₦airaland Forum

Grayoso:
Look, learned Yorubas are not naturally uncouth and insultive like Igbos. We are not 'herded' either to be following one man blindly as Igbos do with Kanu who is a scammer that appeared from nowhere.

We know Tinubu well. He has paid his dues massively for Yorubas and their cause from the day he fled Nigeria and was a supremo of NADECO that fought Abacha.

Are you aware of all that before you start insulting the man uncouthly while expecting learned Yorubas to just condone your behavior?

You are the same person praising OBJ who is no less than a very wicked and Vainglorious leader who has been one of if not the biggest problem of the entire Nigeria for many decades.

People like you are traitors for worshipping OBJ and demonzing Tinubu who remains a benevolent politician only working with the reality of Nigerian politics whereas OBJ was the same wicked and vengeful individual who began sabotaging Nigeria as far back as when he abetted the rigging in of Shagari as President so the ultra-visionary Awolowo would never get the glory of leading Nigeria to great heights.

As civilian President OBJ was a demon to the SW openly rigging in gangsters and killers in as leaders everywhere. Need I tell you how many prominent technocrats got murdered under OBJ when they dared to venture near SW politics?

Today Nightclub boss Shina Pellar (Quilox) is a serving politician because of the sanity Tinubu has brought to SW politics. Ditto former actor Desmond Elliot and the two Yoruba betting shop bosses. That alone is worth its weight in gold.

How many governors did OBJ undemocratic ally impeach at will or jail partisanly in his one-sided fight against corruption? How many Senate Presidents did he hound out for not doing his bidding? How many billions of dollars did your icon OBJ steal to the detriment of the entire nation while you call Tinubu thief daily for his leadership of Lagos alone.

No private asset OBJ did not sell to cronies for pittance especially when he was about to leave office. Yar Adua was so ashamed about the unpatriotic theft of OBJ he quickly moved to reverse some of OBJ's sale of national assets!!!

Does the entire nation have one MW of power to show for OBJ's $16 billion fraud in the power sector while the same OBJ was frustrating Tinubu PPP (private power plant) plans for Lagos? What of OBJ's unforgiveably wicked imposition of sick Yar Adua on Nigeria when other competent candidates were available merely because your hero wanted tools he could control rather than good leadership of the biggest black nation on Earth?

Bruv take your time and don't even get a proper omoluabi started. Any Yoruba that can cannonize OBJ and demonize Tinubu is simply ignorant or deviant. There are too many holes and disjointed views in your thinking for you to be a pragmatic omoluabi aware of the big picture. It is almost impossible for any genuine Omoluabi, aware of the historical truth of Nigeria since 1999, to love the monster OBJ while hating Tinubu. Even your talk of caring for Osun is suspect. Did you live through the Oyinlola days? You're a fraud bro.

nonsense..disgusting liar and a conspirational story teller
tell all this nonsense to folks who are deny their salary and pension..
did I live through oyinlola?
well I went to and graduated from Osun State University,one of Oyinlola's legacies.
when you are ready for a honest discussion about Apc failure of leadership across Sw..
mention me and I will oblige you.

ODVanguard:
Bro, I see where you are coming from, but your experience (however unfortunate) only goes to show that your position is in the minority. Even Awolowo had fierce rivals within Yorubaland (with many being his former political associates even). By 1983, UPN had lost Oyo and Ondo (though it later regained Ondo via the courts), before the coup that ushered in Buhari struck. The situation is kinda like what you find with Kanu and igbos online. The support that Nnamdi Kanu enjoys amongst Igbos online is reflective of the widespread support he enjoys on the ground. Fine, not every igboman supports Kanu, but I would argue that even those ones that don't support him have one or two areas where they agree with him. Yorubas may not agree with Kanu or even dislike his methods, but when it comes down to numbers, that guy has the 'street credibility' amongst regular everyday igbos, moreso online. It is what it is. I don't support you getting attacked for not supporting Tinubu, but that is just reflective of how unpopular your position is amongst mainstream Yorubas.

