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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Problemkid1: 6:47pm On May 15, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[s][/s] urhobo guy grin cheesy odoko
Omo free WorWorBoy ooh. Na matter how, him still be my number paddi for this forum cheesy
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Mystiquefia: 6:48pm On May 15, 2020
Justiceleague1:


I agree with you 100%.
Any group, anything that will bring about liberation, emancipation is ok and should be supported.

ok...

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Problemkid1: 6:49pm On May 15, 2020
Justiceleague1:


What's your business with problemkid1?

The person he quoted is fond of dishing out provocative posts.

Btw,who are you? Where are you from?
please help me ask the idiot oh.

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Mystiquefia: 6:52pm On May 15, 2020
Problemkid1:
please help me ask the idiot oh.

OAM4J lalasticlala seun mydn44
Rule 2
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Justiceleague1: 7:06pm On May 15, 2020
Mystiquefia:


ok...

Where are you from?

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Owologbo(m): 7:31pm On May 15, 2020
SLAP44:
Fake news, Jonathan never said something like that.
I agree with you. This is not from JEG. (I can bet my left yanch).
The person that wrote this piece raise some valid points though.
As an Isoko blood, we are not/ we will not/ and can never be part of Biafra, Oduduwa or Arewa.
when the time to split Nigeria comes, it will be divided into the six different geopolitical zone.
South South will have their own republic.
thanks.

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by SLAP44: 7:35pm On May 15, 2020
Owologbo:

I agree with you. This is not from JEG. (I can bet my left yanch).
The person that wrote this piece raise some valid points though.
As an Isoko blood, we are not/ we will not/ and can never be part of Biafra, Oduduwa or Arewa.
when the time to split Nigeria comes, it will be divided into the six different geopolitical zone.
South South will have their own republic.
thanks.

No matter how many parts we will divide it, the time to do the division is now.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Graysons: 7:48pm On May 15, 2020
It's a bloody thread ooooo grin

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Owologbo(m): 7:48pm On May 15, 2020
Justiceleague1:


I'm Edo and you oughtta know joining hands together and getting liberated 1st and sort out ourselves later is paramount.

All these impostors "oping" threads upon threads everyday are fifth columnists out to cause division and bad blood among us SS and our SE comrades.

The entire south should infact join hands,forces together and liberate ourselves from the anti true federalism restructuring regionalism resource control internal colonialists and sort ourselves out later.

Why not sought out ourselves first (sign an MOU) before joining the fight. do you think the three major ethic group give a fvck about you?

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Owologbo(m): 7:56pm On May 15, 2020
SLAP44:


No matter how many parts we will divide it, the time to do the division is now.
At the right time, everybody go answer him papa name.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by SLAP44: 7:58pm On May 15, 2020
Owologbo:

At the right time, everybody go answer him papa name.
Don't you think the time is right now?
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by KingOKON: 8:14pm On May 15, 2020
GreatChizzy:
I am from Effurun, Uvwie LGA Delta State. Born and raised in Jakpa Road to be precise. The issues thus raised in this post forms the very core of most Niger Deltans like myself.

We discuss these issues among ourselves, I never stop wondering why the IPOB shy away from addressing salient issues as these, irrespective of who is airing these.

There are concerns by the Urhrobos and other non-Igbo tribes in the Niger Delta annaxed in the Biafra map, can you enlighten me on IPOB stance on these issues intellectually? Can you put a pause on the insults for a minute and engage intellectually? Or is it part of the IPOB tenacts to deflate and ignore using insults?

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Ibos don't discuss issues but EMOTIONS

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by KosiGee(m): 8:26pm On May 15, 2020
KingOKON:
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Ibos don't discuss issues but EMOTIONS

The Op is a Yoruba guy from Kwara state. Why is someone like him worried about Igbos?

He is a failed blogger whose blog site with a reputation of peddling lies. He has created other monikers to support and like his initial post.

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Graysons: 8:28pm On May 15, 2020
WorWorBoy:

Igbo men are not lazy but your criminal brothers commit the biggest scam in American history.

Igbo men are not lazy but 90% of your brothers are in jail in India, South African, Ghana, Malaysia, Malawi, Botswana, and co because of drug related issue.

Igbo people are not lazy but your women's are whores everywhere.

Nasty people who use their forbidden knowledge disturbed the peace of others. Nonsense.

Ouch!

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by KosiGee(m): 8:31pm On May 15, 2020
He has shown some elements of paranoia in the past. He is a creative writer but it’s embarrassing linking Goodluck Jonathan to the post.
I share some of his sentiments but it’s silly and mischievous throwing GEJ into this..

Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by valirex: 8:31pm On May 15, 2020
Mystiquefia:


valirex
Thegodlessgod
Ggregboy

una no tell us say edo people done agree to join biafra oh

At all man Edo is totally independent, and will only work with biafra for the actualization of our independent nations
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Justiceleague1: 8:37pm On May 15, 2020
Owologbo:

Why not sought out ourselves first (sign an MOU) before joining the fight. do you think the three major ethic group give a fvck about you?

