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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 10:35pm On Mar 07, 2020 |
frosbel2:No you cannot see, don't lie! You don't know what "Kingdom" means to begin with, nor can you "see" how Nigeria improves! 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 10:44pm On Mar 07, 2020 |
budaatum: Really ? You are funny. What are ,or what should be the attributes of Gods kingdom and how does Nigeria as a country perform when compared with Gods standards ? According to the bible, Christians are called to be Gods ambassadors here on earth, a reflection of his kingdom, lights that should be emulated; the presense of which should drive our darkness and improve society. Chew on this for now... 3 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 10:47pm On Mar 07, 2020 |
budaatum: Circular argument invitation declined. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 12:05am On Mar 08, 2020 |
frosbel2: That moniker is a head scratcher |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 12:10am On Mar 08, 2020 |
Blakewilli: So why then do Christian's bother to convert people 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by ichuka(m): 12:24am On Mar 08, 2020 |
lepasharon:Wrong dude,because she aren't alone. Christianity is simply Christ Himself. The true church is an expression/extension of His life here on earth. (If u know,u know) but for your kind to grasp/understand it,u must believe first. |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 12:26am On Mar 08, 2020 |
ichuka: Bullshit 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by ichuka(m): 12:47am On Mar 08, 2020 |
lepasharon:Lol Dude,u seriously need to See!!! Again (!if u know,u know) But how can u know.when u are yet to see? 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by enilove(m): 12:56am On Mar 08, 2020 |
lepasharon: There are uncountable number of testimonies among Christians , which is the reason why Nigerians are going to church in millions. |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by enilove(m): 1:00am On Mar 08, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Your reply above shows you are the ignorant one here . 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by drmikeadams(m): 1:49am On Mar 08, 2020 |
frosbel2:our pastors are commedians and we the congregation are bunch of jokers |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by drmikeadams(m): 1:51am On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove:ur fairy tale testimonies full of comic in 3D |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by LordReed(m): 7:59am On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove: Because it's a numbers game! The bigger the congregation, the higher the number of testimonies. You know what will be a better test? Find a church where every member is never sick, never lacks and never has any problems that don't get resolved by prayer. Instead what happens is because frequency is tied to higher numbers you are encouraged to bring more and more people into the church because you don't know who will receive a miracle. The more people that come the more chances there are that one of them will receive a miracle. BTW I use the word miracle loosely. Its not really miracles you are witnessing but the power of motivation and chance. That is why not everyone gets it. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Reality11: 8:35am On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove: Audio healing Audio protection Audio peace Abeg which demon did you drive out? Imaginary demon, imaginary driving out abi? Besides you are in Nigeria how can you say you have peace? Is like a sick person saying he is healthy. 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Reality11: 8:59am On Mar 08, 2020 |
solite3: Many certified dead people has being brought back to life through the name of Many who were sick recieved healing through Why dont you come to And yeah tluno is great, he has proven he is the Almighty. You don't even have to pray or beg for him. He grants all wishes. People recover from sickness People get job People get admission Some are Lucky to survive accident... and so on. Even Without praying while many have perished while praying. Moreover we all know what the result would be if when are to test the efficacy of prayer IT DOESN'T WORK How can you say a drug works when it has never been proven to cure? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Reality11: 9:24am On Mar 08, 2020 |
solite3: Its more like saying, I'll rather deceive myself that a certain dead Jew would give me hope, comfort and joy and love and then he'll take me to an imaginary place where it is full of bliss when I die. Oga, the reality is bitter face it, don't wallow yourself in delusion 4 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 9:34am On Mar 08, 2020 |
lepasharon:Its our job as christians madame |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by SalC: 9:45am On Mar 08, 2020 |
Is this where frosbel has gotten to? I thought it was a joke when Gombs said you were about to discover oyel down there. |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by kingxsamz(m): 9:49am On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove: You mean those made up testimonies? Those pastors know how gullible you folks are, that's why they keep organizing actors to come and play the role of someone seeking miracle... Why are these miracles only happening in churches? Why not the hospitals? I'm %100 sure that no pastor has got the guts to attempt to heal people in the hospital because they know deep down that they possess no power. |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by kingxsamz(m): 9:52am On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove: This is what happens in churches... The pastors who hired this woman are still in church today, deceiving people like you... They should go to hospitals and heal the sick. 3 Likes
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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 2:42pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
enilove: Show me an amputee growing a limb. Not all these testimonies that anyone can lie about, like HIV + to negative or SS to AA 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 6:11pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Blakewilli: You said things of the spirit are caught and not taught..can you confuse and contradict yourself any further? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by budaatum: 8:14pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
frosbel2:You are funny too, and if you had asked rhetorically, I would have renamed you frosJesusbel! Read one of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+13%3A18-35&version=NIV]Jesus responses to your question[/url] below and do work to find out more. The Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast 18 Then Jesus asked, “What is the kingdom of God like? What shall I compare it to? 19 It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his garden. It grew and became a tree, and the birds perched in its branches.” 20 Again he asked, “What shall I compare the kingdom of God to? 21 It is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.” He [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+17%3A20-21&version=NIV]also said[/url], The Coming of the Kingdom of God 20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.” I wonder what understanding you have of the above? frosbel2:Indeed, "Christians are called to be Gods ambassadors here on earth". Unfortunately, like all humans, they often fail, which is why we keep learning. I tell you the truth when I say the people of the future will be further evolved from the people of today, just as you are further evolved from those.who were before you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 9:57pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
lepasharon:You have to know what you want to catch before you begin. Thats where christians help. They equip you with the essential tools to begin eg: giving your life to Christ, coming to Church etc. Salvation is a personal race. |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by lepasharon(f): 10:11pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Blakewilli: Trash 1 Like |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by sonmvayina(m): 11:07pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
We never went to Jesus for answers..