I am in the minority and in both 2015 and 2019,Apc won Sw by whiskers...not by anything significant despite their massive propaganda....all the margins were eveb cancelled by a single state in SE.
I'm in the minority and apc lost Osun State in the real elections and had to enter in to a last minute deal with omisore and then engage in massive rigging of the rerun.
I'm in the minority and their party lost oyo state..
lol..minority indeed..
more like minority on nairaland

Oladeji245:
I will not like to drag this further again..
u support tinubu,cool
I like so many others do not support him,let us be..its not too much to ask

Oga Ade calm down. I am not amongst those that will drag you for not supporting Tinubu. I was only giving you my perspective as to why I think you may be getting dragged more often than not. And that was why I used the Kanu analogy. Try opening a thread on this forum to drag Nnmadi Kanu and watch the caustic responses you would receive from his fans and admirers. His followers online are way more than his opponents, that's just the way it is. Historically, Yorubas have always had 'mainstream' (a political party that dominates the region) existing side-by-side with opposition parties within the same region. And like I said, even Awolowo had fierce opposition in his SW/Western region political base. Therefore it is not a crime for you not to support Tinubu. But perhaps you just need to grow some tough skin because you can't expect to call Tinubu names and not get a reaction from some of his ardent supporters. Politics can be an emotional sport. It is what it is.

ODVanguard:
Oga Ade calm down. I am not amongst those that will drag you for not supporting Tinubu. I was only giving you my perspective as to why I think you may be getting dragged more often than not. And that was why I used the Kanu analogy. Try opening a thread on this forum to drag Nnmadi Kanu and watch the caustic responses you would receive from his fans and admirers. His followers online are way more than his opponents, that's just the way it is. Historically, Yorubas have always had 'mainstream' (a political party that dominates the region) existing side-by-side with opposition parties within the same region. And like I said, even Awolowo had fierce opposition in his SW/Western region political base. Therefore it is not a crime for you not to support Tinubu. But perhaps you just need to grow some tough skin because you can't expect to call Tinubu names and not get a reaction from some of his ardent supporters. Politics can be an emotional sport. It is what it is.

ok sir

Oladeji245:
I am in the minority and in both 2015 and 2019,Apc won Sw by whiskers...not by anything significant despite their massive propaganda....all the margins were eveb cancelled by a single state in SE.
I'm in the minority and apc lost Osun State in the real elections and had to enter in to a last minute deal with omisore and then engage in massive rigging of the rerun.
I'm in the minority and their party lost oyo state..
lol..minority indeed..
more like minority on nairaland

Guy, abeg dey your dey. I would rather not engage you in any roforofo fight over this issue. Just grow some thick skin because just as you are entitled to call Tinubu names, so are his ardent supporters entitled to hit you back as they see fit. To such supporters, you may be dragged as though you are a Yoruba-hating igbo troll (coz they are the ones that are mostly fond of hating Tinubu for the most irrational reasons), similar to the way fellow igbos are labelled 'Afonja' for abusing Kanu or supposedly holding unpopular views that they deem to be anti-igbo or against the larger igbo interests). It's a free world.

jacksonkennedy:
What exactly is our national goal?

We know that Hausa/Fulanis want to keep Nigeria one and dominate it.
We know that Ibos want to divide Nigeria and go with the SS

What is our own unique goal?

We just registered our ethnic group in UNPO, which may suggest to other Nigerians that we want out of this union. Yet we are positioning for presidency in 2023.

It's good but I want to know what our people think should be our end game.

This is a good thread and I pray others won't fload it with unwanted issues just to shift our focus and objective of the thread. You v said it all in your post,however we need to be objective on what we want. To me we need to keep supporting the north in the quest to hold on to one Nigeria because that is the only way we can benefits from the Nigerian project. As far as Nigeria remains we can not be defeated.

