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Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Hotfreez: 11:36pm On Mar 20, 2020
jamesid29:
Why would you bring someone's children into this, just why.... why would it even occur to you, sir what is wrong with you.
And what is wrong with you too? If what First bank did to the OP is okay, why are you whining about doing same to his kids? Is the OP not someone's child? Was he downloaded?

When some of you guys see the possibility of First bank doing the same thing to your loved ones, maybe you'll start having sense.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 11:51pm On Mar 20, 2020
Unclesamo:
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Most of The Trolls here were sent by First Bank..... Don't Relent
That completely got us shocked. Imagine the kind of service one of the persons (GhostPr) they sent after us provides shocked
We can never afford his service

Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 11:54pm On Mar 20, 2020
Goodgod213:
At first bank Ojodu do you know the staff were talking about your thread. Like seriously people are already knowing about this oo. Better take this a step up o
We will do our best as we are believing God to bring more helpers our way.
Thank you for getting our back sir.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 11:56pm On Mar 20, 2020
Hotfreez:
That is because their customers are telling them to their faces that they are thieves and First bank lacks integrity. If the staff try to argue and defend First bank, they refer them to this thread. See the post someone posted earlier, First bank has fired the top creative guys in the Bank and want to recruit new ones. They are panicking.

The day we would list all the robberies in First Bank is still coming. The last one in Abuja had staff involvement with a staff arrested. The week before that, they arrested some in Ibadan who said the Manager of the branch somewhere in Ekiti was their informant. A few weeks ago, they arrested another set of robbers who also pointed out their informant as a First bank staff. There is currently a crisis of integrity at First Bank from their MD who used the stolen logo to write as well as the lowest staff. Customers are becoming afraid.

The day this OP petitions the National Assembly and they invite the top guys at First bank to come explain this issue of dishonesty, with live coverage by AIT, Channels and TVC, that's when they would understand what hit them.

As for me, I've been referring people to this thread. Only a fool would read this thread and keep money in First bank. They definitely do not have integrity in that den of thieves
Your valuable guidance is well noted sir. Thank you sir.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 11:59pm On Mar 20, 2020
Hotfreez:
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May your children work for people and those they work for treat them the way First bank treated this man.
It's not a curse sir. Even God said  "I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations. All those mocking us in this our moment of difficulty will reap what they sow.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op):
jamesid29:
Why would you bring someone's children into this, just why.... why would it even occur to you, sir what is wrong with you.
Even Jide Aboderin, the proud silverspoon grandson of the late Chief Aboderin,founder of the Punch newspaper,who had been trolling and bullying us online using same derogatory and condescending words on us like you, went berserk when her daughter's name was mentioned in this link
https://www.nairaland.com/750392/r-b-singer-mo-cheddah

They guide and protect their own children but inflict pain and pack hot coal on other people's children. How do you think that someday your own children will not be doomed too? In life, you reap what you sow so sow good seeds today for yourself and those children you guide jealously at the expense of the joy of another person's child.
All your children will reap what you are doing today sir.

Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 12:12am On Mar 21, 2020
lastempero:
I understand the main target now is to get your money but seriously this method you are using might not get the desired result. You have to involve one of this big human right lawyers even if it means striking a deal with them and meet the legal arm of the bank and discuss the issue with them, you can take it up from there depending on the outcome and instead of nairaland, go for this nationwide read newspapers and do the necessary. Nairaland will not give you the desired coverage and result u want.
Notes sir. Thank you sir.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 12:14am On Mar 21, 2020
bcashy:
With this alone, i will make sure i close down my first bank account immediately, persuade my family and friends to do same!

Bro, push on, this can happen to anybody!

My uncle , a small brand like yours too uses first bank to pay his employees, i will show him this and persuade him to move to any other bank immediately!
Thank you for having our back sir.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 12:17am On Mar 21, 2020
Hotfreez:
And what is wrong with you too? If what First bank did to the OP is okay, why are you whining about doing same to his kids? Is the OP not someone's child? Was he downloaded?

