dor:
If there's one thing I've learnt from this thread it's that the poverty in Naija is real. Poverty also starts as a mindset.

Mid Level Software Developers earn around 250-400k in Nigeria. Seniors earn 500k upwards, in fact sometime last year there was a vacancy in Lekki and the Salary was between 800k - 1m.

If you work remotely for a foreign company as a senior and you're good, you can even hit 1.5m monthly.

Before you try to argue, I've been in this industry for the past seven years.

If you want to be like this get a laptop and start learning how to code.

Can you pls expatiate further?
What aspect of coding...or what type of programming do you think has high prospect?

Alphaman007:
750k � and i dey collect 40k see gap. Inside life

You believed that was a real story?

4dor:
Forget about "after" for now. Focus on these two, if you master it and build something good with it then feel free free to send me a pm.

Thanks sir.

CokeBar:
Lol, smart!

It's a long story. I couldn't cope with the excesses of my immediate boss in 2017. I resigned amidst begging by the HR and other plant management. Told them I am done.

Looking at my business and new job (which I will resume this coming week. Intentionally refused to do a new job until my business stands) I thank God I left that in 2017.

bikerboy1:
These people that collect 750k salary for a month, what exactly do they do on day to day basis.

That salary is crazy

To me its not for learners.

I know people who earn in the millions monthly.

But .....












They have paid their dues.

ehisdan:
I'd like to speak with you.

ok
Chat my up on messenger
With the name IFADA MICAH

CokeBar:
Yes, why?

Please elaborate which part of IT you are specialized in. I have a well above average aptitude, and I have interest in IT but I am confused about which area I should specialize in and how to navigate my way to being in top demand.
Help a young man starting out in life

Moventist:
You believed that was a real story?

Not trying to be rude, but if you spent half the time you spend on Nigerian Politics on searching for remote tech jobs, you wouldn't ignorantly type that.

lonelydora:
It's a long story. I couldn't cope with the excesses of my immediate boss in 2017. I resigned amidst begging by the HR and other plant management. Told them I am done.

Looking at my business and new job (which I will resume this coming week. Intentionally refused to do a new job until my business stands) I thank God I left that in 2017.

Awwn, thank God it got better for you

maasoap:
Their "Na lie" actually means "how is this possible" in this environment with low average low salary, kind of surprise.

It would have made sense if that's what they meant...then it is totally understandable and we can let them know which class of Nigerians and industry earn that much...but read through the thread and see how many are beating their chests confidently.

I don't earn anything near 5 million per month but I know it's possible for people to earn that much depending on industry in Nigeria...you won't find me screaming "na lie"

oluwaseyi000:

Why we were fired?
I joined this company last year, few days after finishing my NYSC, they have the highest number of software developers in Africa and I was loving life, the salary is great with breakfast and lunch

They keep on employing so many software engineer with time the engineer become more than the available job, I saw it coming but I don't know what the board was thinking

2. How did the firing process happen?
We have a global (online) meeting which people are asked not to miss, I was not even listening very well to what they are saying, the president said there are more developer than engagement to they have to let some people go, a mail was sent to all impacted people and I discovered what has just happened

Almost 400 people has been fired across Africa

3. Aftermath of being fired… how did you feel, have you recovered, did you get something better?

The company is actually a great one, they brought in pychologist to speak with us, bring in different recruiter, and other stuff, most importantly the payoff was reasonable that I can afford a Mac laptop of almost half-a-million

Luckily for me I got another reasonable job in less than 3 weeks of been retrenched


I always laugh when people complain there is no job in Nigeria, less than 5 month after leaving my previous company I have turned down almost 4 other offers some even paying than my current one


I so much saw the retrenchment coming that I once created a similar thread as this https://www.nairaland.com/5352267/why-how-loose-last-job

Can you just elaborate? Are you a fullstack, front end or backend developer? Is your academic background in computer science or engineering? Or something else? Just elaborate

philip0906:
Shut your dirty mouth if you don't know what you're saying.

You're comparing customer care agent with a full stack engineer or a back/front end engineer? That means you don't even know what you're saying to start with.

Nigerians are doing remote programming jobs for companies in Germany, Estonia, Canada, etc and earn that much and way higher. Some of them are even offered relocation packages and pay is exactly what devs in Germany earn depending on level and skillset.

You probably don't know this because you are even comparing a customer care agent with a dev? You're ridiculous.

Bro I feel only pity for that iamJ fellow and his likes whose only stock in trade is licking Buhari's scrotal sack on nl. I mostly pity them because their failure to have experienced what a real govt with mass oriented policy feels like heightens their ignorance to every facet of life in general.

