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ubiquitousade:
I think you need to get out of the delusion that trolls are after you on this thread... FAR FROM IT.

Of course, Jide Aboderin and one or two people might be affiliated with First Bank (it's obvious when you read their comment - short and derogatory) but those that really engaged with you don't deserved to be called trolls.

It is also becoming evident that you are not sharing the full story of all that transpire in this situation.

Let me assure you that you may not get better responses and advise than those that has been given earlier from the beginning.

It can be demoralizing to have one's idea stolen, and not get paid for it, so I understand you sense of judgement of situation and interpretation of intentions might be skewed, nevertheless, I will suggest you re-read the whole thread (no offense intended)

Clearly, you have avoided providing answers to some questions, but for clarity, I have posted some obvious questions you neglected to answer.

1) How did they get the raw files to the logo in the first place, because they wouldn't have been able to use the logo on so many different scales if all you gave them was the tiny logo on the pad?

2) @ OP the logo on the Sahara video used on the stationary is Gold while the one used by FBN is in colour.
Did you make the adjustments and hand over the creatives/files to them or did FBN replicate it and added the colours using another graphic artist?

xtremecr8:
Just after Greenarrow01 was exposed he disappeared, suddenly Posaze05 appeared within 2minutes, after being exposed, he disappeared and then ubiquitousade appeared within 2minutes but got him just before he disappeared. Going through the comments of the three monikers, we came to the conclusion that they are all working together and their appearance just after one is exposed and another appears, exposed, disappears before the 3rd one was just a perfect link.
This is how they have been trolling us with different monikers and trying to bully us to give up.
We will remain resolute and keep exposing you all.
We are the victim yet they are still grandstanding after their unethical conduct of using our intellectual property behind us and not paying us.
Wedeserve to get paid for all our hardwork and don t deserve all these humiliating experience.

pman06:
The guy just dey make me laugh since. Have little to no clue about business. You offer a service, your rights get infringed on, and you just move on? Without getting paid for your effort?

This type of things happen, but I like the fact that OP is bringing it out.

I hope FBN do the needful and pay up. But let us know whenever you take it to twitter, some of us are ready to retweet until you trend for a day or two.

AutoReportNG:
This is quite sad and painful, but I hope you are saying the truth here! Are you sure you have an agreement of contract, claim of ownership that this logo was done by you? FirstBank will want to protect its name and if there are some flops on your part, they may sue every penny out of you.

If you have any proof or claim to back this up, I will advice you store them in a cloud storage apart from your system, get it distrubted that you can have access to it.

As someone rightly said, try meet their legal team to know what they have to say, don't just assume yet, give them a fair hearing but it will be good to lawyer at this stage.

If all things fail, try to reach out to TheCable, SaharaReporters, ThePunch or Instablog9ja...

The main point is that, I hope you are saying the truth, hope in your contract there is nothing like this or breach of contract... If not, you have a.good case

xtremecr8:
They are still using the same logo we designed(screenshot of their Twitter page and picture of their MD, Dr. Adeduntan presenting a package, carrying the 125th FBN logo we designed,to Senator Alasoadua are shown below).
We have not being paid yet she Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney sent us to their legal unit.
Every email we send and even enquiry from Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney by everyone we sought their help to intervene, she kept referring us to the legal unit(screenshot of her email reply)
Meanwhile, we can't pay our own bills.
Please help us tweet at them to beg them to pay us.
We are a small brand and admit that we can't match their kind of resources in Nigeria's legal system. We hardly pay our own overheads let alone paying for protracted legal case in Nigerian courts.
We just want to get paid for designing their 125th Anniversary logo. Nothing more, nothing less. We are ready to meet with their account unit not legal because we don't have business with their legal unit.

yusufu16:
I am sorry but this OP is unprofessional.

In any contract, the Legal Department will prepare the contract agreement which will be signed by the two parties. How can you be scared of going to the Legal department. Are they going to kill you? Who knows may be they just wanted you to sign the contract agreement in order to receive your payment. You are here seeking for public sympathy and wishing someone will talk to them to pay you.

It obvious you are only after payment and not the due diligence and process of being paid.