When some of you guys see the possibility of First bank doing the same thing to your loved ones, maybe you'll start having sense.
Thank you sir. They love their own children it is another person's child that they want to see suffer. Very inconsiderate of them to deny us and our own children food and go berserk when reminded that they have children too o.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op):
They're sharing gifts with the logo we designed for their 125th Anniversary logo yet we that designed the logo of big brand First Bank is yet to be paid.

First is the picture of the MD of First Bank Plc ,Mr Adeduntan,presenting a gift to Senator Alasoadura with our logo that is yet to be paid for displayed on the gift pack
https://m.facebook.com/firstbankofnigeria/photos/a.235218466508282/3261555243874574/?type=3

Second picture shows the winners of a competition sponsored by First Bank Plc and our created logo for their 125th Anniversary displayed conspicuously on the stage. https://marketingworldmag.net/winners-2019-firstbank-sponsored-national-company-year-competition-contest-africa-company-year-competition/

Third picture , Head, Marketing and Corporate Communications,Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney right in the centre flanked by top blogger Linda Ikeji and other celebrities at event sponsored by First Bank Plc and the logo of big brand First Bank we designed displayed as background on their red carpet smiling.
Yet we have not been paid a dime. https://www.dliri.com/curator/publisher/87/genevieve-magazine

Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Greenarrow01(m): 2:26am On Mar 21, 2020
Hotfreez:
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May your children work for people and those they work for treat them the way First bank treated this man.
You need help... Seek it.
I return those prayers back to you.. may you face more problems than what the op is facing.
Since you can't see that I wasn't supporting FBN.. I was only concern about how OP can get his money out from them
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Greenarrow01(m): 3:08am On Mar 21, 2020
I will state clearly again my position on this... Pls nobody should mention me again.

Firstly, way before the Sahara reporters video, when op didn't give out much info,
my opinion then was that, he did designed and added the logo images to the iPad covers, and FBN uplifted the logo design, which of course is wrong

But all through this issue,
The only thing I have been saying all this while, is that the OP should meet FBN legal team and hear what they have to say, I suggested him taking lawyers, journalist, recording devices along, so he could get hardcore evidence, no one else made this suggestion
It still baffles me that some people will think I support FBN even with the above point.

I was and only concern about his money and his brand... No one here seems to be concerned about that.
Clearly, no one here is concerned about that,
The ops startup does not end or start with FBN, there are still other contracts out there to be won,
So I kept hammering the advice of meeting the legal dept, instead of creating this thread only because of the negative pr, this will bring to his brand. People will know of the brand, but will top jobs want to give him jobs with all this public show. This was and is still my position.
I am only concerned about him getting his money and without damaging his prospect of getting better and bigger jobs with other brands..

I wasn't the only one that suggested this.

At no point in time did my opinion alligned with any of those trolls...

I have clearly stated
That I have passed through similar thing with what ops is passing through.
I had to wait for 6 months to get paid, with a brand way more bigger than FBN.

So for those attacking me, pls and pls take a step back, read, understand and know that this is clearly my position on what the op is going through.
Ejo pls no one should quote me again
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by jeyselassie(m): 4:51am On Mar 21, 2020
I've carefully examined this topic and I'm really shocked. Not even one response from first bank. I need to move my employees account to gtb after all if I truly look back I haven't gotten any additional financial service after 10yrs of banking with them. They have never even approached me for a loan and I don't owe them anything. The country is hard enough on start-ups trying to survive and financial institutions shouldn't make it harder.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by bcashy: 8:34am On Mar 21, 2020
jeyselassie:
I've carefully examined this topic and I'm really shocked. Not even one response from first bank. I need to move my employees account to gtb after all if I truly look back I haven't gotten any additional financial service after 10yrs of banking with them. They have never even approached me for a loan and I don't owe them anything. The country is hard enough on start-ups trying to survive and financial institutions shouldn't make it harder.
God bless you, we can do this!


