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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:00pm On May 16, 2020
Hu
komekn:


Curious assumption.

Ndidi failed an MRI scan in early 2013, not sure when the scan was done.

If he was 17 then ( which he was not) then he would be 25 now. Essentially he can't be 25 and he is probably a lot older than you depending in what is a lot too you.

At that stage of our football development shaving off 5 years was quite acceptable and routine others shaved off 7+ years. I am sure many here know them.

So you can speculate on his age, does it really matter his excellent performances are not tied to his age.

This one is an unfounded theory, based on assumptions majorly. Anybody can fail MRI.

That being said, I am not speculating on his age, I am fine with the age he says he is

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:16pm On May 16, 2020
komekn:


First of all l did not present any theory.

Furthermore, l did not indict any individual as bring right or wrong. But rather asking for an open mind on these matters.

It's a managers responsibility to man manage his team. And Managers as well as players can have egos.

But many a time people just disagree and or have different preferences that result in disagreement. That is not neccesarily ego and or insubordination.

For someone who has lived a large part of his life in the USA. You seem to lack understanding and appreciation of the socail dynamics, mannerism and etiquette that surrounds interrelationships in these settings in the West.

This sometimes creates big problems in my understanding and experience in the NFA and our Nigerian orientated managers.

I know of one Nigerian ex international who had to call Siasa aside and explain to him that his approach to players management and his disdainful way of talking to players was counter productive and was creating antagonism in the camp.

It's a very common phenomenon when Nigerian are working here they are mostly polite and considerate when talking and relating to people here in the UK.

Just watch as they land MM from Heathrow they just do immediate transformation and become rude and tyrannical.


U take how many days to respond and all u can come up with is this? I name checked Pep and Mourinho for crying out loud. Why are you telling me about UK work settings? Don't those two coach in the UK?

U don't know a single thing about football if u can say that falling outs between coach and players is a normal part of the game. It is a normal part of sports in general. Serena Williams has sacked how many coaches sef.

For u to act like this is something that rarely happens I have to openly question ur motive. When Isaac Success was having problems with his coach u didn't sing this silly tune. Instead u came here and gave us the coach's version of what happened.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 12:58pm On May 16, 2020
andrewbaba44:

Watch what sir ?
Are you guys trying to say osimhen is stubborn ?
If so then you are wrong
I think he is
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:23pm On May 16, 2020
CaptainStephen:
I think he is

Dude is far from being stubborn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 1:33pm On May 16, 2020
andrewbaba44:

Dude is far from being stubborn
ok sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:35pm On May 16, 2020
All the coaches that worked with late Keshi have challenged them to name names

Infact, they boldly mentioned the player's names

We are waiting for the players to tell us who among the coaches that asked them for money!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:37pm On May 16, 2020
TheGoodJoe:
“One of the problems we had then in the National team was that some NFF officials had too much contact with the players. They called them on the phone and became too familiar with the players. You don’t do that with players.”

For an NFF who worked tooth and nail to get Keshi sacked, that kind of close relationship with players was very unhealthy to the coach.

People should note that there are other factors (especially in Nigerian football where a lot of people have vested interest in the team failing) that can lead to the dropping top players. It is not always bribery.
Ike Uche's insubordination was so glaring in that game!

Hee allowed us not to win that game in the dying minutes!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by seankafor(m): 1:40pm On May 16, 2020
somehow:
all the coaches that worked with late keshi have challenged to name names

infact, they boldly mentioned the players names

we are waiting for the players to tell us who among the coaches that asked them for money!

tell me if not cowardice ?

And whilst mentioning the names, they should be ready to back it up with evidence and be ready to be sued and counter sued

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:41pm On May 16, 2020
Most Nigerian players don't respect Nigerian coaches!

osaze and co did it against Siasia which led to us not qualifying for nations cup


Most blacks are just too wicked to their fellow blacks but once the color of the skin changes, they start man worshipping


it will take a long time for the black race to grow!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jargooflife912(m): 1:47pm On May 16, 2020
Kevin Akpoguma starts for Hoffenheim while Chinedu Aaror Ekene is on the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:47pm On May 16, 2020
seankafor:
tell me if not cowardice ?

And whilst mentioning the names, they should be ready to back it up with evidence and be ready to be sued and counter sued

I have been daring them to drop names while ignoring those anywhere belle faced members here who threw logical reasoning out of the window!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:47pm On May 16, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Abuses does not give you credibility.

