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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 8:35am On May 14, 2020
TayserMahri:


Everyone in the world knows some test kits are faulty. But they are being used nonetheless rather than having none. No other sane country has fired their lab head simply because the test kits are faulty. Thats foolish in the middle of a pandemic. What actually happened is that she refused to play to the tune of doctoring figures to maintain an artificial small prevalence due to her scientific ethical standards. Is she Tanzanian by birth? Her name sounds Kenyan, which could be another of the reasons behind her unceremonious dismissal. Anyway, for a doctor am shocked you could be defending such incompetence.
For a lab scientist I'm shocked that you could say such thing, the first thing a lab tech/scientist should do is always test new equipment, that's why when you by antigen reagents there will always be a positive and negative control so as to make sure that the test are working fine. For them not to check the effectiveness of there kits is plain simple negligence. Thus not only the head of the lab but all the top executives were fired for failing to make that simple follow up.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:36am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


If you want you can have an indian Surname, or arabic

Still not a problem,

So you see no problem naming your kids Chinese and Mongolian names?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:37am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


I have an identity number on my national ID, but my name is unique. My name defines who I am culture wise. In prison they take away your name and identity and give you a random number. I am not a random nika because I have a name. wink

There's probably 100 sharing your name, but not ID number
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:37am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


So you see no problem naming your kids Chinese and Mongolian names?

If its significant,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


So you see no problem naming your kids Chinese and Mongolian names?

I'd go for Kim
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 8:40am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


No thats not true, they way less not even close to a million

Do want sources?
over here it talks about 3% of Ghana's population of 31 million being white Europeans buh trust me,they're way more than that.I know what am talking about. There are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of tge 31 million total population of Ghana. The rest are hardly accounted for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 8:42am On May 14, 2020
TayserMahri:


Whats the plan now? Did you manufacture your own perfect kits? And why did you import herbs from Madagascar to treat people who were confirmed positive using faulty kit? As your neighbors have already shown, there is a high level of prevalence in your country. They are using the same test kits at the border as the ones more inland, but the ones at the border with Tanzania are showing that you have a high concentration of the virus in your country. You could fire 1000 lab heads and the virus would still continue to exist and spread.
That's why an investigation was launched to see the extent of the damage and to what extent the kits were faulty. And maybe our neighbors got the same kits tested them and saw being defective some not or maybe they didn't I don't know about the QA method they took. Everyone knows that the virus is in Tanzania and a lot of people have not shown symptoms thus not tested but that does not mean that we abandon the simple act of Quality Assurance just because we are in a crisis.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:43am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


I'd go for Kim

Kim? Stop trolling. Why not Xi Pi?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:45am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


There's probably 100 sharing your name, but not ID number

I am sure you have an African name and for good reason. Let's not argue for the sake of it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 8:45am On May 14, 2020
TayserMahri:


How is that good news for your country? You realize the Zambians are talking of Tanzanian border, not any other border.
Because that has the largest movement of goods and people along her border line that is why she had to close it first to place proper measures. The other border posts aren't that busy thus easy to monitor.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 8:47am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


This sweeden?
Yup, that Sweden.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 8:49am On May 14, 2020
[quote author=rvp2018 post=89527840]So Kalenjin are 'very' different from other Nilotes. They actually have no cousins in South Sudan like other Nilotes. There reason Kalenjin moved to Kenya a long time ago - together with Kushites. These are not present-day Kushites - but proto-eastern Kushites - long before they split.
When Kalenjin moved to Kenya - pastoralism has not started in Sudan (Egypt) - everyone lived along the river Nile - mostly farming and keeping a few domesticated animals. The proto-kushites include sirikwa who did elaborate irrigation schemes - and were noted farmers- and some remnant tribes like Iraqwis can be found in Tanzania. I am not sure about Tutsi and Himas - seem to have come later.Kalenjin found aboriginal and live together - and most aboriginal speaks Kalenjin including those in Somalia or kenya coast. Kalenjin the language itself has about 50-50 cognates with eastern cushitic languages. These Kushites would late move up north and east - split into promos and Somalia - and Somalis would later convert to Islams - from 10th century when Arabs arrived from the coast - and Somalis would start to imagine they came from Arabia or Yemeni.

The Kenya bantus - are indeed very mixed - because they are north most of Bantus around here- and intermixed with nilotes, Kushites and aboriginal.