I just spoke with my uncle on this...no doubt he is moving his employees salary account out of FBN.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by chumakk: 10:38am On Mar 21, 2020
Take it to twitter
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by bcashy: 10:43am On Mar 21, 2020
Greenarrow01:
I will state clearly again my position on this... Pls nobody should mention me again.

Firstly, way before the Sahara reporters video, when op didn't give out much info,
my opinion then was that, he did designed and added the logo images to the iPad covers, and FBN uplifted the logo design, which of course is wrong

But all through this issue,
The only thing I have been saying all this while, is that the OP should meet FBN legal team and hear what they have to say, I suggested him taking lawyers, journalist, recording devices along, so he could get hardcore evidence, no one else made this suggestion
It still baffles me that some people will think I support FBN even with the above point.

I was and only concern about his money and his brand... No one here seems to be concerned about that.
Clearly, no one here is concerned about that,
The ops startup does not end or start with FBN, there are still other contracts out there to be won,
So I kept hammering the advice of meeting the legal dept, instead of creating this thread only because of the negative pr, this will bring to his brand. People will know of the brand, but will top jobs want to give him jobs with all this public show. This was and is still my position.
I am only concerned about him getting his money and without damaging his prospect of getting better and bigger jobs with other brands..

I wasn't the only one that suggested this.

At no point in time did my opinion alligned with any of those trolls...

I have clearly stated
That I have passed through similar thing with what ops is passing through.
I had to wait for 6 months to get paid, with a brand way more bigger than FBN.

So for those attacking me, pls and pls take a step back, read, understand and know that this is clearly my position on what the op is going through.
Ejo pls no one should quote me again
undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by olalekan9320(m): 11:03am On Mar 21, 2020
chumakk:
Take it to twitter
Op have you done this too
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by jamesid29(m): 5:52pm On Mar 21, 2020
xtremecr8:
Even Jide Aboderin, the proud silverspoon grandson of the late Chief Aboderin,founder of the Punch newspaper,who had been trolling and bullying us online using same derogatory and condescending words on us like you, went berserk when her daughter's name was mentioned in this link
https://www.nairaland.com/750392/r-b-singer-mo-cheddah
So sir,I'm guessing you are ok with someone saying they would cut off a little girl's fingers and feed it to her and that her father would mourn her, or you just want to conveniently leave that part out just the same way you conveniently looked the other way when someone said the people who died in the recent Lagos explosion deserved it just because the person is sympathetic to your cause.

I don't know if you have always been like this or if it's this experience that has changed you but either way sir, you have let envy and hatred cloud your heart to the point you are willing to cross any lines as long as you can hold on to your victim status and public sympathy.

They guide and protect their own children but inflict pain and pack hot coal on other people's children. How do you think that someday your own children will not be doomed too? In life, you reap what you sow so sow good seeds today for yourself and those children you guide jealously at the expense of the joy of another person's child.
All your children will reap what you are doing today sir.
That's the prayer sir, I hope someday someone will stand up for my children and give them the benefit of doubt in the day they cannot standup for themselves for whatever reason.