Many people here told you to go to the Legal Unit, which you refused to go for flimsy excuses.

Mark my words, you will not be paid. This is not how to run a business.

You will only waste your time, money and energy.

xtremecr8:
Dear sir, what's unprofessional is stealing people's intellectual property and still grandstanding.
Thank you for trolling us sir. We will be paid and the dishonest person or groups of people who autborized and lifted that logo we designed for FBN's 125th Anniversary celebrations behind us for use without our permission will get punished by God and man.The longer they punish us by denying us payment for our hardwork, the hotter the physical and spiritual coal already on them.We will remain resolute and we assure you that we are the David standing against a bullying Goliath but we shall remain resolute sir.
We worked and we deserve and shall earn our wages.Same for other small brands who have been cheated by big brands.
This is how low we have permitted a few influential but morally indecent people to say our story and allow others see our people through that narrative but we chose to stand up and we will be paid.
That there's no remorse on the part of the people who represents FBN alone in this casecsays a lot about their character. They , and not the bank institution itself, are the people who dragged FBN from that bank we all grew up to admire and respect to become upcoming bank behind the likes of GTBANK and Zenith.
GTBANK didn't owe the people who designed its orange square when it rebranded and same for other banks. There's something these three leading banks are getting right and your arrogance and greed has prevented you from seeing sir; Respect for people and talents.
First Bank is in this unenviable state now because of the flawed character of people like you sir.

xtremecr8:
Dear sir, what's unprofessional is stealing people's intellectual property and still grandstanding.
Thank you for trolling us sir. We will be paid and the dishonest person or groups of people who autborized and lifted that logo we designed for FBN's 125th Anniversary celebrations behind us for use without our permission will get punished by God and man.The longer they punish us by denying us payment for our hardwork, the hotter the physical and spiritual coal already on them.We will remain resolute and we assure you that we are the David standing against a bullying Goliath but we shall remain resolute sir.
We worked and we deserve and shall earn our wages.Same for other small brands who have been cheated by big brands.
This is how low we have permitted a few influential but morally indecent people to say our story and allow others see our people through that narrative but we chose to stand up and we will be paid.
That there's no remorse on the part of the people who represents FBN alone in this casecsays a lot about their character. They , and not the bank institution itself, are the people who dragged FBN from that bank we all grew up to admire and respect to become upcoming bank behind the likes of GTBANK and Zenith.
GTBANK didn't owe the people who designed its orange square when it rebranded and same for other banks. There's something these three leading banks are getting right and your arrogance and greed has prevented you from seeing sir; Respect for people and talents.
First Bank is in this unenviable state now because of the flawed character of people like you sir.

xtremecr8:
While we are still discussing the price, someone inside FBN, who FBN is still protecting, authorized and lifted the logo for use without our permission.
We found out it was being used just like everyone else seeing it in Nigeria and overseas. Instead of grandstanding, even an apology from FBN when we protested could have calmed us down to resolve it without a fuss because we know to ere is human but what we got in return has been threats, online bullying, sarcasm and outright humiliation of us by FBN.
It is that person or groups of people who are powerful inside FBN that brought FBN into this state of disrepute.
It's very shameful to the hardwork and integrity of the founders of the bank.
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching you"

xtremecr8:
While we are still discussing the price, someone inside FBN, who FBN is still protecting, authorized and lifted the logo for use without our permission.
We found out it was being used just like everyone else seeing it in Nigeria and overseas. Instead of grandstanding, even an apology from FBN when we protested could have calmed us down to resolve it without a fuss because we know to ere is human but what we got in return has been threats, online bullying, sarcasm and outright humiliation of us by FBN.
It is that person or groups of people who are powerful inside FBN that brought FBN into this state of disrepute.
It's very shameful to the hardwork and integrity of the founders of the bank.
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching you"

yusufu16:
Now you are talking.

You didnt tell us this one in the beginning.

So I guess they told you to bring sample while still negotiating price.

bcashy:
Its u that is sprewing rubbish! What if they didnt use the logo? Then he will have no reason to ask for payment! But they used the logo!

