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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Arabiandude: 1:34pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
and you are comparing pep's barca to the super eagles okwa ya? continue cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
It's a comparison on how a style of play best suit us and not players comparison.
Presently the SE has more attack minded and good goalscorers than defenders, so playing defensive games right now won't benefit us because our defense isn't strong enough to absorb the pressures that will come from top class strickers (we must concede).
But if we go attacking, there is no defence in the world currently that our fast, skillful and aggressive attackers can't break.
And who says we can't do mass attack and mass defence? Don't forget our 2 u17 that recently won fifa U17 world cups both played attacking games.

The best way to defend is to attack.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:35pm On May 20, 2020
elyte89:



Same way Egypt came out and dey were punished.. I am not defending rohr though cool

am not asking rohr to play an attacking game he can be balanced but at least play a possessive game
football is played to enjoyed not to be going through unnecessary fear of the opponent

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 20, 2020
Arabiandude:

It's a comparison on how a style of play best suit us and not players comparison.
Presently the SE has more attack minded and good goalscorers than defenders, so playing defensive games right now won't benefit us because our defense isn't strong enough to absorb the pressures that will come from top class strickers (we must concede).
But if we go attacking, there is no defence in the world currently that our fast, skillful and aggressive attackers can't break.
And who says we can't do mass attack and mass defence? Don't forget our 2 u17 that recently won fifa U17 world cups both played attacking games.

The best way to defend is to attack.

exactly you just nailed it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:37pm On May 20, 2020
sheyishemba:


but amunike won't deny not involving himself with agencies of this player and himself working agent
or involving himself in match fixing saga
remember why Tanzania sacked him

I feel Tanzania was politics. A serious FA would allow Amunike build on his success. Discuss with him to stem out drawbacks. Outright sack was purely ridiculous because he over achieved.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:38pm On May 20, 2020
elyte89:



U and dis ur "soaking " policy grin cheesy grin grin


So meaning KANU might av had soaked up d knowledge of van gaal and wenger grin grin

I don't believe you can deliver what you have not soaked in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:40pm On May 20, 2020
good question. them want tiki taka when they lack world class cm midfielders who are confident on possession. with the crop of players we have currently the best tactics is total football ie massive defense massive attack
5inchdick:

I agree with the bolded.
But who are these players in our "pool of players? We really hype our average players so much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:43pm On May 20, 2020
komekn:

Deviation, why do you think Etebo couldn't just get going in the Championship. I was so dissapointed l thought the league would suit him and he would spring board to the EPL. But he simply failed to excited and dominate consistently. The ting suprise me.


I don't think Etebo fared badly in Stoke. Stoke were very underwhelming, yet in his first season, he won Stoke's Player Of The Year. While injury limited him to just 8 appearances in his second season. In fact he is a fan favourite.

The problem is that Nigerians were expecting him to make more goal contribution. But his underwhelming produce may be down to the uncertainty at Stoke. Since Etebo's arrival in 2018, they've changed managers 5 times.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:44pm On May 20, 2020
5inchdick:

...
Summary
The German team are one of the most exciting teams at the World Cup in terms of their young talent and array of attacking options. Although Löw has been accused of defensive tactics the team has the ability to counter-attack quickly in incisive break-aways. This might just be the beginning of a very successful national side.

https://timhi./2010/06/05/high-hopes-for-low-and-his-young-talent-germany-2010/

The above was before the 2010 world cup. I watched the World cup, Germany being my favourite team, and it was clear they were a counter-attacking side.

...
Which brings us to Germany. They too play a 4-2-3-1 and, although Philipp Lahm breaks forward occasionally, theirs is essentially a defensive set-up. Here again goals are the great betrayers; it was bewildering how much praise was heaped on their supposedly fresh, open approach just because they scored four goals in three games. This Germany was superb on the counterattack, and the interaction of the front four of Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller, Lukas Podolski and Mesut Ozil was at times breathtaking. But this was reactive football.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/jul/09/world-cup-2010-tactics-the-question

Have we ever had a better team than this German squad?

Skimmed through the article. I think the author was critiquing the Germans of not being as offensive as they can be but he clearly admits their ruthlessness against weakened oppositions. That can not be termed defensive.

He is also critical of their tight set up when they are not with the ball. That again can not be used to term the team defensive.

He also points out teams setting up to nullify the German threats. That means the teams knew about the offensive threat level of the Germans and not enough to tag them defensive.