The one who knows the heart of all men know I have nothing to profit from fbn, I do not even have an acc with them because I found their customer relations to be very poor. I do not know Mrs Ani-Mumuney or jide aboderin, never met them ,never heard of them until this thread and would most likely walk pass them in a crowd as I don't know what they look like in person.
But at the end of the day what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. You have decided to persecute fbn in the court of public opinion where you know they cannot defend themselves. Even if we remove any banking regulations that might hinder them from engaging in a social media battle, because of their sheer size, it would be easy for you to play the victim and claim bullying. We have seen you do it here to anybody who has tried to question your version of the story without any malicious intent and tried to get a fuller picture of what happened. You have labelled us trolls, bullies and slaves to our corporate masters. How much more if it's fbn as an entity that engages you. You have kicked up dust on nairaland, Twitter and even written to nse but have deliberately avoided the one place where facts from both sides actually matter. To even meet their legal department to hear what their defense is or just what they have to say, you have blatantly refused ,which leads one to ask where you also are in the wrong in all this . Even in your entire sm charade, you have failed to provide real hard evidence of what transpired up to the point of them asking to meet legal. No copies of the original invoice you sent to them for the logo, no email trail of your negotiations with them, no copies of the letters you said you lawyer sent to them when things went south,Nothing really but just your words. And when anyone ask these things,rather than engage this questions,You are always quick to scream that you have not been paid.. That has never been in question, the question has always been why have you not been paid(especially since you've had a prior relationship with them)? You have not given any reason to believe that fbn has denied that you are the original creator of the logo, matter of fact, you have stated that you were offered an amount for it.
Was there a gentleman's agreement on this amount by reason of your vendor contract with them but after seeing how widespread they were using the logo, you decided to ask for a higher amount which led to them referring you to their legal department? How did they get the raw files to the logo in the first place, because they wouldn't have been able to use the logo on so many different scales if all you gave them was the tiny logo on the pad. you have not given us any indication that they got someone else to recreate the exact logo you gave them. This and many more questions abound but rather than answering them and going to the one place you can proof you case with facts, you are always quick to ignore this questions and scream you are being bullied and say you have not been paid.
You probably also know that it's not in fbn's best interest to sue you for defamation because you can easily come back online and scream intimidation and how they are trying to silence you.
Is fbn blameless in this case, NO, at the very least someone or some people in fbn jumped the gun and authorized a logo that it's payment had not been finalized. But you are also not blameless and your strategy is to hid behind public sympathy and force fbn to bow to your demands by effectively taking away the one avenue they have to say their own side of the story. The fact that you have been using name calling, deflection and Intentionally constructing one sided narratives against people who have questioned you to make them look bad is also quite telling of your motive and character sir.

Strive Masiyiwa that you mentioned has never run an online smear campaign, he fights his battles in court the right way. And even those he doesn't go to court for but he is telling the stories so others can learn, he usually doesn't mention the name of the other party involved as the focus is learning from mistakes. So please sir, don't compare what you're doing to what he has done.

Since you're fond of using God to make your cause sound righteous, I'll leave you with one of His words as a reminder to both of us:
"I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds."
Jeremiah 17:10 ESV
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by ubiquitousade(m): 7:04pm On Mar 21, 2020
jamesid29:
We have seen you do it here to anybody who has tried to question your version of the story without any malicious intent and tried to get a fuller picture of what happened. You have labelled us trolls, bullies and slaves to our corporate masters.
This is quite apparent if throughout the thread from the beginning.

jamesid29:
To even meet their legal department to hear what their defense is or just what they have to say, you have blatantly refused ,which leads one to ask where you also are in the wrong in all this .
Am surprised OP has not done this.

jamesid29:
Even in your entire sm charade, you have failed to provide real hard evidence of what transpired up to the point of them asking to meet legal. No copies of the original invoice you sent to them for the logo, no email trail of your negotiations with them, no copies of the letters you said you lawyer sent to them when things went south,Nothing really but just your words. And when anyone ask these things,rather than engage this questions,You are always quick to scream that you have not been paid..
I hope OP can listen to you.

As a matter of fact, I expected OP to be updating this thread with other steps he has been taking to get his money. But I also understand he might not want to reveal too much information.

jamesid29:
That has never been in question, the question has always been why have you not been paid (especially since you've had a prior relationship with them)?

You have not given any reason to believe that fbn has denied that you are the original creator of the logo, matter of fact, you have stated that you were offered an amount for it.

Was there a gentleman's agreement on this amount by reason of your vendor contract with them but after seeing how widespread they were using the logo, you decided to ask for a higher amount which led to them referring you to their legal department?

How did they get the raw files to the logo in the first place, because they wouldn't have been able to use the logo on so many different scales if all you gave them was the tiny logo on the pad. you have not given us any indication that they got someone else to recreate the exact logo you gave them.