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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 8:00am On Mar 09, 2020 |
MISHIGAS! frosbel2: . LEVITICUS 24:10-16. 10. And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the Children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a Man of Israel strove together in the camp; 11. And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed The Name of The LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: [and his mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:] 12. And they put him in ward, that the Mind of The LORD might be shewed them. 13. And The LORD Spake unto Moses, Saying, 14. "Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the Congregation stone him. 15. "And thou shalt speak unto the Children of Israel, saying, 'WHOSOEVER CURSETH HIS GOD SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.' 16. "And he that blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, he shall surely be put to Death, and all the Congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the Stranger as he that is Born in the land, when he blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, shall be put to death." . MATTHEW 12:22-37. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this The Son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by the Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his Goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O generation of Vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “ 37. "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." EVERY DAY IS FOR THE BLASPHEMOUS- BUT ONE DAY IS FOR THE JUDGMENT OF GOD! frosbel2: LORD YESHUA HAS OVERCOME THE WORLD- BUT ONLY THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM GET TO SHARE IN THAT VICTORY! How could it be otherwise? I am the sort of Christian whom BOKO HARAM would like to kill... but they have never done me any harm, nor threatened any! WHY IS THAT? . LUKE 10:1-16. After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come. 2. Therefore Said he unto them, "The Harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore The Lord of the Harvest, that He would send forth labourers into His Harvest. 3. "Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 4. "Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way. 5. "And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, 'PEACE BE TO THIS HOUSE.' 6. "And if the Son of Peace be there, your Peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again. 7. "And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: 'FOR THE LABOURER IS WORTHY OF HIS HIRE.' Go not from house to house. 8. "And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you: 9. "And Heal the Sick that are therein, and say unto them, 'THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME NIGH UNTO YOU.' 10. "But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, 11.'EVEN THE DUST OF YOUR CITY, WHICH CLEAVETH ON US, WE DO WIPE OFF AGAINST YOU: NOTWITHSTANDING BE YE SURE OF THIS, THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME NIGH UNTO YOU.' 12. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT IT SHALL BE MORE TOLERABLE IN THAT DAY FOR SODOM, THAN FOR THAT CITY.' 13. "Woe unto thee, Chorazin! Woe unto thee, Bethsaida! For if the Mighty Works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14. "But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the Judgment, than for you. 15. "And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to Heaven, shalt be thrust down to Hell. 16. "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth Him That sent me." . JOHN 8:28-36. 28. Then Said Jesus unto them, "When ye have lifted up The Son of Man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath Taught me, I Speak these things. 29. "And He that sent me is with me: The Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him." 30. As he Spake these Words, many believed on him. 31. Then Said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, "If ye continue in my Word, then are ye my Disciples indeed; 32. "And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you Free." 33. They answered him, "We be Abraham's Seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, 'YE SHALL BE MADE FREE?' " 34. Jesus answered them, "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN IS THE SERVANT OF SIN. 35. 'AND THE SERVANT ABIDETH NOT IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER: BUT THE SON ABIDETH EVER.' 36. "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." WHY AM I FREE FROM BOKO HARAM PERSECUTION? IS IT NOT BECAUSE I HAVE OBEYED THE LORD, AND CONTINUED IN HIS WORD- BY STAYING AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT THE GOSPEL! Why don't those STUPID CHRISTIANS being killed by Muslim Terrorists have that much commonsense? . MATTHEW 16:13-20. 13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his Disciples, Saying, "Whom do men say that I The Son of Man am?" 14. And they said, "Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the Prophets." 15. He Saith unto them, "But whom say ye that I am?" 16. And Simon Peter answered and said, "Thou art the Christ, The Son of The Living God." 17. And Jesus answered and Said unto him, "Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for Flesh and Blood hath not Revealed It unto thee, but my Father Which is in Heaven. 