As for best World Cup squad I have seen? Brazil in France 98.

Ronaldo de Lima, Bebeto, Rivaldo, Leonardo, Denilson, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Ze Carlos, Gilbeto Silva, Tafarel, Dunga and a host of others. Insane team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:46pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
good question. them want tiki taka when they lack world class cm midfielders who are confident on possession. with the crop of players we have currently the best tactics is total football ie massive defense massive attack

I have no doubt in the abilities of our players. Have you watched Ndidi's composure lately at Leicester? If Rodgers did not give him the nod, we would not know he is capable of such.

It is down to philosophy, scouting and training.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:46pm On May 20, 2020
the attack minded players we can boast of are from the flanks. for tiki taka to be implemented perfectly we need ball playing centre backs and dm midfielder with a highly skilled and technical CAMs which will bring out the desired output of our attackers

in our defense line the 2 decent ball players are aina and ajayi which is the reason i clamor for the inclusion of adarabioyo in the team. ndidi is best at what he does best which is breaking attacks and covering grounds, etebo is not technically sound and skilled. the likes of aribo,ejaria and iwobi are not yet in the class to master and perfect system well

Arabiandude:

It's a comparison on how a style of play best suit us and not players comparison.
Presently the SE has more attack minded and good goalscorers than defenders, so playing defensive games right now won't benefit us because our defense isn't strong enough to absorb the pressures that will come from top class strickers (we must concede).
But if we go attacking, there is no defence in the world currently that our fast, skillful and aggressive attackers can't break.
And who says we can't do mass attack and mass defence? Don't forget our 2 u17 that recently won fifa U17 world cups both played attacking games.

The best way to defend is to attack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:47pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
good question. them want tiki taka when they lack world class cm midfielders who are confident on possession. with the crop of players we have currently the best tactics is total football ie massive defense massive attack
.

who told you aribo,iwobi,ejaria are not confident on the ball that a huge lie
if Nigeria has poor CM that can hold possession like you've said then there is no team in Africa that can play a possessive game and thats a lie Nigeria cm can hold the ball and they are confident with the ball
Thank you

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:48pm On May 20, 2020
Arabiandude:

It's a comparison on how a style of play best suit us and not players comparison.
Presently the SE has more attack minded and good goalscorers than defenders, so playing defensive games right now won't benefit us because our defense isn't strong enough to absorb the pressures that will come from top class strickers (we must concede).
But if we go attacking, there is no defence in the world currently that our fast, skillful and aggressive attackers can't break.
And who says we can't do mass attack and mass defence? Don't forget our 2 u17 that recently won fifa U17 world cups both played attacking games.

The best way to defend is to attack.

Thank you and people feel defending is playing to our strength.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:51pm On May 20, 2020
komekn:


Bruv it's very very very difficult for a black coach to get a Managers job in England as well as in Europe.


The system is intrinsically racist and corrupted.

With all the black players you have in England and with thier European A licences they cannot get a job. Best you get is youth football.

Look at what happened to Darren Moore at West Bromwich and Chris Houghton at Newcastle. Blatant unrestrained racism.

This is the English life they never talk about in the news.

Europe is not by force
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:51pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
the attack minded players we can boast of are from the flanks. for tiki taka to be implemented perfectly we need ball playing centre backs and dm midfielder with a highly skilled and technical CAMs which will bring out the desired output of our attackers

in our defense line the 2 decent ball players are aina and ajayi which is the reason i clamor for the inclusion of adarabioyo in the team. ndidi is best at what he does best which is breaking attacks and covering grounds, etebo is not technically sound and skilled. the likes of aribo,ejaria and iwobi are not yet in the class to master and perfect system well


Ajayi is brilliant but also remember Ekong was brilliant playing the ball at the Olympics with Siasia. I think the system of the current Super Eagles have held Ekong back. He was a joy to watch at the Olympics.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:51pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
the attack minded players we can boast of are from the flanks. for tiki taka to be implemented perfectly we need ball playing centre backs and dm midfielder with a highly skilled and technical CAMs which will bring out the desired output of our attackers

in our defense line the 2 decent ball players are aina and ajayi which is the reason i clamor for the inclusion of adarabioyo in the team. ndidi is best at what he does best which is breaking attacks and covering grounds, etebo is not technically sound and skilled. the likes of aribo,ejaria and iwobi are not yet in the class to master and perfect system well


we have a ball playing defender ...balogun Is a ball playing defender even ajayi can still function as a ball playing considering the fact he started his career as a DMF Ndidi can't hold but can break attack and pass the ball to a player close to him like aribo and aribo is technically sound and if aribo is technically sound why do we need etebo
remember has not been starting any match since aribo came to team
Thank you!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:52pm On May 20, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Ajayi is brilliant but also remember Ekong was brilliant playing the ball at the Olympics with Siasia. I think the system of the current Super Eagles have held Ekong back. He was a joy to watch at the Olympics.

