Armaggedon: Every ethnic group has that minority at the periphery who don't identify strongly with rest of their kits and kind. But then Igbo must be different and must be talked about because they are special. Even the small urhobo has okpe and isoko who reject the urhobo tag. how much more if urhobo were to be the size of Igbo. The idoma/igede/agatu is there. ijaw/nembe/ogbia is there. Ibibio/annang/efik/ekoi , ogoni/eleme is there etc. These ones I mentioned reside in one state and manage to reject sharing identity with those they see daily. you can't compare them to Igbo's carved into several states. Even among some of those in Ika who deny their igboness none reject Biafra.
The reason why nobody will take you serious is because of your unbelievable double standards. You claim Igbos want to annex you while including other ethnic groups that share nothing with you in your audio Niger delta republic. you claim Igbo's want to dominate you while stylishly adding some Igboland into your fantasy republic. You have learnt how to use your shout of Igbo domination as a camouflage to steal delta Igbo lands. Everyone knows how the Delta state creation movement of the old delta province included Urhobo/itshekiris/isoko and ijaw forcefully attempted to annex ukwuani into their Delta state. Itsay shagay even argued that Ukwuani were more "comfortable being with them" than their Anioma brothers. They needed ukwuani apparently because of land and natural resources while arguing that the other Igbo's should be kicked into Anambra or better still remain in Edo state who they share affinity with (as if it wasn't urhobos who share affinity with Edo)
Most of you think that the fact that you are called minority gives you the right to deny members of majority groups their own right, thus you have weaponized your minority status.
Anyone who hears you mention of how Igbo's want to do this and that will think you have heaven and earth to offer but some of you need Igbo's more than Igbo's need you.
I used to criticize KANU for adding none Igbo's into Biafra until I learnt one thing -a paradox where the one thing that can make the ethnic groups of the Niger delta to join Biafra is Igbo and the one thing that can make them not to join Biafra is Igbo. The vocal minority among the Niger delta tribes who have personal issues with some Igbo's and are therefore jealous and hateful, usually use the fear of Igbo dominance to scare other tribes against Igbo. But the silent majority among the Niger Delta ethnic groups know they don't get along as individual tribes in Niger delta rather the only thing that binds them together is the Igbo. urhobo for instance is hated by all the tribes in Delta for their domineering attitude. Ijaw hates them, itshekiri hates them, they don't get along with anioma. Even the urhobo themselves complain about how ijaw try to expand/grab land in the region and how they regard Niger Delta struggle as ijaw struggle, leading to ijaw getting most amnesty programme slots.
The Ibibio efik are not different but I will not spend time on them.
My point is that you vocal minority have mastered a way of bullying pro Biafrans silent majority among your people. you vocal minority know how to attack Igbo's using your minority status as a weapon of emotional blackmail against Igbo's on Biafran issue. You know quite well that silent majority of Niger delta want Biafra. That is why you lots shout down the idea of referendum. I have seen folks who tell me "we no wan talk now because Biafran agitation never get head". Two of the present senators from Bayelsa come from a family that fought on Biafra side during Biafra war. They won't show their support openly but when you hear the vocal minority talk you will think Biafra is abomination in these areas.
You have no choice. As far as the world is concerned only IPOB is agitating for referendum now. You either campaign for your urhobo tribe and urhobo alone to join Biafra/or reject Biafra. If you reject Biafra we let you go because we won't gain a single thing from you. trust me.Just leave other tribes to decide for themselves.
Everybody will regard you as a drunkard if all you do is to type about Niger delta republic when ever IPOB makes progress on Biafra. The world only count people who stand up to demand what they want not deluded folks who can't even talk on the street about what the claim they want. You have succeeded in Blackmailing emotionally weak folks like pazienza but tough people like us will always be here to cure your type of madness which involves dragging other ethnic groups who don't want you while accusing Igbo's of same.
Enyi,leave long story.We know what we want and what we don't want.We don't want Biafra, it's a useless and meaningless proposal because you Igbos have nothing to offer. Go and form your Biafra country and leave us alone.
Dogogo1900: Enyi,leave long story.We know what we want and what we don't want.We don't want Biafra, it's a useless and meaningless proposal because you Igbos have nothing to offer. Go and form your Biafra country and leave us alone.
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[quote author=Armaggedon post=89319118] Every ethnic group has that minority at the periphery who don't identify strongly with rest of their kits and kind. But then Igbo must be different and must be talked about because they are special. Even the small urhobo has okpe and isoko who reject the urhobo tag. how much more if urhobo were to be the size of Igbo. The idoma/igede/agatu is there. ijaw/nembe/ogbia is there. Ibibio/annang/efik/ekoi , ogoni/eleme is there etc. These ones I mentioned reside in one state and manage to reject sharing identity with those they see daily. you can't compare them to Igbo's carved into several states. Even among some of those in Ika who deny their igboness none reject Biafra.
For your information, the isoko tribe has come to tell the world that they are not Urhobos. So the Urhobos respect their decision and do not go about claiming the Isokos. Okpe identifies as Urhobos.
The reason why nobody will take you serious is because of your unbelievable double standards. You claim Igbos want to annex you while including other ethnic groups that share nothing with you in your audio Niger delta republic. you claim Igbo's want to dominate you while stylishly adding some Igboland into your fantasy republic. You have learnt how to use your shout of Igbo domination as a camouflage to steal delta Igbo lands. Everyone knows how the Delta state creation movement of the old delta province included Urhobo/itshekiris/isoko and ijaw forcefully attempted to annex ukwuani into their Delta state. Itsay shagay even argued that Ukwuani were more "comfortable being with them" than their Anioma brothers. They needed ukwuani apparently because of land and natural resources while arguing that the other Igbo's should be kicked into Anambra or better still remain in Edo state who they share affinity with (as if it wasn't urhobos who share affinity with Edo)
Lol. This is really hilarious. If you know anything about Delta State, you will know that many of the tribes are not even happy that aniomas ended up in Delta State.
Most of you think that the fact that you are called minority gives you the right to deny members of majority groups their own right, thus you have weaponized your minority status.
The way you guys go about shouting minority on Nairaland. Let me give you a reality check: Igbos are majority on paper only; they are actually minority in Nigeria as things stand at the moment. An Igbo man has ruled Nigeria for only 6 months. But an Ijaw man (that you guys loved to tag minority) rule Nigeria for 6 years. Now, who is the minority in Nigeria? If your much acclaimed MAJORITY is as real as the Hausas/Fulani that has been ruling the country for years now, will you guys be agitating for Biafra?
Anyone who hears you mention of how Igbo's want to do this and that will think you have heaven and earth to offer but some of you need Igbo's more than Igbo's need you.
if the non-igbo speaking MINORITY tribes in the region need the Igbos more than oxygen as you want us to believe, then the MINORITIES are supposed to be the ones attaching themselves to the Igbos, not the other way round. Of course, you should know who originated SS/SE tag. In case you don't know, it is the Igbos. Despite being rejected severally by the different groups in the region, many Igbos still go about shouting SS/SE like their lives depended on it. I thought you guys are a proud people. Where has your pride gone?
I used to criticize KANU for adding none Igbo's into Biafra until I learnt one thing -a paradox where the one thing that can make the ethnic groups of the Niger delta to join Biafra is Igbo and the one thing that can make them not to join Biafra is Igbo. The vocal minority among the Niger delta tribes who have personal issues with some Igbo's and are therefore jealous and hateful, usually use the fear of Igbo dominance to scare other tribes against Igbo. But the silent majority among the Niger Delta ethnic groups know they don't get along as individual tribes in Niger delta rather the only thing that binds them together is the Igbo.