This and many more questions abound but rather than answering them and going to the one place you can proof you case with facts, you are always quick to ignore this questions and scream you are being bullied and say you have not been paid.
OP should at least answer some questions here.

jamesid29:
But you are also not blameless and your strategy is to hid behind public sympathy and force fbn to bow to your demands by effectively taking away the one avenue they have to say their own side of the story.
jamesid29:
The fact that you have been using name calling, deflection and Intentionally constructing one sided narratives against people who have questioned you to make them look bad is also quite telling of your motive and character sir.
OP needs to stop this.

I'll advise OP to read this thread from the beginning, check the previous suggestions without crucifying the messenger or labeling them trolls of FBN.

OP, I wish you get justice.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 7:42pm On Mar 21, 2020
ubiquitousade:
This is quite apparent if throughout the thread from the beginning.


Am surprised OP has not done this.



I hope OP can listen to you.

As a matter of fact, I expected OP to be updating this thread with other steps he has been taking to get his money. But I also understand he might not want to reveal too much information.



OP should at least answer some questions here.





OP needs to stop this.

I'll advise OP to read this thread from the beginning, check the previous suggestions without crucifying the messenger or labeling them trolls of FBN.

OP, I wish you get justice.
Thank you sir. These trolls were unleashed at the same time and they do the bullying, cursed us, mocked us and write the same thing. We have an idea of the discussion going on from FBN end and these particular monikers are saying it exactly the way FBN top management who spearheaded the use of our logo behind us are saying it when queried about their unjust actions.That's what some people here don't know and what struck us about these faceless monikers. We had to completely read their comments again. Please go through the thread to confirm. They all came in this thread at the same time and those two remaining are those left among most of the trolls and their now trying to sound diplomatic now changed their style after we exposed them and we will do our best to get the identity of these remaining troll of jamesid and the other one. They are all trolls working together. We were not told before they lifted our logo , used it and still didn't pay us. We wrote to them and their legal unit requested for the sample and that was it for months now.
They were goading us to go to court so we can drag case together for years and we said No.
We worked hard to create that logo and begging for our money to survive is really humiliating but sending trolls like these different monikers is the lowest by FBN in our estimatimation.
These characters have the ears of those same people who held on to our money and wants to kill our brand.
We deserve to be paid for our hardwork designing their 125th Year anniversary logo and we will remain resolute.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by ubiquitousade(m): 9:20pm On Mar 21, 2020
xtremecr8:
We wrote to them and their legal unit requested for the sample and that was it for months now.
Wait here. Have you been sharing correspondence with the legal unit prior to the time your are reffered to them by that lady in the mail you shared or after the mail?


xtremecr8:
They were goading us to go to court so we can drag case together for years and we said No.
So you met with the legal unit?

xtremecr8:
We worked hard to create that logo and begging for our money to survive is really humiliating but sending trolls like these different monikers is the lowest by FBN in our estimatimation.
We deserve to be paid for our hardwork designing their 125th Year anniversary logo and we will remain resolute.
Begging in itself is humiliating, not to talk of begging for what belongs to you.

I have been following this thread since the early days but only decide to comment now.

You need evidences on a forum like this or any of your channels or anywhere to sway people to act.

We are only here reading your side of the story, we haven't heard that of FBN, which I don't think they will provide.

So it is normal for a rational, unbiased person to ask questions to get further proofs of your allegations.

What are your evidences you may ask?

Information that won't give your trade secret away but will show clearly that you started the logo (with their approval), finished it, delivered it to them and you requested for your payment and they blatantly told you to go to hell.

This is my suggestion xtremecr8, gather your evidences (email correspondence, messages , payment history between your business and FBN, invoices etc) and take it to newspaper houses. And like someone suggested, take it to the Senate.

Decisions in this case are made based on facts and evidences. Men and women of honor you are looking for will only respond when you provide these evidences. If not, this campaign will continue for as long as you don't provide them.

