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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:26am On May 01, 2020
Hargbo:


A good input.

I saw the picture of the building prior to its Collapse and the columns are nothing to write home about.

This is why we should take the pain to get a structural design before embarking on a building project that is more than a floor even though any type of building needs a structural analysis...

Proper adherence to the architectural, structural, mechanical and electrical designs are important.
Do you know that some people use 12mm instead of 16mm for columns, I was surprised to see it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 12:51pm On May 01, 2020
Hargbo:


A good input.

I saw the picture of the building prior to its Collapse and the columns are nothing to write home about.

This is why we should take the pain to get a structural design before embarking on a building project that is more than a floor even though any type of building needs a structural analysis...


My brother the incident is terrible o

But let’s Check the pics and the video very well
To me I can see that the columns interval is good with size 450*250mm with proper reinforcement,(although I don’t know the size of the reinforcement used coupled with concrete mix ratio )
And I believed that such structure can’t be approved without full drawing , architectural drawing, structural drawing, M&S.

So I believed that they rush the construction from 1st floor to 8th floor within A MONTH (very terrible) and it’s not precast slab o, cast -in-Situ concrete.No time for standard curing of the slab and the the columns before placing another floor on it. Who does that.
According to what I read from the original thread.

To me they need to arrest the firm that handle the project, which I believed the governor must have done that by now.

Although video and pics posted can’t say it all, let’s wait and see what they will come out with after there investigation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adequate459: 2:00pm On May 01, 2020
Biztech05:



Guess the measurements you provide is main building only?
But nevertheless bought 1m to 1.2m max
For 0.5mm gauge

You can chat up for more enquiries
Biztech05@yahoo.com
WhatsApp:+2347066483964

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Biztech05(m): 4:46pm On May 01, 2020
You're welcome sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mamatwiny(f): 5:18pm On May 01, 2020
My ppl, how much should I budget for the foundation of a 2 storey building; six 3 bedroom flats each having 2 toilets only ( one master) and the other shared.

I would also appreciate estimate to roofing level with longspan aluminium roof

Also estimate how much can finish the whole house , average finish.painting, plumbing and electrical wiring.
Location- Anambra

We are having an argument with my friends, so I want to plan and save and start off with foundation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 5:31pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:
My ppl, how much should I budget for the foundation of a 2 storey building; six 3 bedroom flats each having 2 toilets only ( one master) and the other shared.

I would also appreciate estimate to roofing level with longspan aluminium roof

Also estimate how much can finish the whole house , average finish.painting, plumbing and electrical wiring.
Location- Anambra

We are having an argument with my friends, so I want to plan and save and start off with foundation.

Ma, why can't you make the toilet 3 so that visitors can make use of the 3rd one.

thanka
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Biztech05(m): 5:52pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:
My ppl, how much should I budget for the foundation of a 2 storey building; six 3 bedroom flats each having 2 toilets only ( one master) and the other shared.

I would also appreciate estimate to roofing level with longspan aluminium roof

Also estimate how much can finish the whole house , average finish.painting, plumbing and electrical wiring.
Location- Anambra

We are having an argument with my friends, so I want to plan and save and start off with foundation.


Guess you have firm and table land ?
If yes budget # 2.5m to # 3m for your foundation

You can check out with us for annotated BOQ also for project execution!
@ Biztech05@yahoo.com
WhatsApp; +2347066483964
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mamatwiny(f): 6:15pm On May 01, 2020
topsy23:


Ma, why can't you make the toilet 3 so that visitors can make use of the 3rd one.

thanka

That would have been ideal, but I am looking at something I can finish b4 I retire grin . Putting the 3rd toilet would mean bigger space and more cost.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hargbo(m): 6:27pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:
My ppl, how much should I budget for the foundation of a 2 storey building; six 3 bedroom flats each having 2 toilets only ( one master) and the other shared.

I would also appreciate estimate to roofing level with longspan aluminium roof

Also estimate how much can finish the whole house , average finish.painting, plumbing and electrical wiring.
Location- Anambra

We are having an argument with my friends, so I want to plan and save and start off with foundation.
Ma, Do you have a Building Plan

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:01pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:


That would have been ideal, but I am looking at something I can finish b4 I retire grin . Putting the 3rd toilet would mean bigger space and more cost.
pls put what he told u into consideration ma.
I had a similar experience, but my engineer went behind me to put extra toilet. I was angry but now i am enjoying it, and we always laugh over how we fouught about it.
Pls do it ma, thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mamatwiny(f): 7:27pm On May 01, 2020
bobkezel:

pls put what he told u into consideration ma.
I had a similar experience, but my engineer went behind me to put extra toilet. I was angry but now i am enjoying it, and we always laugh over how we fouught about it.
Pls do it ma, thanks.
OK thank you.
My hubby is of the opinion that i will get more rent if one bedroom flats are built instead of 3 bedroom flats. Have you compared this b4?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 7:40pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:

