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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 5:38pm On Mar 09, 2020
oaroloye:

You pretended that my Scriptural Quotations did not answer your every point, as well as my painstaking explanations that overestimated your Intelligence Quotient.

No time for your gibberish.

Besides I am not atheist, lol.

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 6:19pm On Mar 09, 2020
frosbel2:


No time for your gibberish.

Besides I am not atheist, lol.
Lol!

I do wonder who reads him
Seems he talks more than he actually reads!

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Vintax(m): 7:31pm On Mar 09, 2020
frosbel2:
I would like to state a few reasons why I think Jesus cannot save you. These reasons are based on hard facts , experience and what I see happening in Nigeria on a daily basis.

Jesus cannot defeat Boko Haram
Despite pastors cursing Boko Haram on a daily basis, and despite all the prayers to Jesus, Boko Haram is still a pain in our back side.

Jesus cannot bring you peace
Despite the promise of peace, many Christians suffer from stress, high blood pressure and anxiety. Sorry, Jesus cannot bring you peace. If you want peace, live within your means, live a contented life, avoid a quarrelsome existence and, operate by the well known mantra - live and let live.

Jesus cannot heal the sick
Our hospitals are overwhelmed with the sick despite the large population of born again believers. Even though healing is prominently promised in the bible, the sick are not getting healed by Jesus, they are getting healed by medicine and doctors.

Jesus cannot make you rich
95% of people who pay tithes are broke, despite the bible promising a bountiful harverst. Jesus is not a money multiplier, he cannot make you rich. You gotta work hard bro and sis.

Jesus cannot bring overwhelming righteousness to Nigeria
The bible says that when the light shines , the darkness is driven out. In Nigeria it appears that the darkness is driving out the light despite the millions and millions of born again believers. It's either 99% of the believers in Nigeria are fake or Jesus is fake. Irrespective, Jesus followers and their master are not increasing righteousness in Nigeria.

Jesus cannot make you overcome sin

Oh please dont make me laugh. Christians in Nigeria are unable to overcome sin , thats for sure. They lie, cheat, steal, fornicate, bribe, receive bribes, bear false witness, sleep with the wives/husbands of other people, hate anyone who is not part of their church talk less of Christianity as a whole and humanity in general.......

Jesus cannot make the blind see or deaf hear
No need for examples here, even Christians know this is true; and yet Jesus told his followers that they will make the blind see and deaf hear. Another lie ??

Jesus cannot raise the dead
As a former Christian in some of the staunchest cultic sects, I have never seen a dead body raised from the dead. Its either Jesus lied, or Christians are doing it wrong.

Jesus cannot drive out demons
So many mad people and mentally challenged individuals in Nigeria and Christians are unable to cast out their demons and restore them to sanity.

Jesus is not coming back
His disciples expected him to come back in their life time to no avail. Its now over 2000 years and Jesus is still not here. Oh please, stop deceiving yourselves, he aint coming back.
BUT JESUS GOT YOU CONFUSED?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 7:56pm On Mar 09, 2020
Vintax:

BUT JESUS GOT YOU CONFUSED?

yep
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by pressplay411(m): 8:00pm On Mar 09, 2020
frosbel2:
I would like to state a few reasons why I think Jesus cannot save you. These reasons are based on hard facts , experience and what I see happening in Nigeria on a daily basis.

Jesus cannot defeat Boko Haram
Despite pastors cursing Boko Haram on a daily basis, and despite all the prayers to Jesus, Boko Haram is still a pain in our back side.

Jesus cannot bring you peace
Despite the promise of peace, many Christians suffer from stress, high blood pressure and anxiety. Sorry, Jesus cannot bring you peace. If you want peace, live within your means, live a contented life, avoid a quarrelsome existence and, operate by the well known mantra - live and let live.

Jesus cannot heal the sick
Our hospitals are overwhelmed with the sick despite the large population of born again believers. Even though healing is prominently promised in the bible, the sick are not getting healed by Jesus, they are getting healed by medicine and doctors.

Jesus cannot make you rich
95% of people who pay tithes are broke, despite the bible promising a bountiful harverst. Jesus is not a money multiplier, he cannot make you rich. You gotta work hard bro and sis.

Jesus cannot bring overwhelming righteousness to Nigeria
The bible says that when the light shines , the darkness is driven out. In Nigeria it appears that the darkness is driving out the light despite the millions and millions of born again believers. It's either 99% of the believers in Nigeria are fake or Jesus is fake. Irrespective, Jesus followers and their master are not increasing righteousness in Nigeria.

Jesus cannot make you overcome sin

Oh please dont make me laugh. Christians in Nigeria are unable to overcome sin , thats for sure. They lie, cheat, steal, fornicate, bribe, receive bribes, bear false witness, sleep with the wives/husbands of other people, hate anyone who is not part of their church talk less of Christianity as a whole and humanity in general.......

Jesus cannot make the blind see or deaf hear
No need for examples here, even Christians know this is true; and yet Jesus told his followers that they will make the blind see and deaf hear. Another lie ??

Jesus cannot raise the dead
As a former Christian in some of the staunchest cultic sects, I have never seen a dead body raised from the dead. Its either Jesus lied, or Christians are doing it wrong.

Jesus cannot drive out demons
So many mad people and mentally challenged individuals in Nigeria and Christians are unable to cast out their demons and restore them to sanity.

Jesus is not coming back
His disciples expected him to come back in their life time to no avail. Its now over 2000 years and Jesus is still not here. Oh please, stop deceiving yourselves, he aint coming back.

Salient points but...
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 8:42pm On Mar 09, 2020
lepasharon:


Trash
wow. Ok
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 9:57pm On Mar 09, 2020
pressplay411:


Salient points but...

Thank You......

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 8:28am On Mar 10, 2020
MISHIGAS!

frosbel2:


1. They enjoy the misfortune of others.
The malevolent ways of evil people often leave them so twisted and turned around on the inside that they feel good when they see misfortune.
It might be a disaster on the news or a dramatic situation in front of them. They seem to delight in misfortune, to relish the bad feelings of other people.

2. They have control issues.
Evil people have this in common: they're controlling. But it's not all about controlling you. They often feel downright uncomfortable and powerless if they aren't in control of every aspect of their lives.

3. They are habitually dishonest.
Let's be real. Everyone lies. We all do it. Some are little lies, others are big, big lies. But while everyone lies, not everyone is a liar. A liar is a real special breed. They lie pathologically, constantly, and sometimes without even realizing it. An evil liar will often lie so much that their lies are what form their reality. In living a life of lies, their own minds become prisoners to their own evil behaviors.

4. You feel strange around them.
It's been pretty well-demonstrated that each of our bodies emits an energy field. Why that is, we're not totally clear on. It could serve as an intuitive defense system.But in the same way that if you eat bad food, it shows on your skin; if you're evil on the inside, it shows up in your energy field.
This might be why evil people give you a creepy feeling without them having actually done anything evil to you at all. Who they are on the inside can be picked up in their subtle energy field by your energy field.

5. They mislead you.
Controlling reality is what gives an evil person most of their power. In doing so, they're able to make it conform to their petty wants and desires.
This is why evil people have a tell: they mislead you into thinking one way or another about them, about the people in your life already, and about yourself. This misleading can come in many different forms, like misquoting, lying, or stretching the truth and twisting the facts.

6. They lack remorse.
You know the worst part about it all? They aren't ever sorry for the things they do and the way they make you feel. Evil people truly have no remorse.

7. They are cruel.
So far, we've talked about evil people and the subtle ways they express their inner malevolent desires. Not all evil people like to be sly about it. Some choose to be outward with it. And one way they do so is through cruelty.

8. They lack responsibility.
An evil person has no sort of a moral compass. They'll do as they please and will never feel responsible for the pain they have caused to others.

9. Their friends and family warn you.
A lot of the time one of the first signs that a person is truly evil is if their "friends" and family issue you warnings.

10. They are bad friends.
If an evil person comes to your assistance, know that they are doing it for a purpose.

11. They are racist, sexist, or are bigots.
Evil thrives when the good are divided. This has made some of the evilest people in the world — from Hitler to Stalin to Osama bin Laden — so wildly successful. They've taken the petty differences between people and used it to sow larger and larger rifts that end up in disaster. Often, they use bigotry, , sexism, racism, and fascism, in general, to keep good people apart, and to breed more evil people in the world.

12. They manipulate.
Evil people are just as capable of showing kindness as any malevolent behavior, but what truly sets them apart is the price that comes with their kindness. Often times, evil people will be kind to you only to get something they need from you later, be it money, sex, subservience, or worse.

13. They belittle you.
One of the worst manipulations of an evil person is emotional manipulation. Usually, this comes in the form of being belittled.


14. They confuse and conflict.
In the same way that evil people use the aforementioned tactics to split up good people, they'll utilize chaos, confusion, and conflict to their benefit. The more scattered, scared, and unsure you are, the more power they're going to have over you.

15. They lead double lives.
Malevolent people will never reveal their true lives to you. Saying they lead double lives is a huge understatement. They lead hundreds of lives. They are whoever they need to be to get what they want.

16. They don't have boundaries.
Evil people are persistent, gregarious, intense, clingy, and fake. In a lot of ways, they're like boomerangs. No matter how hard you throw them out of your life, they always wind up circling back around to you.

An evil person can change, but they can only do it on their own. And you can't force them to change. They can only change when their hearts are open, they're ready to atone for what they've done, and they're ready to work hard at reforming their malevolent ways.

https://www.yourtango.com/2017307353/16-signs-person-evil-and-you-need-stay-away


HERE ARE SOME LITTLE-KNOWN COMMANDMENTS ONLY I QUOTE:

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."


. DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. "Cursed be he
that confirmeth not
all The Words of this Law
to do them."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THIRTY-SIX YEARS AGO I HAD A SINGULAR PSYCHIC EXPERIENCE IN WHICH I ACHIEVED TOTAL RECALL OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

At the time, I had no idea what had happened to me, nor why. I knew how this had happened, of course: PRAYER, MEDITATION, and INTERMITTENT FASTING. I could not correlate my experience with anything I had ever heard about my Religion nor anyone else's.

The effect of that was that I knew The Bible Answer to every Problem. I knew The Commandments of God for or against everything I heard.

That included BIBLE MESSENGERS.

I could see where things the Apostles said contradicted The Gospel of Lord Yeshua, and The Law of Moses.

My Experience did not make me OMNISCIENT; I did not become "ALL-WISE."

There was no one I could talk to about this, so I didn't. All they would do was lie to me, anyway.

It took seven years to begin to find answers. I encountered the Anthropological Research of CARLOS CASTANEDA, researching Native American Mysticism, and two more years after that, I discovered LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD'S DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY.

It is due to the dedicated efforts of SCUM TRAITORS of our own country- such as WILLIAM FOLORUNSO KUMUYI and his SHALLOWER DEATH® minions- that this Knowledge has not become common on our continent.

My greatest breakthrough came about while I was listening to a taped L. Ron Hubbard Message: THE PERCEPTION OF TRUTH LECTURES at the Scientology Headquarters at Palmgrove, Lagos.

L. Ron Hubbard explained that it was a practice of Ancient Oriental Religions to DELIBERATELY FALSIFY THEIR SCRIPTURES, so that anyone trying yo read them without the cooperative direction of their Authorized Masters and Disciples would be totally f(*Bleep!*)ked up (my term, not his).

He cited the example of Hindu Scriptures that gave instructions for EXTERIORIZATION- the Release of the "Astral Body" - which, if followed literally, DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

If the exercise is done the way the Scriptures say, one's Soul is TRAPPED inside one's Body, as if with IRON BARS.

Steps of Instructions could be REVERSED, OMITTED, or SCRAMBLED. An authentic MASTER would know the difference, but an outsider, who just picked up the scroll, and thought he knew something, would be completely messed-up.

This made an impact on me, because DON JUAN MATUS, told CARLOS CASTANEDA about a South American Indian Tribe that conquered another Tribe, of vastly superior Spiritual Knowledge- none of which could work against them, BECAUSE OF THEIR IGNORANCE. Sorcery, he explained, does not work on people who have NO SPIRITUALITY WHATSOEVER.

Therefore, once they killed the Ancient Tribe, they took over their Religious Procedures, and copied them BLINDLY, never learning to *see.*

Carlos Castaneda asked him how he knew that, and Don Juan said that it was because THEY NEVER ATTAINED THE INNER KNOWLEDGE OF THE ANCIENTS.

It is these details that pepper Carlos Castaneda's Testimony that assure me that his Work was not faked, as he was later accused of, by ONE guy- RICHARD de MILLE- who was the same MOLE embedded in SCIENTOLOGY from the very beginning (1950-1954) and tried to implicate L. Ron Hubbard in kidnapping of his own wife. He left Scientology, denouncing it as "fake," after being a FOUNDING MEMBER of DIANETICS for its first four years!

