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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkaiCorne(m): 9:59pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
I dey come. I have unfinished business on 2 other threads. Will address these your responses. Honestly your replies are baffling. I will be back Bishop Oyedepo also knows Satan's weakness. Interesting.
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by Anas09: 10:36pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
OkCornel:You are yet to say how their mistakes relate with exposing satan. I'm saying Jesus warned us against what you abd yours were doing, based on that you said that was how the Church in Pergamos and Thyatira made mistakes. So, why mistakes did they make relating to what EnthronedbyGod was doing? OkCornel:Maybe you shd post the scriptures and explain them within context. OkCornel:No one got born again and confessed Christ by being told the names of demons and what they do. I never saw anyone who said they stopped sinning as a result of hearing what satan can do. No drug addict got over his addiction. No prostitute got delivered from the spirit of Perversion. No homosexual got delivered. No liar stopped lying. Do you know what testimony is? Once I was blind, but niw, I can see. That is a testimony. OkCornel:Okay. OkCornel:Lol. Testimonies by EnthronedbyGod here on Nairaland. Don't be coy. Don't play the devil here. OkCornel:Spoke about or taught about satan very well? And in what context did He speak about satan? Did he tell what satan has been up to since he tricked Adam in Eden? Did the Lord taught about how satan sets traps and brings people down? How many names of demons did Jesus tell his followers? OkCornel:As in, he invited satan into a tete ate? Are you serious right now? Is this how you insist on teaching error? U can open facedly lie to teach a lie? OkCornel:What did He say? He told them how strong satan was right. He told where and where satan lives, what he does, and how he does his things abi? OkCornel:OKcornel. This is really lame. I don't expect this from you at all. You mean these are the premise you stand upon to teach spiritism and demonology? SMH. OkCornel:So this Jesus teaching demonology? OkCornel:Based on what you have posted so far, it obvious your mind is set to teach spiritism. Jesus never ever taught demonology. He made the people know what rhwybare up against if they didn't cross over to the Kingdom of Light. Anytime he met them, they are the who cried out terrified. He cast them out without much ado. It's Blasphemy to say Jesus held a conversation with satan? OkCornel:Your bigger picture is that, you want to teach demonology by all means and are ready to bend scriptures to do so. OkCornel:What did he say the wiles of the devil are, within the cintext he said it? OkCornel:Okay, I'm waiting. OkCornel:Lol. Where are the Testimonies? How many of them repented from their sins by what you and yours do here? |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 10:49pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
I dey come. I will address the tithe issue on the other thread, and get back to this. Chai, this is hilarious. I don't want to omit that one tonight. |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:08pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
The testimonies Anas09 is refusing to see.
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:09pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
More testimonies Anas is refusing to see
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:10pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
And yet more testimonies Anas089 is refusing to admit;
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:11pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
Still more testimonies Anas09 is refusing to admit
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:12pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
And yet more testimonies of liberation Anas09 is turning a blind eye to
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:18pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
Plus the extra testimonies in here; https://www.nairaland.com/5390672/testimonies-enthronedbygod-when-he-nairaland |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:45pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
Anas09: It's unfortunate you cannot connect the dots to see the bigger picture. Retelling the story of Israel being saved from Egypt only to eventually break God's commandments on idolatry and sexual immorality mirrors what the Pergamos church did. I am surprised you could not decipher that. Anas09: Lies! Those that propagated the doctrine of Balaam and Nicolaitans in Pergamos did it with the objective of leading believers astray to worship other gods and commit sexual immorality. Please how does enthronedbyGod's exposure of the kingdom of darkness and testimonies of victory over them eventually lead believers into worshipping other gods ehn? Anas Anas09: According to the gospel of Anas Chapter 4 v 2. Please back up this your analogy with scriptural examples. Eating food offered to idols as recorded in the scriptures was in the literal sense, and not this personal interpretation you are putting up here. Oya, show us where any of the Apostles or Prophets interpreted eating food meant for idols as swallowing wrong teachings? So what then is the difference between eating food offered to idols and heresies in the scriptural sense? Anas09: Read the scripture in context and stop adding your personal meanings to it. The situation in Pergamos referred to literal fornication. Sexual immorality. Nothing more to that. Anas09:You have successfully told us you can't differentiate between idolatry, fornication and adultery by lumping all these into one basket of unfaithfulness. Unfaithfulness was what the Prophets were addressing. Fornication and adultery means everything it means in its literal sense, same goes for idolatry. Now the million dollar question is, Did EnthronedbyGod do altar call for anybody to accept idols or the devil? nope. Did he encourage anyone to commit sinful lifestyle? nope! Anas09: People are repenting genuinely, people are backsliding, people are being liberated from oppression, people are still in bondage due to their fear and ignorance, people are serving God for their bellies in various denominations. Have a holistic view rather than a parochial one Anas09:Who told you I am surprised? I am quoting what happened live