funmijoyb:

Interesting.

He's relying on Igbo people's history of Benin

Don't mind the idiot... Chief Osunde is the father of Adesuwa Onyenokwe and my aunt first Son... Chief Edogun is my distant uncle but i lived with him for a year plus... So no idiot can lie to me.

Yoruba keep worshipping Benin and pretending to gave links to us...oya carry go.
Whenever anything is Being discussed mention Benin.
Indeed Edo people are your Gods and you must worship us !

Ghostwon65:
Yoruba can not live an entire day without mentioning Benin.
It is time to face reality, Yoruba worship Benin.

1)Emir sanusi gets dethroned, the first thing anybody talks about is the Oba of Benin
2) illorin's fate as conquered by Fulani gets mentionnend, the first thing the Yoruba talk about is yet again Benin
3) art in ife is mentionnend, the first thing yet again is to talk about Benin
4) yoruba might is talked about, the first thing yet again is to mention Benin

It is all Benin this, Benin that.
You worship us. Deal with that.

Ghostwon65:


Lol, when people don't go along with your propaganda, their history is suddenly changed and they are not really king, it is others whom are the real kings...
Can you really not see your hypocrisy ?

Keep worshipping Benin !
Mention Benin at least five times everyday, we will grant your prayers but in an other life/universe

You're not a Benin person..cause you don't know your history.

Benin is from Yoruba word

First Oba Yoruba

You now have the audacity to tell me Ilorin is not a Yoruba land?
Mention just one Hausa or Fulani claiming Ilorin is not a Yoruba land?

Mention where Oba of Benin or an Edo laying claims to Lagos as their land?

You're Igbo tell the truth.

Ghostwon65:
Yoruba keep worshipping Benin and pretending to gave links to us...oya carry go.
Whenever anything is Being discussed mention Benin.
Indeed Edo people are your Godscand you must worship us !

YOU ARE CONFUSED MAN.... NOBODY IS WORSHIPPING US.

funmijoyb:

He said the first Oba came from Benin not that the "Oba" word itself is a Benin word

Hahhh, so you have precolonial west African dictionaries to Shi you the origin of West African words ?
Laughable. You are without a brain.
The first written document mentioning the word Oba was referring to the Oba of Benin ! And that was in the middle ages.
The first time a Yoruba refereed to himself as Oba was actually in the colonial era around 1940.

All their early Obas are Yoruba descendants and he came to the thread to insult Yoruba.

Even Olu of itsekiri will teach you Yoruba history

adelaja70:

YOU ARE CONFUSED MAN.... NOBODY IS WORSHIPPING US.

You Yoruba are worshipping us Edo.
It is a fact you guys can't spend a day without mentioning us. You here, you are busy pretending to be Edo while championing yoruba-supremacist and anti-Edo propaganda.

Ghostwon65:
Yoruba can not live an entire day without mentioning Benin.
It is time to face reality, Yoruba worship Benin.

1)Emir sanusi gets dethroned, the first thing anybody talks about is the Oba of Benin
2) illorin's fate as conquered by Fulani gets mentionnend, the first thing the Yoruba talk about is yet again Benin
3) art in ife is mentionnend, the first thing yet again is to talk about Benin
4) yoruba might is talked about, the first thing yet again is to mention Benin

It is all Benin this, Benin that.
You worship us. Deal with that.

Ghostwon65:

Hahhh, so you have precolonial west African dictionaries to Shi you the origin of West African words ?
Laughable. You are without a brain.
The first written document mentioning the word Oba was referring to the Oba of Benin ! And that was in the middle ages.
The first time a Yoruba refereed to himself as Oba was actually in the colonial era around 1940.

Obatala was an Oba before Oduduwa...he was an Oba.

Be grounded in Benin history


Again read this from the real Benin people not adulterated ones like you
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

This is about illorin, but watch how the Yoruba have turned it into a discussion about Benin.
yarib.a keep worshipping Benin.

We will grant your prayers in an other universe.

jarawa:


Source: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/emir-of-ilorin-thanks-buhari-for-appointing-gambari-as-chief-of-staff.html

Royal institution is in dire straits and greatly disrepute by the custodian of the ancient institution.
This emir just openly worship the president and misrepresent his people.

funmijoyb:

Obatala was an Oba before Oduduwa...he was an Oba.

Be grounded in Benin history


Again read this from the real Benin people not adulterated ones like you
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

you will just keep quoting made up stories all day without realising you are a fool. No matter how many times you are told these are made up stories, stories with no proof to back them.
It is just like watching an illiterate constantly denying the ellipsoid nature of the earth even though he has been presented with 30 different proofs.

ignis:
Buhari has Appointed 75-year-old Former External Affairs Minister, Gambari , As Chief Of Staff

This is a government of the ancestors, for the ancestors and by the ancestors.

Age is turn by turn.wait for your turn.

funmijoyb:

You're not a Benin person..cause you don't know your history.