I did my masters in UK and I must tell you at a time I contemplated changing to ICT related field. I have friends in UK, Canada (most lucrative) and Australia earning millions in naiara every other week.

Personally I don't have the cerebral strength for that, not at this my age anymore. Moreover in my place of work here in Nigeria I earn over the 750k they are lamenting that it's too much. Lmao!

philip0906:
Wow!

One of the things I've learnt over time while working, is to be one step ahead.

I once worked in a company where my line manager was a compete nut head. I saw the handwriting on the wall that I needed to leave. I fired up my cv ASAP and got an offer (way better offer than I was paid) and dropped my resignation letter. My line manager was shocked...I knew he would have fired me, or atleast recommended my sack, if I didn't take that drastic step of been 1 step ahead. Soon after I left, 2 other devs, were fired.

Everywhere I have worked in my short career, I've always tried to read moves, anticipate actions and moves, position myself in a way, no one will take me by surprise.

I like this

Hahjascho:
Can you pls expatiate further?
What aspect of coding...or what type of programming do you think has high prospect?

I wish there was an answer to this question. Just pick up a language and master it. That's the foundation you need.

iamJ:
you believe the story


It's a set up to lure for a later scam


They are priming us

Thank u jare, u have sense. I don sabi Nairaland format tey tey. What is purpose of posting the salary in this story if not to bait mugus.
Now I know a few people earn this kind of money in the IT sphere (I know a couple), but I doubt they will come to nairaland to spewing it out like diarrhea. They've got better things to do.

Roadtoyesterday:
We started the work as a field agent sometime last year, it was a telecommunications work (MTN 4G upgrade) I was still in my final year in school when I joined. 4 months into the job I was made the supervisor, when I became the supervisor, I notice the agents were been short changed, in terms of benefits and payments, I tried working on the irregularities but it bounced back to me, gbam I was fired for lodging a complaint on the delayed salaries of the workers.

A. Month after, my depth profile became so high, I was the one supporting my family and sponsoring my junior ones. I hate myself for trying to be holier than thou while at work. Till this moment, I've not gained myself. I've lost everything. At this point I can only hope God sees my heart and reward me if truly God support good decision.

You only lost the job but you didn't lose your integrity which is very key. The good news is that God will visit you shortly and He will give you a job that the whole world will be happy with you.

CokeBar:
Share your experience with us if you have ever been fired. It would be better if we can share:

1. Why we were fired?
2. How did the firing process happen?
3. Aftermath of being fired… how did you feel, have you recovered, did you get something better?

So, I’ll start:

Sometimes last year, I got an unbelievable offer (well above #750k) at a remote company. I bought a PC, subscribed for large data and set-up a workspace. On Monday which was resumption day, I turned on my PC, logged in and started the online meeting… everything went well for the first day and I got introduced to my colleagues. My friend and I actually got employed for same position, so we usually chatted while working. To be onboarded, we had to install a productivity monitoring tool on our PCs, we were told everything we did on the PC would be captured if the tool was turned ON but I really don’t know why I cared less.

On Wednesday same week, we had a short and simple test, during the test, I asked my friend for an answer as I wasn’t so sure, he responded and that was it.

On Thursday, I had a quick one-on-one call with my manager, I was fired. Apparently, I wasn’t supposed to ask for assistance while taking the test. I apologized but the answer was a straight NO (you sabi how oyinbo people strict). So in other words, I was sacked because I cheated ☹.

Well, they paid me for the few days I worked �

I have experienced other sad situations, but this has to be the worst. I was so depressed, the following Sunday, I went to Church and it was while Pastor asked us to greet our neighbor, I remembered I didn’t brush… LMAO.

Now, I got something with abit lesser pay but still very chilled

I have a few questions

How did you get the job
Did you use to work at tekxperts

I am trying to rack my name for this remote company that a lot of Nigerians work for, just can't seem to get it

4dor:
I wish there was an answer to this question. Just pick up a language and master it. That's the foundation you need.

Ok, thanks... already on some.

CokeBar:
750k anually? I wouldn't have been bothered.

It's over 750k/month

2k usd.
Good by naija standards.
What aspect of IT will you recommend for one to focus on? I want to encourage my son to do some IT studies during his break.

philip0906:
It would have made sense if that's what they meant ...then it is totally understandable and we can let them know which class of Nigerians and industry earn that much...but read through the thread and see how many are beating their chests confidently.

I don't earn anything near 5 million per month but I know it's possible for people to earn that much depending on industry in Nigeria...you won't find me screaming "na lie"

I can assure you that that's exactly what they meant. They're more surprised than not believing it. It's strange to them. And their stubbornness won't let them listen to explanation