I won't be surprised if you have never step your foot in any major cities in the South South region. That's why you believe the propangadas IPOB is dishing out. The funny thing is that there are Igbos in these cities and still yet you guys are so ignorant about the opinions of the non-igbo tribes about Biafra. Go to Warri, Benin, Yenegoa, and Port Harcourt and sample indigenes their opinions about Biafra, then you know that you are even yet to meet the real vocal minority and the hostile majority. Your brother Pazenza has told you guys to do same too. Do Igbos get along with each other too? Nor be people just kill themselves for Anambra because of land. Of course, na Fulani kill them. The Igbo man is never at fault.
urhobo for instance is hated by all the tribes in Delta for their domineering attitude. Ijaw hates them, itshekiri hates them, they don't get along with anioma. Even the urhobo themselves complain about how ijaw try to expand/grab land in the region and how they regard Niger Delta struggle as ijaw struggle, leading to ijaw getting most amnesty programme slots.
The Ibibio efik are not different but I will not spend time on them.
Ezza/Ezzilo people dey kill each other because of land. Likewise, Ikwo and Izzi. Another land dispute in Anambra state just graced front page yesterday. Anambra man feels he is superior to all the other Igbos. Ebonyi People na rags other igbos feel say them be. But on Nairaland, Igbos are perfect people. They so much love themselves that Abia state dey sack imo indigenes from their civil service.
My point is that you vocal minority have mastered a way of bullying pro Biafrans silent majority among your people. you vocal minority know how to attack Igbo's using your minority status as a weapon of emotional blackmail against Igbo's on Biafran issue. You know quite well that silent majority of Niger delta want Biafra. That is why you lots shout down the idea of referendum. I have seen folks who tell me "we no wan talk now because Biafran agitation never get head". Two of the present senators from Bayelsa come from a family that fought on Biafra side during Biafra war. They won't show their support openly but when you hear the vocal minority talk you will think Biafra is abomination in these areas.
Lol. I know quite well that Silent Majority of Niger Delta wants Biafra. Nothing we not go hear for this Nairaland. The group that represents many of the tribes in the South South don't tell una tire to remove them from your so-called Biafra, but una say una must conduct referedum for people when don publicly reject una. Make IPOB dey deceive una. Hope you are aware that Ijaw hero fought against Biafra? Hope you know there is a day set aside as 'Boro Day' in Bayelsa State? Make IPOB dey deceive una.
You have no choice. As far as the world is concerned only IPOB is agitating for referendum now. You either campaign for your urhobo tribe and urhobo alone to join Biafra/or reject Biafra. If you reject Biafra we let you go because we won't gain a single thing from you. trust me.Just leave other tribes to decide for themselves.
Lol. I have no choice. Really? The Urhobos have already rejected Biafra. Likewise many tribes in the region. The Urhobos progress union (UPU), that is the body authorized to speak for the Urhobos, has come out to denounce Biafra openly. Please discard anybody that claims to speak for the Urhobos; he wants to scam you guys o.
Everybody will regard you as a drunkard if all you do is to type about Niger delta republic when ever IPOB makes progress on Biafra. The world only count people who stand up to demand what they want not deluded folks who can't even talk on the street about what the claim they want. You have succeeded in Blackmailing emotionally weak folks like pazienza but tough people like us will always be here to cure your type of madness which involves dragging other ethnic groups who don't want you while accusing Igbo's of same.
For your information, Biafra is as audio as a Niger Delta republic at the moment. Both do not exist. Many people believe that the Igbos are using IPOB as a ploy to get the presidency. So, Nnamdi Kanu is just running a circus show, entertaining his audience very well. I won't be surprised if AY invites him to perform in his comedy show later in the year.
Niger Delta Republic is just one of the options that the non-igbo speaking tribes will explore if Nigeria ends up dividing. So, don't work yourself up over nothing. All the concerned parties will sit at a table and come to an agreement. My issue is why you guys are so scared of the MINORITIES unifying?
The Pazienza you are calling emotionally weak is one of the few pragmatic Biafra agitators I have seen here. I liked most of his posts actually. But greed has so blinded your eyes that you cannot see the salient points he is raising.
Well, perhaps I might have been too intrusive into Nigerdeltan affairs and much of a prophet of doom. Well this is because of 2 things. I am from the northern minorities part of Nigeria, and I spent most of my life and upbringing in the Southern minorities area. In addition to that, I have been a northern minorities activist for the last 10 years. If not for this covid pandemic, I was supposed to be having a meeting I organized for the youth leaders of some of the largest minority groups in the north/middlebelt.
So, I am not just one who comes to rant unnecessarily online and have no relationship whatsoever with my online agitations in real life.
I don't think any of you have been involved in grassroot mobilization or the study of minorities as I have been. I don't mean to Bragg.
You guys should not just be online commentators who come out to defend Nigerdelta on nairaland without a concrete firsthand relationship of the lives, mentalities and relationships of minority groups, especially as pertain to seccession or nation building.
I don't know how well you guys have studied the Breakup of Yugoslavia? Pls if any of you have not done that, I strongly advice you do so.... Likewise the partition of India, breakup war of Bangladesh and subsequent seccesionist agitations of Balochistan, Sikhs & Tamils/Dravidians.
See, if you guys really love your Nigerdelta identity as you claim and you are not just acting as spoilers. I suggest that you guys begin real physical ground work on the feasibility of a Nigerdeltan union before it is too late. Nigeria is sitting on a ticking time bomb and when the explosion takes places, those who are not well prepared will be left gnashing their teeth. I have seen this and that is why people like me and others have taken up the task of enlightening my own people in this regard.
I am currently writing a voluminous book which will help my own people (northern minorities) understand ourselves, our territory, unity and everything else if peradventure division comes knocking. These are a few among many other things we are doing in our own capacity at the moment.
Now, let me give you guys these 2 examples from the breakup of Yugoslavia and India. The demography of these 2 countries may be different from what we have in Nigeria, however at least they can give a picture.
1) THOSE WHO DON'T PREPARE AHEAD GNASH THEIR TEETH.
Slovenes & Croatians begun the seccesionist agitations to counter Serbian aggression & expansion. Meanwhile, Bosnians & Kosovoans were watching, perhaps acting as SPOILERS at that time, who knows.
When Croats & Slovenes successfully left, repelled and cleansed Serbians from their territories and Serbians knew it was lost in both territories, they had no other option but to descend on the weaker and silent Bosnians & Kosovoans in a desperate attempt to gain more territory. Till today, the world is still lamenting of Serbian atrocities and genocide against Bosnians & Kosovoans (ethnic Albanians).
This is what happens to people who are not ready when the shiit hits the fan! If not for US-NATO timely intervention, Bosnians & Kosovan Albanians would have been completely destroyed by Serbs.
Had it been Bosnians & Kosovans were well prepared and actively behind Croats & Slovenes when the whole katakata begun, It would have been impossible for the Serbs to decimate them in the manner they did. So you people should ask yourselves where the Nigerdeltans will fall in all of these.
2) DIVISION BRINGS MORE AND MORE DIVISIONS AS NATIONALISM IS A VIRUS
After the partition of India along religious lines, Bengalis (East Pakistan) clearly saw that they could not cope with West Pakistan and Bengalis lost 3 million people who were massacred by Pakistani soldiers. Perhaps, half of Begali population would have been killed if not for India's intervention and today we have Bangladesh. Now Balochistan has started their own agitation to breakaway from Pakistan. All of these are inspite of the fact that everyone has his or her own region in Pakistan where they control their own rescources! So why are people still wanting out? Ethnic differences and ethnic nationalism. Simple! Sikhs & Tamils have had their own seccesionist movements from India too.
Yugoslavians are one people who speak the same language, but religion was their only problem, yet they divided into 7 countries and still counting till today ... Why not just 3? Since Orthodoxy, Catholicism & Islam were the only 3 religious divisions in Yugoslavia. That is the virus of nationalism! Montenegro still broke out of Serbia later on. Pakistanis had one religion but ethnicity still divided the country. .
Imagine if countries that had strong uniting factors such as religion, ethnicity & language were dividing themselves, how much more a so called Nigerdeltan republic only united by Anti-Igbo sentiments and nothing else?