KingJa:
Please name me an Igbo man who took the fight against 2 military dictators while risking his life and freedom in the process.

Ndigbo fought all the military dictators in Nigeria from the grandfather of them all, Yakubu Gowon to unmentioned. While Ndigbo fought every one of the dictators, your forbearers were in lockstep with them. You simply cannot eat your cake and have it.

gidgiddy:
I think the long term goal of Yorubas is to beg the North for Presidency and restructuring forever

I googled it and realised that notwithstanding the noise of Ibos both in Nigeria and all over the world about Biafra, Ibos registered to be 46th member of UNPO after Yoruba with 45th membership. I have always said it that Igbos enjoy making empty noise than actually channeling their strength to a more meaningful way of achieving their set goals.

Dedetwo:
Ndigbo fought all the military dictators in Nigeria from the grandfather of them all, Yakubu Gowon to unmentioned. While Ndigbo fought every one of the dictators, your forbearers were in lockstep with them. You simply cannot eat your cake and have it.

What did ndigbo achieve even after all the fights?

yommen:
I googled it and realised that notwithstanding the noise of Ibos both in Nigeria and all over the world about Biafra, Ibos registered to be 46th member of UNPO after Yoruba with 45th membership. I have always said it that Igbos enjoy making empty noise than actually channeling their strength to a more meaningful way of achieving their set goals.

You are comparing registering with organisation to people who declared independence and fought a three year war to be free? Dont make me laugh, Igbos passed the stage of UNPO long time ago

AniOmaa:
So after all these nicely written "Oriki" and adulations for Tinubu's infallible political sagacity, the million dollar question is and remains, what have you PERSONALLY benefited from Tinubu? what has Tinubu done to alleviate the poverty ravaging people in his region, especially during these lock down period? or is it only when it's time to play his bourdillon politics, that he remembers he's the Lord and savior of the Yoruba race?

1. Tinubu is a private citizen, he left public office decades ago.

2. Tinubu is not the governor of Lagos state and the people of Lagos state did not elect him to feed them, to cloth them, or to alleviate anything.

3. Lagosians don't care and they don't depend on Tinubu for their daily bread, maybe you do, but not Lagosians.

4. Lagosians don't waste their time and lives to suffocate, to bitch, to moan and fixate on Tinubu like you and your kind, they have better things to do with their lives.

5. If you are hungry and you need alleviation in your life, call on your village governors and elected officials to feed you and end your suffering.


Worry more about the village leaders you voted for to look after your life because they are responsible for your life, not Tinubu, a private citizen in Laos.

ODVanguard:
Oga Ade calm down. I am not amongst those that will drag you for not supporting Tinubu. I was only giving you my perspective as to why I think you may be getting dragged more often than not. And that was why I used the Kanu analogy. Try opening a thread on this forum to drag Nnmadi Kanu and watch the caustic responses you would receive from his fans and admirers. His followers online are way more than his opponents, that's just the way it is. Historically, Yorubas have always had 'mainstream' (a political party that dominates the region) existing side-by-side with opposition parties within the same region. And like I said, even Awolowo had fierce opposition in his SW/Western region political base. Therefore it is not a crime for you not to support Tinubu. But perhaps you just need to grow some tough skin because you can't expect to call Tinubu names and not get a reaction from some of his ardent supporters. Politics can be an emotional sport. It is what it is.

That guy can't understand what you are saying. To them, anyone who doesn't join them in insulting tinubu is a tinubu supporter.

gidgiddy:
You are comparing registering with organisation to people who declared independence and fought a three year war to be free? Dont make me laugh, Igbos passed the stage of UNPO long time ago

And what came from the war?

JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:
Long term goal is not secession or holding on to a failed union, long time goal is human and infrastructural development of our region, tell me any states that do everything in unison like Yoruba states, where’s there’s freedom to practice the religion you like, support any candidate you like, that’s our long term goal.