I am honestly surprised at you. You are paying attention to someone who regarded Keshis wife's death through cancer as nemesis and karma. Abeg spend your time wisely o.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:02pm On May 16, 2020
jargooflife912:
Kevin Akpoguma starts for Hoffenheim while Chinedu Aaror Ekene is on the bench
jamilu Collins also start

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:31pm On May 16, 2020
maidaboi:
jamilu Collins also start
You mean I'd check live scores today!! Ah feel goooddd
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:46pm On May 16, 2020
somehow:
Most Nigerian players don't respect Nigerian coaches!

osaze and co did it against Siasia which led to us not qualifying for nations cup


Most blacks are just too wicked to their fellow blacks but once the color of the skin changes, they start man worshipping


it will take a long time for the black race to grow!

Majority of Nigerians are known for asslicking the white skin from day 1 ,not surprised
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:12pm On May 16, 2020
How are defenders really supposed to man mark with social distancing rules?

Anyone watching Bundesliga right now?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:21pm On May 16, 2020
The inevitable cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 3:32pm On May 16, 2020
Subzero047:
The inevitable cool


He has done it again smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:37pm On May 16, 2020
safarigirl:
Hu

This one is an unfounded theory, based on assumptions majorly. Anybody can fail MRI.

That being said, I am not speculating on his age, I am fine with the age he says he is

Consider the bold , what you are doing is changing the parameters of measurement and then dismissing them as no longer credible. I really can not remember but i am sure you have been among the many that commended the use of MRI Scans. Without MRI we would still be sending Uncles to U17 it is not perfect but it has revolutionized our football and curtailed largely blatant age cheating..

MRI Scans can not tell you how old you are they give an age range within certain variables by linking bone fusion. However, what it certainly does is state that you are over 17, that means you could be anything from over 17 to over 25. The MRI scan where bone fusion is concerned has near 100% accuracy, so effectively Ndidi was certainly over 17 how old exactly only he knows.

Some teenagers will have bone fusion complete at 19 a reflection of good nutrition with a high protein diet, as well as good medical care and an environment that enhances well being. Children who are malnourished will experience delayed and stunted growth with bone fusion concurring much later in life even up too 22.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:41pm On May 16, 2020
elyte89:



He has done it again smiley

He don't miss cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:43pm On May 16, 2020
English fans are crying about Sancho on the bench grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:44pm On May 16, 2020
BascoVanVeli:



U take how many days to respond and all u can come up with is this? I name checked Pep and Mourinho for crying out loud. Why are you telling me about UK work settings? Don't those two coach in the UK?

U don't know a single thing about football if u can say that falling outs between coach and players is a normal part of the game. It is a normal part of sports in general. Serena Williams has sacked how many coaches sef.

For u to act like this is something that rarely happens I have to openly question ur motive. When Isaac Success was having problems with his coach u didn't sing this silly tune. Instead u came here and gave us the coach's version of what happened.


You should go back to my comments about Isaac Success and the context which they were made, before jumping to whimsical conclusions.

To quote Ian Fleming; Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

Now how many managers have reprimanded him and dismissed him as being far from diligent and ill disciplined, that proves the issue is not with managers but the player. At a stage he was even over weight a professional footballer.

Stop being emotive and allowing sentiment to cloud your reasoning.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:48pm On May 16, 2020
Subzero047:
The inevitable cool

grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:49pm On May 16, 2020
komekn:


Consider the bold , what you are doing is changing the parameters of measurement and then dismissing them as no longer credible. I really can not remember but i am sure you have been among the many that commended the use of MRI Scans. Without MRI we would still be sending Uncles to U17 it is not perfect but it has revolutionized our football and curtailed largely blatant age cheating..

MRI Scans can not tell you how old you are they give an age range within certain variables by linking bone fusion. However, what it certainly does is state that you are over 17, that means you could be anything from over 17 to over 25. The MRI scan where bone fusion is concerned has near 100% accuracy, so effectively Ndidi was certainly over 17 how old exactly only he knows.

Some teenagers will have bone fusion complete at 19 a reflection of good nutrition with a high protein diet, as well as good medical care and an environment that enhances well being. Children who are malnourished will experience delayed and stunted growth with bone fusion concurring much later in life even up too 22.

All these are long stories. Ndidi grew up under the watch of people in the barracks. He was not a man playing with children in the barracks. Whether you like it or not. Ndidi was even smaller than his peers when he was playing. He later grew in height and stature after that, which is a clear evidence of a growing boy.

Just like a 16 years old Maduabuchi Obinwa who was clearly captured at birth in the American medical system, Ndidi failing MRI does not mean overage player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:53pm On May 16, 2020
komekn:



You should go back to my comments about Isaac Success and the context which they were made, before jumping to whimsical conclusions.