Some of you also make the mistake to think that the division of a country where strong nationalist sentiments come into play is the same as living in a one Nigeria peacefully under the might of the federal govt? I laugh at such naivety
There must be a clear partition in places where ethnic nationalities meet each other! A place like Warri cannot coexist with the 3 different tribes intertwined as a homeland, whether in a separate country or in the same new country with autonomous ethnic regions! It is impossible. But if you guys think it is possible, then I say Goodluck.
Ijaw autonomous region or Itsekiri autonomous region must have their own well defined maritime & land boundaries defining their own rescources! Cos this time around it will no longer be Delta state maritime boundaries or rescources controlled by the FG. It is every ethnic group to his rescources and everyone will want to fight to get the largesse of the auction when the auction period begins. A look at South Sudan should give a clue.
There must be a form of partition. Same with rural/urban Benin where Ijaw & Benin communities intertwine. Same with Ikwerre & Ijaws in PH.
For me, I have chosen not be the overtly optimistic and naive 'all is well' person cos history will always repeat itself, time and time over again.
For my own people for example, we have 3 problematic areas where there must be a partition!
1) The Hausa fulani Kanuri land boundary
This boundary will be very bloody and we have to be prepared for a war and religious partition in this boundary, cos the Hausa fulanis are unreasonable human beings who only speak the language of VIOLENCE, they don't believe in dialogue. The religious partition has already begun gradually and it will blow up in the next few years. This I can promise. Infact this could be the precipitate to the division of Nigeria.
2) The Tiv- Taraba/Nasarawa boundary.
Tivs & Jukuns (Taraba)/Alagos (Nasarawa) are all middlebelt people, but unlike you naive souls, I know that we cannot live together as a people cos our values are not the same, regardless of us being Christians. Tivs are Bantu people and expansionists by nature. The conflicts and bad blood in that area is endless. There must be a partion!
And we will even have this partition before the breakup of Nigeria. By next year or at least 2022, all the Tiv & Taraba elders, traditional leaders must sit down and this issue settled forever. All the Tivs in Taraba would have to relocate to Benue and all the Jukuns in Benue would have to relocate to Taraba, leaving their ancestral homelands. Since Taraba has more lands and Tivs more number in Taraba, we may have to cede some more lands to the Tivs for peace to reign.
3) The Egbira-Bassa-Gbayi frontier
Bassas & Gbagyis have same mentality and orientation and can easily live together, but Egburas are another people entirely.
There are up to 4 LGAs in Kogi, Nasarawa & FCT where these 3 tribes intertwine. There have been conflicts and the bad blood is strong. Without a clear-cut partition, the war in this area will not be a joke. All Bassas & Gbagyis must peacefully leave their ancestral lands in Koton Karfe LGA and Abaji town, while Egburas must leave Abaji rural, Toto & Bassa LGAs. Cos without this partition, there is no way in hell, you can define Egbura, Bassa & Gbagyi homelands distinctly without encroaching into the territories of the other ethnic groups.
So, those of you including me as a prophet of doom for your 'Utopia Nigerdeltan republic of harmony' should know that I am doing this just because I have a more practical understanding of these issues and not because I am pro-Igbo or just want you people to join BIAFRA.
I personally do not support minorities being in a BIAFRA if it will be a unitary nation! If there must be a BIAFRA with minorities involved, it will be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or even the EU model and the minorities I picture in such a union are probably not even you Southern minorities but my own people (northern minorities).
Cos I don't think any reasonable united group of people should dream of forming a country with you Nigerdeltans, cos you people are a stacked pack of cards waiting to crumble after the only glue (anti-Igbo) that holds you together no longer exists.
I will never act as a spoiler to the Biafran cause because I know that if Nigeria must divide, the rest of us must work together to realize this, after which everybody will find his way. And those who are not prepared will be likely visited by the atrocities of Bosnia & Kosovo.
So, just as an Igbo person here suggested, you Nigerdeltans should take your Nigerdeltan republic agitation to the forefront and let it be known, so that the Igbos/Igbos can take you people as an equal partner in the struggle and no longer subsume you.
Cos by law standards, Igbos are not wrong in including you guys into Biafran agitation, especially the Ijaws & Akwa-cross people! You people were a part of the old Eastern region which the world and UN recognize as the historical territory/agitation of BIAFRA.
If the UN & Nigeria must bring a referendum to BIAFRA, it must be on the grounds of the territories of the defunct Biafran state. Delta/Edo people are safer cos they were not officially part of the old Eastern region internationally recognized as BIAFRA.
@Ix3as I always emphasize the fact that I am not Igbo, cos nairaland has a narrowed lense of looking and labelling everything in the Yoruba/Igbo dichotomy. Everyone who talks in a certain way is either Afonja or Igbo and you know this.
I joined nairaland around 2012 when Tribalism & seccession vibes were at an all time low and people did not feel the need to create fake monikers for impersonation. I never for once since that time claimed to be Igbo, but a middlebelter, so I wonder why your brain should think that I suddenly turned Igbo overnight. Go and check the threads I created since 2012 and see what they are about.
Stpuid IPOB rats you can't be the silent majority I speak off but the ranting insignificant propagandists
Keep quiet , hammerp has slapped you around with evidence of your people who are hardcore IPOB and all you could do is rant like a mad goat!! I spit on you, you are sad !
Keep quiet , hammerp has slapped you around with evidence of your people who are hardcore IPOB and all you could do is rant like a mad goat!! I spit on you, you are sad !
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Hehehehe pained IPOB rats! Their scam exposed and the fool chokes on their 419 heritage You fathers died like rats fed on otapiapia, yours will be double...
Hehehehe pained IPOB rats! Their scam exposed and the fool chokes on their 419 heritage You fathers died like rats fed on otapiapia, yours will be double...
In the Nigerdelta and even the Middlebelt, there are strong supporters of BIAFRA.
I have met many Ijaws, Urhobos, Akwa-cross, Ogonis and even Edos who are pro-Biafra. Cos everyone is getting tired of the fulani republic of Nigeria. Before the Python dance, Nnamdi Kanu wanted to go to Kaduna because a Southern Kaduna leader who is pro Biafran invited him over.
The majority of Nigerdeltans however are neutral for the moment, likewise Middlebelt, cos majority have not even understood what is at stake. The more the Hausa fulanis continue their campaign of oppression and expansionism, the more the sympathy of BIAFRA grows.
2 years ago, I attacked and insulted IPOB members wherever I found them, but today as an emerging middlebelt youth leader, I am telling and teaching my people why we need to allign with Igbos and the ideas of BIAFRA.
The tide is changing and by 2023, it will get to a breaking point. It will be far far beyond all those that only come online to comment Nigerdeltan republic at the fear of Biafran progress.
One funny thing most of you don't know is that your destinies are tied to that of the Igbos and to an extent, northern christians in Nigeria. Nigeria does not give you the option to sit on the fence. Lai-lai.
If Igbo agitation or Northern christians agitations for example spirals into a war/killings, do you think Nigerdeltans will be spared or differentiated anywhere they are found by Hausa-fulanis or Northern muslims?
From Abuja down to the entire North, people cannot tell the difference between an Igbo, Ibibio, Ishan, Urhobo or Efik!..... Even Yorubas cannot differentiate between Igbos & Nigerdeltans, let alone Northern people.
You guys really have no option than to either partner with BIAFRA directly or flag off your NDR and partner it with BIAFRA.
Well, perhaps I might have been too intrusive into Nigerdeltan affairs and much of a prophet of doom. Well this is because of 2 things. I am from the northern minorities part of Nigeria, and I spent most of my life and upbringing in the Southern minorities area. In addition to that, I have been a northern minorities activist for the last 10 years. If not for this covid pandemic, I was supposed to be having a meeting I organized for the youth leaders of some of the largest minority groups in the north/middlebelt.
So, I am not just one who comes to rant unnecessarily online and have no relationship whatsoever with my online agitations in real life.
I don't think any of you have been involved in grassroot mobilization or the study of minorities as I have been. I don't mean to Bragg.