in the early church which is still playing itself out today as Jude noted. Anas09: They were ignorant of Jesus' standard and compromised to accommodate fornication and idolatry which was prevalent in Pergamos traditions. So yes, they were ignorant of the wiles of the devil that eventually led them into error. Anas09: You tell me how to connect it. How does EnthronedbyGod's exposure of the secrets of the Kingdom of darkness and testimonies of many others' victory on them automatically translate into idolatry and fornication? Anas09: Pretty sad you cannot connect the dots. Just as the Pergamos church compromised to allow sinful lifestyle of idolatry and fornication into their church, so do churches today compromise on Christ's standards all for the crowd and money. They tone down messages of repentance and rather more of Grace and Liberty, thus preaching lopsided doctrines leading a lot of people to error. Just like the Pergamos church. Since you asked how such doctrines constitute a stumbling block to believers today. |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:50pm On Sep 04, 2019 |
Anas 09; Please what was Jesus teaching His disciples here? Matthew 12 v 43-45; |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by Anas09: 8:37am On Sep 05, 2019 |
Like I keep telling you, but you Keep evading thw point. The reason for this thread is for you to state the mistakes of the Churches you mentioned and how it relates to the discussion on demonology in EnthronedbyGod's thread. You are rigmaroling. OkCornel:Do you remember "Monogamous consensual same sex people who hurt no body, and how it went on and on even when it cannot be corroborated with scriptures? This is exactly what you are doing here. You want to teach demonology, you justify Yourself even when the very scriptures you quote testify against you. OkCornel:Now I see why you're so shallow when it comes to the Word of God. Lolzzzzz. There are three levels to interpret the Word. The outer level. The inner level The Most inner level. But, I see you remain at the outer level, hence you can accuse the Lord of having a conversation with satan and say He was teaching us about demons. Jeremiah 15:16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. 1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: The Word of God is Spiritual food, but if some charlatan misuses it by teaching errors what do you think happens to the heater? The Lord calls the Word of God 'A two edges sword'. Meaning it can trim and give you life, but if not rightly used, it can consume you. Hence the Lord who is the Word is called 'A consuming fire'. Right now, you are twisting the Word to teach demonology, you'd be feeding poison to anyone who believes your teachings and follow them. OkCornel:Hahahahahahaha. You shd take your own advise, that is, if you know how to take the Word contextually. Shd I also give you scriptures that God called idol worship fornication? lol. Bros, go to Bible school and stop this pls. OkCornel:If by this time you still do not know that adultery and fornication does not mean literal sex only, then I can't help you. Maybe you shd take trip down to Isaiah and Jeremiah, they can help you. OkCornel:Do you see people who porn movies or the manufacturers of guns and drugs making altar calls for people to accept their goods? No. They just put them out there. We live in a time where people, especially those who believe they're called into the deliverance ministries are bombarding the people with unscriptural gospel of demons and their works, and people just lap them up, because very few wants the discipline that comes with following the Word. Itchy ears. OkCornel:The bolded is why we preach the gospel of Christ. The Gospel which is good news. That is why I am here saying, 'Stop going on and on about Satan. He is the reason for fear and bondage in the hearts of men. Preach Christ not satan. People have been serving God for their bellies from time. It didn't start today, it won't end today. Which Commission was committed into your hands OKcornel? Remember when you are done here, it is the talent that was given to you to multiply is what will be demanded from you, not what you thought appropriate to invest in. No one send you this message of demonology. OkCornel:Check your tone. OkCornel:What you have just confirm here is that Jesus is inconsistent. He warned them against the deep things of satan. (Meaning, stay away from satan), but on the other hand, blamed them for not knowing more about satan hence fell into sin. The Col 2:8 you quoted clearly commanded us to steer clear demonology not go into it, how then wld Jesus blame people for not doing it? OKcornel, the wiles of satan are not what you and yours are doing here. The wiles of satan arw the strategies he uses in trapping down his victims. Basically Pride, then others like anger, malice, fear, lying, stealing, sexual immoralities, unbelief, doubts, inconsistencies, double mindedness. Perversion of all kinds, Lust, idolatry etc. These are the wiles of satan, not the names of demons Nd what they do. OkCornel:He that is called of God speaks the word of God. Go ye into all the world's and preach the gospel saying, 'The Kingdom of God is at hand's, repent and believe in whom God has sent As my father has sent me, so send I you. Which of these did EnthronedbyGod do? Who sent him to preach demonology? Definitely not Jesus. No matter how hard you try to hark at this, it won't cut. OkCornel:Lol. The Pergamum Church fell into fornication and idolatry because they hung out with people who did not insist on teaching the gospel of Christ, just like you and yours here. You wld rather talk about satan than Jesus, but you in particular turned around to call them Cowards for being afraid of satan. Woe betide you. OkCornel:Yes, I did, and I'm yet to get a reasonable scriptural response from you. 1 Like |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by OkCornel(m): 11:56am On Sep 05, 2019 |
Chai... My people perish for lack of knowledge. I will back later today to address all these funny responses.
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Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by Blackfire(m): 10:38am On Mar 26, 2020 |
Hi Anas09 ...can we private chat |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by Anas09: 7:27pm On Mar 26, 2020 |
Blackfire:Yes, Backfire, we can. |
Re: The Mistakes Of The Churches Of Thyatira And Pergamum by Blackfire(m): 10:02pm On Mar 26, 2020 |
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