Benin is from Yoruba word

First Oba Yoruba

You now have the audacity to tell me Ilorin is not a Yoruba land?
Mention just one Hausa or Fulani claiming Ilorin is not a Yoruba land?

Mention where Oba of Benin or an Edo laying claims to Lagos as their land?

You're Igbo tell the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

When did I say illorin is not ancestrally Yoruba? You are really crazy in the head, you are hearing voices...
You just can't face the fact your people are a conquered people !
Illorin is ruled by a Fulani bearing the title emir !
Oh I forgot, "emir is a Yoruba word" and "gambari is a Yoruba word" and "oba is a Yoruba word". You guys copy other people's cultures so much you can't keep track.

funmijoyb:

Benin is from Yoruba word.

Laughable, basically you Yoruba just go on making stupid claims to forget you are a conquered people.
The Fulani coquered you, that is why illorin is ruled by an emir. And the war was written down by eye-witnesses.

Soon you will claim my hair is from Yoruba and my mobile phone is from Yoruba. You guys are just cultural thieves.

Benin is from Benin ! How about that ?
Fool.

Ghostwon65:

Laughable, basically you Yoruba just go on making stupid claims to forget you are a conquered people.
The Fulani coquered you, that is why illorin is ruled by an emir. And the war was written down by eye-witnesses.

Soon you will claim my hair is from Yoruba and my mobile phone is from Yoruba. You guys are just cultural thieves.

Benin is from Benin ! How about that ?
Fool.

I'm done with you Igbo boy

AroleOduduwa2:
Our brain have been programmed by ruling class to fight between each other along ethnic lines.

Of what different does it make if he’s Yoruba or Fulani, we should judge people based on their merit and not their ethnicity.

The man in question has a good resume, but he’s part of Nigeria problem, he has been in the corridor of power since the creation of Nigeria with no meaning impact

You are wrong. He only served as a political officer holder just for a year-1984 to 1985, under Military regime sec

Dpharisee:
Yesterday, many Afonjarudeens (not Yorubas) were jubilating that 'Agboola' has been appointed as new CoS. I had to let them know that Gambari is a Fulani descendant of Alimi who murdered Afonja and took over Ilorin till date.
The Alaafin placed a curse on Afonja which was just recently lifted by the current Alaafin for treachery.
It's like many of them are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome where the victim starts falling in love with the oppressors.
As an old trick in the book Fulanis after conquering an area will adopt the local names of the community to make it hard for the locals not to see them as not being originally part of that community, that's why the current Emir bears Sulu 'Kolapo' Gambari when he was a justice, now he has removed 'Kolapo' and calls himself Mai-Martaba

They sometimes even answer the names of the town's they are staying to contest elections and deceive the original inhabitants such as Issa Funtua, Aminu Kano, Sule Maitama, Aliyu Gusau, Dahiru Bauchi, Maman Daura, Aminu Massari etc these are Fulanis holding political positions in mostly Hausa towns.

Ibaa Gani Adams has always maintained that a Yoruba Oba must be installed in Ilorin, the last attempt by late former Governor Mohammed Lawal who installed a First Class Balogun was resisted by the Sultan leading to him losing reelection and the Balogun was quickly removed following the emergence of Bukola Saraki as Governor, this was part of the precondition negotiated by his father Oloye for northern support prior to Bukola election in 2003.
The Baloguns deposition and death of Mohammed Lawal in controversial circumstances led to protests by Yorubas in Ilorin which was brutally crushed leaving several people dead.

No lies, despite being a/an afonja(Ilorin to be precise) I cant even comprehend all what u said!!!

funmijoyb:

I'm done with you Igbo boy

Yoruba really have obsesive alucinations about Benin.
You guys believe you can speak on our behalf and that is ridiculous.
Speak for your own people and leave us alone.
Worship us in silence.

kelvinatkins:

They are using Yoruba name just to blend. They are stunch Fulani and the Ilorin Emirate pledge allegiance to Sokoto Caliphate

Not everybody in Ilorin pledge allegiance to the sokoto Emirate, there is a group called Afonja descendants Union, they see themselves as Yoruba and not as Fulani.

rummmy:
nice piece but the Yorubas should know that Ilorin is gone for ever to the fulanis

lol
That means they will carry Ilorin to Sokoto and turn all the Yorubas who are like 80% to Hausa Fulani or what?
This emir, sulu gambari is the last Emir in Ilorin.
Ilorin will have a Yoruba Muslim Oba who is very devoted to Islam.

Ghostwon65:
you will just keep quoting made up stories all day without realising you are a fool. No matter how many times you are told these are made up stories, stories with no proof to back them.
It is just like watching an illiterate constantly denying the ellipsoid nature of the earth even though he has been presented with 30 different proofs.

.h
He called you an adulterated bini

funmijoyb:

Obatala was an Oba before Oduduwa...he was an Oba.