18. "And I Say also unto thee, 'THAT THOU ART PETER, AND UPON UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH; AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL IT.' 19. "And I will give unto thee The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven." 20. Then charged he his Disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus The Christ. . MATTHEW 23:1-15. THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts, and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues, 7. "And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' 8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:' for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are Brethren. 9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth: for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven. 10. "Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11. "But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13. "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation. 15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! for ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more The Child of Hell than yourselves." . MATTHEW 24:1-5. AND Jesus went out, and departed from the Temple: and his Disciples came to him for to shew him the Buildings of The Temple. 2. And Jesus Said unto them, "See ye not all these things? Verily I Say unto you, 'THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER THAT SHALL NOT BE THROWN DOWN.' 3. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the Disciples came unto him privately, saying, "Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be The Sign of thy Coming, and of The End of the World?" 4. And Jesus answered and Said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you. 5. "For many shall come in my Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." ALL PASTORS ARE AGENTS OF THE DEVIL- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD PASTOR- THEY ARE ALL EVIL! Those who follow them ARE NOT CHRISTIANS- they are REBELS! GOD DID NOT DRAW THEM TO LORD YESHUA- MEN TOLD THEM THAT LORD YESHUA IS THE CHRIST: THEY NEVER HEARD IT FROM GOD. That is why, when people like ME (there IS no one like ME,) preach about IMPLEMENTING Lord Yeshua's actual Teachings, they all denounce me, as if I were babbling in Unknown Tongues! frosbel2: THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF CHRISTIAN- THOSE WHO MAKE EVERY SACRIFICE NECESSARY TO ABIDE IN LORD YESHUA- AND THOSE WHO DON'T. . MATTHEW 7:12-29. 12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is The Law and The Prophets. 13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate: for wide is the Gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to Destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. "Because strait is the Gate, and narrow is The Way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it. 15. "Beware of False Prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17. "Even so every Good Tree bringeth forth Good Fruit; but a Corrupt Tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit. 18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit, neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit. 19. "Every tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit is hewn down, and cast into the Fire. 20 Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them. 21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven; but He that doeth The Will of my Father Which is in Heaven. 22 Many will say to me in That Day, 'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?' 23. "And then will I profess unto them, 'I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.' 24. "Therefore whosoever heareth These Sayings of mine, and doeth Them, I will liken him unto a Wise Man, which built his house upon a rock: 25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 . "And every one that heareth These Sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a Foolish Man, which built his house upon the sand: 27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it." 28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these Sayings, the people were astonished at his Doctrine: 29. For He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes. FOOLS LIKE YOURSELF RECOGNIZE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO, AND THINK THAT GOD SHOULD EQUALLY BLESS THOSE WHO OBEY HIS SON, WITH THOSE WHO DON'T. . MATTHEW 5:38-48. 38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' 39. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL: BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE ON THY RIGHT CHEEK, TURN TO HIM THE OTHER ALSO.' 40. "And if any man will sue thee at The Law, and take away thy coat, let him have (thy) cloke also. 41. "And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42. "Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said, 'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AND HATE THINE ENEMY.' 44. "But I Say unto you, 'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU, DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, AND PRAY FOR THEM WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU AND PERSECUTE YOU.' 45. "That ye may be the Children of your Father Which is in Heaven: for He maketh His Sun to rise on the Evil and on the Good, and sendeth Rain on the Just and on the Unjust. 