So yes when Bantus moved here - they found Kalenjin, Kalenjin-speaking aboriginals and Kushites. The Maasai and their cousins would arrive later - and scatter everyone. The Luos arrived in Kenya in 15th century - and Maasai probably an 8-10th century.Bantus brought iron technology - and tubers crops from West Africa - like arrowroots, yams, sweet potatoes, cassavas - and adopted millet, sorghum - that were being cultivated by agropastoral Kalenjin and others. Everyone pretty much copied honey culture from Khoisan aboriginals.


you are absolutely correct. but there is a kalenjin tribe on the border between S.sudan and Sudan also kalenjin like tribes are present in Ethiopia. But it is factual that nilotes were present in Egypt before the arab expansion. Bantus had better structured societies overall better governance and farming techniques and cushites were traders, fishermen and warriors. all this groups including the khoisan like tribes were present in kenya and most people especially the people in fertile lands are what we call mongrels or mixed people.

see now why it's unfair when someone whitewashes history, first there's no such thing as kikuyu from Ethiopia or from Israel as Kikuyu puts it. this is the same as some Nigerians saying igbos are jews. whitewashing because you have been made to believe there are superior beings and you'd like to be associated with them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:51am On May 14, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

Yup, that Sweden.

Lol �

Ill let it slide

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:53am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


I am sure you have an African name and for good reason. Let's not argue for the sake of it.

Yeah i have, grandad wanted me to be named after him

I still don't find how is that a good reason, i gues we different

Adios
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:54am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


Kim? Stop trolling. Why not Xi Pi?

Nah i don't like it, Kim is nicer
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:56am On May 14, 2020
chrisagyei:
over here it talks about 3% of Ghana's population of 31 million being white Europeans buh trust me,they're way more than that.I know what am talking about. There are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of tge 31 million total population of Ghana. The rest are hardly accounted for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ghana

Ghana population is around 31 000 000, see the reason why i don't regard Wikipedia as a credible source, even thou sometimes its correct
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:00am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


If you want you can have an indian Surname, or arabic

Still not a problem,

it's a problem when your name carries family history and identification with you. Our family name is unique to our area and immediately I mention it people will know what area I'm from, this helps a lot especially during marriage as you can identify someone you are related to and avoid. You want to tell me a stranger can just come and name themselves our family name and it's okay?
when christianity was being introduced to Africans that's one of the methods they used to erase history changing of names and the prestige that comes with your family name. South Africa beared the heaviest brunt when it came to colonization in the African continent thus I'm not surprised by your casual approach to African names

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:02am On May 14, 2020
chrisagyei:
over here it talks about 3% of Ghana's population of 31 million being white Europeans buh trust me,they're way more than that.I know what am talking about. There are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of tge 31 million total population of Ghana. The rest are hardly accounted for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ghana

Ghana Demographics

More than 98% of Ghanans are Black Africans, although the country is very multiethnic. The Ashanti people are the largest ethnic group in Ghana. Until the 10th century BC, most of Ghana was uninhabited by humans. By the 10th century AD, the Ashantis had established a settlement in the area and were later joined by others in the 16th century.

In that remaining 2% 700 000 area asians making European population around 100 000

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:03am On May 14, 2020
chrisagyei:
over here it talks about 3% of Ghana's population of 31 million being white Europeans buh trust me,they're way more than that.I know what am talking about. There are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of tge 31 million total population of Ghana. The rest are hardly accounted for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ghana

I don't believe those numbers. Ghana has a lower European population compared to East Africa and Southern Africa 3% of the population would mean almost 1million white ghanaians and that is incorrect
Although I do agree with you about white people settling amongs the shores in Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:05am On May 14, 2020
kevomtaani:


it's a problem when your name carries family history and identification with you. Our family name is unique to our area and immediately I mention it people will know what area I'm from, this helps a lot especially during marriage as you can identify someone you are related to and avoid. You want to tell me a stranger can just come and name themselves our family name and it's okay?
when christianity was being introduced to Africans that's one of the methods they used to erase history changing of names and the prestige that comes with your family name. South Africa beared the heaviest brunt when it came to colonization in the African continent thus I'm not surprised by your casual approach to African names

History cannot be erased to those who valued and natured it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:13am On May 14, 2020
TayserMahri:


How is that good news for your country? You realize the Zambians are talking of Tanzanian border, not any other border.