You guys should not just be online commentators who come out to defend Nigerdelta on nairaland without a concrete firsthand relationship of the lives, mentalities and relationships of minority groups, especially as pertain to seccession or nation building.
I don't know how well you guys have studied the Breakup of Yugoslavia? Pls if any of you have not done that, I strongly advice you do so.... Likewise the partition of India, breakup war of Bangladesh and subsequent seccesionist agitations of Balochistan, Sikhs & Tamils/Dravidians.
See, if you guys really love your Nigerdelta identity as you claim and you are not just acting as spoilers. I suggest that you guys begin real physical ground work on the feasibility of a Nigerdeltan union before it is too late. Nigeria is sitting on a ticking time bomb and when the explosion takes places, those who are not well prepared will be left gnashing their teeth. I have seen this and that is why people like me and others have taken up the task of enlightening my own people in this regard.
I am currently writing a voluminous book which will help my own people (northern minorities) understand ourselves, our territory, unity and everything else if peradventure division comes knocking. These are a few among many other things we are doing in our own capacity at the moment.
Now, let me give you guys these 2 examples from the breakup of Yugoslavia and India. The demography of these 2 countries may be different from what we have in Nigeria, however at least they can give a picture.
1) THOSE WHO DON'T PREPARE AHEAD GNASH THEIR TEETH.
Slovenes & Croatians begun the seccesionist agitations to counter Serbian aggression & expansion. Meanwhile, Bosnians & Kosovoans were watching, perhaps acting as SPOILERS at that time, who knows.
When Croats & Slovenes successfully left, repelled and cleansed Serbians from their territories and Serbians knew it was lost in both territories, they had no other option but to descend on the weaker and silent Bosnians & Kosovoans in a desperate attempt to gain more territory. Till today, the world is still lamenting of Serbian atrocities and genocide against Bosnians & Kosovoans (ethnic Albanians).
This is what happens to people who are not ready when the shiit hits the fan! If not for US-NATO timely intervention, Bosnians & Kosovan Albanians would have been completely destroyed by Serbs.
Had it been Bosnians & Kosovans were well prepared and actively behind Croats & Slovenes when the whole katakata begun, It would have been impossible for the Serbs to decimate them in the manner they did. So you people should ask yourselves where the Nigerdeltans will fall in all of these.
2) DIVISION BRINGS MORE AND MORE DIVISIONS AS NATIONALISM IS A VIRUS
After the partition of India along religious lines, Bengalis (East Pakistan) clearly saw that they could not cope with West Pakistan and Bengalis lost 3 million people who were massacred by Pakistani soldiers. Perhaps, half of Begali population would have been killed if not for India's intervention and today we have Bangladesh. Now Balochistan has started their own agitation to breakaway from Pakistan. All of these are inspite of the fact that everyone has his or her own region in Pakistan where they control their own rescources! So why are people still wanting out? Ethnic differences and ethnic nationalism. Simple! Sikhs & Tamils have had their own seccesionist movements from India too.
Yugoslavians are one people who speak the same language, but religion was their only problem, yet they divided into 7 countries and still counting till today ... Why not just 3? Since Orthodoxy, Catholicism & Islam were the only 3 religious divisions in Yugoslavia. That is the virus of nationalism! Montenegro still broke out of Serbia later on. Pakistanis had one religion but ethnicity still divided the country. .
Imagine if countries that had strong uniting factors such as religion, ethnicity & language were dividing themselves, how much more a so called Nigerdeltan republic only united by Anti-Igbo sentiments and nothing else?
Some of you also make the mistake to think that the division of a country where strong nationalist sentiments come into play is the same as living in a one Nigeria peacefully under the might of the federal govt? I laugh at such naivety
There must be a clear partition in places where ethnic nationalities meet each other! A place like Warri cannot coexist with the 3 different tribes intertwined as a homeland, whether in a separate country or in the same new country with autonomous ethnic regions! It is impossible. But if you guys think it is possible, then I say Goodluck.
Ijaw autonomous region or Itsekiri autonomous region must have their own well defined maritime & land boundaries defining their own rescources! Cos this time around it will no longer be Delta state maritime boundaries or rescources controlled by the FG. It is every ethnic group to his rescources and everyone will want to fight to get the largesse of the auction when the auction period begins. A look at South Sudan should give a clue.
There must be a form of partition. Same with rural/urban Benin where Ijaw & Benin communities intertwine. Same with Ikwerre & Ijaws in PH.
For me, I have chosen not be the overtly optimistic and naive 'all is well' person cos history will always repeat itself, time and time over again.
For my own people for example, we have 3 problematic areas where there must be a partition!
1) The Hausa fulani Kanuri land boundary
This boundary will be very bloody and we have to be prepared for a war and religious partition in this boundary, cos the Hausa fulanis are unreasonable human beings who only speak the language of VIOLENCE, they don't believe in dialogue. The religious partition has already begun gradually and it will blow up in the next few years. This I can promise. Infact this could be the precipitate to the division of Nigeria.
2) The Tiv- Taraba/Nasarawa boundary.
Tivs & Jukuns (Taraba)/Alagos (Nasarawa) are all middlebelt people, but unlike you naive souls, I know that we cannot live together as a people cos our values are not the same, regardless of us being Christians. Tivs are Bantu people and expansionists by nature. The conflicts and bad blood in that area is endless. There must be a partion!
And we will even have this partition before the breakup of Nigeria. By next year or at least 2022, all the Tiv & Taraba elders, traditional leaders must sit down and this issue settled forever. All the Tivs in Taraba would have to relocate to Benue and all the Jukuns in Benue would have to relocate to Taraba, leaving their ancestral homelands. Since Taraba has more lands and Tivs more number in Taraba, we may have to cede some more lands to the Tivs for peace to reign.
3) The Egbira-Bassa-Gbayi frontier
Bassas & Gbagyis have same mentality and orientation and can easily live together, but Egburas are another people entirely.
There are up to 4 LGAs in Kogi, Nasarawa & FCT where these 3 tribes intertwine. There have been conflicts and the bad blood is strong. Without a clear-cut partition, the war in this area will not be a joke. All Bassas & Gbagyis must peacefully leave their ancestral lands in Koton Karfe LGA and Abaji town, while Egburas must leave Abaji rural, Toto & Bassa LGAs. Cos without this partition, there is no way in hell, you can define Egbura, Bassa & Gbagyi homelands distinctly without encroaching into the territories of the other ethnic groups.
So, those of you including me as a prophet of doom for your 'Utopia Nigerdeltan republic of harmony' should know that I am doing this just because I have a more practical understanding of these issues and not because I am pro-Igbo or just want you people to join BIAFRA.
I personally do not support minorities being in a BIAFRA if it will be a unitary nation! If there must be a BIAFRA with minorities involved, it will be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or even the EU model and the minorities I picture in such a union are probably not even you Southern minorities but my own people (northern minorities).
Cos I don't think any reasonable united group of people should dream of forming a country with you Nigerdeltans, cos you people are a stacked pack of cards waiting to crumble after the only glue (anti-Igbo) that holds you together no longer exists.
I will never act as a spoiler to the Biafran cause because I know that if Nigeria must divide, the rest of us must work together to realize this, after which everybody will find his way. And those who are not prepared will be likely visited by the atrocities of Bosnia & Kosovo.
So, just as an Igbo person here suggested, you Nigerdeltans should take your Nigerdeltan republic agitation to the forefront and let it be known, so that the Igbos/Igbos can take you people as an equal partner in the struggle and no longer subsume you.
Cos by law standards, Igbos are not wrong in including you guys into Biafran agitation, especially the Ijaws & Akwa-cross people! You people were a part of the old Eastern region which the world and UN recognize as the historical territory/agitation of BIAFRA.
If the UN & Nigeria must bring a referendum to BIAFRA, it must be on the grounds of the territories of the defunct Biafran state. Delta/Edo people are safer cos they were not officially part of the old Eastern region internationally recognized as BIAFRA.