46. "For if ye love them which love you, what Reward have ye? Do not even the Publicans the same? 47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only, what do ye more (than others) Do not even the Publicans so? 48. "Be ye therefore Perfect, even as your Father Which is in Heaven is Perfect." ALL CHRISTIAN STRESS IS CAUSED BY DISOBEDIENCE OF THIS SPECIFIC SCRIPTURE. If you ALTRUISTICALLY LOVE your known Enemies, you will be OFFENDED by NO ONE. That stress completely vanishes. But in praying FOR, and NEVER AGAINST our Enemies, we RESIST the NATURAL FORCE of the World, and so build up Power to OVERCOME It. Those who become PASTORS, and FOLLOW PASTORS, and who PRAY AGAINST PERCEIVED ENEMIES, are FOLLOWING NATURE, and YIELDING to THE EARTH, instead of OVERCOMING It, and SUBDUING It. frosbel2: I SUFFERED FROM ONE OF THE FIRST CASES OF CHRONIC DRUG-RESISTANT MALARIA, AND, BY THE TIME I WAS SAVED, IN 1979, I EXPECTED TO DIE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS- TO MY SHOCK, I LEARNED THAT A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN HAS THE RIGHT TO PRAY FOR ANYTHING- AND EXPECT GOD TO ANSWER POSITIVELY! I quickly learned how to Heal myself by Prayer in Jesus' Name. I expected my new fellow Brethren to rejoice at my Testimony, but they did not. I later learned that what I did was considered IMPOSSIBLE: they could NEVER expect God to REALLY answer their prayers- they were riddled with ADULTEROUS SEX, PETTY HATREDS, COVETOUSNESS, and when they were sick, ALWAYS RELIED ON MEDICINE. When these Hypocrites said that "JESUS HEALED THEM," they ALWAYS meant that THEY PRAYED OVER MEDICINE THEY TOOK, AND GAVE JESUS THE "GLORY." . REVELATION 9:20-21. 20. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these Plagues yet repented not of the Works of their hands, that they should not worship Devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21. Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. THE GREEK WORD TRANSLATED "SORCERY" IS "PHARMACEA." Pharmaceuticals are SORCERY. WESTERN MEDICINE is based on GREEK PAGAN Religion- the worship of ASCLEPIUS, Son of APOLLO, his WIFE EPIONE, the goddess of PAIN RELIEF, and their nine children, who represent each aspect of Western Medicine. ASCLEPIUS' eight children by EPIONE we're: HYGIEIA, the goddess of Cleanliness; IASO, the goddess of Recuperation from Illness; ACESO, the goddess of the Healing Process; AEGLE, the goddess of Good Health; PANACEA, the goddess of Universal Remedy; MACHAON, god of Battlefield Surgery; PODALEIRIUS, god of Battlefield Wound Healing and Vetinary Healing; TELESPHOROS, god of Covalescence. He also had a son, ARATUS by a Human consort, ARISTODAMUS. HIPPOCRATES was the Priest of ASCLEPIUS: Western Doctors swear an Oath of Allegiance to HIM- not to YAHWEH GOD. IT IS THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS TO EXPECT YAHWEH GOD TO HEAL APOLLO'S PATIENTS! |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 10:04am On Mar 09, 2020 |
[(2 of 2) Concluding:] Whereas, many POOR people, who cannot afford Western Medicine, are Miraculously Healed in quiet, Bush and Village Meetings, such as do not usually happen in CITIES, with CAMERAS and LIVE-STREAMING. The people who go to THOSE Meetings are SERIOUS. An American Missionary, RAY MacCAULEY, was shocked at the EXTREME Healings he experienced in the South African Bush, as opposed to those in America. He prayed to know why, and the Lord showed him that THESE PEOPLE HAD SUFFERED TO COME TO HIS MEETINGS. Some TREKKED for TWO WEEKS, to come to be prayed for by the head of RHEMA BIBLE TRAINING CENTER from America. "WHEN A PERSON SEEKS THEIR HEALING FROM ME, FOR TWO WEEKS,WALKING," THE VOICE OF THE LORD TOLD RAY MacCAULEY, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND IT! Therefore, serious Christians get Healed, while unserious ones do not. frosbel2: THE GOSPEL IS CAPABLE OF MAKING A PERSON RICH- BUT ONE HAS TO UTILIZE THOSE RICHES, RIGHTEOUSLY. . MATTHEW 6:19-24. 19. "Lay not up for yourselves Treasures upon Earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where Thieves break through and Steal: 20. "But lay up for yourselves Treasures in Heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where Thieves do not break through nor Steal: 21. "For where your Treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22. "The Light of the Body is the Eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole Body shall be full of Light. 23. "But if thine Eye be Evil, thy whole Body shall be full of Darkness. If therefore the Light that is in thee be Darkness, how great is that Darkness! 24. "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." THE GOSPEL IS NOT ABOUT ACCUMULATING A MOUNTAIN OF USELESS CASH- THAT IS CALLED "COVETOUSNESS!" The easy way to become rich would be to CREATE GOLD. That is EASY. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-46.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. TOTAL RECALL alone would make one a BILLIONAIRE, in short order. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION would easily uncover Resources and Treasures, such as Water Reservoirs, Oil, Previous Stones, Minerals and Metals, etc. Knowledge gained by ESP has immense value. Writing PULITZER-PRIZE Winning Novels worth MILLIONS in Royalties is EASY. TELEKINESIS would enable one to, say, refine elements out of the Sea- there is even a Prophecy predicting that. TELEPORTATION/TRANSLATION involves the assembling of MEST using the MIND. Any valuable Matter, Energy, Space, and Time artifact can be obtained through Lord Yeshua. YORUBAS are familiar with the JUJU Technique of Materializing Currency- which KILLS the Host of the Juju. But what if the Host had EVERLASTING LIFE? They wouldn't DIE. That technique was never supposed to be used by MORTALS. Christians will be embarrassed to learn on Judgment Day, that they could have done so much more- but limited themselves by UNBELIEF. frosbel2: THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE TERM "REVIVAL" WAS A SPONTANEOUS SUDDEN MASS-REPENTANCE OF ENTIRE CITIES, PROVINCES, STATES, OR NATIONS- UNATTRIBUTABLE TO PREACHING. They would be initiated by PRAYER. PRAYERS can bring about Repentance in the most hardened Anti-Religious idiots. However, such Conversions have HORRIBLE CONSEQUENCES. REVIVALISM has been employed in ENGLAND and AMERICA- see them NOW. There was a great Revival in INDONESIA, in 1965. People we're converted spontaneously, and then were immediately directed by audible Voice of The Spirit of God, to go out and preach, working Biblical-Class Miracles. Last I heard, Indonesia became overrun by RADICAL ISLAM. Christianity can no longer be practiced freely. If the Conversion does not come from the Converts, the result is... ugly. frosbel2: YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, DO YOU? . MATTHEW 18:1-9. AT the same time came the Disciples unto Jesus, saying, "Who is the greatest in The Kingdom of Heaven?" 2. And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3. And Said, "Verily I Say unto you, 'EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED, AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' 4. "Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in The Kingdom of Heaven. 5. "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my Name receiveth me. 6. "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the Depth of the Sea. 7. "Woe unto the World because of Offences! For it must needs be that Offences come; but woe to that man by whom the Offence cometh! 8. "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into Everlasting Fire. 9. "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into Hell Fire." THOSE CHRISTIANS WILLING TO LITERALLY SACRIFICE THEIR BODY PARTS TO KEEP FROM SIN, SHOULD FIND THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO The Man credited with compiling the Roman Catholic Bible- ORIGEN ADAMANTIUS- reputedly castrated himself. So many emulated him, that a Pope had to forbid it. A 60 year old Pastor recently did it. I personally think it was too late for him. . DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. ALL The Commandments Which I Command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in to and possess the land which The LORD Sware unto your fathers. 2. And thou shalt remember all the Way which The LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His Commandments, or no. 3. And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with Manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that "MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE." 4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell, these forty years. 5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, "THAT, AS A MAN CHASTENETH HIS SON, SO THE LORD THY GOD CHASTENETH THEE." 6. Therefore thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him. . MATTHEW 17:14-21. 14. And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, 15. "Lord, have Mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. 16. "And I brought him to thy Disciples, and they could not cure him." 17. Then Jesus answered and Said, "O Faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I suffer you? Bring him hither to me." 18. And Jesus rebuked the Devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. 19. Then came the Disciples to Jesus apart, and said, "Why could not we cast him out?" 20. And Jesus Said unto them, "Because of your unbelief: for verily I Say unto you, 'IF YE HAVE FAITH AS A GRAIN OF MUSTARD SEED, YE SHALL SAY UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN, "REMOVE HENCE TO YONDER PLACE;" AND IT SHALL REMOVE; AND NOTHING SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE UNTO YOU.' 21 "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by Prayer and Fasting." THERE ARE FOUR ENERGY-SOURCES FOR THE HUMAN BODY- CARBOHYDRATES, LIPIDS, PROTEIN, AND SPIRITUAL POWER. The use of Spiritual Power to energize the Physical Body is an ADVANCED Technique, but THE SECRET OF SIN is that SINFUL DESIRE IS DRIVEN BY CARBOHYDRATES. It takes 72 hours of Fasting to deplete Carbohydrates from the Body. Once one has done this, one finds that one's SINFUL DESIRES are NO LONGER ACTIVE- their Power Source has been cut off TEN DAYS are recommended for LASTING RESULTS, so that, when one resumes eating, one retains control of one's Flesh. Latter 20th Century Oyinbo Churches had ONE MAJOR TEACHER OF FASTING- FRANKLIN CAREY HALL- who was a member of the Pentecostal Alliance called THE VOICE OF HEALING. His Teaching started the T.L. OSBORN Ministry. After a while, it was decided that he was a HERETIC, and his Fasting Teaching was HIDDEN from their followers. Preachers get their Riches from SINNERS, driven by GUILT. If Christians no longer committed Sin, they would no longer need those "Pastors." Therefore, they were not taught "THE FAST WAY," (*Geshundeit!