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Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Elder00001(m): 9:39pm On May 13, 2020
CHoccolaTE:
And she thinks she is very intelligent ooo lipsrsealed
Women like her are one of the reasons why patriarchy is still well grounded in most societies. grin
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Elder00001(m): 9:47pm On May 13, 2020
cool
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Acidosis(m): 9:50pm On May 13, 2020
ibkayee:
No that's not it. If you actually read the OP let's be honest with ourselves
It’s a writeup that basically asserts that marriage is somehow inherently a better purpose than work, but done in a way that attempts to be lowkey by way of just alluding to things. Perhaps if she had just stated her preference rather than ‘telling’ people what the standard is along with the usual thinly veiled patronizing tone and smugness, people wouldn’t have been as turned off.

Her vibe is very 'white woman tears'(the stereotype) adjacent to me
I think your opinion is based on your perception of the moniker. She's one of the few persons here that carry "marriage matter for head" yeah, which isn't bad as many of her antagonists want us to believe.

Even if the purpose is to tell us that marriage is somehow better than work, it's still an opinion although I don't think she's compared both in anyway.

I am convinced a lot of people are threatened by her personality and values about life, marriage and family.

The message I've seen here shouldn't in anyway be a threat. I hold stronger, probably more annoying ideas about career and family.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by bukatyne(op): 9:51pm On May 13, 2020
Elder00001:
32 and you act more old school than the real old school folks. Interesting. grin
If by old school you mean upholding morals and good behavior, I am ancient school. Old School is too 'modern'.

CHoccolaTE:
And she thinks she is very intelligent ooo lipsrsealed
I don't think I am intelligent; I know I am.

I am very very self aware of myself so I know myself. grin

You would agree with me it takes a lot of intelligence and self-awareness to go past whatever you have been spoon fed on all fronts (religious, educational, life) and merge your own person.

It is very easy to read something online and jump on the wagon whether it applies to you or not. It is also easy to talk about problems on the surface without digging deep to do an analysis of the root cause. 'Why is this thing the way it is?' 'If we change Y, could be result be different?' 'Is Z happening because X was not taken care of?' 'Can X work in Nigeria? If no, what is a fairer alternative?' 'Am I getting Z results because I support Y even though I close my eyes to W?'

For instance, I find quota system very harmful to feminism. The moment you think women need to be given a quota to represent in a position by merit, you have automatically said 'they are lesser than men so can't compete.'

And it doesn't even help them.

A classic example is Northern Nigeria. The cut off mark is less than 10 for boys in some Northern state while some southern states which is same for male & female is 100+.

Are Northerners more educated today?

Nope.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by CHoccolaTE: 9:52pm On May 13, 2020
Elder00001:
Women like her are one of the reasons why patriarchy is still well grounded in most societies. grin
Very true but she doesnt know that.

I get that she has a need to make the world a better place, underneath all the funny threads her intention is to be objective and realistic and to help people but the messages in her threads are a bit misogynistic and controversial
And even deliberately attention seeking sometimes
In any case it doesn't warrant ganging up on her sha, everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how shocking it seems, I saw someone saying buka should not have daughters up there, Haba that is taking it too far nau.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by KanwuliaExtra: 9:53pm On May 13, 2020
ibkayee:
Lmao, realised I was calling you amazonjoy when I meant almond grin

I miss her too cheesy
Daz alright. grin
I looooovit.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by bukatyne(op): 9:57pm On May 13, 2020
Elder00001:
Women like her are one of the reasons why patriarchy is still well grounded in most societies. grin
And you are bearing your father's surname o!

And you trace your lineage through your dad o!

Critical thinking needs to be added to the curriculum.

Don't just read things and regurgitate them without thinking.

You will be more livid about a girl raped than a guy because of patriarchy; women who live chivalry is part of patriarchy. The women looking for men to propose, pay for the wedding, pay bride price, spend more in the home etc. is patriarchy.

What everyone should do is to teach men how to be worthy and upright patriarchs.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Elder00001(m): 9:58pm On May 13, 2020
CHoccolaTE:
Very true but she doesnt know that.

I get that she has a need to make the world a better place, underneath all the funny threads her intention is to be objective and realistic and to help people but the messages in her threads are a bit misogynistic and controversial
And even deliberately attention seeking sometimes
In any case it doesn't warrant ganging up on her sha, everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how shocking it seems, I saw someone saying buka should not have daughters up there, Haba that is taking it too far nau.
cool
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 9:58pm On May 13, 2020
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Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 9:59pm On May 13, 2020
See wetin grown up women dey do. grin
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by CHoccolaTE: 9:59pm On May 13, 2020
bukatyne:
I don't think I am intelligent; I know I am.

I am very very self aware of myself so I know myself. grin

You would agree with me it takes a lot of intelligence and self-awareness to go past whatever you have been spoon fed on all fronts (religious, educational, life) and merge your own person.