Our long term goal is to retain the industrial hub of the nation and the economic capital too, our long term goal is to connect all yoruba major cities together with a road like East - West line (USA), our long term goal is making Yorubaland peaceful so others can come to live and prosper and in turn increase our IGR, our long term goal is security of lives and property in our region, (creation of amotekun and very soon state policing) our long term goal is maintaining the best crop of lawyers in Nigeria Incase there’s a reason to secede, there won’t be bloodshed... If you study Yoruba history, you’ll know our thirst for liberty and progressiveness knows no bound, why our forefathers left ife to conquer territories

Maybe if IPOB study more bout the ANC and Mandela, they’ll know what’s call a struggle, how to liberate your people, sacrifice you’re to make, the type of government you want to run, your economic policy, Kanu hasn’t talked about that, just insulting... I wish they succeed with their secession quest, but Kanu is a distraction for their course, they won’t agree lol

I believe ndigbo have more prospects than kanu, go through history, secessionist leader doesn’t do act like him

I haven’t find that in biafra related post, just making mouth and beating chest

But if the Yoruba nation decides to secede this union one day, nothing on earth can stop it... you can check history

Long term goal of religious tolerance with MURIC,I laugh in Swahili. Long term goal is political tolerance with "oruka",jazz to anyone who is in opposition to you political you will burn his house and property. Remember Yorubas r still praying to drive Igbos into the lagoon and claim their properties. Long term goal to seccede from Nigeria with Tinubu,kikiki! Long term goal is to speak evils of IPOB but envy their non voilence strategies. Long term goal is to use Amotekun to achieve Oduduwa republic with MURIC. I pity you people.

obaaderemi:
And what came from the war?

For three years Igbo people used their own currency, sang their own national anthem, flew their own flag/coat of arms and were not being controlled by Nigeria. It was an experience of a lifetime

The Yoruba nation can only dream of such experience, it will always be about what Nigeria gives them.

gidgiddy:
For three years Igbo people used their own currency, sang their own national anthem, flew their own flag/coat of arms and were not being controlled by Nigeria. It was an experience of a lifetime

The Yoruba nation can only dream of such experience, it will always be about what Nigeria gives them.

Your experience was a nightmare to your people. Yorubas can never dream of such calamity.

obaaderemi:
Your experience was a nightmare to your people. Yorubas can never dream of such calamity.

Well at least now you people know that freedom is not as easy as joining UNPO

gidgiddy:
Well at least now you people know that freedom is not as easy as joining UNPO

We've always known that. That's why we are subtle. You on the other hand didn't realize that until you experienced the nightmare of the civil war. Things have not been the same since then.

reality1010:
Long term goal of religious tolerance with MURIC,I laugh in Swahili. Long term goal is political tolerance with "oruka",jazz to anyone who is in opposition to you political you will burn his house and property. Remember Yorubas r still praying to drive Igbos into the lagoon and claim their properties. Long term goal to seccede from Nigeria with Tinubu,kikiki! Long term goal is to speak evils of IPOB but envy their non voilence strategies. Long term goal is to use Amotekun to achieve Oduduwa republic with MURIC. I pity you people.

Which Region is more tolerant than south west? Yoruba gave the 2 major parties a level playing field, can the same be said about other regions? It’s a fallacy and a very stupid statement by you, that easterners will be thrown into the lagoon, how do you drive millions of easterner in Lagos inside the lagoon, how’s that possible? The oba used that to keep you guys at bay cause i don’t think another ethnic group can come together and call Onitsha no man’s land... what will your obi do? Why will eze ndigbo in akure refer to himself as a king, that he can’t prostrate today the Deji of akure kingdom, imagine a Yoruba man not paying homage to your obi in his palace... imagine the audacity, which Yoruba man has come out to speak ill against your course, even fani Kayode a Yoruba man is the one advancing your course

You’re not a Yoruba and your contribution doesn’t matter, you can put that energy in your region’s course instead of showing your ignorance to the whole Nairaland

Grayoso:
Look, you're just a kid. Not in age but mentally. See all I wrote above and reflect on it. The essence being that you don't take knives to a gunfight as saboteurs like you want the SW to do politically so we would be cut down by bullets before even being able to draw our daggers.