����� you should understand who you are dealing with. politically speaking Tanzania is kenya in the 80's
the government controls the narrative. Tanzania has been a one party state from the get go withsham elections, the narrative has always been pro government.
The tanzanians you are dealing with here I would assume are educated and they still hold a pro government view despite the whole world seeing the blunder their president made in regards to Covid 19. See in Kenya the president can come on air and apologize if he made a mistake like what he did during the beginning of the curfew announcement apologized for the police heavy handedness in Tanzania the president is a demigod and absolutely the citizens have to obey and not question their president can never and I mean never appear publicly and apologize for his governance mistake never!

makes you wonder if you are dealing with educated Tanzanians on nairaland and they are very pro government despite the misgivings what about the village Tanzanian. they don't know anything past ccm

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:14am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


Nah i don't like it, Kim is nicer

Kim is Korean though, what about Ulaan Baater? It's Mongolian. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:15am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


Yeah i have, grandad wanted me to be named after him

I still don't find how is that a good reason, i gues we different

Adios

Adios amigo. wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:15am On May 14, 2020
Kevo, the nearest to Kalenjin in sudan and Ethiopia are Daasanach or Merille - who are Cushitic in language but probably nilotic. Otherwise the only Kalenjin like tribe are in Tanzania - the Datooga/.Barbabaig - they are also nearly 70% cushitic - thanks to influence of southern cushistic (Iraqwis or wamburu).

That small region of Tanzania is very good because you get small region where oromo/somali cousins, kalenjin cousin, khoisans and maasai live together.

These are Datoogas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYysFFLuyEw

The Iraqwis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2gSwm26Au4

[quote author=kevomtaani post=89528977][/quote]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:17am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


Kim is Korean though, what about Ulaan Baater? It's Mongolian. grin

I can always find a nice Mongolian name
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:21am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


I can always find a nice Mongolian name

There can't be a better Mongolian name. Ulaan Bater is the capital of Mongolia. It could be a great name for your first born son.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:27am On May 14, 2020
gallivant:


There can't be a better Mongolian name. Ulaan Bater is the capital of Mongolia. It could be a great name for your first born son.

Nah
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 9:31am On May 14, 2020
Austine1212:


Ghana Demographics

More than 98% of Ghanans are Black Africans, although the country is very multiethnic. The Ashanti people are the largest ethnic group in Ghana. Until the 10th century BC, most of Ghana was uninhabited by humans. By the 10th century AD, the Ashantis had established a settlement in the area and were later joined by others in the 16th century.

In that remaining 2% 700 000 area asians making European population around 100 000

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/
Ashanti is not an ethnic group buh a subset tribe.Ashantis belong to the Akan ethnic group which makes up 49% of Ghanaians.In Ghana there are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of the 30 million population. In Ghana there's nothing like citizen by birth and acquiring citizens by naturalization is very difficult. So the millions of foreigners who live in Ghana are mostly without proper documentation.

The country has account for only 20 million citizens .Example is the millions of Nigerians currently in Ghana who had been in the country since 19th centuries buh were still not legally Ghanaians thus Ghana deporting over 200 thousand Nigerians in 1969 although they knew no family back in nigeria and lived all their lives as Ghanaians.

Europeans,Lebanese, Koreans,Chinese, Japanese, Americans are in their millions in Ghana with many of them knowing no other country aside Ghana buh the constitution still refer to them as aliens. Take this Korean for example, she's lived all her life in Ghana and same for her mother and grandparents that she sees Ghana as home buh Ghana still see her as a foreigner. The last time Ghana had a population census was in 2010 and Ghana recorded 26 million population buh just 20 million of them hold citizenship as at now that our population is estimated to be 30 million. So over 10 million people in Ghana are not Ghanaians by law.Over 3% of them are mainly white British Europeans.Nigerians make up over 5 million, the rest are Americans, and Asians. 600,000 foreigners registered for permanent residency permits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKh6b1vS0r8

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by orble: 9:39am On May 14, 2020
chrisagyei:
Ashanti is not an ethnic group buh a subset tribe.Ashantis belong to the Akan ethnic group which makes up 49% of Ghanaians.In Ghana there are 20 million Ghanaian citizens out of the 30 million population. In Ghana there's nothing like citizen by birth and acquiring citizens by naturalization is very difficult. So the millions of foreigners who live in Ghana are mostly without proper documentation.