It is very easy to read something online and jump on the wagon whether it applies to you or not. It is also easy to talk about problems on the surface without digging deep to do an analysis of the root cause. 'Why is this thing the way it is?' 'If we change Y, could be result be different?' 'Is Z happening because X was not taken care of?' 'Can X work in Nigeria? If no, what is a fairer alternative?' 'Am I getting Z results because I support Y even though I close my eyes to W?'

For instance, I find quota system very harmful to feminism. The moment you think women need to be given a quota to represent in a position by merit, you have automatically said 'they are lesser than men so can't compete.'

And it doesn't even help them.

A classic example is Northern Nigeria. The cut off mark is less than 10 for boys in some Northern state while some southern states which is same for male & female is 100+.

Are Northerners more educated today?

Nope.
Is this long story for me?

I don't have time to read this shiii mehn

Goodbye
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by ibkayee(f): 10:00pm On May 13, 2020
bukatyne:
@bold:

When I told a poster that marriage and work are both means to an end and compared the difference between purpose and work?
[b]Work is to provide your means of livelihood: Marriage is for companionship, prevention of adultery and raising godly children.

Marriage like work is also a means to an end.

The advantage of focusing on marriage over work is that you train kids who will carry on with your legacy.

Marriage however differs in that it affects every other decision and fulfillment of your purpose.

To break it down, let's use Mary (the mother of Jesus) as an example:

Mary's purpose was to birth the savior (Jesus Christ). Let's assume she was a farmer (the Bible didn't say), that's her work. She was married to Joseph (an excellent choice because he was godly, fair and righteous).

Imagine Joseph was a rebebe man: it would not have been easy for her to fulfill her purpose; she might never have even fulfilled it.

That's why I would rate marriage above work.

Some other examples of work vs purpose are:

1. Jesus Christ: He was a carpenter (work) however, his purpose was to save the world.

2. Peter: Was a fisherman (work), his purpose was to be an apostle and being Christ to the Jews.

Etc. Etc.

Discover your purpose (the hard part), then marry someone who keys into that purpose and vice versa. While at it, you would surely have a work to earn a living.[/b]

This line is lifted directly from the OP:
Every body has the duty to discover their purpose and fulfill it.

In summary, work is just work: a means to an end of living a better life and fulfilling your purpose/assignment in earth.


This is another line capturing everything;
Discover your purpose (the hard part), then marry someone who keys into that purpose and vice versa. While at it, you would surely have a work to earn a living.

How can I think marriage is our purpose and tell people to look for it?

You'all should just admit you saw bukatyne and went bonkers undecided
I said you insinuated that marriage is a better purpose than work.

You say everyone has a duty to fulfill their purpose then contradict yourself by saying 'work in itself cannot give satisfaction hence replacing your family with 'work' always ends in tears.' and 'That is a work/job: it gives you money and the fine things of life however, it can never give fulfillment.'

You're not the first person to have contradictory views to someone...your messages are just confusing sometimes and your tone often comes across as imposing

Also, all this 'we saw you and went bonkers' talk, as humans we naturally have impressions of people and things. If someone has a history of a certain thing, it's normal to associate you with a type of topic and vibe. It happens to everyone, you're just a little more polarizing than the average. You're the same person who made a topic justifying marital rape, it's not unreasonable to have a 'strong' opinion on someone like that lol
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by bukatyne(op): 10:01pm On May 13, 2020
CHoccolaTE:
Very true but she doesnt know that.

I get that she has a need to make the world a better place, underneath all the funny threads her intention is to be objective and realistic and to help people but the messages in her threads are a bit misogynistic and controversial
And even deliberately attention seeking sometimes
In any case it doesn't warrant ganging up on her sha, everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how shocking it seems, I saw someone saying buka should not have daughters up there, Haba that is taking it too far nau.
Controversial like when I compare a husband to Christ; yes.
Misogynistic, can you point out one? Where I said men are better/superior to women or where I said men should treat women wrongly or hate them?
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by crackkhaus: 10:02pm On May 13, 2020
Elder00001:
The only reason you’re supporting bukatyne isn’t because people are attacking her but because you also share the same archaic views.
If the lady being attacked was someone with feminist views like coco candy or poco hantas, we both know you’d never have been on their side.
I wonder the kinda village that bukatyne grow up in that made her to hold such ridiculous beliefs.

You two are gonna be schooled tonight.cool
Who I support is my prerogative, no one gets to decide that for me...certainly not a ghost-fvcker like you.

And FYI, you will need to first get yourself a Double Degree along with at least one Master's, before you can even attempt to school me on anything.

Understood?
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Elder00001(m): 10:02pm On May 13, 2020
OchoL:
Another alternate created by Biglittleliar AKA fuzzywuzzy AKA kaamisha.