Be grounded in Benin history


Again read this from the real Benin people not adulterated ones like you
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

Don't mind he is very ignorant of the history of the past.
Right from time we have Obatala, Obamakin Osangangan was an old king in ile ife but he is very ignorant about such great history.

olajizz01:
Offa,Oro, igbona's with somr numbers of LG will seriously fight you if you relate them with Fulani or Hausa,even in Ilorin,some will say they are Yoruba's while some believed they are Fulani's

A few are Fulani because Fulani have been in Ilorin for close to 200 years now.

Afonja gave the kingship of Ilorin not Kwara(Kwara has lots of Obas) to the Fulanis(which will be taken back after the death of the present Emir) on a platter of gold.

The Fulanis will never have the liver to fight the Yorubas.When the Fulanis did not get the support of the Yorubas after the killing of Afonja and Sholagberu,the massive joint Fulani and Hausa armies were brutally defeated by only Ibadan at the Jalumi war but the foolish colonial entities still gave the kingship to the Fulani just as they gave the leadership of Nigeria to them.

[quote author=sulaak post=89498790]

I never said that Fulani's are the majority, the ruling caste are Fulani's by way of conquer and culture assimilation. Similar to the Tutsi in Rwanda that make up less than 10% of the population but control the political base of that country.

Fulani's are astute politician, they are the political caste and current president in Senegal, Nigeria, Gambia and Guinea Bissau and the major opposition leaders in B Faso, Guinea, Niger and CAR. They adopted the Hausa culture and rule over them, the second-largest slaveholding country in the 1800s was the Sokoto Caliphate to this present day, the Hausa are the underclass across Nigeria despite having the richest culture in West Africa. There is close social similarity between today Hausa and Africa- America in the US, both ethnic group are currently underclass of their respective country and were in servitude in the 1800s.

Unfortunately for the Fulani's, western civilisation and modern technology have superseded Islamic and nomadic culture, that were instrument that Fulani's elites used to dominate and assimilate their conquered victims. Over the coming decades, Fulani's dominance will begin to wane as West African will be force to industrialise, thereby replacing Fulani's feudal elites with a professional middle class elite.

[You really tried in this your writeup, but you are wrong about Niger Republic because the current president there is from Hausa ethnic group, you can check Wikipedia for verification, but other countries you mentioned I have no idea]

Obamaofusa:


lol
That means they will carry Ilorin to Sokoto and turn all the Yorubas who are like 80% to Hausa Fulani or what?
This emir, sulu gambari is the last Emir in Ilorin.
Ilorin will have a Yoruba Muslim Oba who is very devoted to Islam.

story for the gods.
Fulanis have never lost an emirate before now. So ilorin remains a subject to sokoto caliphate till eternity.

rummmy:
story for the gods.
Fulanis have never lost an emirate before now. So ilorin remains a subject to sokoto caliphate till eternity.

Fulanis only came to Nigeria not up to 250 years ago,just over two centuries.
Pls,which emirate did they have before apart from when they came to Nigeria?

rummmy:
story for the gods.
Fulanis have never lost an emirate before now. So ilorin remains a subject to sokoto caliphate till eternity.

Fulanis only came to Nigeria not up to 250 years ago,just over two centuries.
Pls,which emirate did they have before apart from when they came to Nigeria?


You can write this down if you are Fulani or a doubting Thomas...

This.sulu gambari is the very last emir in Ilorin.
No more emir in Ilorin.

A devoted Muslim will become an Oba with all the tenets of Islam.

Obamaofusa:


Fulanis only came to Nigeria not up to 250 years ago,just over two centuries.
Pls,which emirate did they have before apart from when they came to Nigeria?


You can write this down if you are Fulani or a doubting Thomas...

This.sulu gambari is the very last emir in Ilorin.
No more emir in Ilorin.

A devoted Muslim will become an Oba with all the tenets of Islam.

be making noise while they are there planning for an emir in Lagos and Ibadan...... Fulanis are smarter than we yorubas

rummmy:
be making noise while they are there planning for an emir in Lagos and Ibadan...... Fulanis are smarter than we yorubas

Says an Ipob

rummmy:
be making noise while they are there planning for an emir in Lagos and Ibadan...... Fulanis are smarter than we yorubas

Forget Lagos, Lagos is part of Benin empire.
Your Ibadan comment is more factual.

The bitter fact is most Yoruba descend from Brazilian slaves dumped on our shores.
And this is well known by all but the yorubas hate to talk about it.

adenigga:


Bro, I need you to answer me first "where in Yoruba land the title of head of traditional institution is referred to as "EMIR"?
You don't need to be @ the offensive, this should be an intellectual discussion.

Note: You can be a member of an ethnic group by conquest, not necessarily by birth. Ilorin was conquered by Alimi a Fulani man, he didn't forced them to speak Fulani's language but their names was adopted, for example - Abubakar Saraki, ( forget his Olusola), Bukola Saraki ( the son of Abubakar), Ibrahim Sulu-Gambari etc.

In conclusion, does Emir, Gambari, Saraki sounds like pure Yoruba's name?

Sarakis trace their roots to Abeokuta, while Gambaris trace their roots to Futa Jallon