You need to understand that there are powerful enemies trying to keep this Knowledge away from us Black people in particular. There are stupid Black people, like W.F. KUMUYI, E-KNOCK ADEBOYE,® and TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA,® who claim that they are doing God's Work, by breaking His explicit Commandments, like the Pharisees, with "clever" "interpretations."

L. Ron Hubbard complained that the Hindu Scriptures contained TWELVE LIES for EVERY TRUTH they contained.

I was immediately jolted.

Twelve lies for every Truth.
Twelve lies versus one Truth.
Twelve versus one...

Where had I heard that before?

There is an Oyinbo artform where, if you look at a picture, in complete ignorance, you think that you know what it is.

However, if someone tells you the Secret- your Brain processes the image differently, and it appears to have changed into something else. Whereas, none of the lines or shadings could possibly move anywhere.

There is a picture which, if you are some innocent kid, you will see it as a pod of Dolphins, but if you view it as a sexually-perverted teen, or adult, it looks like men and women doing... things.

A quick Google Search of "AMBIGUOUS IMAGES" turns up loads of such images.

There is an image that looks like a black elephant, or three white rabbits. An old woman or a young woman. The face of CESARE BORGIA (whom the fake Christians I mentioned think is "Christ,"wink or a bunch of his Disciples.

So too, I immediately understood The New Testament differently.

Everyone calling themselves an "APOSTLE" was LYING against Lord Yeshua.

L. Ron Hubbard was fond of saying: "THE HIGHEST TRUTH IS A SIMPLICITY!"

Once you understand that the Apostles were LYING, all the complicated Theological explanations no one can understand, except the Seminarians, become VERY SIMPLE INDEED.

They are just LIES, that's all.

. 2nd SAMUEL 12:1-10.

And The LORD
sent Nathan unto David.
And he came unto him,
and said unto him,

"There were two men in one city;
the one rich, and the other poor.
2. "The rich man had
exceeding many flocks and herds:
3. "But the poor man had nothing,
save one little ewe lamb,
which he had bought
and nourished up:
and it grew up together with him,
and with his children;
it did eat of his own meat,
and drank of his own cup,
and lay in his bosom,
and was unto him as a daughter.
4. "And there came a traveller
unto the rich man,
and he spared to take of his own flock
and of his own herd,
to dress for the wayfaring man
that was come unto him;
but took the poor man's lamb,
and dressed it for the man
that was come to him."

5. And David's anger
was greatly kindled against the man;
and he said to Nathan,

"As The LORD liveth,
the man that hath done this thing
shall surely die:
6. "And he shall
restore the lamb fourfold,
because he did this thing,
and because he had no pity."

7. And Nathan said to David,

"Thou art the man.
Thus Saith the LORD God of Israel,

'I ANOINTED THEE
KING OVER ISRAEL,
AND I DELIVERED THEE
OUT OF THE HAND OF SAUL;
8. 'AND I GAVE THEE
THY MASTER'S HOUSE,
AND THY MASTER'S WIVES
INTO THY BOSOM,
AND GAVE THEE
THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL
AND OF JUDAH;
AND IF THAT HAD BEEN TOO LITTLE,
I WOULD MOREOVER
HAVE GIVEN UNTO THEE
SUCH AND SUCH THINGS.
9. 'WHEREFORE HAST THOU DESPISED
THE COMMANDMENT OF THE LORD,
TO DO EVIL IN HIS SIGHT?
THOU HAST KILLED URIAH THE HITTITE
WITH THE SWORD,
AND HAST TAKEN HIS WIFE
TO BE THY WIFE,
AND HAST SLAIN HIM
WITH THE SWORD
OF THE CHILDREN OF AMMON.
10. 'NOW THEREFORE
THE SWORD SHALL NEVER
DEPART FROM THINE HOUSE;
BECAUSE THOU HAST DESPISED ME,
AND HAST TAKEN THE WIFE
OF URIAH THE HITTITE
TO BE THY WIFE.' "


"Cursing the Deaf" would include giving people a judgment, supposedly against someone those victims would not care about, whereas, in reality, these victims are being led to pass judgment against people whom they do care about. Even against themselves.

The Pharisees used that tactic against Lord Yeshua at least once.

PAUL uses it it here:


. ROMANS 1:21-23.

21. Because that,
when they knew God,
they glorified Him
not as God,
neither were thankful;
but became vain in their imaginations,
and their foolish heart was darkened.
22. Professing themselves
to be wise,
they became fools,
23. And changed the Glory
of the Uncorruptible God
into an image made
like to corruptible man,
and to birds,
and fourfooted beasts,
and creeping things.

THIS COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN WHAT THE PHARISEES HAD ALWAYS SAID ABOUT THE MINISTRY OF THE LORD YESHUA, FROM THE BEGINNING.

Shallow-minded False Christians will happily cheer Paul's rant, vaguely thinking it to be against some Idolaters and Homos they don't care about.

. MATTHEW 13:34-35.

34 All these things
Spake Jesus unto
the multitude in Parables;
and without a Parable
Spake he not unto them:
35. That it might be fulfilled
which was spoken by
the Prophet,
saying,

"I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH
IN PARABLES;
I WILL UTTER THINGS
WHICH HAVE BEEN
KEPT SECRET FROM
THE FOUNDATION
OF THE WORLD."


. MARK 4:33-34.

33. And with many
such Parables
spake he The Word
unto them,
as they were able to hear It.
34. But without a Parable
spake he not unto them:
and when they were alone,
he expounded all things
to his Disciples.

IN NEARLY 2,000 YEARS, NO CHRISTIAN EVER REALIZED THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT LORD YESHUA AND HIS FOLLOWERS?

I cannot unsee these perceptions.

Therefore, I have to know that all who do not see what I see have something critically wrong with them- WHICH WILL RESULT IN THEIR CERTAIN DEATH AND DAMNATION.

It is surely too late for most.

ARE THOSE ACCUSATIONS NOT WHAT THE OYINBO ATHEISTS ACCUSE YAHWEH GOD OF BEING?

[See: THE GOD DELUSION, by Richard Dawkins.]

I am not blind.

I am not deaf.

I see very clearly; I understand what I hear.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, THAT YOU CONTRIVED TO COMMUNICATE THIS BLASPHEMY AGAINST OUR CREATOR?

oaroloye:

ATHEISM IS AN ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER!

You pretended that my Scriptural Quotations did not answer your every point, as well as my painstaking explanations that overestimated your Intelligence Quotient.

frosbel2:


No time for your gibberish.

Besides I am not atheist, lol.

YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF YAHWEH GOD, AND YOU DESPISE HIS WORD, GIVING NO ALTERNATIVE WISDOM- THAT IS PROOF OF ATHEISM.

budaatum:

Lol!

I do wonder who reads him
Seems he talks more than he actually reads!

Maximus69:

From your post it's clear that you've been with misinformed churchgoers for long and they've filled your minds with fallacies, so if you've not met the TRUE Christians you'll continue to misconstrue the concept.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

THE LAST AMMUNITION IN THE HYPOCRITE'S ARSENAL IS TO ACCUSE OTHERS OF WHAT THEY ARE, THEMSELVES!
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 2:33pm On Mar 10, 2020
oaroloye:

MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.

And we should suppose you are not judging here, right? Or perhaps it's that you have special permission to judge?

oaroloye:
YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF YAHWEH GOD, AND YOU DESPISE HIS WORD, GIVING NO ALTERNATIVE WISDOM- THAT IS PROOF OF ATHEISM.

You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

Why therefore do you not obey God by loving others?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by pressplay411(m): 6:41am On Mar 11, 2020
frosbel2:


Thank You......

While it would seem you're right. I believe the core focus of Jesus is the Kingdom of Heaven.
And that really can't be observed physicaly but spiritually.

Physically and sensually it always seems like Jesus lost.
For example when he died, even the disciples thought it was a defeat. They never knew it was a spiritual victory even though Jesus prophesied it beforehand. It wasn't until the journey to Emmaus before they understood it.

Homeshly, Jesus saves but I believe the church has overplayed it making believers lazy and most pastors are simply taking advantage of believers that don't study the bible.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Moreland: 6:43am On Mar 11, 2020
The Bible records a considerable number of physical healing accounts in the Old Testament. Likewise, in the ministry of Jesus and his disciples, healing miracles are prominently highlighted. And throughout the ages of church history, believers have continued to testify of God's power to divinely heal the sick MyPrepaidCenter
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by pressplay411(m): 6:47am On Mar 11, 2020
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

THE LAST AMMUNITION IN THE HYPOCRITE'S ARSENAL IS TO ACCUSE OTHERS OF WHAT THEY ARE, THEMSELVES!

Communication is an art and a science.
You need to learn that.
There's a skill to it.
It's pointless when you have important points but you lose the interest of your interlocutor (audience).
Try to keep your answers pithy and terse. The internet is too vast to expect people to spend time on one comment.

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 10:14am On Mar 11, 2020
MISHIGAS!

oaroloye:


. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

THE LAST AMMUNITION IN THE HYPOCRITE'S ARSENAL IS TO ACCUSE OTHERS OF WHAT THEY ARE, THEMSELVES!

budaatum:

And we should suppose you are not judging here, right? Or perhaps it's that you have special permission to judge?

SCIENTOLOGY WAS RIPPED-OFF FROM THE BIBLE- THEREFORE I JUDGE ITS ERRORS, AND RIP IT BACK.

SCIENTOLOGY discovered that "Normal" people are rarely fully-conscious, but while supposedly awake are in effect sleepwalking through life in a "mild" Hypnotic Trance state.

There are therefore even multiple barriers between their Consciousness and their Ability to perceive Reality.

Untrained Sinners therefore do not perceive what is before them, but whatever they Dream or Hallucinate is before them.

These Imaginary Views can be imposed by Suggestion.

You did not perceive MATTHEW 7:1-2, but what SOMEONE TOLD YOU to BELIEVE MATTHEW 7:1-2 says.

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

MEDITATION IS NECESSARY TO BREAK THROUGH PERCEPTUAL BARRIERS.

To Totally Understand a Scripture, it is necessary to say It to yourself audibly repeatedly- hundreds into thousands of times daily, until all the Condensed and Opposing Spiritual Energy Barriers obfuscating your Perception of The Truth are gone.

You will then attain a higher State of Consciousness- which must be Physically-Applied, immediately, or else it can be lost.

This process is extremely dangerous for someone who is not a keeper of THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES. It is like being BLOWN WITH WIND, RAINED UPON, AND FLOODED: without what Lord Yeshua called "THE ROCK FOUNDATION," one's very MIND will be BLOWN AWAY LIKE CHAFF, BEATEN DOWN, as by RAINDROPS, or FLOODED.

That would be how DEVIL-POSSESIONS occur.

In SCIENTOLOGY, L. Ron Hubbard fraudulently PARAPHRASED Biblical Procedures, omitting all references to GOD, and claimed to have discovered them.

Therefore, a quick method of punching through the barriers is his OPENING PROCEDURE 8C:

The PreClear faces a WALL, selects a SPOT on the wall.

Then touches the spot.

Then withdraws from the Spot.

The process is repeated, until a Heightened State of Consciousness is achieved.

This may take some time.

Perhaps as short as 20 minutes, for some. 20 hours for others.

Eventually Cognition (revelation) occurs- but if the PreClear were not significantly mentally-stable to begin with, THEY COULD GO COMPLETELY INSANE.

This could result in (of course, this is, more-or-less pure speculation on my part,) PARANOID, OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR!

If only there were some Nairalander example around, to use as proof of that Theory...!

(MOVING ON...!) YOU READ that MATTHEW 7:1-2 said that Christians who love God cannot JUDGE.

Since the Satanic Trance is so widespread, that Suggestion works on most Christians.

. LEVITICUS 19:11-18.

11. "Ye shall not steal,
neither deal falsely,
neither lie one to another.
12. "And ye shall not swear
by My Name falsely,
neither shalt thou profane
The Name of thy God:
I am The LORD.
13. "Thou shalt not
defraud thy Neighbour,
neither rob him:
the wages of
him that is hired
shall not abide with thee
all night until the morning.
14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I am The LORD.
15. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness
in Judgment:
thou shalt not
respect the person
of the Poor,
nor honor the person
of the Mighty:
but in righteousness shalt thou
Judge thy Neighbour.
16. "Thou shalt not go up and down
as a Talebearer among thy people:
neither shalt thou stand against
the blood of thy Neighbour;
I am The LORD.
17. "Thou shalt not
hate thy Brother in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise
Rebuke thy Neighbour,
and not suffer Sin upon him.
18. "Thou shalt not avenge,
nor bear any grudge against
the Children of thy People,
but thou shalt love
thy Neighbour as thyself:
I am the LORD."

. LEVITICUS 19:32-37.

32. Thou shalt rise up
before the hoary head,
and honour the face
of the old man,
and fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD.
33. "And if a stranger
sojourn with thee in your land,
ye shall not vex him.
34. " (But) the stranger
that dwelleth with you
shall be unto you
as one born among you,
and thou shalt love him as thyself;
for ye were strangers
in the land of Egypt:
I (am) The LORD your God.
35. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness in Judgment,
in meteyard, in weight,
or in measure.
36. "Just balances,
just weights,
a just ephah,
and a just hin,
shall ye have:
I (am) The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt.
37.Therefore shall ye
observe all My Statutes,
and all My Judgments,
and do them:
I am The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 25:11-19.

