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Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Karlebolu(m): 7:08pm On May 05, 2020
Why?

This days, developers tend to go the way of angular, vue, react and the likes and what most of them believe is that Jquery has passed it's prime.

Why?
Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Ajibel(m): 8:02pm On May 05, 2020
Karlebolu:
Why?

This days, developers tend to go the way of angular, vue, react and the likes and what most of them believe is that Jquery has passed it's prime.

Why?

youmightnotneedjquery.com

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Shepherdd(m): 10:38pm On May 05, 2020
Simply put jQuery is dying and I will tell you why.

jQuery was born because back then there were different implementation of JavaScript Engines by browsers and consequently a line of code working on chrome will send your application to hell on Apple's Safari. So jQuery came like the JVM with the promise of write once run everywhere. This is no longer a problem since most browsers now comply with the ES standard and a fair share of these browsers are using the same Chromium V8 JavaScript Engine.

Another reason is because It's main selling point has been added natively into JS and implemented by browsers.

Examples include the $.ajax vs fetch JS method, $('button') vs document.querySelector, It's animation vs Css animations

In a nutshell jQuery has served it purpose, it was a temporary solution to a problem that was fixed a long time ago.

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Capnd143(m): 12:16am On May 06, 2020
Jquery is not obsolete, any programmer who thinks jquery is disappearing very soon is joking. Yes, it might not be as relevant as it used to be, but it sure as hell is still solidly useful and that's what matters.

And talking about browser compliance, apart from that, jquery is still quite useful, so whether browsers are more complaint or not doesn't make jquery obselete
Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by arejibadz(m): 8:24am On May 06, 2020
Anytin u can do with jquery can b done with pure js
Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Ajibel(m): 11:29pm On May 06, 2020
arejibadz:
Anytin u can do with jquery can b done with pure js

Yea, by typing more cheesy

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by LSarcastic: 1:03am On May 14, 2020
Karlebolu:
Why?

This days, developers tend to go the way of angular, vue, react and the likes and what most of them believe is that Jquery has passed it's prime.

Why?

I remember a day I decided to use vanilla Javascript for a website I was working on https://www.bonychicken.com I spent four days debugging a simple selector. I asked for help on all possible places. Everyone agreed there was no bug in my code. It eventually worked when I gave up on my stubborness and used JQuery, it worked like a charm.

It is true that JQuery is past its prime but it is so damned useful. People would say you could do it all with vanilla JS. Fine. Build your website with it and tell me what happened. Javascript has improved but not enough to ignore JQuery all together. That's why Bootstrap, the world's number one frontend framework still ships Jquery with it.
They are not stupid.

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Johnmattee(m): 7:04pm On May 14, 2020
LSarcastic:


I remember a day I decided to use vanilla Javascript for a website I was working on https://www.bonychicken.com I spent four days debugging a simple selector. I asked for help on all possible places. Everyone agreed there was no bug in my code. It eventually worked when I gave up on my stubborness and used JQuery, it worked like a charm.

It is true that JQuery is past its prime but it is so damned useful. People would say you could do it all with vanilla JS. Fine. Build your website with it and tell me what happened. Javascript has improved but not enough to ignore JQuery all together. That's why Bootstrap, the world's number one frontend framework still ships Jquery with it.
They are not stupid.
Bootstrap 5 is dropping jQuery, go to their website or Google it...so jQuery has outlived its usefulness.
Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by LSarcastic: 12:30am On May 15, 2020
Johnmattee:

Bootstrap 5 is dropping jQuery, go to their website or Google it...so jQuery has outlived its usefulness.

Still, I insist it hasn't. There are hundreds of thousands of websites that would still use it. True, you no longer need it as before.
There are dozens of frameworks who still trust JQuery and won't make the major lead to using vanilla JS.
JQuery right now is just like PHP. There are alternatives and better options but people will still use it.

The fact that you no longer use it doesn't mean people wouldn't use it. It still powers dozens of legacy websites and it will power more still. The only thing is, the use would decrease. But it won't go away anytime soon.