@Ix3as I always emphasize the fact that I am not Igbo, cos nairaland has a narrowed lense of looking and labelling everything in the Yoruba/Igbo dichotomy. Everyone who talks in a certain way is either Afonja or Igbo and you know this.
I joined nairaland around 2012 when Tribalism & seccession vibes were at an all time low and people did not feel the need to create fake monikers for impersonation. I never for once since that time claimed to be Igbo, but a middlebelter, so I wonder why your brain should think that I suddenly turned Igbo overnight. Go and check the threads I created since 2012 and see what they are about.
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If predictions is this simple, Nigeria by all the CIAs and other Western countries would long be extinct. But do you really think that the Hausas now becoming more and more aware of their history and how the Fulani's took over their kingdoms will still continued playing balls if Nigeria gets to split? The Kanuris control their territory why will the Hausa's still want to be under the Fulani's?
Hehehehe pained IPOB rats! Their scam exposed and the fool chokes on their 419 heritage You fathers died like rats fed on otapiapia, yours will be double...
You are shameless....were these videos hammerp posted scams? You are just a jealous and hateful punk using ipob to unleash your filth
In the Nigerdelta and even the Middlebelt, there are strong supporters of BIAFRA.
I have met many Ijaws, Urhobos, Akwa-cross, Ogonis and even Edos who are pro-Biafra. Cos everyone is getting tired of the fulani republic of Nigeria. Before the Python dance, Nnamdi Kanu wanted to go to Kaduna because a Southern Kaduna leader who is pro Biafran invited him over.
The majority of Nigerdeltans however are neutral for the moment, likewise Middlebelt, cos majority have not even understood what is at stake. The more the Hausa fulanis continue their campaign of oppression and expansionism, the more the sympathy of BIAFRA grows.
2 years ago, I attacked and insulted IPOB members wherever I found them, but today as an emerging middlebelt youth leader, I am telling and teaching my people why we need to allign with Igbos and the ideas of BIAFRA.
The tide is changing and by 2023, it will get to a breaking point. It will be far far beyond all those that only come online to comment Nigerdeltan republic at the fear of Biafran progress.
One funny thing most of you don't know is that your destinies are tied to that of the Igbos and to an extent, northern christians in Nigeria. Nigeria does not give you the option to sit on the fence. Lai-lai.
If Igbo agitation or Northern christians agitations for example spirals into a war/killings, do you think Nigerdeltans will be spared or differentiated anywhere they are found by Hausa-fulanis or Northern muslims?
From Abuja down to the entire North, people cannot tell the difference between an Igbo, Ibibio, Ishan, Urhobo or Efik!..... Even Yorubas cannot differentiate between Igbos & Nigerdeltans, let alone Northern people.
You guys really have no option than to either partner with BIAFRA directly or flag off your NDR and partner it with BIAFRA.
May God help us.
ALL LOVERS OF LIFE, KNOW TO REMAIN IN NIGERIA IS A DEATH SENTENCE.
U ESCAPE TODAY, WAT ABOUT TOMORROW.
SO MANY LIVES WASTED IN THIS COUNTRY.
SO MANY UNNECESSARY DEATHS.
SO MUCH PAIN AND DESTINY LOST.
PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO BE DOCTORS, END UP AS CONDUCTORS.
EVERY NOW AND THEN, FULANI WILL GO ROUND AND KILL OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS FOR RELIGIOUS REASON.
THEY KEEP GIVING US DUNCES AS PRESIDENT.
OUR PEOPLE KEEP RUNNING ABROAD AND MANY DIE IN THE PROCESS IN DESERT AND SEA CROSSING.
NATURALLY, PEOPLE START TO SEARCH FOR THE SOURCE OF ALL THIS PROBLEM IN THEIR LIVES AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY KNOW IT IS NIGERIA.
THOSE WITH BRAIN WANT OUT, THE DUNCES THAT HOPE TO GO TO GOVERNMENT AND CONTINUE THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM WILL ALWAY BE AGAINST DISMANTLING THE STATUS QUO.
EFEWESTERN AND CO ARE CORRUPT NIGERIANS THAT HOPE ONE DAY TO JOIN THE RULING CABAL AND LOOT.
WEN THEY TALK, U KNOW THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER BUT TRYING TO KEEP THINGS AS THEY ARE.
WE EXPECT TO EXIT NIGERIA WITH THE MIDDLE BELT.
NNAMDI KANU HAVE SAID THAT PLENTY TIMES
THE PROBLEM IS THE CORE NORTH AND THEIR SW SIDE KICK THAT CONTROL THE MEDIA AND LIE FOR THEM, WHILST ACTING AS ACCOMPLICE.
ASK EFEWESTERN WAT IS PURSUING URHOBO PEOPLE, IN THIS VIDEO FROM THEIR ANCESTRAL LAND IN BROAD DAY LIGHT.
Well, perhaps I might have been too intrusive into Nigerdeltan affairs and much of a prophet of doom. Well this is because of 2 things. I am from the northern minorities part of Nigeria, and I spent most of my life and upbringing in the Southern minorities area. In addition to that, I have been a northern minorities activist for the last 10 years. If not for this covid pandemic, I was supposed to be having a meeting I organized for the youth leaders of some of the largest minority groups in the north/middlebelt.
So, I am not just one who comes to rant unnecessarily online and have no relationship whatsoever with my online agitations in real life.
I don't think any of you have been involved in grassroot mobilization or the study of minorities as I have been. I don't mean to Bragg.
You guys should not just be online commentators who come out to defend Nigerdelta on nairaland without a concrete firsthand relationship of the lives, mentalities and relationships of minority groups, especially as pertain to seccession or nation building.
I don't know how well you guys have studied the Breakup of Yugoslavia? Pls if any of you have not done that, I strongly advice you do so.... Likewise the partition of India, breakup war of Bangladesh and subsequent seccesionist agitations of Balochistan, Sikhs & Tamils/Dravidians.
See, if you guys really love your Nigerdelta identity as you claim and you are not just acting as spoilers. I suggest that you guys begin real physical ground work on the feasibility of a Nigerdeltan union before it is too late. Nigeria is sitting on a ticking time bomb and when the explosion takes places, those who are not well prepared will be left gnashing their teeth. I have seen this and that is why people like me and others have taken up the task of enlightening my own people in this regard.
I am currently writing a voluminous book which will help my own people (northern minorities) understand ourselves, our territory, unity and everything else if peradventure division comes knocking. These are a few among many other things we are doing in our own capacity at the moment.
Now, let me give you guys these 2 examples from the breakup of Yugoslavia and India. The demography of these 2 countries may be different from what we have in Nigeria, however at least they can give a picture.
1) THOSE WHO DON'T PREPARE AHEAD GNASH THEIR TEETH.
Slovenes & Croatians begun the seccesionist agitations to counter Serbian aggression & expansion. Meanwhile, Bosnians & Kosovoans were watching, perhaps acting as SPOILERS at that time, who knows.
When Croats & Slovenes successfully left, repelled and cleansed Serbians from their territories and Serbians knew it was lost in both territories, they had no other option but to descend on the weaker and silent Bosnians & Kosovoans in a desperate attempt to gain more territory. Till today, the world is still lamenting of Serbian atrocities and genocide against Bosnians & Kosovoans (ethnic Albanians).
This is what happens to people who are not ready when the shiit hits the fan! If not for US-NATO timely intervention, Bosnians & Kosovan Albanians would have been completely destroyed by Serbs.
Had it been Bosnians & Kosovans were well prepared and actively behind Croats & Slovenes when the whole katakata begun, It would have been impossible for the Serbs to decimate them in the manner they did. So you people should ask yourselves where the Nigerdeltans will fall in all of these.