11. When men strive together
one with another,
and the wife of the one
draweth near
for to deliver her husband
out of the hand of him
that smiteth him,
and putteth forth her hand,
and taketh him by the secrets:
12. Then thou shalt
cut off her hand,
thine eye shall not pity her.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag
divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not
have in thine house
divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an abomination
unto the LORD thy God.

17. Remember what Amalek
did unto thee by the way,
when ye were come forth
out of Egypt;
18. How he met thee
by the way,
and smote
the hindmost of thee,
even all that were feeble
behind thee,
when thou wast
faint and weary;
and he feared not God.
19. Therefore it shall be,
when the LORD thy God
hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies
round about,
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee
for an inheritance
to possess it,
that thou shalt blot out
the Remembrance of Amalek
from under Heaven;
thou shalt not forget it.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. "Cursed be he
that confirmeth not
all The Words of this Law
to do them."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

MOSES NEVER TOLD HIS PEOPLE THAT IMPLEMENTING CAPITAL PUNISHMENTS UPON FELLOW SINNERS WOULD KILL THEM.

I define the difference between sanity and insanity thusly: a sane person loves correction- of themselves, and others; the insane hate correction- of themselves, and others.

. MATTHEW 5:16-26.

16. "Let your light
so shine before men,
that they may
see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law,
or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I Say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore shall break
one of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the least
in the Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do
and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I Say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT
YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED
THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES
AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE
ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'


21. "Ye have heard
that it was said
by them of Old Time,

'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'

and

'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGEMENT:


22. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER
IS ANGRY
WITH HIS BROTHER
WITHOUT A CAUSE
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:


and whosoever shall say
to his Brother,

'RACA,'

shall be in Danger of the Council:
but whosoever shall say,

"THOU FOOL,"

shall be in Danger
of Hell Fire.

23. "Therefore if thou
bring thy Gift to the Altar,
and there rememberest
that thy Brother
hath ought against thee;
24. "Leave there thy Gift
before the Altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled
to thy Brother,
and then come
and offer thy Gift.
25. "Agree with thine
Adversary quickly,
whiles thou art
in the way with him;
lest at any time
the Adversary deliver thee
to the judge,
and the Judge deliver thee
to the Officer,
and thou be
cast into Prison.
26. "Verily I Say unto thee,

"THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS
COME OUT THENCE,
TILL THOU HAST PAID
THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' "


The Lord never Forbade JUDGMENT: It is a Fundamental Tenet of YAHWEH GOD'S Religion.

.. JOHN 7:24.

24. "Judge not
according to the appearance,
but judge
Righteous Judgment."


JUDGING OTHERS, FOR WHAT ONE IS ONESELF ALSO GUILTY OF, BRINGS JUDGMENT UPON ONESELF!

This was how MOSES was able to TRICK his fellow Israelite Adults into KILLING THEMSELVES on their 40 year trek.

Many fools seize on MATTHEW 5:22 as an excuse to CONDEMN anyone who calls someone a FOOL.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK?

No one is a FOOL anymore?

FOOLS get Special Protected Status, now?

FOOLISHNESS has VANISHED from the Earth?

PEOPLE SACRIFICED THEIR SOCIAL-STANDING TO BE WITH LORD YESHUA.

Those accused of neglecting their familial duties could be declared "RACA."

A Court Case would be necessary to clear their name.

If it went against the accusers, what they wanted to do to the accused could be done to them.

YACUB bar MARY, brother of Lord YESHUA, was evidently trying to do that to him, when he, their other Brethren, and their Mother, Mary, tried to crash his meeting.

More on him, later.

MATTHEW 5:22 MEANS THAT THOSE CALLING LORD YESHUAS DISCIPLES "FOOLS," FOR FOLLOWING HIM, WERE HEADED FOR HELL!

budaatum:

You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

Why therefore do you not obey God by loving others?

YACUB bar MARY WAS A HYPOCRITE, WHO SPEARHEADED THE INITIATIVE TO BAN GENTILE CHRISTIANS FROM BEING CIRCUMCISED, AND LEARNING THE LAW OF MOSES FROM HEBREW CHRISTIANS.


. ACTS 15:1-21.

AND certain men
which came down from Judaea
taught the Brethren,
and said,

“EXCEPT YE BE CIRCUMCISED
AFTER THE MANNER OF MOSES,
YE CANNOT BE SAVED.”


2. When therefore Paul and Barnabas
had no small dissension
and disputation with them,
they determined
that Paul and Barnabas,
and certain other of them,
should go up to Jerusalem
unto the Apostles and Elders
about this question.
3. And being brought
on their way
by the Church,
they passed through
Phenice and Samaria,
declaring the Conversion of the Gentiles:
and they caused great joy unto all the Brethren.
4. And when they were come to Jerusalem,
they were received of the Church,
and of the Apostles and Elders,
and they declared all things
that God had done with them.
5. But there rose up certain of the sect
of the Pharisees which Believed,
saying,

"THAT IT WAS NEEDFUL
TO CIRCUMCISE THEM,
AND TO COMMAND THEM
TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES."


6. And the Apostles and Elders came together
for to consider of this matter.
7. And when there had been much disputing,
Peter rose up,
and said unto them,

“Men and Brethren,
ye know how that
a good while ago
God made choice among us,
that the Gentiles by my mouth
should hear the Word of The Gospel,
and Believe.
8. And God,
which knoweth the hearts,
bare them witness,
giving them The Holy Ghost,
even as he did unto us;
9. “And put no difference
between us and them,
purifying their hearts by Faith.
10. "Now therefore
why tempt ye God,
to put a yoke
upon the neck
of the Disciples,
which neither
our fathers nor we
were able to bear?"

11. “But we believe that
through The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ
we shall be Saved,
even as they.”

12. Then all the multitude
kept silence,
and gave audience
to Barnabas and Paul,
declaring what
miracles and wonders
God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13. And after they had held their peace,
James answered, saying,

"Men and Brethren,
hearken unto me:
14. "Simeon hath
declared how God
at the first did
visit the Gentiles,
to take out of them
a people for His Name.
15." And to this agree the Words of the Prophets;
as it is written,

16. 'AFTER THIS
I WILL RETURN,
AND WILL BUILD AGAIN
THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID,
WHICH IS FALLEN DOWN;
AND I WILL BUILD AGAIN
THE RUINS THEREOF,
AND I WILL SET IT UP:
17. 'THAT THE RESIDUE
OF MEN
MIGHT SEEK AFTER THE LORD,
AND ALL THE GENTILES,
UPON WHOM MY NAME IS CALLED,
SAITH THE LORD,
WHO DOETH ALL THESE THINGS.'


18. "Known unto God
are all His Works
from The Beginning
of the World.
19. "Wherefore my sentence is,
that we trouble not them,
which from among
the Gentiles
are turned to God:
20. "But that we write
unto them,
that they abstain from pollutions of idols
and from fornication,
and from things strangled,
and from blood.
21. "For Moses of Old Time hath in every city
them that preach him,
being read
in the synagogues
every Sabbath Day."

YACUB KNEW THAT FORBIDDING CIRCUMCISION AND THE LAW OF MOSES WOULD TOTALLY DESTROY THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS.

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'


11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

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[(2 of 2) Concluding:]

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. "Cursed be he
that confirmeth not
all The Words of this Law
to do them."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

DESTROYING GENTILES BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE WAS CONSIDERED "GOOD FORM" BY ISRAELITES.

. DEUTERONOMY 23:1-6.

HE that is wounded
in the stones,
or hath his privy member
cut off,
shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD.
2. A (*Bleep!*)ard shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD;
even to his Tenth Generation
shall he not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD.
3. An Ammonite or Moabite
shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD;
even to their Tenth Generation
shall they not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD
for ever:
4. Because they met you not
with bread and with water
in the Way,
when ye came forth
out of Egypt;
and because they
hired against thee
Balaam the son of Beor
of Pethor of Mesopotamia,
to Curse thee.
5. Nevertheless The LORD
thy God would not Hearken
unto Balaam;
but The LORD thy God
turned the Curse
into a Blessing unto thee,
because The LORD thy God
loved thee.
6. Thou shalt not
seek their Peace
nor their Prosperity
all thy days for ever.

LORD YESHUA FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES FROM BECOMING RABBIS AND MASTERS.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes
and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them
on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings
in the markets,
and to be called of men,
'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man
your father
upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye
called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is
greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall
exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall
humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

YACUB SEEMED TO THINK THAT BEING JUDGED BY HIS BROTHER WOULD BE NO BIGGIE!"

. JAMES 3:1.

MY Brethren,
be not many masters,
knowing that we shall receive
The Greater Condemnation.

YACUB CONSIDERED HIMSELF A MASTER OF THE CHURCH- IN COMPLETE DISOBEDIENCE OF LORD YESHUA'S EXPLICIT COMMANDMENT.

He seemed to think that he would get off with nothing more than a mild slap-on-the-wrist. He was used to a Yeshua who only TALKED.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:1-4.

IF there be
a controversy between men,
and they come unto judgment,
that the judges
may judge them;
then they shall justify the Righteous,
and condemn the Wicked.
2. And it shall be,
if the Wicked man
be worthy to be beaten,
that the judge
shall cause him
to lie down,
and to be beaten
before his face,
according to his fault,
by a certain number.
3. Forty stripes
he may give him,
and not exceed:
lest, if he should exceed,
and beat him above these
with many stripes,
then thy Brother
should seem vile unto thee.
4. Thou shalt not muzzle the ox
when he treadeth out (the corn).

. LUKE 12:35-48.

34. "For where
your Treasure is,
there will your heart
be also.
35. "Let your loins
be girded about,
and your lights burning;
36. "And ye yourselves
like unto men
that wait for their lord,
when he will return
from the wedding;
that when he cometh
and knocketh,
they may open unto him
immediately.
37. "Blessed are
those servants,
whom the lord
when he cometh
shall find watching:
verily I Say unto you,

'THAT HE SHALL
GIRD HIMSELF,
AND MAKE THEM
SIT DOWN TO MEAT,
AND WILL COME FORTH
AND SERVE THEM.'


38. "And if he shall come
in the Second Watch,
or come in the Third Watch,
and find them so,
blessed are those servants.
39. "And this know,

'THAT IF THE GOODMAN
OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN
WHAT HOUR
THE THIEF WOULD COME
HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED,
AND NOT SUFFERED
HIS HOUSE TO BE
BROKEN THROUGH.'


40. "Be ye therefore ready also:
for The Son of Man cometh
at an hour when ye think not."

41. Then Peter said unto him,

"Lord, Speakest thou this Parable
unto us,
or even to all?"

42. And the Lord Said,

"Who then is that faithful
and wise steward,
whom his lord
shall make ruler
over his household,
to give them
their portion of meat
in due season?
43. "Blessed is that Servant,
whom his lord when he cometh
shall find so doing.
44. Of a Truth I Say unto you,

'THAT HE WILL
MAKE HIM RULER
OVER ALL
THAT HE HATH.'


45. "But and if that servant
say in his heart

,'MY LORD DELAYETH
HIS COMING;'


and shall begin to beat
the menservants and maidens,
and to eat and drink,
and to be drunken;
46. "The lord of that servant
will come in a day
when he looketh not for him,
and at an hour
when he is not aware,
and will cut him in sunder,
and will appoint him
his portion
with the unbelievers.
47. "And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did
according to his will,
shall be beaten
with many stripes.
48. "But he that knew not,
and did commit things
worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten
with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever
much is given,
of him shall be
much required:
and to whom men
have committed much,
of him they will
ask the more."

FORTY-EIGHT GREAT SPIRITUAL COMMANDS BANDS MAKE UP THE WHOLE EARTH- FORTY RELATE TO "NON-LIVING" STRUCTURES IN THE EARTH, WHILE EIGHT RELATE TO LIVING THINGS.

Forty-Awareness Levels need to be momentarily accessed to attain GOD-LEVEL Control over the Earth.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE DYNAMICS AND TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

The Corporal Punishments are symbolic of more important Spiritual Truths.

To receive "stripes," as punishment, IS VERY, VERY, SERIOUS!

YACUB basically committed SUICIDE, and has taken MILLIONS of Christians into DAMNATION with him.

. JAMES 1:22-27.

22. But be ye
Doers of the Word,
and not Hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
23. For if any be
a Hearer of the Word,
and not a Doer,
he is like unto a man
beholding his natural face
in a glass:
24. For he beholdeth himself,
and goeth his way,
and straightway forgetteth
what manner of man he was.
25. But whoso looketh into
The Perfect Law of Liberty,
and continueth therein,
he being not
a Forgetful Hearer,
but a Doer of the Work,
this man shall be
Blessed in his Deed.
26. If any man among you
seem to be Religious,
and bridleth not his tongue,
but deceiveth his own heart,
this man's Religion is vain.
27. Pure Religion
and undefiled
before God and the Father
is this,

"TO VISIT
THE FATHERLESS
AND WIDOWS
IN THEIR AFFLICTION,
AND TO KEEP HIMSELF
UNSPOTTED FROM
THE WORLD."