This is why, despite being good guys, Yorubas never felt comfortable aligning politically behind the likes of Soyinka, Fawehinmi, Gani Adam's, Afenifere leaders etal.

I can understand why people view you as Igbo because Yorubas, even those who have reservations about his methods, generally trust Tinubu's political leadership.

Whereas Igbos hate him passionately and publicly because they won't admit to secretly wishing they had their own Tinubu to end their political worthlessness and harmonize SE politics into a purposeful and strategic vehicle to promote Igbos regional interest within Nigeria.

This is why those that charge you not Yoruba are likely correct. No one says all Yorubas must like Tinubu. Yet virtually all Yorubas accept that we must appreciate his worth to us as Nigeria is currently convened politically. Sammy07 even tried to explain this simple concept to you yet you trudge on obstinately.

Your obsessive and unobjective hatred of Tinubu is not at all proportional to anything the man has done one can argue has made him particularly worse, more worthless or more deserving of hate than any other Nigerian politician.

You call Tinubu corrupt and all other unprintable names. Just name me one Nigerian politician who is not corrupt and is politically hardworking, on behalf of his people and region, as Jagaban is. Tinubu, single-handedly, got Yorubas to the Centre again after many years of political wilderness for us under your beloved OBJ and his PDP 'chop Nigeria geng'.

We are seeing critical infrastructure delivered in the SW and FG goodwill today because of our relationship to the Centre. We have Amotekun now whereas it would never have been a reality under OBJ who would simply impeach all governors attempting to support it not caring Yorubas are dying as long as he continues 'wacking' with his 'Chop life' crew.

You don't speak or think with the pragmatism most Yorubas have that makes them, at worst, consider Tinubu a necessary evil for the realities of Nigeria. Tinubu has never left the political trenches. He is always stuck in, at every level, to ensure the SW is moving forward politically.

Contrast this with others. Buhari only used to show up at election time and never really bothered about daily politicking in the North.

Atiku was even worse because he also never bothered with uplifting politics in the North yet he was extremely disloyal and Machiavellian in his pursuit of power.

Peter Obi, as probably the most high profile politician the Igbos can present, is a laughable lightweight not fit to clean Jagaban's shoes.

Jonathan has effectively retired from politics post office without any particular consideration for the political fortunes of his own Bayelsa State let alone Ijaw ethic group. One does not vene know if he is APC or PDP these days.

Yet their people love and support them while you, claiming to be Yoruba, want us to save our vitriol for Jagaban alone, destroy him, and totally disregard the entirety of what he is about.

You are like the ingrate child who sleeps soundly at night yet complains bitterly in the morning about the method security personnel deploy to keep criminals, thugs and killer at bay to facilitate his restful sleep.

Cuz, you ain't fooling no one. Yorubas respect Tinubu politically. In fact this is one of the litmus test of Yorubaness because most ordinary Yorubas never hate Tinubu as mindlessly and as extremely as you and Igbos do.

Yorubas who hate him like that are those he has collected food from, i.e PDP supremos like Bode George and OBJ, or those envious of the influence Tinubu wields as unelected leader of the Yorubas eg Yinka Odumakin and other Afenifebi goons. We are then left with "Yorubas" like you as either a total aberration or fraud.

God will continue to bless you.

I have no addition to this masterpiece.

Jetleeeee:
On this Tinubu issue, I feel like we need to look at things carefully and apply some wisdom. I'm not exactly fond of the man. I don't find him to be ethnically conscious. I don't think God-fathers should exist. I don't see what he has done for Yoruba people. But in a situation where you have all these headies from ogbono land wishing for the man's downfall, I feel like we need to defend him. Ki a ma fi owo wa wo ile. Whether we like it or not, these folks see him as a Yoruba leader. Whatever move Tinubu makes is seen as Yoruba move to them.