OK thank you.
My hubby is of the opinion that i will get more rent if one bedroom flats are built instead of 3 bedroom flats. Have you compared this b4?

it depends on the location

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:46pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:

OK thank you.
My hubby is of the opinion that i will get more rent if one bedroom flats are built instead of 3 bedroom flats. Have you compared this b4?
if it's for renting, one bedroom flat is easier to rent and gives more than 3 bedroom.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:48pm On May 01, 2020
mamatwiny:
My ppl, how much should I budget for the foundation of a 2 storey building; six 3 bedroom flats each having 2 toilets only ( one master) and the other shared.

I would also appreciate estimate to roofing level with longspan aluminium roof

Also estimate how much can finish the whole house , average finish.painting, plumbing and electrical wiring.
Location- Anambra

We are having an argument with my friends, so I want to plan and save and start off with foundation.

This is a complete estimate, it will be difficult to get almost accurate cost without drawing and the true nature of the land, also to get someone to do free estimates for this project will be difficult a little,
Why don’t you just get your drawing and call a QS here to do the proper boq for you. We have them many here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 8:19pm On May 01, 2020
https://www.nairaland.com/5829575/implementation-guidelines-gradual-easing-lockdown

Link to the thread on the guideline for the phased easing of lockdown.
Apparently construction is permitted to continue alongside transporting construction materials interstate.
I'm curious though if our law enforcement agents would classify paint and screeding materials as either goods or construction materials and I'm asking openly here for the sake of clarification for out of state clients whose work has been on pending since the lockdown.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:20pm On May 01, 2020
bobkezel:

if it's for renting, one bedroom flat is easier to rent and gives more than 3 bedroom.
right but still depend on location
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:55pm On May 01, 2020
Hargbo:


A good input.

I saw the picture of the building prior to its Collapse and the columns are nothing to write home about.

This is why we should take the pain to get a structural design before embarking on a building project that is more than a floor even though any type of building needs a structural analysis...




very correct Sir and very on point.
I do pass through there on my many trips to portharcourt and I haven't been impressed with the structure though I never had interest at looking out for details due to the bad road in front of the structure which is worrisome n tiring but still the best option if you want to beat traffic.

this site is situated along one of the most treasured area and the owner or contractor shouldn't have made the mistake of doing a shady work if the government agencies are really up to their job.
the area is a water logged area, that I am sure of.
I put All the blame on the state regulatory agency though, we wait for the outcome but I bet we might hear no more of it if the owner is a strong force to reckon with

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:20pm On May 01, 2020
twinskenny:
right but still depend on location
the location is anambra so i know.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 9:48pm On May 01, 2020
Please how is building approval done in ifo local government of Ogun state. The requirements and how to go about it .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:21am On May 02, 2020
mamatwiny:

OK thank you.
My hubby is of the opinion that i will get more rent if one bedroom flats are built instead of 3 bedroom flats. Have you compared this b4?

Your husband is right. Go with him on this one. In fact mix it up. One bed, two bed and less of three bedrooms.

Three bedrooms are difficult to rent relative to the expectation from the rental income and the most difficult tenants are three bedrooms tenants from experience because most are living above their means.

The best are one bedrooms. Quick and simple to finish, quick to rent and the tenants are mostly appreciative and pay rent promptly. I hardly do three bedrooms. It makes no economic sense to the landlord in current Nigeria.

Maximise the square footage of your land. Do mix mode of one and two bedrooms. The project will yield more for you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mamatwiny(f): 10:39am On May 02, 2020
diordaves:


Your husband is right. Go with him on this one. In fact mix it up. One bed, two bed and less of three bedrooms.

Three bedrooms are difficult to rent relative to the expectation from the rental income and the most difficult tenants are three bedrooms tenants from experience because most are living above their means.

The best are one bedrooms. Quick and simple to finish, quick to rent and the tenants are mostly appreciative and pay rent promptly. I hardly do three bedrooms. It makes no economic sense to the landlord in current Nigeria.

Maximise the square footage of your land. Do mix mode of one and two bedrooms. The project will yield more for you.