This Hypocrite is whom you quote, trying to condemn ME, for telling you THE STRAIGHT TRUTH!

.   PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth
dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up deceit
within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not:
for (there are)
seven Abominations
in his heart.
26. (Whose) hatred is
covered by Deceit,
his Wickedness
shall be shewed
before the (whole) Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A lying tongue hateth
(those that are) afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth
worketh Ruin.

TELLING PEOPLE THE TRUTH OF THEIR SITUATION- [u]THAT IS LOVE!!![/u][i]

While begging people to please accept membership in their Church, and be Saved, claiming that GOD KNOWS THEM AND LOVES THEM, already, is [i]HATE.


[color =silver].[/color]  JOHN 14:15-27.

15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray the Father,
and he shall give you
another Comforter,
that he may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even the Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you Comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World seeth me
no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that day ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words,
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my sayings:
and The Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's Which sent me."
25. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
being (yet) present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
(Which is) The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in my Name,
He shall Teach you
all Things,
and bring to
your remembrance
all things whatsoever
I have said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

THE ONLY DEFINITION OF "LOVE" THAT MATTERS, IS THAT L WHICH LORD YESHUA USED, NAMELY- THE KEEPING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

Which include JUDGING SINNERS, as well as RECEIVING JUDGMENT where DUE.

Did you really expect Imperial Oyinbo Hypocrites, covering up their forefathers' Sins, to tell you The Truth?

[(2 of 2) Concluded.]
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 1:16pm On Mar 11, 2020
pressplay411:


Communication is an art and a science.
You need to learn that.
There's a skill to it.
It's pointless when you have important points but you lose the interest of your interlocutor (audience).
Try to keep your answers pithy and terse. The internet is too vast to expect people to spend time on one comment.
oaroloye, would you hear?

Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Gombs(m): 1:19pm On Mar 11, 2020
SalC:
Is this where frosbel has gotten to? I thought it was a joke when Gombs said you were about to discover oyel down there.

Dude knows he's off course, but to remain relevant, he make controversial topics! That said, he is entitled to his opinion...and like always, he's always wrong
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 3:20pm On Mar 11, 2020
MISHIGAS!

pressplay411:


Communication is an art and a science.
You need to learn that.
There's a skill to it.
It's pointless when you have important points but you lose the interest of your interlocutor (audience).
Try to keep your answers pithy and terse. The internet is too vast to expect people to spend time on one comment.

YOU ARE VERY STUPID, RUDE, AND COWARDLY TO HIDE BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS IDENTITY TO TELL A SERVANT OF GOD HOW TO PREACH!


. LUKE 12:1-12.

IN the mean time,
when there were gathered together
an innumerable multitude of people,
insomuch that they trode
one upon another,
he began to Say
unto his Disciples
first of all,

"Beware ye of the Leaven
of the Pharisees,
which is Hypocrisy.
2. "For there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed;
neither hid,
that shall not be known.
3. "Therefore whatsoever
ye have spoken in Darkness
shall be heard in the Light;
and that which ye have
spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed
upon the housetops.
4. "And I Say unto you
my Friends,

'BE NOT AFRAID OF THEM
THAT KILL THE BODY,
AND AFTER THAT
HAVE NO MORE
THAT THEY CAN DO.'


5. "But I will forewarn you
Whom ye shall fear:

'FEAR HIM,
WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED
HATH POWER
TO CAST INTO HELL;'


yea, I Say unto you,

'FEAR HIM.' "

6. "Are not five sparrows
sold for two farthings,
and not one of them
is forgotten before God?
7. "But even the very
hairs of your head
are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value
than many sparrows.
8. "Also I Say unto you,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL
CONFESS ME
BEFORE MEN,
HIM SHALL THE SON OF MAN
ALSO CONFESS BEFORE
THE ANGELS OF GOD:
9. 'BUT HE THAT DENIETH ME
BEFORE MEN
SHALL BE DENIED BEFORE
THE ANGELS OF GOD.'


10. "And whosoever
shall speak a word
against the Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but unto him that blasphemeth
against The Holy Ghost
it shall not be forgiven.
11. "And when they bring you
unto the synagogues,
and unto magistrates,
and powers,
take ye no thought
how or what thing
ye shall answer,
or what ye shall say:
12. "For The Holy Ghost
shall Teach you
in the same hour
what ye ought to say."

HOW CAN YOU BE A BELIEVER IN GOD, WHEN YOU DO NOT EVEN MENTION HIS SON?

Who sent you to come and revile my Ministry?

You are not a Christian, otherwise, you would have confessed the Lord Yeshua.

. JOHN 6:35-63.

35. And Jesus Said unto them,

“I am The Bread of Life.
He that cometh to me
shall never Hunger,
and he that believeth in me
shall never Thirst.
36. "But I said unto you
that ye also have seen me,
and believe not.
37. "All that The Father giveth me
shall come to me,
and him that cometh to me
I will in no wise cast out.
38. "For I came down from Heaven,
not to do Mine own will,
but The Will of Him that sent me.
39. "And this is The Father’s Will
Who hath sent Me,

'THAT OF ALL WHICH
HE HATH GIVEN ME
I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING,
BUT SHOULD RAISE IT UP AGAIN
AT THE LAST DAY.'


40. "And this is The Will
of Him that sent me:

'THAT EVERY ONE
WHO SEETH THE SON
AND BELIEVETH IN HIM
MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE,
AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP
AT THE LAST DAY.' "


41. The Jews then murmured at Him,
because he Said,

“I AM THE BREAD
WHICH CAME DOWN
FROM HEAVEN.”


42. And they said,

“Is not this Jesus,
the son of Joseph,
whose father and mother
we know?
How is it then that he Saith,

‘I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?' "

43. Jesus therefore answered
and Said unto them,

“Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to me
unless The Father
Who hath sent me draw him;
and I will raise him up
at The Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets:

‘AND THEY SHALL BE
ALL TAUGHT BY GOD.’


Every man therefore
that hath heard and hath learned
From The Father
cometh unto me.
46. "Not that any man
hath seen The Father,
save he that is of God;
he hath seen The Father.
47. "Verily, verily I Say unto you,

'HE THAT
BELIEVETH ON ME
HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.'


48. "I am that Bread of Life.
49. "Your fathers ate manna
in the Wilderness,
and are dead.
50. "This is the Bread
Which cometh down from Heaven,
that a man may eat thereof
and not die.
51. "I am The Living Bread
Which came down from Heaven.
If any man eat of this Bread,
he shall live for ever;
and The Bread that I will give
is My flesh,
which I will give
for the Life of the World.”

52. The Jews therefore
strove among themselves,
saying,

“How can this man
give us his flesh to eat?”

53 Then Jesus Said unto them,

“Verily, verily I Say unto you,

'UNLESS YE EAT THE FLESH
OF THE SON OF MAN,
AND DRINK HIS BLOOD,
YE HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU.'


54. "Whoso eateth my flesh
and drinketh my blood
hath Eternal Life,
and I will raise him up
at the Last Day.
55. "For my flesh is Meat indeed,
and my blood is Drink indeed.
56. "He that eateth my flesh
and drinketh My blood
dwelleth in Me,
and I in him.
57. "As The Living Father
hath sent me,
and I live by The Father,
so he that eateth Me,
even he shall live by Me.
58. "This is that Bread
Which came down
from Heaven,
not as your fathers
ate manna
and are dead;
he that eateth of this Bread
shall live for ever.”

59. These things said he
in the Synagogue
as He taught in Capernaum.
60. Many of His Disciples therefore,
when they had heard this,
said,

“This is a hard saying;
who can hear it?”

61. When Jesus knew in himself
that his Disciples murmured at it,
he Said unto them,

“Doth this offend you?
62. "What if ye shall see
The Son of Man ascend up
where He was before?
63. "It is the Spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing.
The Words that I Speak
unto you,
they are spirit,
and they are life."

DUNCES ASK OTHER DUNCES TO EXPLAIN DIVINE WISDOM- WHEN THEY CANNOT, THEY DECIDE AMONG THEMSELVES THAT IT IS NONSENSE!

Only those who can HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD can understand my Posts.

Do you know how to HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD?

Of course not! Who would teach YOU? But I have taught you: it is very simple:

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THAT IS HOW TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD: BY KEEPING THAT ONE COMMANDMENT.

You did not know that.

No one else ever told you that before.

Is this not THE MOST VALUABLE INFORMATION that you EVER heard in your LIFE?

Those who have been going to "Churches" for THIRTY, FIFTY, SEVENTY YEARS have NEVER heard that before.

Has ANYONE thanked me for bringing them that news?

NO! Even because NO ONE HERE wanted to know that!


. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came
into the coasts of
Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples,
Saying,

"Whom do men say that I
The Son of Man am?"

14. And they said,

"Some say that thou
art John the Baptist:
some, Elias;
and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."

15. He Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye
that I am?"

16. And Simon Peter
answered and said,

"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."

17. And Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"Blessed art thou,
Simon Barjona:
for Flesh and Blood hath not
Revealed It unto thee,
but my Father
Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I Say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL IT.'


19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of
The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."

20. Then charged he
his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

NONE OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE YESHUA IS THE CHRIST BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD THEM IS SAVED.

That is NOT how one learns that Lord Yeshua is the HaMishiach. It must come to you FROM GOD.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to him
for to shew him the Buildings
of The Temple.
2. And Jesus Said unto them,

"See ye not all these things?
Verily I Say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT
BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER
THAT SHALL NOT BE
THROWN DOWN.'


3. And as he sat upon
the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came
unto him privately,
saying,

"Tell us,
when shall these things be?
And what shall be
The Sign of thy Coming,
and of The End of the World?"

4. And Jesus answered
and Said unto them,

"Take heed
that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come
in my Name,
saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many."

ALL WHO TEACH MEN THAT YESHUA IS THE MESSIAH ARE ALL DECEIVERS- WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

I don't care what they want to hear from me, nor what they think about my Messages: THEY ARE WORTHLESS TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

What use is a Soldier who cannot hear The Commander's Voice?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 3:56pm On Mar 11, 2020
oaroloye:

I don't care what they want to hear from me, nor what they think about my Messages: THEY ARE WORTHLESS TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

What use is a Soldier who cannot hear The Commander's Voice?
So says the commander and gatekeeper to God's Kingdom.

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 4:03pm On Mar 11, 2020
But you just insult them and never listen!

https://twitter.com/oaroloye/status/853230782160261122?s=19

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by pressplay411(m): 7:48pm On Mar 11, 2020
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

YOU ARE VERY STUPID, RUDE, AND COWARDLY TO HIDE BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS IDENTITY TO TELL A SERVANT OF GOD HOW TO PREACH!

I don't care what they want to hear from me, nor what they think about my Messages: THEY ARE WORTHLESS TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

What use is a Soldier who cannot hear The Commander's Voice?

I have 3 scriptures for you;

Matthew 5:22
James 1:19-20
1 Timothy 3:1-7

Thank me later.

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 6:20am On Mar 12, 2020
MISHIGAS!

frosbel2:


I would like to state a few reasons why I think Jesus cannot save you. These reasons are based on hard facts , experience and what I see happening in Nigeria on a daily basis.

. LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

EVERY DAY IS FOR THE BLASPHEMOUS- BUT ONE DAY IS FOR THE JUDGMENT OF GOD!

You can say whatever you want, now, but one day you will have to face The Judgment for it.

(1) BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST IS THE MOST FOOLISH THING A HUMAN BEING CAN DO WITH THEIR MOUTH- AND I KNOW ABOUT OYINBOS REQUESTING SEX WITH ANIMALS!

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot defeat Boko Haram
Despite pastors cursing Boko Haram on a daily basis, and despite all the prayers to Jesus, Boko Haram is still a pain in our back side.

. LUKE 10:1-16.

.    JOHN 8:28-36.

(2) THE EASIEST SOLUTION TO BOKO HARAM TERRORISM, IS FOR THE TARGETS TO DEPART THEIR TERRITORY- IN OBEDIENCE OF LORD YESHUA'S COMMANDMENTS!

(3) FREEDOM FROM BOKO HARAM, AND OTHER THINGS CAN ONLY COME FROM ACTUALLY OBEYING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

(4) ALL PASTORS ARE FALSE CHRISTIANS.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

(5) ALL WHO TEACH MEN THAT LORD YESHUA IS THE CHRIST ARE DECEIVERS- WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

(6) THOSE WHO BELIEVE LORD YESHUA IS THE CHRIST, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD THEM ARE NOT SAVED.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot bring you peace
Despite the promise of peace, many Christians suffer from stress, high blood pressure and anxiety. Sorry, Jesus cannot bring you peace. If you want peace, live within your means, live a contented life, avoid a quarrelsome existence and, operate by the well known mantra - live and let live.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.