They don't care about the Yorubas opposing him. It's why they still blame us for Jona's loss despite giving him a huge chunk of our votes. Ethnicity is a big deal in Nigeria. Every tribe is trying to oust the other. Alot of Yorubas are just too naive and short-sighted to see it. Tinubu's downfall would be seen as "Yoruba downfall" politically. And this is what they want. Even if we want to get rid of Tinubu, we need to prop up a Yoruba leader who has our interest at heart first before doing that. We can't afford to put the cart before the horse. If Tinubu falls today, who will fill his shoes? You need a leader in an extremely tribal country like Nigeria. Nigeria isn't a proper democracy

God bless you bro.

I don't know why some Yoruba think we should condemn one of us just for the sake of politics. Check other tribes, they vote one way, sometimes giving their own 90% of the votes but the Yorubas like playing politics of intellectuals like Nigeria is USA. C'mon, the Yorubas could play politics of division within the state, but anytime we are talking about Federal election we all have to queue behind someone like other tribes because Nigeria is a very improper democracy.

If Oladeji245 like he can vote against APC within the state or detest Tinubu, it is his right. However at the centre, we must not make any mistake of sabotaging anybody that is putting the Yorubas in the national sphere. We have been in opposition for too long, we gotta try being at the centre and see if this will be better than what we have always been.

Yoruba ronu o!

LegendHero:
God bless you bro.

I don't know why some Yoruba think we should condemn one of us just for the sake of politics. Check other tribes, they vote one way, sometimes giving their own 90% of the votes but the Yorubas like playing politics of intellectuals like Nigeria is USA. C'mon, the Yorubas could play politics of division within the state, but anytime we are talking about Federal election we all have to queue behind someone like other tribes because Nigeria is a very improper democracy.

If Oladeji245 like he can vote against APC within the state or detest Tinubu, it is his right. However at the centre, we must not make any mistake of sabotaging anybody that is putting the Yorubas in the national sphere. We have been in opposition for too long, we gotta try being at the centre and see if this will be better than what we have always been.

Yoruba ronu o!

I’m all for tinubu 100%

The current Igbo aggression on him simply means he’s doing something right for yoruba interest

I hope he contest in 2023

I and my entire village will support him

When election comes I know all Yorubas will forget their differences and support him

LegendHero:
God bless you bro.

I don't know why some Yoruba think we should condemn one of us just for the sake of politics. Check other tribes, they vote one way, sometimes giving their own 90% of the votes but the Yorubas like playing politics of intellectuals like Nigeria is USA. C'mon, the Yorubas could play politics of division within the state, but anytime we are talking about Federal election we all have to queue behind someone like other tribes because Nigeria is a very improper democracy.

If Oladeji245 like he can vote against APC within the state or detest Tinubu, it is his right. However at the centre, we must not make any mistake of sabotaging anybody that is putting the Yorubas in the national sphere. We have been in opposition for too long, we gotta try being at the centre and see if this will be better than what we have always been.

Yoruba ronu o!

Apt!!

We can only play liberal in a place where others are thinking like us. These other groups are clannish as hell. Yorubas need to start playing the same game as them.

P.S: We have some stuff being cooked. I'll tag you soon bro. I just need to collect a few more names.

Jetleeeee:
Apt!!

We can only play liberal in a place where others are thinking like us. These other groups are clannish as hell. Yorubas need to start playing the same game as them.

P.S: We have some stuff being cooked. I'll tag you soon bro. Just need to collate a few more names.