I appreciate your comment.Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dbshaywhy(m): 11:26am On May 02, 2020
Good morning professionals, please if workers at one site fall off bricks and got slump but recovered at medical intervention... Please who is to be responsible for the the medical bills or how should it be sorted out?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by LeftieJay: 12:23pm On May 02, 2020
Please I need advice, I have a project going on. It’s 24 room self contain. 12 rooms down and it will have 12 rooms up. Please I want to know the cost of decking. I’m not living in Nigeria and the estimate that was sent to me is making me doubt. I also have to floor the ground too. I will post the estimate here. Please somebody should help me out. The project is in edo state. The estimate is saying almost 3.3m

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 3:28pm On May 02, 2020
LeftieJay:
Please I need advice, I have a project going on. It’s 24 room self contain. 12 rooms down and it will have 12 rooms up. Please I want to know the cost of decking. I’m not living in Nigeria and the estimate that was sent to me is making me doubt. I also have to floor the ground too. I will post the estimate here. Please somebody should help me out. The project is in edo state. The estimate is saying almost 3.3m

Hi. WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE PAPER / QUOTATION YOU ATTACHED, I'll say budget 4m to complete it.... I'll look at it and reply in a separate post.

Goodluck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 3:34pm On May 02, 2020
LeftieJay:
Please I need advice, I have a project going on. It’s 24 room self contain. 12 rooms down and it will have 12 rooms up. Please I want to know the cost of decking. I’m not living in Nigeria and the estimate that was sent to me is making me doubt. I also have to floor the ground too. I will post the estimate here. Please somebody should help me out. The project is in edo state. The estimate is saying almost 3.3m

There's ONLY ONE THING wrong with this quotation and its is.

THE NUMBER OF 16MM IS TOO LITTLE, I guess your guys are planning to use 12mm for BEAMS or they have no plan to use beams...

The QUOTATION IS OKAY but ask them if the slab has a beam and what iron they plan to use.

IF THE RIGHT REBAR OF 16MM IS USED.... I expect the budget to hit or almost hit the 4m mark.

Goodluck...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 5:19pm On May 02, 2020
LeftieJay:
Please I need advice, I have a project going on. It’s 24 room self contain. 12 rooms down and it will have 12 rooms up. Please I want to know the cost of decking. I’m not living in Nigeria and the estimate that was sent to me is making me doubt. I also have to floor the ground too. I will post the estimate here. Please somebody should help me out. The project is in edo state. The estimate is saying almost 3.3m
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 5:24pm On May 02, 2020
Pls don't give in to this quotation beca use I don't understand why transport for stone #180,000 and 16mm iron just 5 for Decking I will advice you to look for a professional to hand your job thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hargbo(m): 6:02pm On May 02, 2020
LeftieJay:
Please I need advice, I have a project going on. It’s 24 room self contain. 12 rooms down and it will have 12 rooms up. Please I want to know the cost of decking. I’m not living in Nigeria and the estimate that was sent to me is making me doubt. I also have to floor the ground too. I will post the estimate here. Please somebody should help me out. The project is in edo state. The estimate is saying almost 3.3m
Sir do you want us to Look at the Material or the cost..

I guess you don't have a structural design to begin with..

Following the footsteps of my Oga saydfact

Based on the fact that it's a 12 room self contain, since I don't have the real dimension, all this are based on assumption..

The materials and Labour in the quotation are reasonable to begin with but why is he paying to transport stone to site again... I used 215 k to purchase 60tons of granite with transport inclusive last month,

Also, it's better to look for a carpenter that will rent out his wood for your decking rather than buying fresh woods.. at most you will pay him 350k for both rentage and workmanship and he will come and remove his wood from your site at no cost after 21days.

Furthermore, the reinforcement should be be purchase in tons.
The 16mm is too small for your project...
Use 16mm for all your columns and Beams, it is very important..

The 12mm we have out there is not always up to the specified thickness...



Please invite a structural engineer to look into your reinforcement arrangement, your beam and columns location, cantilevers. At most it will cost you just 50k to invite him to look into your decking and he will even supervise the casting and reinforcement arrangement for you.

I saw Geamer Concrete in your estimate and I saw it again as Floor Concrete in the Summary..

I don't understand, is he talking about German Floor.

Kindly send a picture of the site, l want to see your column location and the reinforcement used...

I rest my Pen, Netflix is calling me, am still on Lockdown grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:40pm On May 02, 2020
mamatwiny:

OK thank you.
My hubby is of the opinion that i will get more rent if one bedroom flats are built instead of 3 bedroom flats. Have you compared this b4?

After due research I’m only building 1 and 2 bedroom flats. But I’m in Ibadan in case that matters.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hargbo(m): 6:54pm On May 02, 2020
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