(7) THE ONLY GUARANTEE OF MENTAL STABILITY IS KEEPING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

(cool ALL STRESS IS CAUSED BY DISOBEDIENCE OF THIS SPECIFIC SCRIPTURE- TO ALTRUISTICALLY LOVE AND PRAY FOR ONE'S PERCEIVED ENEMIES.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot heal the sick
Our hospitals are overwhelmed with the sick despite the large population of born again believers. Even though healing is prominently promised in the bible, the sick are not getting healed by Jesus, they are getting healed by medicine and doctors.

(9) I KNOW THIS TO BE A LIE BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED DIVINE HEALING- I AM ALIVE TODAY, ONLY BECAUSE OF DIVINE HEALING.

. REVELATION 9:20-21.

(10) THE BIBLE CALLS PHARMACEUTICALS "SORCERY;" SORCERERS ARE DESTINED TO BE DAMNED.

(11) WESTERN MEDICINE IS BASED ON GREEK PAGAN RELIGION: SPECIFICALLY, THE WORSHIP OF THE GOD APOLLO AND HIS FAMILY; IT IS THEREFORE THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS TO EXPECT THE TRUE YAHWEH GOD TO HEAL FALSE GOD APOLLO'S PATIENTS!

[(1 of 2) To be Concluded.]

[(2 of 2) Concluding:]

(11) CHRISTIANS WHO SERIOUSLY SEEK HEALING FROM LORD YESHUA, ENDURING HARDSHIP TO FIND IT, ALWAYS OBTAIN IT.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot make you rich
95% of people who pay tithes are broke, despite the bible promising a bountiful harverst. Jesus is not a money multiplier, he cannot make you rich. You gotta work hard bro and sis.

(12) FINANCIAL PROSPERITY IS OBTAINABLE THROUGH THE GOSPEL- PROVIDED ONE IS WILLING TO BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONTROLLING RICHES.

. MATTHEW 6:19-24.

(13) THE GOSPEL IS NOT ABOUT ACCUMULATING A MOUNTAIN OF USELESS CASH- THAT IS CALLED "COVETOUSNESS!"

(14) LORD YESHUA WARNED THAT CHRISTIANS WHO SEEK RICHES OVER THE WAY OF LORD YESHUA WOULD BECOME DEEPLY EVIL.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-46.)

(15) EVERY ONE OF THE TEN TALENTS HAS THE POTENTIAL OF GENERATING RICHES.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot bring overwhelming righteousness to Nigeria
The bible says that when the light shines , the darkness is driven out. In Nigeria it appears that the darkness is driving out the light despite the millions and millions of born again believers. It's either 99% of the believers in Nigeria are fake or Jesus is fake. Irrespective, Jesus followers and their master are not increasing righteousness in Nigeria.

(16) THE GOSPEL CAN ONLY DISPEL DARKNESS WHEN IT IT IS APPLIED.

(17) THE GOSPEL HAS BEEN USED TO HALT EVIL WITHOUT THE COOPERATION OF THE EVILDOERS- THIS RESULTED IN THOSE NATIONS BECOMING EVEN WORSE.

frosbel2:


Jesus cannot make you overcome sin

Oh please dont make me laugh. Christians in Nigeria are unable to overcome sin , thats for sure. They lie, cheat, steal, fornicate, bribe, receive bribes, bear false witness, sleep with the wives/husbands of other people, hate anyone who is not part of their church talk less of Christianity as a whole and humanity in general.......

(18) THE OP PRETENDS ABYSMAL IGNORANCE OF THE EFFICACY OF THE GOSPEL IN CURBING EVERY TYPE OF SIN, WHEN IT IS APPLIED.

.    MATTHEW 18:1-9.

(19) LORD YESHUA COMMANDED THAT HIS FOLLOWERS PERSONALLY AMPUTATE ANY PART OF THEIR BODY USED TO COMMIT UNCONTROLLABLE SIN- IF THIS IS NOT DONE, YESHUA HAS NOT BEEN APPLIED- THE ATTAINMENT OF THE WILLINESS TO DO THIS FOR LORD YESHUA IMMEDIATELY OVERCOMES THE WILLINGNESS TO SIN.

(20) THE ANCIENT AUTHORITY ON BIBLICAL CANONITY CASTRATED HIMSELF TO BE MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN OTHER CHRISTIANS- PASTOR KENNEDY ACHEAMPONG (60) OF GHANA RECENTLY PERFORMED THE SAME ACT ON HIMSELF.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

. MATTHEW 17:14-21.

(21) UNCONTROLLABLE SINFULNESS IS POWERED BY CARBOHYDRATE METABOLISM- FASTING AS LORD YESHUA TAUGHT ENABLES ONE TO COMPLETELY OVERCOME EVERY POSSIBLE SIN ONE WANTS.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot make the blind see or deaf hear
No need for examples here, even Christians know this is true; and yet Jesus told his followers that they will make the blind see and deaf hear. Another lie ??

(22) EVERY BIBLICAL HEALING HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED IN THE 20[][] CENTURY CHRISTIAN REVIVAL- THE OP IS DELIBERATELY LYING- WELL-KNOWN CHRISTIAN MINISTERS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO HEAL IN MODERN TIMES:

SMITH WIGGLESWORTH.
KENNETH E. HAGIN.
FRANKLIN HALL.
T.L. OSBORN.
A.A ALLEN.
WILLIAM BRANHAM.
ORAL ROBERTS.
KENNETH COPELAND.
RAY MacCAULEY.
REINHARD BONNKE.

TEN examples were named and ignored.

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot raise the dead
As a former Christian in some of the staunchest cultic sects, I have never seen a dead body raised from the dead. Its either Jesus lied, or Christians are doing it wrong.

(23) IT IS STUPID TO DENY THAT THE NAME OF JESUS HAS RAISED MANY PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD IN RECENT TIMES.

Lady raised from the Dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAZKTtY3D8

Boy raised from the Dead after 24 hours.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyO7QWYeFTE

Man raised- Pakistan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr87oNY6TA

Woman dead for 7 days Raised by Timothy Omotoso.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrbIXBkD4o

frosbel2:

Jesus cannot drive out demons
So many mad people and mentally challenged individuals in Nigeria and Christians are unable to cast out their demons and restore them to sanity.

(24) IT IS STUPID TO DENY THAT THE NAME OF JESUS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY USED IN MODERN TIMED TO CAST OUT DEVILS, AND RESTORE SANITY.

.   MATTHEW 12:41-45.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

b]'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'
[/b

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

(25) HEALING THE INSANE WHO DO NOT PERSONALLY DESIRE TO SERVE LORD YESHUA INVARIABLY MAKES THEM WORSE.

frosbel2:

Jesus is not coming back
His disciples expected him to come back in their life time to no avail. Its now over 2000 years and Jesus is still not here. Oh please, stop deceiving yourselves, he aint coming back.

(25) LORD YESHUA EXPLICITLY STATED WHEN HE WOULD RETURN- WHEN HIS SO-CALLED DISCIPLES FALSELY PREDICTED HIS RETURN IS IRRELEVANT.

.   MATTHEW 24:14.

.    MATTHEW 24:33-35.

(26) LORD YESHUA SAID THAT HE WOULD RETURN SOON AFTER ALL THE SIGNS OF MATTHEW 24 CAME TO PASS AT THE SAME TIME!

That has NEVER happened before!

(27) LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES REFUSED TO TEACH THE WORLD "ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER" HE HAD COMMANDED THEM TO OBSERVE.

THAT was THE Key Requirement.

It has NEVER been fulfilled.

[(2 of 2) Concluded.]

. LEVITICUS 11:1-12.

AND The LORD Spoke unto Moses
and to Aaron,
Saying unto them,

2. “Speak unto
the Children of Israel,
saying,

'THESE ARE THE BEASTS
WHICH YE SHALL EAT
AMONG ALL THE BEASTS
THAT ARE ON THE EARTH.'


3. "Whatsoever parteth the hoof
and is cloven-footed
and cheweth the cud
among the Beasts,
that shall ye eat.

4. "Nevertheless these
shall ye not eat,
of those that chew the cud
or of those that
divide the hoof:
the camel,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
5. "And the coney,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
6. "And the hare,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
7. "And the swine,
though he divide the hoof
and is cloven-footed,
yet he cheweth not the cud,
he is unclean to you.
8. "Of their flesh shall ye not eat,
and their carcass shall ye not touch;
they are unclean to you."

9. "These shall ye eat
of all that are in the waters:
whatsoever hath fins and scales
in the waters,
in the seas,
and in the rivers,
them shall ye eat.
10. "And all that have not
fins and scales
in the seas,
and in the rivers,
of all that move in the waters,
and of any living thing
which is in the waters,
they shall be
an abomination unto you:
11. "They shall be
even an abomination unto you;
ye shall not eat of their flesh,
but ye shall have
their carcases in abomination.

12. "Whatsoever hath
no fins nor scales
in the waters,
that shall be
an abomination unto you."

WITHOUT MEDITATION, "GOOD SUCCESS," IN THE WORSHIP OF GOD, IS NOT POSSIBLE.

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. MATTHEW 13:47-48.

47. "Again, the Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a net,
that was cast into the sea,
and gathered of every kind:
48. "Which, when it was full,
they drew to shore,
and sat down,
and gathered the good into vessels,
but cast the bad away."

THE WICKED AND GREEDY, WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO EAT ANYTHING THEY CAN FIT INTO THAT THEIR MOUTHS, NEVER LEARN DISCERNMENT.

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: The sane and intelligent ability to perceive the differences between things that are similar.

3. ASSOCATION: The sane and intelligent ability to perceive the similarities between things that are different.

2. IDENTIFICATION: The insane and stupid inability to perceive the similarities between things that are similar.

1. DISSOCIATION: The insane and stupid inability to perceive the similarities between things that are similar.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

maximus99:


Your Church taught you and my Church taught me, you'll continue to quote while i'll also continue to quote, so if you're not stupid you should know that only God can declare the one who is right!

YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL FOOLS, UNABLE TO DISCERN BETWEEN TRUTH AND ERROR, BECAUSE YOU EAT "UNCLEAN MEATS."

You cannot know which Scriptures are relevant and important, and which are irrelevant and unimportant, because you do not physically-apply any of them.

oaroloye:

ATHEISM IS AN ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER!

You pretended that my Scriptural Quotations did not answer your every point, as well as my painstaking explanations that overestimated your Intelligence Quotient.

frosbel2:


No time for your gibberish.

Besides I am not atheist, lol.

budaatum:

Lol!

I do wonder who reads him
Seems he talks more than he actually reads!

PEOPLE WHO WANT THE POWER OF GOD SHOULD BE READING ME!

Only those who do not want It should despise my Messages.

THOSE WHO DO NOT MEDITATE ON THE LAW OF YAHWEH GOD CAN NEVER ATTAIN GOOD SUCCESS.

. LUKE 8:9-18.

9. And his Disciples asked him,
saying,

"What might this Parable be?"

10. And he Said,

"Unto you it is given to know
The Mysteries of The Kingdom of God:
but to others in Parables;
that seeing they might not see,
and hearing they might not understand.
11. "Now the Parable is this:

'THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD.
12. 'THOSE BY THE WAY SIDE
ARE THEY THAT HEAR;
THEN COMETH THE DEVIL,
AND TAKETH AWAY THE WORD
OUT OF THEIR HEARTS,
LEST THEY SHOULD BELIEVE
AND BE SAVED.

12. 'THEY ON THE ROCK
ARE THEY, WHICH,
WHEN THEY HEAR;
RECEIVE THE WORD WITH JOY;
AND THESE HAVE NO ROOT,
WHICH FOR A WHILE BELIEVE,
AND IN TIME OF TEMPTATION
FALL AWAY.

14. 'AND THAT WHICH
FELL AMONG THORNS
ARE THEY, WHICH,
WHEN THEY HAVE HEARD,
GO FORTH,
AND ARE CHOKED
WITH CARES AND RICHES
AND PLEASURES OF THIS LIFE,
AND BRING NO FRUIT
TO PERFECTION.

15. 'BUT THAT
ON THE GOOD GROUND
ARE THEY,
WHICH IN AN HONEST
AND GOOD HEART,
HAVING HEARD THE WORD,
KEEP (IT),
AND BRING FORTH FRUIT
WITH PATIENCE.'


16. "No man,
when he hath lighted a candle,
covereth it with a vessel,
or putteth it under a bed;
but setteth it on a candlestick,
that they which enter in
may see the light.
17. "For nothing is secret,
that shall not be made manifest;
neither any thing hid,
that shall not be known
and come abroad.
18. "Take heed therefore
how ye hear:
for whosoever hath,
to him shall be given;
and whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken
even that which he
seemeth to have."