* Sorry- could not resist!) to ESCAPE SIN PERMANENTLY. frosbel2: THE POST-WORLD WAR II PENTECOSTAL REVIVAL BROUGHT ABOUT AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF CHRISTIAN HEALINGS, AS PROPHESIED BY LORD YESHUA. You have to be really ignorant not to know about them. Even BILLY GRAHAM, an EVANGELICAL BAPTIST Preacher, who OPPOSED Miracle Healing as "FANATICISM," had a BLIND "JEWESS" Healed spontaneously in one of his meetings, when ISAIAH 53 was read out in HEBREW. He downplayed the Miracle, mildly remarking: "IT SEEMS ISAIAH 53 HAS MORE IN IT, THAN WHAT MOST OF US GOT OUT OF IT!" Every type of Miracle Healing Lord Yeshua performed has been duplicated by Modern Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians. Research: SMITH WIGGLESWORTH. KENNETH E. HAGIN. FRANKLIN HALL. T.L. OSBORN. A.A ALLEN. WILLIAM BRANHAM. ORAL ROBERTS. KENNETH COPELAND. RAY MacCAULEY. REINHARD BONNKE. To name the prominent ones. frosbel2: YOU ARE VERY STUPID! Which Churches did you go, where such was ATTEMPTED? Why can't you name them? Lady raised from the Dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAZKTtY3D8 Boy raised from the Dead after 24 hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyO7QWYeFTE Man raised- Pakistan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr87oNY6TA Woman dead for 7 days Raised by Timothy Omotoso. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrbIXBkD4o frosbel2: YOU ARE VERY STUPID! Where have you seen Christians attempt to Cast Out Devils, and FAIL? FOOLS presume that Lord Jesus was just Healing people at random, but all the people he Healed personally we're ISRAELITES who ALREADY BELIEVED IN GOD. Only ONCE did he Heal a DEVIL-WORSHIPPER- and he could only do that because her mother submitted to The Kingdom of God. These Devil-Worshippers on our Streets, who messed with HALLUCINOGENIC DRUGS, INDIAN AMULETS, and OCCULTIC BOOKS cannot be easily helped, without accepting THE GOSPEL. . MATTHEW 12:41-45. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, b]'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'[/b and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." IT IS THE JOB OF THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS TO BRING THEM TO A HOLY MAN, FOR HEALING. Why would someone pay TITHES to someone who is not HOLY? frosbel2: YOU ARE VERY STUPID! Lord Yeshua will and can only Return, WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD RETURN- NOT when OTHERS said he would Return! . MATTHEW 24:14. 14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a Witness unto all Nations; and then shall The End come." . MATTHEW 24:33-35. 33. "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these Things, know that it is near, even at the Doors. 3DISCIPLES went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18. And Jesus came and Spake unto them, Saying, "All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth. 19. "Go ye therefore, and Teach all Nations, baptizing them in The Name of the Father, and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost: 20. "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have Commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto The End of The World." Amen. LORD YESHUA SAID THAT HE WOULD RETURN SOON AFTER ALL THE SIGNS OF MATTHEW 24 CAME TO PASS AT THE SAME TIME! That has NEVER happened before! LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES REFUSED TO TEACH THE WORLD "ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER" HE HAD COMMANDED THEM TO OBSERVE. They broke his explicit Commandment, to tell no man that HE was THE CHRIST. From THERE, the CORRUPTION set in, and Lord Yeshua could not Return, when his Followers do not control the Earth. [(2 of 2) Concluded.] |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by Nobody: 10:54am On Mar 09, 2020 |
oaroloye: Thank you for showing us the beautiful mind of Christ - Next time don’t spill out the BS you crammed from the bible, just address the points I raised. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by objectivechrist: 12:43pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
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Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 2:57pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
SHALOM! ichuka: . JOHN 17:20-23. 20. "Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their Word; 21. "That they all may be One; as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be One in us: that the World may believe that Thou hast sent me. 22. "And the Glory Which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be One, even as we are One: 23. "I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made Perfect in One; and that the World may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me." ichuka: . JOB 28:28. 28. "And unto Man He Said, 'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD, THAT IS WISDOM; AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL, IS UNDERSTANDING.' " . PSALM 111:10. 10. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Wisdom: a Good Understanding have all they that do His Commandments: His Praise endureth for ever. . PROVERBS 1:7. 7. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Knowledge: but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction. . PROVERBS 9:10. 10. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Wisdom: and The Knowledge of The Holy is Understanding. . ISAIAH 55:6-11. 