ONLY this time, shes pretending to be a (m). Lmaoo! grin grin
Lmao. So,I’m a female pretending to be male?
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by ibkayee(f): 10:03pm On May 13, 2020
Acidosis:
I think your opinion is based on your perception of the moniker. She's one of the few persons here that carry "marriage matter for head" yeah, which isn't bad as many of her antagonists want us to believe.

Even if the purpose is to tell us that marriage is somehow better than work, it's still an opinion although I don't think she's compared both in anyway.

I am convinced a lot of people are threatened by her personality and values about life, marriage and family.

The message I've seen here shouldn't in anyway be a threat. I hold stronger, probably more annoying ideas about career and family.
Lol oh boy
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Nobody: 10:03pm On May 13, 2020
CHoccolaTE:
Very true but she doesnt know that.

I get that she has a need to make the world a better place, underneath all the funny threads her intention is to be objective and realistic and to help people but the messages in her threads are a bit misogynistic and controversial
And even deliberately attention seeking sometimes
In any case it doesn't warrant ganging up on her sha, everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how shocking it seems, I saw someone saying buka should not have daughters up there, Haba that is taking it too far nau.
As in, I'm actually starting to feel bad for her. It's not that deep. If she wants to be that kind of wife /woman, let her be. I just think she shouldn't be projecting her beliefs on others. As for her stance on rape, those have and should be rightfully called out.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by ibkayee(f): 10:03pm On May 13, 2020
KanwuliaExtra:
Daz alright. grin
I looooovit.
Lol you have a very 'amazonian' personality sha, it is your nick name from now on cheesy
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by Elder00001(m): 10:05pm On May 13, 2020
crackkhaus:
Who I support is my prerogative, no one gets to decide that for me...certainly not ghost-fvcker like you.

You will also need to first get yourself a Double Degree along with at least one Master's, before you can even attempt to school me on anything.
Coward. cool
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by bukatyne(op): 10:06pm On May 13, 2020
ibkayee:
I said you insinuated that marriage is a better purpose than work.

You say everyone has a duty to fulfill their purpose then contradict yourself by saying 'work in itself cannot give satisfaction hence replacing your family with 'work' always ends in tears.' and 'That is a work/job: it gives you money and the fine things of life however, it can never give fulfillment.'

You're not the first person to have contradictory views to someone...your messages are just confusing sometimes and your tone often comes across as imposing

Also, all this 'we saw you and went bonkers' talk, as humans we naturally have impressions of people and things. If someone has a history of a certain thing, it's normal to associate you with a type of topic and vibe. It happens to everyone, you're just a little more polarizing than the average. You're the same person who made a topic justifying marital rape, it's not unreasonable to have a 'strong' opinion on someone like that lol
At bold, I differentiated between work and purpose.

So how can I say marriage is a better purpose than work?

Purpose is the reason a thing is created; how can someone be created for marriage?

Read to understand, not to respond.

Took me a while to learn however, I can read an Islamic Cleric's post on Polygamy and learn something about marriage (good or bad).

The above applies to the marital rape thread.

I am not willing to go into that tonight.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by bukatyne(op): 10:07pm On May 13, 2020
fieryy:
As in, I'm actually starting to feel bad for her. It's not that deep. If she wants to be that kind of wife /woman, let her be. I just think she shouldn't be projecting her beliefs on others. As for her stance on rape, those have and should be rightfully called out.
Keep your feelings to yourself dear.

Like you said, it is not that deep. wink
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by crackkhaus: 10:07pm On May 13, 2020
Elder00001:
Coward. cool
Says the insect with an hour old moniker created just for my entertainment pleasure.

You're mental.
Re: Placing The Wrong Emphasis On Work (aka Earning A Living) by KanwuliaExtra: 10:08pm On May 13, 2020
bukatyne:
Me ke? cheesy

The fact that you spoke ten pages about your family FIRST with pictures is proof enough for me. grin

The thread was not even about family to start with. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
The thread is not about family? undecided
Who was YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE? WOMEN ONLY!!! As usual. cheesy

It is on placing the wrong emphasis on work at the expense of WHATEVER SHOULD BE ONE’S CALLING?

The same calling that could be WORK if one is lucky. . . . Lack of fulfillment from placing WRONG emphasis on earning a living.. . . . . Just RAMBLING!

Than you jumped to:


“Marriage is for companionship, preventing adultery and raising “godly children”?

Unmarried parents(single and divorced) can’t prevent adultery or fornication, and can’t raise “godly children”?

You got PERSONAL and asked me what marriage means to me AND I SHOOOOOWED YOU! kiss

It is not about posting on NL. Some of us ARE LIVING IT! On our OWN TERMS and by OUR OWN CHOICES. Nobarrrrrrry’s BEEEEEZWAX! cool
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