2) DIVISION BRINGS MORE AND MORE DIVISIONS AS NATIONALISM IS A VIRUS
After the partition of India along religious lines, Bengalis (East Pakistan) clearly saw that they could not cope with West Pakistan and Bengalis lost 3 million people who were massacred by Pakistani soldiers. Perhaps, half of Begali population would have been killed if not for India's intervention and today we have Bangladesh. Now Balochistan has started their own agitation to breakaway from Pakistan. All of these are inspite of the fact that everyone has his or her own region in Pakistan where they control their own rescources! So why are people still wanting out? Ethnic differences and ethnic nationalism. Simple! Sikhs & Tamils have had their own seccesionist movements from India too.
Yugoslavians are one people who speak the same language, but religion was their only problem, yet they divided into 7 countries and still counting till today ... Why not just 3? Since Orthodoxy, Catholicism & Islam were the only 3 religious divisions in Yugoslavia. That is the virus of nationalism! Montenegro still broke out of Serbia later on. Pakistanis had one religion but ethnicity still divided the country. .
Imagine if countries that had strong uniting factors such as religion, ethnicity & language were dividing themselves, how much more a so called Nigerdeltan republic only united by Anti-Igbo sentiments and nothing else?
Some of you also make the mistake to think that the division of a country where strong nationalist sentiments come into play is the same as living in a one Nigeria peacefully under the might of the federal govt? I laugh at such naivety
There must be a clear partition in places where ethnic nationalities meet each other! A place like Warri cannot coexist with the 3 different tribes intertwined as a homeland, whether in a separate country or in the same new country with autonomous ethnic regions! It is impossible. But if you guys think it is possible, then I say Goodluck.
Ijaw autonomous region or Itsekiri autonomous region must have their own well defined maritime & land boundaries defining their own rescources! Cos this time around it will no longer be Delta state maritime boundaries or rescources controlled by the FG. It is every ethnic group to his rescources and everyone will want to fight to get the largesse of the auction when the auction period begins. A look at South Sudan should give a clue.
There must be a form of partition. Same with rural/urban Benin where Ijaw & Benin communities intertwine. Same with Ikwerre & Ijaws in PH.
For me, I have chosen not be the overtly optimistic and naive 'all is well' person cos history will always repeat itself, time and time over again.
For my own people for example, we have 3 problematic areas where there must be a partition!
1) The Hausa fulani Kanuri land boundary
This boundary will be very bloody and we have to be prepared for a war and religious partition in this boundary, cos the Hausa fulanis are unreasonable human beings who only speak the language of VIOLENCE, they don't believe in dialogue. The religious partition has already begun gradually and it will blow up in the next few years. This I can promise. Infact this could be the precipitate to the division of Nigeria.
2) The Tiv- Taraba/Nasarawa boundary.
Tivs & Jukuns (Taraba)/Alagos (Nasarawa) are all middlebelt people, but unlike you naive souls, I know that we cannot live together as a people cos our values are not the same, regardless of us being Christians. Tivs are Bantu people and expansionists by nature. The conflicts and bad blood in that area is endless. There must be a partion!
And we will even have this partition before the breakup of Nigeria. By next year or at least 2022, all the Tiv & Taraba elders, traditional leaders must sit down and this issue settled forever. All the Tivs in Taraba would have to relocate to Benue and all the Jukuns in Benue would have to relocate to Taraba, leaving their ancestral homelands. Since Taraba has more lands and Tivs more number in Taraba, we may have to cede some more lands to the Tivs for peace to reign.
3) The Egbira-Bassa-Gbayi frontier
Bassas & Gbagyis have same mentality and orientation and can easily live together, but Egburas are another people entirely.
There are up to 4 LGAs in Kogi, Nasarawa & FCT where these 3 tribes intertwine. There have been conflicts and the bad blood is strong. Without a clear-cut partition, the war in this area will not be a joke. All Bassas & Gbagyis must peacefully leave their ancestral lands in Koton Karfe LGA and Abaji town, while Egburas must leave Abaji rural, Toto & Bassa LGAs. Cos without this partition, there is no way in hell, you can define Egbura, Bassa & Gbagyi homelands distinctly without encroaching into the territories of the other ethnic groups.
So, those of you including me as a prophet of doom for your 'Utopia Nigerdeltan republic of harmony' should know that I am doing this just because I have a more practical understanding of these issues and not because I am pro-Igbo or just want you people to join BIAFRA.
I personally do not support minorities being in a BIAFRA if it will be a unitary nation! If there must be a BIAFRA with minorities involved, it will be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or even the EU model and the minorities I picture in such a union are probably not even you Southern minorities but my own people (northern minorities).
Cos I don't think any reasonable united group of people should dream of forming a country with you Nigerdeltans, cos you people are a stacked pack of cards waiting to crumble after the only glue (anti-Igbo) that holds you together no longer exists.
I will never act as a spoiler to the Biafran cause because I know that if Nigeria must divide, the rest of us must work together to realize this, after which everybody will find his way. And those who are not prepared will be likely visited by the atrocities of Bosnia & Kosovo.
So, just as an Igbo person here suggested, you Nigerdeltans should take your Nigerdeltan republic agitation to the forefront and let it be known, so that the Igbos/Igbos can take you people as an equal partner in the struggle and no longer subsume you.
Cos by law standards, Igbos are not wrong in including you guys into Biafran agitation, especially the Ijaws & Akwa-cross people! You people were a part of the old Eastern region which the world and UN recognize as the historical territory/agitation of BIAFRA.
If the UN & Nigeria must bring a referendum to BIAFRA, it must be on the grounds of the territories of the defunct Biafran state. Delta/Edo people are safer cos they were not officially part of the old Eastern region internationally recognized as BIAFRA.
@Ix3as I always emphasize the fact that I am not Igbo, cos nairaland has a narrowed lense of looking and labelling everything in the Yoruba/Igbo dichotomy. Everyone who talks in a certain way is either Afonja or Igbo and you know this.
I joined nairaland around 2012 when Tribalism & seccession vibes were at an all time low and people did not feel the need to create fake monikers for impersonation. I never for once since that time claimed to be Igbo, but a middlebelter, so I wonder why your brain should think that I suddenly turned Igbo overnight. Go and check the threads I created since 2012 and see what they are about.
Why do you think anti-igbo sentiments are the glue keeping the minority tribes in the South South region together? So you honestly believe what is stopping the Urhobos, Ijaws, and Itsekiris from killing themselve in Warri again is because they don't like an Mbaise man from Imo State?
Why do you think anyone from a minority tribe that is against the addition of his tribe to Biafra is a spoiler?
Your thoughts on these issues will be highly appreciated. At least, we are having an intelligent conversation.
TheGodlessGod: @Nowenuse any Edo person that claim he's Biafran, don't take him seriously.
We know our history and territory so no need in interfering in other people business
This response is more mature and straight to the point instead of all those insults you guys are throwing around and hoping to blackmail us. However, knowing your history has nothing to do with this. Every Nigerian knows their history...An Edo man is not any more proud than Anambra man. So, make una chill
Why do you think anti-igbo sentiments are the glue keeping the minority tribes in the South South region together? So you honestly believe what is stopping the Urhobos, Ijaws, and Itsekiris from killing themselve in Warri again is because they don't like an Mbaise man from Imo State?
Why do you think anyone from a minority tribe that doesn't support Biafra is a spoiler?
Your thoughts on these issues will be highly appreciated. At least, we are having an intelligent conversation.
Oga , nothing you write here will be respected because most of your initial posts are filled with bigotry , hate , resentment towards the Igbo. You didnt come here to have an intelligent conversation. You only barked down because a non Igbo intervened and schooled you Niger Deltans like the dunces you rightly are.
This response is more mature and straight to the point instead of all those insults you guys are throwing around and hoping to blackmail us. However, knowing your history has nothing to do with this. Every Nigerian knows their history...An Edo man is not any more proud than Anambra man. So, make una chill
EDO PEOPLE WERE THE FIRST GROUP ON YOUTUBE IN SS TO STATE THEY ARE BIAFRANS.
THEY ARE THE MOST PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE, CALLING FOR BIAFRA.