6. Seek ye The LORD, while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near. 7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way, and the Unrighteous Man his Thoughts: and let him return unto The LORD, and He will have Mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. 8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS (ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS MY WAYS," saith The LORD. 9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS. 10. "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from Heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the Sower, and bread to the Eater: 11. "So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but It shall accomplish that which I please, and It shall prosper (in the thing) whereto I sent It." . DANIEL 12:10. 10. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried: but the Wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the Wicked shall Understand; but the Wise shall Understand. lepasharon: ONLY THOSE WHO FEAR GOD ARE WISE; ONLY THOSE WHO DEPART FROM EVIL AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS HAVE UNDERSTANDING. To despise The Word of God is to Seal your Doom: YOUR SOUL IS FORFEIT. ichuka: . JOHN 3:1-21. THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a Ruler of the Jews: 2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, "Rabbi, we know that thou art a Teacher come from God: for no man can do these Miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." 3. Jesus answered and Said unto him, "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 4. Nicodemus saith unto him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" 5. Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 6. "That which is Born of the Flesh is flesh; and that which is Born of The Spirit is spirit. 7. "Marvel not that I Said unto thee, 'YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.' 8. "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is Born of The Spirit." 9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, "How can these things be?" 10. Jesus answered and Said unto him, "Art thou a Master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11. "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'WE SPEAK THAT WE DO KNOW, AND TESTIFY THAT WE HAVE SEEN; AND YE RECEIVE NOT OUR WITNESS.' 12. "If I have told you Earthly Things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of Heavenly Things? 13. "And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but he that came down from Heaven, even The Son of Man which is in Heaven. 14. "And as Moses lifted up the Serpent in the Wilderness, even so must The Son of Man be lifted up: 15. "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have Eternal Life. 16. "For God so loved the World, that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not Perish, but have Everlasting Life. 17. "For God sent not His Son into the World to Condemn the World; but that the World through him might be Saved. 18. "He that believeth in him is not Condemned: but he that believeth not is Condemned Already, because he hath not believed in The Name of The Only Begotten Son of God. 19. "And this is The Condemnation, 'THAT LIGHT IS COME INTO THE WORLD, AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT, BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS WERE EVIL.' 20. "For every one that doeth Evil hateth The Light, neither cometh to The Light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light, that his deeds may be manifest, that they are wrought in God." "BORN AGAIN" IN NORTHERN ARAMAIC MEANS: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS." NICODEMUS SPOKE SOUTHERN ARAMAIC, AND HENCE DID NOT UNDERSTAND JESUS. [Footnote to JOHN 3:3,5 in the Lamsa Peshitta Bible.] IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN, YOU CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD. . MARK 1:14-15. 14. Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching The Gospel of the Kingdom of God, 15. And Saying, "The time is fulfilled, and The Kingdom of God is at hand: Repent ye, and believe The Gospel." . MATTHEW 5:1-3. AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him: 2. And he opened his mouth, and Taught them, Saying, 3. "Blessed are the Poor in Spirit: for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven." .. MATTHEW 5:16-20. 16. "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your Good Works, and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven. 17. "Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or The Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18. "For verily I Say unto you, 'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.' 19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of Heaven. 