19. Then came to him
his mother and his brethren,
and could not come at him
for the press.
20. And it was told him
by certain which said,

"Thy mother and thy brethren
stand without,
desiring to see thee."

21. And he answered
and said unto them,

"My Mother and my Brethren
are these which hear
The Word of God,
and do It."

YOU LOVE THE CARES OF THIS LIFE- YOU WANT INFORMATION TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU LIKE THE WORLDLY DECEIVERS YOU LOVE DO- YOU LOVE THE RICHES OF THIS LIFE, AND DESPISE LORD YESHUA BECAUSE YOU DO NOT VALUE HIS GODLY RICHES, BUT RATHER MONEY[/i] YOU LOVE THE PLEASURES OF THIS LIFE- INCLUDING DISRESPECTING YOUR SENIORS- INCLUDING THOSE WHO SACRIFICED TO ENABLE YOU HAVE A BETTER LIFE.

This is why you cannot see The Kingdom of God, nor bring ANY Fruit to maturity.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

ARE YOU NOT NOW GOING TO IGNORE THE BEAMS IN YOUR EYES, TRAMPLE DOWN THE PEARLS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND CONTINUE ATTACKING ME, FOR NO JUST CAUSE?

. EXODUS 23:1-9.

"THOU shalt not
raise a False Report:
put not thine hand
with The Wicked
to be an Unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not
follow a Multitude
to do Evil;
neither shalt thou
speak in a cause
to Decline after Many
to Wrest (Judgment):
3. "Neither shalt thou
countenance a poor man
in his cause.
4. "If thou meet
thine Enemy's ox
or his ass going astray,
thou shalt surely
bring it back to him again.
5. " If thou see
the ox or the ass
of him that hateth thee
lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear
to help him,
thou shalt surely
help with him.
6. "Thou shalt not wrest
the judgment of thy poor
in his cause.
7. "Keep thee far
from a false matter;
and the Innocent
and Righteous
Slay thou not:
for I will not
Justify The Wicked.
8. "And thou shalt
take no Gift:
for the Gift to
blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the Words
of The Righteous.
9. "Thou shalt not
Oppress a Stranger:
for ye know
the heart of a Stranger,
seeing ye were Strangers
in the land of Egypt."

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

ALL OF MY ATTACKERS ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE, SERVING THE SAME OYINBO "MASSA."

My Tweet was written in 2017- and BUDA ATUM and MAXIMUS both replied it yesterday, proving that they are both working together.

Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by frank317: 7:17am On Mar 12, 2020
Which kain wahala be this

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 8:13am On Mar 12, 2020
MISHIGAS!

pressplay411:


Communication is an art and a science.
You need to learn that.
There's a skill to it.
It's pointless when you have important points but you lose the interest of your interlocutor (audience).
Try to keep your answers pithy and terse. The internet is too vast to expect people to spend time on one comment.

budaatum:

oaroloye, would you hear?

WHY SHOULD I?

Is it not rude to tell people how to practice their Religion, without telling them who you are, and what God, god, Devil, or Philosopher you yourself serve?

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"


3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.

ARE YOU PRETENDING UNAWARENESS OF THE EXPLICIT COMMANDMENTS AGAINST MODIFYING GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS AND SERVING FALSE GODS?

. JOHN 6:35-47.

35. And Jesus Said unto them,

“I am The Bread of Life.
He that cometh to me
shall never Hunger,
and he that believeth in me
shall never Thirst.
36. "But I said unto you
that ye also have seen me,
and believe not.
37. "All that The Father giveth me
shall come to me,
and him that cometh to me
I will in no wise cast out.
38. "For I came down from Heaven,
not to do Mine own will,
but The Will of Him that sent me.
39. "And this is The Father’s Will
Who hath sent Me,

'THAT OF ALL WHICH
HE HATH GIVEN ME
I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING,
BUT SHOULD RAISE IT UP AGAIN
AT THE LAST DAY.'


40. "And this is The Will
of Him that sent me:

'THAT EVERY ONE
WHO SEETH THE SON
AND BELIEVETH IN HIM
MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE,
AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP
AT THE LAST DAY.' "


41. The Jews then murmured at Him,
because he Said,

“I AM THE BREAD
WHICH CAME DOWN
FROM HEAVEN.”


42. And they said,

“Is not this Jesus,
the son of Joseph,
whose father and mother
we know?
How is it then that he Saith,

‘I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?' "

43. Jesus therefore answered
and Said unto them,

“Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to me
unless The Father
Who hath sent me draw him;
and I will raise him up
at The Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets:

‘AND THEY SHALL BE
ALL TAUGHT BY GOD.’


Every man therefore
that hath heard and hath learned
From The Father
cometh unto me.
46. "Not that any man
hath seen The Father,
save he that is of God;
he hath seen The Father.
47. "Verily, verily I Say unto you,

'HE THAT
BELIEVETH ON ME
HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.'


When you insult ME, you insult MY LORD AND MASTER also.

Are you saying that Lord Yeshua did not know how to communicate?

THE GOSPEL IS ONLY FOR THOSE WHO CAN HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD.

Only those who learn of Lord Yeshua's Importance from HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD: THE FATHER can come to him.

Cleverness or Stupidity of Speech is irrelevant. Only THE VOICE OF GOD is relevant.

Only ONE type of person can learn to hear The Voice of God:

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT DOING THINGS THE WAY YOU LIKE AND WANT HAS NOT ENABLED YOU TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD.

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

THEN came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,

2. "Why do thy Disciples
transgress the Tradition
of the Elders?
For they wash not
their hands when
they eat bread."

3. But he answered
and Said unto them,

"Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God
by your Tradition?
4. "For God Commanded,
Saying,

'HONOUR THY FATHER
AND MOTHER:
AND, HE THAT CURSETH
FATHER OR MOTHER
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'


5. "But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,


"IT IS A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"


6. 'AND HONOUR NOT
HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'


Thus have ye made
The Commandment of God
of none effect
by your Tradition.
7. "Ye Hypocrites,
well did Esaias
Prophesy of you,
saying,

8. 'THIS PEOPLE
DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN
THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS
OF MEN.' "


10. And he called the multitude,
and Said unto them,

"Hear, and understand:
11. "Not that which goeth
into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh
out of the mouth,
this defileth a man."

12. Then came his Disciples,
and Said unto him,

"Knowest thou that
the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

15. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Declare unto us this Parable."

16. And Jesus Said,

"Are ye also yet
without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out
into the draught?
18. "But those things
which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Murders, Adulteries,
Fornications, Thefts,
False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with
unwashen hands
defileth not a man."

GOD HAS NOT RECOGNIZED YOUR TRADITION- THAT IS HOW YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT IT IS EVIL.

I serve The Holy God of The Righteous: nothing comes out of your mouths, but UNJUSTNESS and FILTHINESS.

How can changing how I speak change that? Addressing you the way you want will never change you. You will continue to Hate God, His Servants and His Children, and Love Satan, his Servants and his Children.

My goal is to show you what you need to know to know that LORD YESHUA BOTH SAVES AND HEALS, and OBTAIN SALVATION and HEALING for yourselves.


. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "


. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

YOUR GOAL IS TO RESIST THE ATTAINMENT OF SUCH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, BY YOURSELVES, AND BY OTHERS.

If you wanted SALVATION or HEALING for yourselves or others, your attitudes would be very different. You would not care how long my Posts were, nor how many Scriptures I quote, if your priority were to achieve SALVATION and DIVINE HEALING.

You would have FEAR OF YAHWEH GOD, and RESPECT for ME.

. MATTHEW 13:1-23.

THE same day went Jesus out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes
were gathered together
unto him,
so that he went into a ship,
and sat;
and the whole multitude
stood on the shore.
3. And he Spake many things
unto them in Parables,
Saying,

"Behold, a sower
went forth to sow;
4. "And when he sowed,
some seeds
fell by the way side,
and the fowls came
and devoured them up:
5. "Some fell
upon stony places,
where they had
not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up,
because they had
no deepness of earth:
6. "And when
the Sun was up,
they were scorched;
and because they had
no root,
they withered away.
7. "And some fell
among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up,
and choked them:
8. "But other fell
into good ground,
and brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold,
some sixtyfold,
some thirtyfold.
9. "Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

10. And the Disciples came,
and said unto him,

"Why speakest thou
unto them in Parables?"

11. He answered and Said
unto them,

"Because it is given unto you
to know The Mysteries
of The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him shall be given,
and he shall have
more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore Speak I
to them in Parables:

'BECAUSE THEY SEEING
SEE NOT;
AND HEARING
THEY HEAR NOT,
NEITHER DO THEY
UNDERSTAND.'


14. "And in them is fulfilled
the Prophecy of Esaias,
which saith,

'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART
IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS
ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES
THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed
are your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS
AND RIGHTEOUS MEN
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'


18. "Hear ye therefore
The Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH
THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS
SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH
RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.

20. 'BUT HE THAT
RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT
ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.

22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED
SEED AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.

23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT;
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD,
SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' "


There are four discrete classes of HEARERS OF THE WORD OF GOD- because there are four classes of PEOPLE.

. REVELATION 22:11-12.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still.
12. "And, behold,
I come quickly;
and my Reward is with me,
to give every man According
as his Work shall be."

WHAT CLASS ONE IS IN IS DETERMINED BY THE RATIO OF SINFULNESS/RIGHTEOUSNESS ONE HAS.

Our NATURAL Classification is determined by the mean of the Spiritual Energy levels of our parents, at the time they conceived us. This is difficult to change, but it can be done, with sufficient discipline/indiscipline.

These Classifications are separately labelled: DOGS, PIGS, GOATS, and SHEEP.

No one can be made to understand the Knowledge that pertains to THOSE ABOVE THEIR LEVEL.

No amount of EXPLANATION can make an OSTRICH understand like a HORSE.

So also, DOGS cannot understand what is obvious to PIGS, but Pigs cannot IMPLEMENT what they BELIEVED INSTANTLY like GOATS can, whereas the Goats cannot obtain the EFFORTLESS Results of the SHEEP.

No amount of EXPLANATION can change your level without RECEPTION or LOSS of Spiritual Energy.

Spiritual Energy is gained by KEEPING GOD'S COMMANDMENTS, and is LOST by SIN- which is the BREAKING and IGNORING of God's Commandments.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 8:55am On Mar 12, 2020
frank317:
Which kain wahala be this

It's not wahala nah, sebi you want to argue! cheesy

Someone is here to spend time with you in argument, are you now calling it wahala? cheesy

No! No!! No!!! My friend, you must welcome everyone willing to spend time with you! cheesy

I told you guys that the one and only group doing justice to this heart to heart discuss globally are Jehovah's Witnesses!

They will come to your house and sit down comfortably with you to discuss face to face, so that you can SEE the FACE of the person talking, but you guys are saying that doesn't make sense enough.

Now you've got someone who is ready to waste the whole day typing gibberish in an attempt to chat with you, you're now calling it WAHALA! cheesy

My friend, be warned o! angry

Come on face your warrant and continue arguing facelessly as you have chosen.

Do you think a normal person will come all the way from his home (as directed by Jesus) only to start talking and talking without making any reasonable point like this your aoroloye friend?

Well you asked for it, so face it! cheesy

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 11:16am On Mar 12, 2020
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!


You can say whatever you want, now, but one day you will have to face The Judgment for it.



Do you really think I have time to read the incoherent nonsense you keep typing.

Begone, brainwashed religious fanatic !!

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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 8:49am On Mar 13, 2020
MISHIGAS!

lepasharon:

Savage! I just love this. Kill them with the facts.

Religion is all about selling dreams and offering false hope.

All religion does is sell dream!

IF THAT WAS ALL RELIGION DID, IT WOULD BE ENOUGH!

However, Religion can do much more than "SELL DREAMS."

oaroloye:


THERE ARE EIGHT CENTRES OF POWER IN THE HUMAN SOUL.

1. FEELING; 2. REASON; 3. TALKING;
4. WILL; 4. DREAMING; 5. SEEING; 7. THE TONAL; 8. THE NAGUAL.

[See: TALES OF POWER, by Carlos Castaneda.]

This evaluation is from NATIVE AMERICAN MYSTICISM, but it applies to every Religion.

1. FEELING: Intuitive Knowledge without Sensory Evidence.

2. REASON: Step-by-Step sequential acquisition of Knowledge.

3. TALKING: Knowledge acquired and communicated through agreed-upon symbolic representation of sense data.

4. WILL: As in Willpower. Ability to Create Effects by Deciding to.

5. DREAMING: The Ability to Create, Receive, or Enter a Subjective Reality through the Mind, not perceptible to "ordinary" persons.

6. *SEEING:*[u] The Ultimate Expression of EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
Ancient Prophets are depicted as entering the Spiritual Realm, or having Visions- then asking ignorant questions about what they saw.

With *seeing,* a Voice- the Voice of *Seeing* explains everything that is *seen.*

[u]7. THE TONAL:
The Entirety of things we accept as Real and Relevant to us, at any given time.