Quit showing these videos already. They are embarrassing. One or two Edo people claiming to be Biafrans means nothing when we know that an overwhelming majority of Edo grassroots are anti Biafra. There are many U tube videos of Igbos from SE denying Biafra too while claiming Nigeria. Heck! Enugu state governor denied Biafra. Does it now mean that we don't know that overwhelming majority of Igbos are Biafra sympathizers?
This IPOB unity begging thing is a disgrace to Ndiigbo. Kedu ebe Ifele unu di? Kedu udili brainwashing bu ife bikonu? Osa nyelu Igbo aka, maka na Ike agwu gom! IPOB has finished our people thinking abilities. This mental damage on Igbo from IPOB is deep and might take time to salvage. I'm scared already. I didn't know this damage was this deep. Something needs to be done ASAP.
Well, perhaps I might have been too intrusive into Nigerdeltan affairs and much of a prophet of doom. Well this is because of 2 things. I am from the northern minorities part of Nigeria, and I spent most of my life and upbringing in the Southern minorities area. In addition to that, I have been a northern minorities activist for the last 10 years. If not for this covid pandemic, I was supposed to be having a meeting I organized for the youth leaders of some of the largest minority groups in the north/middlebelt.
So, I am not just one who comes to rant unnecessarily online and have no relationship whatsoever with my online agitations in real life.
I don't think any of you have been involved in grassroot mobilization or the study of minorities as I have been. I don't mean to Bragg.
You guys should not just be online commentators who come out to defend Nigerdelta on nairaland without a concrete firsthand relationship of the lives, mentalities and relationships of minority groups, especially as pertain to seccession or nation building.
I don't know how well you guys have studied the Breakup of Yugoslavia? Pls if any of you have not done that, I strongly advice you do so.... Likewise the partition of India, breakup war of Bangladesh and subsequent seccesionist agitations of Balochistan, Sikhs & Tamils/Dravidians.
See, if you guys really love your Nigerdelta identity as you claim and you are not just acting as spoilers. I suggest that you guys begin real physical ground work on the feasibility of a Nigerdeltan union before it is too late. Nigeria is sitting on a ticking time bomb and when the explosion takes places, those who are not well prepared will be left gnashing their teeth. I have seen this and that is why people like me and others have taken up the task of enlightening my own people in this regard.
I am currently writing a voluminous book which will help my own people (northern minorities) understand ourselves, our territory, unity and everything else if peradventure division comes knocking. These are a few among many other things we are doing in our own capacity at the moment.
Now, let me give you guys these 2 examples from the breakup of Yugoslavia and India. The demography of these 2 countries may be different from what we have in Nigeria, however at least they can give a picture.
1) THOSE WHO DON'T PREPARE AHEAD GNASH THEIR TEETH.
Slovenes & Croatians begun the seccesionist agitations to counter Serbian aggression & expansion. Meanwhile, Bosnians & Kosovoans were watching, perhaps acting as SPOILERS at that time, who knows.
When Croats & Slovenes successfully left, repelled and cleansed Serbians from their territories and Serbians knew it was lost in both territories, they had no other option but to descend on the weaker and silent Bosnians & Kosovoans in a desperate attempt to gain more territory. Till today, the world is still lamenting of Serbian atrocities and genocide against Bosnians & Kosovoans (ethnic Albanians).
This is what happens to people who are not ready when the shiit hits the fan! If not for US-NATO timely intervention, Bosnians & Kosovan Albanians would have been completely destroyed by Serbs.
Had it been Bosnians & Kosovans were well prepared and actively behind Croats & Slovenes when the whole katakata begun, It would have been impossible for the Serbs to decimate them in the manner they did. So you people should ask yourselves where the Nigerdeltans will fall in all of these.
2) DIVISION BRINGS MORE AND MORE DIVISIONS AS NATIONALISM IS A VIRUS
After the partition of India along religious lines, Bengalis (East Pakistan) clearly saw that they could not cope with West Pakistan and Bengalis lost 3 million people who were massacred by Pakistani soldiers. Perhaps, half of Begali population would have been killed if not for India's intervention and today we have Bangladesh. Now Balochistan has started their own agitation to breakaway from Pakistan. All of these are inspite of the fact that everyone has his or her own region in Pakistan where they control their own rescources! So why are people still wanting out? Ethnic differences and ethnic nationalism. Simple! Sikhs & Tamils have had their own seccesionist movements from India too.
Yugoslavians are one people who speak the same language, but religion was their only problem, yet they divided into 7 countries and still counting till today ... Why not just 3? Since Orthodoxy, Catholicism & Islam were the only 3 religious divisions in Yugoslavia. That is the virus of nationalism! Montenegro still broke out of Serbia later on. Pakistanis had one religion but ethnicity still divided the country. .
Imagine if countries that had strong uniting factors such as religion, ethnicity & language were dividing themselves, how much more a so called Nigerdeltan republic only united by Anti-Igbo sentiments and nothing else?
Some of you also make the mistake to think that the division of a country where strong nationalist sentiments come into play is the same as living in a one Nigeria peacefully under the might of the federal govt? I laugh at such naivety
There must be a clear partition in places where ethnic nationalities meet each other! A place like Warri cannot coexist with the 3 different tribes intertwined as a homeland, whether in a separate country or in the same new country with autonomous ethnic regions! It is impossible. But if you guys think it is possible, then I say Goodluck.
Ijaw autonomous region or Itsekiri autonomous region must have their own well defined maritime & land boundaries defining their own rescources! Cos this time around it will no longer be Delta state maritime boundaries or rescources controlled by the FG. It is every ethnic group to his rescources and everyone will want to fight to get the largesse of the auction when the auction period begins. A look at South Sudan should give a clue.
There must be a form of partition. Same with rural/urban Benin where Ijaw & Benin communities intertwine. Same with Ikwerre & Ijaws in PH.
For me, I have chosen not be the overtly optimistic and naive 'all is well' person cos history will always repeat itself, time and time over again.
For my own people for example, we have 3 problematic areas where there must be a partition!
1) The Hausa fulani Kanuri land boundary
This boundary will be very bloody and we have to be prepared for a war and religious partition in this boundary, cos the Hausa fulanis are unreasonable human beings who only speak the language of VIOLENCE, they don't believe in dialogue. The religious partition has already begun gradually and it will blow up in the next few years. This I can promise. Infact this could be the precipitate to the division of Nigeria.
2) The Tiv- Taraba/Nasarawa boundary.
Tivs & Jukuns (Taraba)/Alagos (Nasarawa) are all middlebelt people, but unlike you naive souls, I know that we cannot live together as a people cos our values are not the same, regardless of us being Christians. Tivs are Bantu people and expansionists by nature. The conflicts and bad blood in that area is endless. There must be a partion!
And we will even have this partition before the breakup of Nigeria. By next year or at least 2022, all the Tiv & Taraba elders, traditional leaders must sit down and this issue settled forever. All the Tivs in Taraba would have to relocate to Benue and all the Jukuns in Benue would have to relocate to Taraba, leaving their ancestral homelands. Since Taraba has more lands and Tivs more number in Taraba, we may have to cede some more lands to the Tivs for peace to reign.
3) The Egbira-Bassa-Gbayi frontier
Bassas & Gbagyis have same mentality and orientation and can easily live together, but Egburas are another people entirely.
There are up to 4 LGAs in Kogi, Nasarawa & FCT where these 3 tribes intertwine. There have been conflicts and the bad blood is strong. Without a clear-cut partition, the war in this area will not be a joke. All Bassas & Gbagyis must peacefully leave their ancestral lands in Koton Karfe LGA and Abaji town, while Egburas must leave Abaji rural, Toto & Bassa LGAs. Cos without this partition, there is no way in hell, you can define Egbura, Bassa & Gbagyi homelands distinctly without encroaching into the territories of the other ethnic groups.
So, those of you including me as a prophet of doom for your 'Utopia Nigerdeltan republic of harmony' should know that I am doing this just because I have a more practical understanding of these issues and not because I am pro-Igbo or just want you people to join BIAFRA.