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Shepherdd(m): 7:52pm On May 17, 2020
LSarcastic:


Still, I insist it hasn't. There are hundreds of thousands of websites that would still use it. True, you no longer need it as before.
There are dozens of frameworks who still trust JQuery and won't make the major lead to using vanilla JS.
JQuery right now is just like PHP. There are alternatives and better options but people will still use it.

The fact that you no longer use it doesn't mean people wouldn't use it. It still powers dozens of legacy websites and it will power more still. The only thing is, the use would decrease. But it won't go away anytime soon.

I once read on Quora about an interviewer that said in their company, during the interview process if you use one single line of jQuery code you get disqualified automatically you won't even be considered. And jQuery is not like PHP. PHP is a turing complete programming language where you could build anything you can dream of while jQuery is just an abstraction over JavaScript.

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by LSarcastic: 8:03pm On May 17, 2020
Shepherdd:


I once read on Quora about an interviewer that said in their company, during the interview process if you use one single line of jQuery code you get disqualified automatically you won't even be considered. And jQuery is not like PHP. PHP is a turing complete programming language where you could build anything you can drea of while jQuery is just an abstraction over JavaScript.

Don't you understand the point I'm making when comparing JQuery to PHP? We all know JQuery is not a language (¬_¬) I'm comparing the philosophy behind their usage. PHP is almost down the list when it comes to techs you would use to build something huge. Same as JQuery in the world on front-end technology. But they will be still be heavily used in years to come

It like you don't even understand my point of view at all. Your rant is: JQuery is useless and has reached the end of its lifespan. I'm saying "No it hasn't. Even if it is declining in use, people will still use it for years to come." This is our point of contention. No one says it's impossible to do without JQuery. It's important you understand my view so the discussion won't be sidetracked.

Besides, if you're even using an abstraction in a job interview for any type of programming job, you're basically useless. It's like using Bootstrap when you're called for a CSS interview. It doesn't mean he is saying JQuery is repulsive in such organization. Besides, if you read the comments on that post, you'll see varying opinions on that fact. I'm sure you probably did not consider the comment section. Quora users are very opinionated and will express themselves in the comment section

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Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Shepherdd(m): 9:33pm On May 17, 2020
LSarcastic:


Don't you understand the point I'm making when comparing JQuery to PHP? We all know JQuery is not a language (¬_¬) I'm comparing the philosophy behind their usage. PHP is almost down the list when it comes to techs you would use to build something huge. Same as JQuery in the world on front-end technology. But they will be still be heavily used in years to come

It like you don't even understand my point of view at all. Your rant is: JQuery is useless and has reached the end of its lifespan. I'm saying "No it hasn't. Even if it is declining in use, people will still use it for years to come." This is our point of contention. No one says it's impossible to do without JQuery. It's important you understand my view so the discussion won't be sidetracked.

Besides, if you're even using an abstraction in a job interview for any type of programming job, you're basically useless. It's like using Bootstrap when you're called for a CSS interview. It doesn't mean he is saying JQuery is repulsive in such organization. Besides, if you read the comments on that post, you'll see varying opinions on that fact. I'm sure you probably did not consider the comment section. Quora users are very opinionated and will express themselves in the comment section

I get your point comparing PHP and jQuery but my point is they aren't comparable (people use them for different reason - jQuery because of browser compatibility issues or because they are too lazy to read MDN docs and understand how a JS function should be called or well too lazy and go the shortcut route while PHP is used because it is a web language).

PHP is almost down the list when it comes to techs you would use to build something huge
Facebook as massive as it is runs on PHP.

Simply put for spa frameworks like vue, react and angular it is counter intuitive to use jQ and will lead to spaghetti codes.

And sure a lot of legacy code runs on it but a serious company IMHO won't include it in new systems. Yes it will still be used for projects but at a considerably minute scale which was the original question by the op (it passing it's prime).

Happy JavaScripting..
Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Karlebolu(m): 5:22pm On Jun 16, 2020
 This is a drill! 


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