The country has account for only 20 million citizens .Example is the millions of Nigerians currently in Ghana who had been in the country since 19th centuries buh were still not legally Ghanaians thus Ghana deporting over 200 thousand Nigerians in 1969 although they knew no family back in nigeria and lived all their lives as Ghanaians.

Europeans,Lebanese, Koreans,Chinese, Japanese, Americans are in their millions in Ghana with many of them knowing no other country aside Ghana buh the constitution still refer to them as aliens. Take this Korean for example, she's lived all her life in Ghana and same for her mother and grandparents that she sees Ghana as home buh Ghana still see her as a foreigner. The last time Ghana had a population census was in 2010 and Ghana recorded 26 million population buh just 20 million of them hold citizenship as at now that our population is estimated to be 30 million. So over 10 million people in Ghana are not Ghanaians by law.Over 3% of them are mainly white British Europeans.Nigerians make up over 5 million, the rest are Americans, and Asians. 600,000 foreigners registered for permanent residency permits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKh6b1vS0r8



What a looooooooooog tread. It may continue forever
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 9:47am On May 14, 2020
kevomtaani:


I don't believe those numbers. Ghana has a lower European population compared to East Africa and Southern Africa 3% of the population would mean almost 1million white ghanaians and that is incorrect
Although I do agree with you about white people settling amongs the shores in Ghana
according to the laws,we don't refer to them as Ghanaians buh they have lived all their lives in Ghana and trace their roots as far back as 1400s in some occasions.

In Ghana, there's nothing like citizenship by birth and by naturalization is almost impossible so they are not considered Ghanaians buh they still live in Ghana. They are more than a million of them.

Take this white lady for example, she's lived all her life in Ghana,speaks various local languages buh she's still not considered a Ghanaian. Millions of them are in Ghana buh our constitution do not capture them as Ghanaians or white Ghanaians. No white person can ever be a Ghanaian unless at least one of his or her parent is a Ghanaian. And that makes you a mixed race and no foreigner can own land in Ghana unless you lease it for 50 years.So with Ghana having a population of 30 million people, just 20 million of them hold Ghanaian citizenship with the rest considered as foreigners buh most of these people have lived in Ghana all their lives.Ghana has over 700thousand registered permanent residency permits with the rest not having proper documentation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xteET03S-s0
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:52am On May 14, 2020
rvp2018:
Kevo, the nearest to Kalenjin in sudan and Ethiopia are Daasanach or Merille - who are Cushitic in language but probably nilotic. Otherwise the only Kalenjin like tribe are in Tanzania - the Datooga/.Barbabaig - they are also nearly 70% cushitic - thanks to influence of southern cushistic (Iraqwis or wamburu).

That small region of Tanzania is very good because you get small region where oromo/somali cousins, kalenjin cousin, khoisans and maasai live together.

These are Datoogas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYysFFLuyEw

The Iraqwis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2gSwm26Au4


there are kalenjin tribes in south Sudan see the boya people and tenet people infact the area which they live even has a kalenjin name
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:57am On May 14, 2020
chrisagyei:
according to the laws,we don't refer to them as Ghanaians buh they have lived all their lives in Ghana and trace their roots as far back as 1400s in some occasions.

In Ghana, there's nothing like citizenship by birth and by naturalization is almost impossible so they are not considered Ghanaians buh they still live in Ghana. They are more than a million of them.

Take this white lady for example, she's lived all her life in Ghana,speaks various local languages buh she's still not considered a Ghanaian. Millions of them are in Ghana buh our constitution do not capture them as Ghanaians or white Ghanaians. No white person can ever be a Ghanaian unless at least one of his or her parent is a Ghanaian. And that makes you a mixed race and no foreigner can own land in Ghana unless you lease it for 50 years.So with Ghana having a population of 30 million people, just 20 million of them hold Ghanaian citizenship with the rest considered as foreigners buh most of these people have lived in Ghana all their lives.Ghana has over 700thousand registered permanent residency permits with the rest not having proper documentation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xteET03S-s0

simple then, they are not white ghanaians. it's like saying every European who is in kenya can claim to be Kenyan. No. but there are some Europeans who can claim to be Kenyan and there number doesn't exceed 200,000 people. But if you claim anyone in kenya of European ancestry you will find over a million people then.

All the times I've been to Ghana I've never seen a significant number of Europeans compared to where I'm from (kenya) so I was really surprised when you said 3% of the population, what I did in fact see is a high number of Lebanese and Chinese.

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