I personally do not support minorities being in a BIAFRA if it will be a unitary nation! If there must be a BIAFRA with minorities involved, it will be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or even the EU model and the minorities I picture in such a union are probably not even you Southern minorities but my own people (northern minorities).
Cos I don't think any reasonable united group of people should dream of forming a country with you Nigerdeltans, cos you people are a stacked pack of cards waiting to crumble after the only glue (anti-Igbo) that holds you together no longer exists.
I will never act as a spoiler to the Biafran cause because I know that if Nigeria must divide, the rest of us must work together to realize this, after which everybody will find his way. And those who are not prepared will be likely visited by the atrocities of Bosnia & Kosovo.
So, just as an Igbo person here suggested, you Nigerdeltans should take your Nigerdeltan republic agitation to the forefront and let it be known, so that the Igbos/Igbos can take you people as an equal partner in the struggle and no longer subsume you.
Cos by law standards, Igbos are not wrong in including you guys into Biafran agitation, especially the Ijaws & Akwa-cross people! You people were a part of the old Eastern region which the world and UN recognize as the historical territory/agitation of BIAFRA.
If the UN & Nigeria must bring a referendum to BIAFRA, it must be on the grounds of the territories of the defunct Biafran state. Delta/Edo people are safer cos they were not officially part of the old Eastern region internationally recognized as BIAFRA.
@Ix3as I always emphasize the fact that I am not Igbo, cos nairaland has a narrowed lense of looking and labelling everything in the Yoruba/Igbo dichotomy. Everyone who talks in a certain way is either Afonja or Igbo and you know this.
I joined nairaland around 2012 when Tribalism & seccession vibes were at an all time low and people did not feel the need to create fake monikers for impersonation. I never for once since that time claimed to be Igbo, but a middlebelter, so I wonder why your brain should think that I suddenly turned Igbo overnight. Go and check the threads I created since 2012 and see what they are about.
I think you should correct the impression that the minorities are united by hate. A thread was created recently and you just need to see how the minorities were rubbished, so many false claims, one might even think these people are nothing, but in the real sense, the minorities measure up to the big two in southern Nigeria in every endeavors, just some days back I was looking at a list of Nigerians who graduated with Masters in a US university (Georgia State University Spring 2018 Graduation- Master's degrees), the minorities were basically competing with the major groups, even in Nigeria, they are still doing well for themselves, so when some certain people come online everyday to rubbish them even when it's unnecessary, how do you expect people from these groups to react? form brotherhood? accept they are nothing? or ignore like nothing happened?
I personally still believe in the Nigerian project, at least to some extent, I believe if things are well restructured, corruption brought to the minimum, then we'd take our rightful place as a nation, we only talk about a possible reunion with our fellow minorities should things go south (which isn't happening anytime soon), so you shouldn't expect same level of agitation in every region, we are totally a different people and you won't see me forcing my views on others, I just they my lane.
Glad you made mention of Yugoslavia, can you compare the agitation Croatians put up to the one we are currently experiencing in Nigeria? was anyone even coerced to form a group?
Talking about Warri, will itsekiri lay claim of Uvwie? don't we have our defined boundaries? Don't we have Ijaw communities surrounded by Ilaje in Ondo? would Ijaw fight Ilaje because they are in the midst of them? won't they look for ways to iron out their differences?
And No, no minority is acting as a spoiler, instead everyone is trying to protect his own, you can no drag someone into something serious as forming a country without consulting and when they react you say they are spoilers.
Quit showing these videos already. They are embarrassing. One or two Edo people claiming to be Biafrans means nothing when we know that an overwhelming majority of Edo grassroots are anti Biafra. There are many U tube videos of Igbos from SE denying Biafra too while claiming Nigeria. Heck! Enugu state governor denied Biafra. Does it now mean that we don't know that overwhelming majority of Igbos are Biafra sympathizers?
This IPOB unity begging thing is a disgrace to Ndiigbo. Kedu ebe Ifele unu di? Kedu udili brainwashing bu ife bikonu? Osa nyelu Igbo aka, maka na Ike agwu gom! IPOB has finished our people thinking abilities. This mental damage on Igbo from IPOB is deep and might take time to salvage. I'm scared already. I didn't know this damage was this deep. Something needs to be done ASAP.
It's happening. Imagine ropping the likes of Igala in Kogi into Biafra. One wonder what they are smoking there. What Igbo man would want such a Frankenstein monster country after enduring the tower of Babel called Nigeria?
How about us having our Independent Igbo only beautiful country, where Igbo language would be the lingua franca for education and all governmental proceedings. Imagine how cool it would be for Biafra law makers to be debating issues in Biafra senate using Igbo language, national Anthem in Igbo language, teaching core science subjects in schools up to University level in Igbo language. No more shouts of Igbo domination.
How cool will that be? Wonderful right? Why would any right thinking person sacrifice all that for a hopeless ethnic heterogeneous country where Pidgin English will be the lingua franca?
Ana afucha ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana aru agwu?
Aha obodo nde Igbo ga·ehiwe ga·abụ... 土帝 太鄰 AlaỌsa oke Ìgbò... Nke pụtara "empire of Great Ìgbò" Ejishilem ike mepụta odide Igbo akpọrọ akara mmadụ/字漢... Nke bụ iji aka ndị Sin dee asụsụ Igbo. I ga·enyelim aka chọta onye ga·ebiputa ma mekwa ya dịka app?
Why do you think anti-igbo sentiments are the glue keeping the minority tribes in the South South region together? So you honestly believe what is stopping the Urhobos, Ijaws, and Itsekiris from killing themselve in Warri again is because they don't like an Mbaise man from Imo State?
Why do you think anyone from a minority tribe that doesn't support Biafra is a spoiler?
Your thoughts on these issues will be highly appreciated. At least, we are having an intelligent conversation.
Oga , nothing you write here will be respected because most of your initial posts are filled with bigotry , hate , resentment towards the Igbo. You didnt come here to have an intelligent conversation. You only barked down because a non Igbo intervened and schooled you Niger Deltans like the dunces you rightly are.
you call us "dunces" but still add us in biafra. Lol you will call us saboteurs again like in 1967
Aha obodo nde Igbo ga·ehiwe ga·abụ... 土帝 太鄰 AlaỌsa oke Ìgbò... Nke pụtara "empire of Great Ìgbò" Ejishilem ike mepụta odide Igbo akpọrọ akara mmadụ/字漢... Nke bụ iji aka ndị Sin dee asụsụ Igbo. I ga·enyelim aka chọta onye ga·ebiputa ma mekwa ya dịka app?
Also, bear in mind the present Igbo Izugbe will be erased. Every state will create their own standard Igbo. So, therefore, that "Ala" is dead on arrival. You are from Imo and I encourage you create do your things the Imo way. That is the awesomeness of diversity.
How many Edo people or Niger Deltans use NL or YouTube? Have you seen any Niger Deltan State involving itself in Biafran celebration? For everyone Niger Deltan that you bring and say he supports your phantom biafra there are a 100 out there who are not interested in Biafra, I will use my state Akwa ibom as an example. When general Philip effiong fought for biafra we had Gen Wellington bassey, Gen etuk, Gen Udo Udo, Brig Gen UJ Esuene and others fighting for the federal government, so you see majority of us are not interested in biafra especially now we know we can have our own individual countries free of hausa Igbo or Yoruba domination. You can Google those names if u have data
Blackking98: you call us "dunces" but still add us in biafra. Lol you will call us saboteurs again like in 1967
I dont want you in an Igbo republic. Stop regurgitating nonsense like a broken record. You are just shocked by the way the Igbo unanimously rejected you treacherous minorities. Yes , you are a dunce because the only thing that unites you minorities is your common Igbo hate. None of you were able to make a coherent argument because you are blinded by hate. It took a middle Beltan to correct you ffoolishness.
If some asked you to come have a discussion you have to give audience and hear them out instead of screaming like a rabid dog , running around insulting Igbo to win cheers...yes you are unintelligent!