I trust yorubas to deliver 100% for tinubu

At the same time though, I feel like we shouldn't treat those who disagree or don't like the man as outcasts. We shouldn't encourage binary thinking. If everyone thinks the same way, there won't be development. That diversity of thought is healthy and necessary. As long as name-calling isn't involved

We just need to let them know why it's important for us to put aside our differences and support him

Osaze007:
I trust yorubas to deliver 100% for tinubu

Hopefully. We need to stand behind him

obaaderemi:
We've always known that. That's why we are subtle. You on the other hand didn't realize that until you experienced the nightmare of the civil war. Things have not been the same since then.

You people make me laugh. Joining UNPO? An organisation that Ogonis joined way back in the 90's? You can join all the organisations in the world but what shows how serious you are about self determination and and independence is the agitation on the ground. Where is your agitation? In a file at UNPO's head office? What have you done to show anyone you are serious?

The people you are comparing your self with have fought a war of independence, formed several organisations such as IPOB and MASSOB that have galvanised the people, protested, campaigned and sensitised.

But your proud achievement is that you registered with UNPO? Go and sleep man, self determination is for serious people.

gidgiddy:
You people make me laugh. Joining UNPO? An organisation that Ogonis joined way back in the 90's? You can join all the organisations in the world but what shows how serious you are about self determination and and independence is the agitation on the ground. Where is your agitation? In a file at UNPO's head office? What have you done to show anyone you are serious?

The people you are comparing your self with have fought a war of independence, formed several organisations such as IPOB and MASSOB that have galvanised the people, protested, campaigned and sensitised.

But your proud achievement is that you registered with UNPO? Go and sleep man, self determination is for serious people.

So UNPo is all you can say your a mumu

Oladeji245:
nonsense..disgusting liar and a conspirational story teller
tell all this nonsense to folks who are deny their salary and pension..
did I live through oyinlola?
well I went to and graduated from Osun State University,one of Oyinlola's legacies.
when you are ready for a honest discussion about Apc failure of leadership across Sw..
mention me and I will oblige you.

You can create a separate thread for that

Oladeji245:
nonsense..disgusting liar and a conspirational story teller
tell all this nonsense to folks who are deny their salary and pension..
did I live through oyinlola?
well I went to and graduated from Osun State University,one of Oyinlola's legacies.
when you are ready for a honest discussion about Apc failure of leadership across Sw..
mention me and I will oblige you.

The three years obj used to denie lagos of federal allocation is a lie too abi.....cause that one is general knowledge.

Osaze007:
I trust yorubas to deliver 100% for tinubu

If he is on the ballot I don't care where or what I am doing i have promised myself I must be in Nigeria to vote for the Man.....even if it's not him but any other Yoruba man....2023 must happen for us.

Jetleeeee:
Apt!!

We can only play liberal in a place where others are thinking like us. These other groups are clannish as hell. Yorubas need to start playing the same game as them.

P.S: We have some stuff being cooked. I'll tag you soon bro. I just need to collect a few more names.

That's why I call that Oladeji245 a fraud. Which politically 'woke' Yoruba, aware of the reality of Nigeria as you correctly stated it, is ignorant of what you wrote in bold above?

Igbos are ready to vote Kanu 100% today if the lunatic is allowed to run in a Nigerian election. Imagine that !! Igbos remain ready to support a maniac who is a hate-monger and propagandists of the highest order.

The North will still always back Atiku healthily despite his infamy as one of the most destructively corrupt politicians to ever emerge from Nigeria at the federal level.

Tinubu is way better than all of them. We should now abandon him for what reason when others support their own worthless leaders blindly, because those people are all they have, in the race to control/influence the Centre in Nigeria.

This is why Yorubas give Wole Soyinka short shrift as per his political leanings and utterances. We respect him but know his views and utterances about politics, while forthright, are naive, incongruous with the reality of Nigeria and ultimately only capable of turning Yorubas into nonentities in the power tussle against others in the "nest of killers"... Soyinka's very own words to describe PDP and effectively Nigeria.

No one needs to teach a 'woke' Yoruba any of these things we are saying.