I do hope you get your money and justice.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op):
ubiquitousade:
Wait here. Have you been sharing correspondence with the legal unit prior to the time your are reffered to them by that lady in the mail you shared or after the mail?




So you met with the legal unit?



Begging in itself is humiliating, not to talk of begging for what belongs to you.

I have been following this thread since the early days but only decide to comment now.

You need evidences on a forum like this or any of your channels or anywhere to sway people to act.

We are only here reading your side of the story, we haven't heard that of FBN, which I don't think they will provide.

So it is normal for a rational, unbiased person to ask questions to get further proofs of your allegations.

What are your evidences you may ask?

Information that won't give your trade secret away but will show clearly that you started the logo (with their approval), finished it, delivered it to them and you requested for your payment and they blatantly told you to go to hell.

This is my suggestion xtremecr8, gather your evidences (email correspondence, messages , payment history between your business and FBN, invoices etc) and take it to newspaper houses. And like someone suggested, take it to the Senate.

Decisions in this case are made based on facts and evidences. Men and women of honor you are looking for will only respond when you provide these evidences. If not, this campaign will continue for as long as you don't provide them.

I do hope you get your money and justice.
Thank you for the follow up sir. One thing we decided to do and had consistently followed through is that we have been completely transparent and opened ourselves to public scrutiny.
Unlike the trolls,we have not hidden our identity, face or contact. We are real people with family, flesh and blood. The issues you raised have been sufficiently addressed in our video interview on Saharareporters and we recommend you listen to and watch the video as it appears from your enquiry that you have not watched the video sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

To the main issue,the questions are:
Are we not supposed to be paid for all our hardwork of designing their 125th Year anniversary logo?
Why would they use our design without our permission behind us?
Why would big brand First Bank want to kill us as a small brand?
Why should we go through this suffering to get paid for designing the logo for big brand First Bank?
We deserve to be paid for our hardwork and we will remain resolute in our demand so we won't die of hunger. We want to get paid for designing the logo of big brand First Bank Plc for its 125th Year anniversary celebrations.
They have been reacting if you read the comments of the trolls on this thread and their ongoing recruitment into the key offices in the unit that we submitted our works to.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by sexylassie(f): 8:04am On Mar 22, 2020
I like what you are doing.

IP thief is real in Nigeria.

I am watching to see how it goes.

I think this should be a lesson to you that contract is important in every dealings here in Nigeria.

Forget the trolls

It seems your effort is working.

Anyway, people should pay for services rendered no matter how small or big the deal is.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Niseed(m): 11:48am On Mar 22, 2020
@ OP the logo on the Sahara video used on the stationary is Gold while the one used by FBN is in colour.

Did you make the adjustments and hand over the creatives/files to them or did FBN replicate it and added the colours using another graphic artist.

Why do you avoid addressing the question whenever you are asked about invoices and cost of the logo?
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 4:11pm On Mar 22, 2020
Niseed:
@ OP the logo on the Sahara video used on the stationary is Gold while the one used by FBN is in colour.

Did you make the adjustments and hand over the creatives/files to them or did FBN replicate it and added the colours using another graphic artist.

Why do you avoid addressing the question whenever you are asked about invoices and cost of the logo?
Hmmm. Are these the 'new' reasons why we were not paid yet they kept on using our creative work?
You have asked this same question repeatedly and it's obvious you didn't pay attention to the response we gave you or just conveniently ignored it sir. Our issue is not about these 'new' reasons you are suggesting, the issue is that they are suggesting that because they asked us to print few iPad covers, it gives them the reason not to pay us for the logo we created and designed for their 125th Year Anniversary celebrations.
They found the logo so irresistible that they requested that we print it on the job for which they paid. Our problem now is that they didn't pay us for the logo even after we invoiced them.
We are in serious difficulty because of the failure of big brand First Bank to pay us and we reject the suggestion that they paid us to print few iPad covers is now payment for our hardwork of creating and designing FBN's 125th Year anniversary logo.

Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 9:20pm On Mar 22, 2020
Nigeria Stock Exchange rules book.
FBN Holdings Plc is a penny stock on the Premiun Board of the NSE. It has recently used our logo we created for them for their 125th Year Anniversary celebrations that they're yet to pay us for in its communication with the NSE as seen on the NSE website.
NSE is ignoring these aspect of its own rules until we draw their attention to it.

Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by yusufu16: 8:55am On Mar 23, 2020
This OP is not smart at all.

I will tell you, you will not receive kobo from FBN. You will only waste your money and time on this.

You have not heeded to advice of many experts on this thread.

You better move on.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Burchester: 9:38am On Mar 23, 2020
Up till now no result ?
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op):
yusufu16:
This OP is not smart at all.

I will tell you, you will not receive kobo from FBN. You will only waste your money and time on this.

You have not heeded to advice of many experts on this thread.

You better move on.
Really? Okay sir. Thank you sir. If you know how deeply entrenched these people are and you see the number of people suffering from this issue of IP theft sir, you will see that the bigger picture is more than just one week campaign. This has been the lot of most small brands.
We believe that everything is working together for our good so we won't grow weary.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by xtremecr8(op): 10:30am On Mar 23, 2020
Burchester:
Up till now no result ?
First Bank got in touch with Saharareporters.They didn't deny they have not paid us or that we didn't create the logo.
What we still don't understand is why they want to kill us.
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by Niseed(m): 10:42am On Mar 23, 2020
xtremecr8:
Hmmm. Are these the 'new' reasons why we were not paid yet they kept on using our creative work?
You have asked this same question repeatedly and it's obvious you didn't pay attention to the response we gave you or just conveniently ignored it sir. Our issue is not about these 'new' reasons you are suggesting, the issue is that they are suggesting that because they asked us to print few iPad covers, it gives them the reason not to pay us for the logo we created and designed for their 125th Year Anniversary celebrations.
They found the logo so irresistible that they requested that we print it on the job for which they paid. Our problem now is that they didn't pay us for the logo even after we invoiced them.
We are in serious difficulty because of the failure of big brand First Bank to pay us and we reject the suggestion that they paid us to print few iPad covers is now payment for our hardwork of creating and designing FBN's 125th Year anniversary logo.
You keep deflecting questions for whatever reasons best known to you.

My conclusion is this, you are clearly on a mission to milk this situation for all you can get which is why the truth is not forthcoming from you.

You and I both know that a one off fee for the design of a logo is in the 1000's or hundreds of thousands and certainly not worth the noise you are making. You are only doing this because its First Bank and not a small company or individual that has come to you for a logo design.

I have worked on different well known brands and projects which included the design of logos that were widely used, what normally happens is the vendor is given the contract to print all the merchandise that will be used for the campaign I.e shirts, mugs, calendars etc

You even said they gave you iPad covers to print. Did you get paid for the iPad covers?

You won't say how much was invoiced and neither will you share correspondence so we know if you are truly being cheated.

We all know times are hard and you must be thinking if you sustain the pressure they will finally bow and settle you.

But don't come here and pretend that 1 logo design has crippled your business.

Let's even assume you invoiced N1m for the logo , is it not better to meet with them and renegotiate so your working relationship can continue with them and N1m is surely not going to make an existing vendor burn bridges with a client.

If you are claiming the money owed to you is over N1m then that means you also have an insider that wants a cut and is the one most likely advising you to go this route.

(These are my assumptions since you have not provided details).
Re: How First Bank Did not pay us for designing 125th Year Logo(read FBN's reply) by yeddy99: 11:13am On Mar 23, 2020
OP, please just go to legal dept and hear them out. only then can you really get the true picture. they referred you to that dept. for a reason.
Nobody wants to see you being cheated, but your not going to the legal dept leaves a lot of room of speculative talks.
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