Is that how u run ur own imaginary business!?

leye4u:
you are speaking trash and rubbish because of the country we have found ourselves, try it with a designer in developed countries and first bank would have had to cough out millions of dollars for using a property that doesn't belong to them as long as they never paid for it

kryptochats:
oga go see the people dem ask you to see first na ! shey dem go kill you ni ? haba! they said come and see legal team you have not gone their to even know why , omo seun go they collect money for advert waiting concern am

glowskillz:
Are we still on this?... Have you met with their so called legal team to hear whatever they had to say?

xtremecr8:
Just after Greenarrow01 was exposed he disappeared, suddenly Posaze05 appeared within 2minutes, after being exposed, he disappeared and then ubiquitousade appeared within 2minutes but got him just before he disappeared. Going through the comments of the three monikers, we came to the conclusion that they are all working together and their appearance just after one is exposed and another appears, exposed, disappears before the 3rd one was just a perfect link.
This is how they have been trolling us with different monikers and trying to bully us to give up.
We will remain resolute and keep exposing you all.
We are the victim yet they are still grandstanding after their unethical conduct of using our intellectual property behind us and not paying us.
Wedeserve to get paid for all our hardwork and don t deserve all these humiliating experience.

Cvesta:
You keep jumping the gun rather than answer sane questions you have been asked. This is a public forum and all calibre of people including those with wherewithal to help your cause are likely to see this thread. But your quest for petty name calling and unnecessary appeal to emotion rather than justice won't take you far. Ask yourself since you have been doing this emotional appeal how far it has got you in terms of result.
You may have been bullied by a big bank or just plain naive but calling for justice by whining and wailing like a baby won't get you your desired justice

xtremecr8:
They are still using the same logo we designed(screenshot of their Twitter page and picture of their MD, Dr. Adeduntan presenting a package, carrying the 125th FBN logo we designed,to Senator Alasoadua are shown below).
We have not being paid yet she Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney sent us to their legal unit.
Every email we send and even enquiry from Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney by everyone we sought their help to intervene, she kept referring us to the legal unit(screenshot of her email reply)
Meanwhile, we can't pay our own bills.
Please help us tweet at them to beg them to pay us.
We are a small brand and admit that we can't match their kind of resources in Nigeria's legal system. We hardly pay our own overheads let alone paying for protracted legal case in Nigerian courts.
We just want to get paid for designing their 125th Anniversary logo. Nothing more, nothing less. We are ready to meet with their account unit not legal because we don't have business with their legal unit.

Cvesta:
You keep jumping the gun rather than answer sane questions you have been asked. This is a public forum and all calibre of people including those with wherewithal to help your cause are likely to see this thread. But your quest for petty name calling and unnecessary appeal to emotion rather than justice won't take you far. Ask yourself since you have been doing this emotional appeal how far it has got you in terms of result.
You may have been bullied by a big bank or just plain naive but calling for justice by whining and wailing like a baby won't get you your desired justice

sapientia:
.

No matter what you preach

He is the victim.

If he overreacts and makes mistake, its doesn't take away the fact that he is the victim.

Doing away from all the dramas I have witnessed on the thread. There is a simple and one fact here.

FBN used a logo created by the young man's company and have refused to pay him.

Put yourself in his shoes.

Cvesta:
I don't doubt nor argue about your conclusion. But does he not need to reassess his current strategy? If it is not working why not approach it in a different manner?

sapientia:
Well, I can not agree less.

xtremecr8 , if there are lapses or shortcomings in your strategy, do yourself a favour and fix it as it seems these guys may not be against you but your approach.

Sometimes, admiting that we are wrong is not weakness but one of the greatest strength.

From what Cvesta pointed out, I advise you go through this thread from page one objectively and see if there are points and advises you might have overlooked which will be beneficial for you.

Don't relent, you will get your payment.

sapientia:
Well, I can not agree less.

xtremecr8 , if there are lapses or shortcomings in your strategy, do yourself a favour and fix it as it seems these guys may not be against you but your approach.

Sometimes, admiting that we are wrong is not weakness but one of the greatest strength.

From what Cvesta pointed out, I advise you go through this thread from page one objectively and see if there are points and advises you might have overlooked which will be beneficial for you.

Don't relent, you will get your payment.