Sort out ourselves now on what basis?

It's the Hausa Fulanis run zoo that doesn't care about us SS.
And when time shall come and God graciously grants us liberation,no bloody so called majority will dare take us for a ride.

The cesspool is taking us for a damn ride now cos of the saboteurs amongst us in the south who feels ok when their fellow other southerners are being marginalised.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by gidgiddy: 8:47pm On May 15, 2020
Owologbo:

I agree with you. This is not from JEG. (I can bet my left yanch).
The person that wrote this piece raise some valid points though.
As an Isoko blood, we are not/ we will not/ and can never be part of Biafra, Oduduwa or Arewa.
when the time to split Nigeria comes, it will be divided into the six different geopolitical zone.
South South will have their own republic.
thanks.

If Nigeria breaks up, it is not likely to break up the way you think. You might be surprised that much of the Igbo speaking people in Delta and Rivers might decide to join their kith and kin Biafra. Can the rest of what you call South/South be a country? It is almost impossible as nothing really brings them together.

I think what may later happen is that the Igbo speaking people in the SS will leave with Biafra while the others who cannot agree will continue with Nigeria

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Turantula(m): 8:48pm On May 15, 2020
Ojiofor:
I will comment after the op provide link.
However, if Niger Deltans won't travel to Enugu to see their president in Biafra but they are currently passing through Enugu to Abuja to see Nigeria President.Does that make sense?
That was where I stopped reading
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by valirex: 8:49pm On May 15, 2020
SLAP44:
Fake news, Jonathan never said something like that.

because you were there?
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by adekolaelect(m): 8:52pm On May 15, 2020
hammerP:
FAKE NEWS FROM THE CONE HEAD REPUBLIC.

AFONJA THIRD WORLD MEDIA.
Address the topic stop playing stupidity here .

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Nobody: 8:53pm On May 15, 2020
Obiobidgbo14:

The same Goodluck you people conspired and remove from office.
When will you stop leaving in the past.

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Oloun(f): 8:56pm On May 15, 2020
lukui:

Goodluck Jonathan Speaks From US- Why Niger Deltans Do not Want To Be Part Of Biafra
Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay niger deltans more.
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.
Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.
3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals
trash! From ndi ofe mmanu
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Mystiquefia: 8:58pm On May 15, 2020
Justiceleague1:

Where are you from?
Thought you said you know who i am?

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Oyinlomobambam(m): 9:10pm On May 15, 2020
Personally I know this isn't from Goodluck Jonathan, but who ever wrote this has made some valid points that have to be addressed by IPOB and co...

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Owologbo(m): 9:15pm On May 15, 2020
gidgiddy:


If Nigeria breaks up, it is not likely to break up the way you think. You might be surprised that much of the Igbo speaking people in Delta and Rivers might decide to join their kith and kin Biafra. Can the rest of what you call South/South be a country? It is almost impossible as nothing really brings them together.

I think what may later happen is that the Igbo speaking people in the SS will leave with Biafra while the others who cannot agree will continue with Nigeria
what is the population of these igbo speaking tribe you are talking about? hope you are not counting the Ndokwas Igbo (using Delta State as a n example)?
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Owologbo(m): 9:23pm On May 15, 2020
SLAP44:
Don't you think the time is right now?
All I know is that Nigeria will surely brakedown someday, but I don't know when.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by gidgiddy: 9:28pm On May 15, 2020
Owologbo:

what is the population of these igbo speaking tribe you are talking about? hope you are not counting the Ndokwas Igbo (using Delta State as a n example)?


First find out if Ndokwa are Igbo speaking.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by dukeprince50: 9:37pm On May 15, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
Sorry if I use the wrong words I have many of ijaw and urhobo people as friends here in Delta state,I must say the truth about 60% of the youth are lazy,could you believe that two of my friends from urhobo side sold an company slot that was given to them and remain jobless,I'm from Delta state and I know what I am talking about.
Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by spiritmasquerad(m): 9:40pm On May 15, 2020
AdaoraNK:
Jonathan will never say this. The western media is at it again.

'They fear of Igbo domination' are they not being dominated presently?

Biafrans please avoid this thread... Its pure fake and its part of thier divide and rule plans.


We are always united.
Fake or not the issues that were raised were not answered

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Re: Why Nigerdeltans Don't Want To Be Part Of Biafra Ex President Goodluck Jonathan by Kinematics: 9:41pm On May 15, 2020
Ojiofor:
I will comment after the op provide link.
However, if Niger Deltans won't travel to Enugu to see their president in Biafra but they are currently passing through Enugu to Abuja to see Nigeria President.Does that make sense?


Its obvious you dont get the point. Let me put it like this for your understanding: imagine Nigeria's capital is Borno state or Sokoto. Situating the capital in a faraway place is the point op is trying to make.

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