20. "For I Say unto you, 'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' " The Servant of God must eliminate their SubConscious Reactive Mind by recovering their Lost and Suppressed Memories of Mental Error (Engram's), going back to the time before their birth. This is a serious undertaking, that takes up to a year to accomplish. Before one is done with it, one will learn that some things we are taught by the Oyinbos, about our Minds were lies, designed to keep us in bondage. [See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard.] Whereas, Prophet Moses and Lord Yeshua taught that the average Human- i.e. Sinner- is only able to use 10% of their Mental Ability, and how to recover our Lost Consciousness, the Oyinbos have deliberately covered up this Knowledge, so that we should all die without it. Even their Christian Churches suppress the Knowledge. If you reject Genuine Truth, judging It by the Counterfeits, it is your own fault. It was the Duty of your own Family to have taught you how to find God. If they didn't do it, no one sympathizes with you, to excuse you. You are condemned already. frosbel2: oaroloye: frosbel2: oaroloye: frosbel2: oaroloye: frosbel2: oaroloye: frosbel2: oaroloye: WHAT GREATER PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS THERE, THAN THE RAISING OF THE DEAD? Would an INTELLIGENT person not STUDY to prove how THEY could do that themselves, rather than try to prove whether or not someone else did it? . JOHN 14:12. 12. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; AND GREATER WORKS THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.' God offered you His Great Power- and, instead of expressing gratitude, you instead try to pee on it! What does that say about you? Who do you think you are? |
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Save or Heal You by oaroloye(m): 5:03pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
ATHEISM IS AN ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER! frosbel2: oaroloye: When Devils are cast out without adequate follow-up, their cases can become worse. Being Delivered from Devils does not make one a Worshipper of GOD. The same Principle applies to Healing Unbelievers. Just because one is Healed from Sickness, that does not make one a Christian. . JOHN 5:1-14. After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 2. Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep (market) a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches. 3. In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. 4. For an Angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had. 5. And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years. 6. When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time (in that case), he Saith unto him, "Wilt thou be made whole?" 7. The impotent man answered him, "Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me." 8. Jesus Saith unto him, "Rise, take up thy bed, and walk." 9. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the Sabbath. 10. The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, "It is the Sabbath Day: it is not lawful for thee to carry( thy) bed." 11. He answered them, "He that made me whole, the same said unto me, 'TAKE UP THY BED, AND WALK.' " 12. Then asked they him, "What man is that which said unto thee, 'TAKE UP THY BED, AND WALK?' " 13. And he that was Healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in (that) place. 14. Afterward Jesus findeth him in the Temple, and said unto him, "Behold, thou art made whole: Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." TELLING A GENTILE TO "SIN TO MORE" IS USUALLY USELESS, BECAUSE GENTILES INVARIABLY SPEND THEIR TEENAGE YEARS DOING THE OPPOSITE OF LEARNING SELF-CONTROL- AS THE ISRAELITES WERE COMMANDED. frosbel2: oaroloye: frosbel2: UNBELIEVERS AND HYPOCRITES THINK THAT LORD YESHUA WAS SOME SORT OF WIMP, WHO WENT IN SOME SORT OF SELF-EFFACING, APOLOGETIC MANNER, BEGGING PEOPLE TO PLEASE ACCEPT HIS MESSAGE. The Kingdom of Heaven is NOT A DEMOCRACY! God is NOT begging you for your "VOTES!" Either you get with HIS Programme, or you go to HELL, or WORSE! If you die without TOTAL RECALL, your SOUL will be DESTROYED IMMEDIATELY, and FED to THE DEVILS- who tear it apart in the process of extracting its last life energies. If you attain EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION, you can view that happening to every Creature that dies, including most Humans, of EVERY RELIGION, including CHRISTIANITY, as often as you want. . PROVERBS 26:24-28. 24. He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him; 25. When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for (there are) seven Abominations in his heart. 26. (Whose) hatred is covered by Deceit, his Wickedness shall be shewed before the (whole) Congregation. 27. Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him. 28. A lying tongue hateth (those that are) afflicted by it; and a Flattering Mouth worketh Ruin. IF YOU SPEAK HONESTLY AND WISELY, WHO WILL NOT COMMEND YOU? But when you speak DISHONESTLY and STUPIDLY, only your ENEMIES, who HATE you, will not tell you THE TRUTH! frosbel2: EVERY BIBLE PASSAGE I QUOTE, IN ALL OF MY POSTS, IS ALWAYS RELEVANT, AND ADDRESSES THE ISSUES RAISED. You cannot show a single place where I have quoted Scripture, and it was irrelevant, in the years of my TOPICS and POSTS. To show your STUPIDITY, you only quote my objectionable remarks, while omitting the very sound reasons for them that were stated, in order to make me look bad. . DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16. 13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. 14. Thou shalt not have in thine house divers measures, a great and a small. 15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the Land which The LORD thy God giveth thee. 16. For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an Abomination unto the LORD thy God. THIS IS WHY YOU CAN NEVER FIND GOD. You pretended that my Scriptural Quotations did not answer your every point, as well as my painstaking explanations that overestimated your Intelligence Quotient. |
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