To quote Ian Fleming; Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

Now how many managers have reprimanded him and dismissed him as being far from diligent and ill disciplined, that proves the issue is not with managers but the player. At a stage he was even over weight a professional footballer.

Stop being emotive and allowing sentiment to cloud your reasoning.

Isaac Success for a large extent has been frozen off the team for a long period of time. There is a big chance it had to do with his attitude off the field not his talent.

When coaches sense poor attitudes, they clamp down on it hard. We saw it clearly with Mancini and Tevez.

Guardiola froze Nasri from an ill thought comment by his girlfriend. Note, not Nasri, his girlfriend and Guardiola clamped down hard on him.

Guardiola froze Yaya Toure out of the City team due to ill comments by his agent, Seluk.

These happened in England. Not Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:56pm On May 16, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Majority of Nigerians are known for asslicking the white skin from day 1 ,not surprised

I disagree with that notion very strongly.

Maybe in your limited experience that is your observation but CERTAINLY not mine.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:56pm On May 16, 2020
somehow:

Ike Uche's insubordination was so glaring in that game!

Hee allowed us not to win that game in the dying minutes!

That's really true..

As a coach,if you have players who won't play according to your instructions,then it's unlikely you will succeed... Look at what Conte did with Diego Costa despite Costa's glaring contribution to their title winning campaign..

When Klopp took over Liverpool,Sakho was one of his favorite and regular player until that incident that created bad blood between them..Klopp kept him on the bench until January when he sold him off to palace...

If there's no harmony between the coach and his players,there would be problems..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:57pm On May 16, 2020
safarigirl:
How are defenders really supposed to man mark with social distancing rules?

Anyone watching Bundesliga right now?

Social distance cant work in football

Did they tell them to do social distance while playing ?

All these players have been tested and they are all negatives

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:01pm On May 16, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Isaac Success for a large extent has been frozen off the team for a long period of time. There is a big chance it had to do with his attitude off the field not his talent.

When a coach senses poor attitude, they clamp down on it hard. We saw it clearly with Mancini and Tevez.

Guardiola froze Nasri from an ill thought comment from his girlfriend. Note, not Nasri, his girlfriend and Guardiola clamped down hard on him.

Guardiola froze Yaya Toure out of the City team due to ill comments by his agent, Seluk.

These happened in England. Not Nigeria.

Talent not developed stagnates and then dies.

Without diligence, focus, discipline, drive and determination talent will take you nowhere.

You are being overly positive and diplomatic, call a spade a spade, dude is highly undisciplined.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:05pm On May 16, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Social distance cant work in football

Did they tell them to do social distance while playing ?

All these players have been tested and they are all negatives

You can practise social distancing when celebrating a goal Sha grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:07pm On May 16, 2020
komekn:


Consider the bold , what you are doing is changing the parameters of measurement and then dismissing them as no longer credible. I really can not remember but i am sure you have been among the many that commended the use of MRI Scans. Without MRI we would still be sending Uncles to U17 it is not perfect but it has revolutionized our football and curtailed largely blatant age cheating..

MRI Scans can not tell you how old you are they give an age range within certain variables by linking bone fusion. However, what it certainly does is state that you are over 17, that means you could be anything from over 17 to over 25. The MRI scan where bone fusion is concerned has near 100% accuracy, so effectively Ndidi was certainly over 17 how old exactly only he knows.

Some teenagers will have bone fusion complete at 19 a reflection of good nutrition with a high protein diet, as well as good medical care and an environment that enhances well being. Children who are malnourished will experience delayed and stunted growth with bone fusion concurring much later in life even up too 22.

Ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:08pm On May 16, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


All these are long stories. Ndidi grew up under the watch of people in the barracks. He was not a man playing with children in the barracks. Whether you like it or not. Ndidi was even smaller than his peers when he was playing. He later grew in height and stature after that, which is a clear evidence of a growing boy.

Just like a 16 years old Maduabuchi Obinwa who was clearly captured at birth in the American medical system, Ndidi failing MRI does not mean overage player.

There are huge differentials between Maduabuchi Obinwa and Ndidi cases .

One was born in the USA and you could say led comparative to Ndid led a very privileged life style that includes better health care, nutrition, etc.

However, we are moving into the Nigerian factor, NFF officials took over 100k naira from his mother to carry out a MRI scan, then they said he failed it but refused to present the test results which his mother paid for to be inspected. The whole episode was surrounded in subterfuge and under handed practices.

That is not a comparison that can be used to make any deduction, rather it exposes the NFA for their underhanded and established corrupt practices.

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