8. THE NAGUAL: An inexhaustible wellspring of Spiritual Power within us, capable of issuing Guidance and Judgment- to SAVE us, or KILL us- which we can not actually control- only learn to live with.

DREAMING IS A NATURAL AVENUE OF SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT.

DREAMING is a Simulator of Reality/Unreality to the SPIRITUALLY IGNORANT. To the Spiritual, however, Dreams are so very much more.

DREAMS CAN BE CONTROLLED.

The first recorded Master of Dreaming in The Bible was YOSEF bar YACUB.

He was able to predict the Future in his Dreams.

His jealous brethren sold him into Slavery to prevent his prediction of dominion over his entire family from coming to pass.

The Life of Yosef is simplest explained by that HE WAS A MASTER DREAMER, AND USED DREAMING TO KNOW AND CONTROL THE FUTURE.

He did not succumb to the Potiaphar's wife, because Dreaming had shown him the end of that Path.

He allowed himself to be enslaved, framed, and jailed, because these were necessary steps in the process of his becoming Prime Minister of KEMET, and Subordinating his parents and brethren, to save their lives.

That he was the only one who could interpret Pharaoh's Dream is explainable by the possibility that it was HIS Dream, the whole time, and he TRANSMITTED it to him.

DANIEL was the second named MASTER DREAMER. He was able to interpret NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S Dream, possibly because HE had TRANSMITTED It to him in the first place.

His superiority over the other "Wise Guys," Magicians, and Astrologers, manifested by his ability to interpret The Angelic Writing on the wall, is consistent with being a MASTER DREAMER.

YOSEF bar YACUB, the betrothed of MARY is the third named MASTER DREAMER- sharing the same name as the first Master of Dreaming, he knew to take Dreams seriously.

YAHWEH GOD spoke to him in a Dream, and assured him that Mary was not an Adulteress.

He was warned of danger in other Dreams, and could have had others we are not told about, that enabled him to keep Yeshua and his mother safe.

AFRICANS HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THE IMPORTANCE OF DREAMS- BUT THE FOREFATHERS OF THESE ATHEISTS' OYINBO MASSAS SPENT CENTURIES MURDERING ANYONE WHO SHOWED SUCH POTENTIAL!

Therefore, Oyinbo Organized Christianity does not teach HOW TO CONTROL DREAMS.

DEVELOPED DREAMING CAN CONTROL PHYSICAL REALITY- BECAUSE DREAMS CAN BE MORE REAL THAN THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE.

The Miracle Healings and other Miracles of Lord Yeshua- including RAISING THE DEAD, are consistent with CONTROLLED DREAMING.

The first step toward becoming a Master Dreamer is to become a LUCID DREAMER. A LUCID DREAMER is someone who is conscious while Dreaming, and KNOWS the whole time that they are Dreaming.

This is accomplished by simply willing to do something while Dreaming- for instance, to look at one's hands.

That act coheres the DREAMING BODY.

There are six more "GATES" one must pass through, to become a MASTER DREAMER. These include being able to MANIFEST one's DREAMING BODY in the PHYSICAL WORLD, and use It to enter OTHER REALMS, including HEAVEN, HELL, and OTHER PEOPLE'S DREAMS.

I do not hide my Sources, and create Mysteries.

You can learn about HOW TO CONTROL DREAMING from CARLOS CASTENEDA and JAMES REDFIELD.

[See: THE ART OF DREAMING, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

People with manners thank people who bring them information- especially when it is THIS crucial.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

THE FUNDAMENTAL OYINBO ECONOMIC/POLITICAL/MILITARY TACTIC IS "DIVIDE & CONQUER:" THEREFORE THE OYINBOS HAVE TAUGHT THE SUPPOSED CHRISTIANS HERE HOW TO DIVIDE THEMSELVES FROM ME, WITH UNRIGHTEOUS AND FOOLISH JUDGMENTS, SO THAT THEY HATE ME, FOR TELLING THE TRUTH, SO THAT THEY GAIN NO POWER FROM MY TEACHINGS.

No Christians have supported my comprehensive exposure of the OP'S LIES.

That can only happen by someone COMMANDING them not to support my Ministry- which is THE ONLY ONE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUE GOSPEL.

enilove:

I am a living witness to the power of Jesus to heal , to protect , give peace , to bless and to drive out demons . But to you , Jesus is all that you have written about him because you belong to the devil.

Your unbelief would not change the truth to falsehood. Surely , you would regret ever rejecting Jesus as your saviour when you dies.

lepasharon:


You are just one person, so you're irrelevant.

We are talking about Nigerian Christians as a whole.

All jesus can offer is dreams. Look at Nigerian society.

NIGERIAN SOCIETY- LIKE ALL OTHERS- IS MADE UP OF A MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY THE GOSPEL- AND A MAJORITY, WHO DON'T!

HappyPagan:

After three years, the village people decided they were sick and tired of Jesus' ass. So they nailed him to a cross like a painting.

. JOHN 18:28-39.

28. Then led they Jesus
from Caiaphas unto
The Hall of Judgment:
and it was early;
and they themselves
went not into the Judgment Hall,
lest they should be defiled;
but that they might eat the Passover.
29. Pilate then went out unto them,
and said,

"What accusation bring ye
against this man?"

30. They answered and said
unto him,

"If he were not a malefactor,
we would not have
delivered him up unto thee."

31. Then said Pilate unto them,

"Take ye him,
and judge him
according to your Law."

The Jews therefore said unto him,

"It is not lawful for us
to put any man to death:"

32. That the Saying of Jesus
might be fulfilled,
which he Spake,
signifying what death
he should die.
33. Then Pilate entered into
the Judgment Hall again,
and called Jesus,
and said unto him,

"Art thou the King of the Jews?"

34. Jesus answered him,

"Sayest thou this thing of thyself,
or did others tell it thee of me?"

35. Pilate answered,

"Am I a Jew? Thine own nation
and the Chief Priests
have delivered thee unto me:
what hast thou done?"


36. Jesus answered,

"My Kingdom is not of this World:
if my Kingdom were of this World,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered
to the Jews:
but now is my Kingdom
not from hence."

37. Pilate therefore said unto him,

"Art thou a king then?"

Jesus answered,

"Thou sayest that I am a king.
To this end was I born,
and for this cause
came I into the World,
that I should bear witness
unto The Truth.
Every one that is of The Truth
heareth my Voice."

38. Pilate saith unto him,

"What is Truth?"

And when he had said this,
he went out again unto the Jews,
and saith unto them,

"I find in him no fault (at all).
39. "But ye have a Custom,
that I should release unto you
one at the Passover:
will ye therefore that
I release unto you
the King of the Jews?"

THE GOSPEL WAS NOT SENT, AND LORD YESHUA DID NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO BE TORTURED TO DEATH, TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR SINNERS!

That is like saying that, "IF KARATE WERE A TRUE MARTIAL ART, IT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE VICTORIOUS FIGHTERS, EVEN IF THEY NEVER DID ALL THE TRAINING REQUIRED OF KARATEKA!"

Only those who DO THE GOSPEL can BENEFIT from The Gospel.

Bible Religion is based on THESE TEN OBJECTIVE GOALS:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


At least THE FIRST TALENT: TOTAL RECALL- is necessary to COME TO GOD.


. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"


oaroloye:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


Awareness, that is, Life, has FORTY LEVELS:

All things that live are fed by Living Energy that comes to the Earth through seven Realms collectively called HEAVEN.

All things that Exist are made of Living Data, that look like fibres of Living Light. These would be THE WORDS OF GOD. Attempts to analyze them deeply KILLS MORTAL SEERS on the spot.

These light fibres never occur alone, but form CLUSTERS which are group together to form BANDS. Bands are grouped into GREAT BANDS.

The whole Earth is made up of BANDS of Spiritual Energy. These Bands occur in association with one another, called GREAT BANDS.

This Life Energy has three types consistent with Plants, with Insects, and with Animals.

BANDS contained in rigid containers called RECEPTACLES make specific "Non-Living" OBJECTS.

BAND contained in flexible containers called COCOONS make specific LIVING THINGS.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

FORTY GREAT SPIRITUAL ENERGY BANDS feed "Non-Living" structures in the Earth.

. THE 40 LEVELS OF AWARENESS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION
8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS

4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATION
2.5 BOREDOM

2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.


. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS.

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND;
5. ALL LIVING THINGS;
6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy,
Space, Time - PHYSICAL)
UNIVERSE; 7. SPIRITS;
8. GOD.


. AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.

[SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE DYNAMICS & TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH GOD, BOTH YOU AND HE MUST AGREE ON THE FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF YOUR EXISTENCE!

REPENTING of ALL of your Sins is impossible, when:

(1) YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOD'S COMMANDMENTS ARE.

(2) YOU DO NOT REMEMBER ALL THE TIMES YOU BROKE THEM.


Attaining TOTAL RECALL of one's whole life, from Birth to Present Time, is a HARROWING exercise, that can take almost a YEAR to complete.

An Israelite is supposed to be dedicated to God by age 13 in a ritual called BAR/BAT MITZVAH.

They then have SEVEN YEARS to learn THE WAY OF GOD, so that, by age 20, they are fully-equipped to serve God in any capacity, having obtained THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, that grant access to the Resources and Powers of THE SEVEN HEAVENS.

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

. REVELATION 4:5.

5. And out of The Throne
proceeded Lightnings
and Thunderings and Voices:
and there were seven Lamps of Fire
burning before The Throne,
Which are The seven Spirits of God.

. REVELATION 5:6.

6. And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the Throne
and of the four Beasts,
and in the midst of the Elders,
stood a Lamb
as it had been slain,
having seven Horns
and seven Eyes,
which are The seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the Earth.

OF COURSE, THE ISRAELITES RARELY, IF EVER, OBEYED THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD ON HOW TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN!

frosbel2:

2. They have control issues.
Evil people have this in common: they're controlling. But it's not all about controlling you. They often feel downright uncomfortable and powerless if they aren't in control of every aspect of their lives.

(2) YAHWEH GOD HAS "CONTROL ISSUES."

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

HE DEMANDS CONTROL OVER EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee
this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.
[/quote]

INSTEAD OF TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN, AS GOD COMMANDED BY MOSES, THE ISRAELITES IDIOTICALLY HIRED "RABBIS" AND "MASTERS" TO DO THEIR JOB FOR THEM!

These therefore ALTERED and TWISTED The Truth in order to fit their Political, Social, Financial, and Criminal Agendas.

lepasharon:

Savage! I just love this. Kill them with the facts.

Where is that your big mouth, when the facts do not favour you, lepashaun? Do you still get paid for Posting, when your Post makes Atheism look FOOLISH?

It is ATHEISTS who are killed by THE FACTS.

Some of you even commit SUICIDE.

[See: SUICIDE NOTE, by Mitchell Heisman.]
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 9:05am On Mar 13, 2020
I just love seeing this aoroloye guy arguing with atheists and disturbing them with his stupid and lengthy write-ups! grin

Sebi you guys feel like arguing, and when i told you there is just one group of true Christians you people said "NO whoever claims to be a Christian should be accepted as one"
So now is the time to argue, start arguing with a Christian as you want! grin
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 10:04am On Mar 13, 2020
The Rabbis, Masters, and Teachers therefore always ALTER and TWIST The Truth in order to fit their Political, Social, Financial, and Criminal Agendas.

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

THEN came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,

2. "Why do thy Disciples
transgress the Tradition
of the Elders?
For they wash not
their hands when
they eat bread."

3. But he answered
and Said unto them,

"Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God
by your Tradition?
4. "For God Commanded,
Saying,

'HONOUR THY FATHER
AND MOTHER:
AND, HE THAT CURSETH
FATHER OR MOTHER
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'


5. "But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,


"IT IS A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"


6. 'AND HONOUR NOT
HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'


Thus have ye made
The Commandment of God
of none effect
by your Tradition.
7. "Ye Hypocrites,
well did Esaias
Prophesy of you,
saying,

8. 'THIS PEOPLE
DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN
THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS
OF MEN.' "


10. And he called the multitude,
and Said unto them,

"Hear, and understand:
11. "Not that which goeth
into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh
out of the mouth,
this defileth a man."

12. Then came his Disciples,
and Said unto him,

"Knowest thou that
the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

15. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Declare unto us this Parable."

16. And Jesus Said,

"Are ye also yet
without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out
into the draught?
18. "But those things
which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Murders, Adulteries,
Fornications, Thefts,
False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with
unwashen hands
defileth not a man."

solite3:

just because you havent seen, does not mean it does not exist.

ANYTHING THAT IS BELIEVED EXISTS- TO MAKE IT EXIST PHYSICALLY, SO THAT ALL WITH PHYSICAL SENSES CAN PERCEIVE IT, IT ONLY NEEDS THE POWER OF THE THIRD TALENT.

Lord Yeshua's Miracles are explained by THE TEN TALENTS Doctrine.

LordReed:

You know, on a personal level the Jesus story is so inspiring and comforting, one can understand why people desperately cling to it. It is when you look at the broader picture and realize that it is nonsense and can be damaging nonsense, that you really want to kick it to where it belongs, back into the book it came from.

"REALIZATION" THAT "THE JESUS STORY" IS "NONSENSE" IS AN ARMCHAIR PHILOSOPHY OF SOMEONE WEAK-MINDED, WHO LIVES IN A BULLSHIT TOWER- REAL PEOPLE HAVE 100% CONSCIOUSNESS- AS OPPOSED TO YOUR PALTRY 10%- AND VERIFY LORD YESHUA'S "STORY" IN THEIR OWN LIVES.

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.'


NOTE THAT MOST CHRISTIANS ARE OF THE OYINBO-LED ORGANIZED CHURCHES, AND DO NOT BELIEVE JOHN 14:12.

solite3:

@ bolded I rather stick with Jesus who gives me hope, comfort,Joy and love than atheism that gives hopelessness,uncertainty and confusion. Fact, an atheist has no hope after death and life is obscure, dark and meaningless but Jesus makes you understand you purpose and evalasting joy.

kingxsamz:


Have you died before, no?
So your point is highly irrelevant...

THAT IS A STUPID THING TO SAY! NONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT CORPSES TO LORD YESHUA TO RAISE THEM FROM THE DEAD, HAD DIED BEFORE, NOR LIKELY SEEN THE DEAD RAISED BEFORE,

Their Faith that God could do that by Lord Yeshua could do this was rewarded appropriately, as your Unbelief will be rewarded appropriately.

LordReed:


Who cares about after death? I'll be dead with nothing to care about. You should have just said you are scared of death, that will be understandable. It is after all a finality, with nothing surviving to come back and tell us what it's like.

Meanwhile, you are wrong in saying atheism gives hopelessness,uncertainty and confusion. That is a caricature based on your fairytale. We do not need a god story to tell us what to do with our lives and thankfully so because it frees us to do and be and expand the horizons of human knowledge and capabilities while god believers like you insist you know it all and rely on prayers. It wasn't your prayers to god that manufactured the device you are using to post and it won't be your prayers that bring about the next technological advance that you'll rush to go spend your money on.

THE SECOND TALENT OF POWER: EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION, VERIFIES THE TRUTH ABOUT DEATH.

When any Creature dies, it is immediately required to give a TOTAL RECALL Record of its entire life. If it cannot do this in a speedy fashion, the Entity that collects Records cuts into the Soul Body, to extract the data by Brute Force.

The Soul Body so treated cannot deploy its Spirit Energy AfterLife Body, and is finished off by Spirit Being Scavengers, consistent with Biblical Devils, who completely destroy the Soul Body, in the process of extracting its last life energies.

A thing they do for their own survival.

The only thing that stops this from happening is to attain TOTAL RECALL of one's whole life, from birth, before one dies. (There are several techniques of doing this.)

The Soul Bodies of people who do this, and only the Soul Bodies of people who have done this, survive the "accounting," and are not destroyed.

They then draw from the last life energies of every cell in their Physical Body, and use it to create a Spirit Energy Body, capable of housing their Personality and Memories. This is what can now go to Heaven, or to Hell, or None-of-the-Above, according to the Spiritual Associations it made in life.

ALL OF THE AFTERLIFE STORIES OF EVERY RELIGION LIE- IN THAT THEY CLAIM THAT AFTERLIFE SURVIVAL IS A GIVEN!

Some Religions have TOTAL RECALL "built-in," including Buddhism, Lamaism, Shinto, Hinduism, Taoism, Judaism, and Christianity- BUT ONLY THE ZEALOUSLY-DILIGENT ATTAIN IT.

Those who are not zealously-diligent are allowed to die in ignorance, and COMPLETELY FORFEIT THEIR SOULS- because they are not wanted.

ALL RELIGIONS WERE CREATED OR CORRUPTED BY THE DEVILS, IN ORDER TO FEED THEM HUMAN LIFE ENERGIES IN LIFE AND IN DEATH!

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

solite3:

Many certified dead people has being brought back to life through the name of Jesus.
Many who were sick recieved healing through Jesus.
Why dont you come to Jesus and taste the sweetnesd ib his name

A TRUE CHRISTIAN WOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'


3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'


5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'


6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'


7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'


And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'


8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'


10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye have not been
Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed
amongst Men
is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

YOUR CHURCHES ARE ABOMINATIONS, WHICH ACCEPT PEOPLE WHO HAVE DELIBERATELY COMMITTED SINS AS CHRISTIANS.

These Atheists who deliberately Blaspheme against God, can never become Christians ever again.

After they have lived long enough to attain some maturity of mind, they sometimes try to "REPENT." That is MEANINGLESS, because they can no longer be SAVED.

No Atheist has ever Repented and become a REAL Christian again. There are aspects of The Gospel that THEY STILL REJECT.

lepasharon:

Proof? You can't make an extraordinary claim like that and not drop evidence

CARL SAGAN IS QUOTED AS SAYING: "EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE!"

He therefore died a FOOL, rejecting THE GOSPEL, like other Atheists before him.

. MATTHEW 15:13-14.

13. But he answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

AFTER HE DIED, HE SURELY SAW HIS FOOLISHNESS- BUT IT WAS TOO LATE, THEN!

kingxsamz:

Why are your pastors avoiding hospitals? There are many sick people there nw....

LORD YESHUA COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES TO HEAL THE SICK BELIEVERS BUT TO SPECIFICALLY STAY AWAY FROM THE UNBELIEVERS.

He only ever Healed BELIEVERS, not UNBELIEVERS.

Divine-Healing is for the WORSHIPPERS of YAHWEH GOD, not for the worshippers of OTHER GODS- such as APOLLO.

Western Hospitals are based on the worship of ASCLEPIUS, Son of the Greek god APOLLO, and of his wife, and nine children.

Why should God Heal those who have gone to a different god, whom they placed BEFORE HIM, for Healing?

solite3:

with God, life makes more meaning, If there is no God then life would make no sense, morality would be subjective according to individual taste, every man may at one point in time ponder on the reason for his existence, unfortunately atheism offer no real answers. Without God the device I m using wont even be possible, he created the material used in making it, he created the principles/laws he guided people into discovering it.
As a matter of fact man has nothing everything he has he recieved them. Man is nothing without God, for example you dont even know if you will see tomorrow.
Yes prayers itself is nothing, it is the prayer to God through Jesus Christ that has answers. When we pray, God can guide our actions, thought process or even asking the right question to would give a result. So your thought process shows you know little about prayer.

IF YOU TRULY SERVED GOD, YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THE BIBLE EXPLICITLY STATES THAT PRAYER TO GOD WILL DO PEOPLE LIKE THESE ATHEISTS NO GOOD, WHATSOEVER!

LordReed:

Blah, blah, blah and more blah. There is nothing you gain by all this prayer a quick exercise in meditation cannot achieve. Your god stories are unnecessary for achieving anything in this life.

IF MEDITATION CAN DO WHAT PRAYER HAS BEEN PROVEN TO DO- HEAL THE SICK, THE MAIMED, AND THE DEAD- WHY AREN'T YOU DOING IT?

Why don't YOU have TOTAL RECALL?

You are just using THINGS YOU HAVE HEARD to try to WIN ARGUMENTS- but you have NEVER personally applied that Knowledge.

lepasharon:

Do you believe in dragons, unicorns, banshee, trolls?

THE DEVILS ARE ABLE TO PROJECT HOLOGRAPHIC CAMOUFLAGE OF ANYTHING THEY WANT VICTIMS TO SEE- WHILE THEY DRAIN THEIR LIFE FORCE.

kingxsamz:

Have you seen? undecided

THESE ARE OFTEN THE LAST THING MANY PEOPLE SEE.

They are generally presumed to have died of "EXPOSURE," or "HEART-FAILURE."

kingxsamz:

Make we hear word abeg...
I'm sure you didn't read the Op's post. Shows how ignorant you have chosen to remain for the rest of your life.

I HAVE DISPROVEN HIS EVERY POINT AS A LIE- HE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF MY DEBUNKS- CONSISTENT WITH BEING PAID TO WRITE AS AN OYINBO ATHEIST SHILL!

kingxsamz:

Why are your pastors avoiding hospitals? There are many sick people there nw....

frosbel2:


I was in Nigeria recently. People are sick all over the place and the hospitals are also full. Where are the Jesus healers ? Nowhere to be found. Please don't make me laugh.

Without doctors and family support, 95% of the sick will perish.

Your pastors are comedians and the white Jesus is helpless.

DIVINE HEALING IS NOT FOR HEALING IDOL-WORSHIPPERS.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 10:13am On Mar 13, 2020
^^
Nobody reads the recycled nonsense you keep typing.

Just save yourself the time and do something useful.

smiley
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by BlueAngel444: 10:59am On Mar 13, 2020
frosbel2:
I would like to state a few reasons why I think Jesus cannot save you. These reasons are based on hard facts , experience and what I see happening in Nigeria on a daily basis.
Do you even understand what salvation is?
Jesus cannot defeat Boko Haram
Despite pastors cursing Boko Haram on a daily basis, and despite all the prayers to Jesus, Boko Haram is still a pain in our back side.
Did Jesus send them? It is written in the scripture, God said He did not send these people yet they went, they spoke out of their own imagination and not what God said

Jesus cannot bring you peace
Despite the promise of peace, many Christians suffer from stress, high blood pressure and anxiety. Sorry, Jesus cannot bring you peace. If you want peace, live within your means, live a contented life, avoid a quarrelsome existence and, operate by the well known mantra - live and let live.
because some claim what they are not doesn't disqualify the true children of God who are peacemakers, and live in contentment

Jesus cannot heal the sick
Our hospitals are overwhelmed with the sick despite the large population of born again believers. Even though healing is prominently promised in the bible, the sick are not getting healed by Jesus, they are getting healed by medicine and doctors.
Even in Jesus day he didn't heal every single sick person nor did he raise everyone that died back to life. Besides God heals whoever he choices to ,just like he let's some have, some live, some die and some loss. God heals be with leaves, a river or a prayer

Jesus cannot make you rich
95% of people who pay tithes are broke, despite the bible promising a bountiful harverst. Jesus is not a money multiplier, he cannot make you rich. You gotta work hard bro and sis.
where did Jesus promise to make anyone rich?

Jesus cannot bring overwhelming righteousness to Nigeria
The bible says that when the light shines , the darkness is driven out. In Nigeria it appears that the darkness is driving out the light despite the millions and millions of born again believers. It's either 99% of the believers in Nigeria are fake or Jesus is fake. Irrespective, Jesus followers and their master are not increasing righteousness in Nigeria.
when Jesus was alive he was light into the way of salvation, that doesn't mean darkness as the Jewish council, the romans and other evils seize to exist. God came into the midst of the Israelites yet they went for a golden calf
Jesus cannot make you overcome sin
Oh please dont make me laugh. Christians in Nigeria are unable to overcome sin , thats for sure. They lie, cheat, steal, fornicate, bribe, receive bribes, bear false witness, sleep with the wives/husbands of other people, hate anyone who is not part of their church talk less of Christianity as a whole and humanity in general.......
of course he CANNOT MAKE you, He sent the Holy Spirit to help those who are WILLING to receive. I don't speak for Christians though, I speak for children of God irrespective of their weaknesses you will sense love and kindness in them and they won't hurt even those who hurt them.

Jesus cannot make the blind see or deaf hear
No need for examples here, even Christians know this is true; and yet Jesus told his followers that they will make the blind see and deaf hear. Another lie ??

Jesus cannot raise the dead
As a former Christian in some of the staunchest cultic sects, I have never seen a dead body raised from the dead. Its either Jesus lied, or Christians are doing it wrong.

Jesus cannot drive out demons
So many mad people and mentally challenged individuals in Nigeria and Christians are unable to cast out their demons and restore them to sanity.
like wrote earlier, Jesus never said he would do it for everyone. He went to a pool place where there were so many sick people and only healed one man who had been bedridden for 30+yrs

Jesus is not coming back
His disciples expected him to come back in their life time to no avail. Its now over 2000 years and Jesus is still not here. Oh please, stop deceiving yourselves, he aint coming back.
There is no place in scripture that says his disciples were certain of him coming back in their time.

cheesy Stop deceiving yourself grin
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by BlueAngel444: 11:04am On Mar 13, 2020
lepasharon:


You are just one person, so you're irrelevant.

We are talking about Nigerian Christians as a whole.

All jesus can offer is dreams. Look at Nigerian society.
you mean a society built by corrupt men

Did the Jews change or the romans change because few believed in God, what did they do THEY FREAKING PERSECUTED THEM
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by BlueAngel444: 11:06am On Mar 13, 2020
lepasharon:
Savage! I just love this. Kill them with the facts.


Religion is all about selling dreams and offering false hope.

All religion does is sell dream!
you like the way motivational speakers sell BS they don't do, or doctors convince people of a success rate but doesn't apologize when it fails. Or mechanics, work men, bankers, shareholders with promises that fail.

Men will always sell a lie

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