God bless you
you reminded me of ekong during Olympics days he really needs to watch during that time

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Arabiandude: 1:53pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
the attack minded players we can boast of are from the flanks. for tiki taka to be implemented perfectly we need ball playing centre backs and dm midfielder with a highly skilled and technical CAMs which will bring out the desired output of our attackers

in our defense line the 2 decent ball players are aina and ajayi which is the reason i clamor for the inclusion of adarabioyo in the team. ndidi is best at what he does best which is breaking attacks and covering grounds, etebo is not technically sound and skilled. the likes of aribo,ejaria and iwobi are not yet in the class to master and perfect system well

Oga, it's non skillful players that can't play attacking football but gets their jobs on the pitch done, e.g Dele Alli.
Ejeria, Eze, Iwobi, Aribo can all play attacking football. And who said attacking football means tiki taka? Does Liverpool plays tiki taka?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:53pm On May 20, 2020
i understand your position but tactics deployed in a game depends on the opposition the team is facing. when we are playing a weaker side the high pressing and possession tactics can be deployed but when we are facing the best in the world of football i think the best tactics is massive defense and counter attacking football.

in summary,tactics deployed in any game comes with the opposition's quality and strength

Ghana made it the to the quarter finals of 2010 world cup with physical,robust and no nonsense style of player where you handly point out any star man in the team. same goes with cameroon in italia 90 and senegal in 2002. almighty morroco with their array of stars and beautiful possession football was ousted by minors benin who sat back and soaked pressure for 120 mins at the last afcon
TheGoodJoe:


I have no doubt in the abilities of our players. Have you watched Ndidi's composure lately at Leicester? If Rodgers did not give him the nod, we would not know he is capable of such.

It is down to philosophy, scouting and training.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:53pm On May 20, 2020
safarigirl:
thank you
Happy Birthday SG keep flying higher and higher blessings

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:56pm On May 20, 2020
Nigeria
Sadio Mane Predicts Bright Future For Super Eagles – Nigeria Are Building A Very Strong Team
Liverpool star Sadio Mane says the Nigerian national team is among one of the team in Africa who are talented enough to challenge any country from any part of the world.
Rated as one of the best footballers at the moment, Mane was speaking in a YouTube interview monitored by Owngoalnigeria.com editorial team on the rise of African teams and if they can challenge countries from other continents.


Mane while analysing the strengths of African teams when compared with Nations from Europe, Asia and South America said it’s just a matter of time before African countries catch up with the rest of the world.
” Yeah we are up there with Algeria as Africa champions. Ghana is a traditional super power in African football just like Ivory Coast then the North African teams are very hard to play against. Nigeria has always been there and they are building a strong team with lot of players coming through”, he said.

” It’s just a matter of time and other African countries will step up against the rest of the world. Reaching the knock out rounds of the World Cup is nice but very soon a team from this continent will play in the final. The potential is there”.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:59pm On May 20, 2020
hahahahahaha! the problem we have as super eagles fans is that we hype our own to high heavens whereby turning blind eye to truth. the only ball playing defenders in the current super eagles are ajayi and aina. these are players who can pick out a deadly pass from defense not just playing the simple pass and also drive forward with the ball on their fee comfortably when the need arises. another who i monitored closely is tosin adarabioyo. awaziem also seem comfortable with the ball but not a regular in the team

which balogun are you talking about? the one that couldnt see regular playing time in lowly brighton and gifted madagascar a goal when trying to pass to the keeper at the last afcon?

have you seen the likes of van dyke,ramos,matip,skriniar,koulibally,pique just to mention a few with the ball on their feet?
sheyishemba:


we have a ball playing defender ...balogun Is a ball playing defender even ajayi can still function as a ball playing considering the fact he started his career as a DMF Ndidi can't hold but can break attack and pass the ball to a player close to him like aribo and aribo is technically sound and if aribo is technically sound why do we need etebo
remember has not been starting any match since aribo came to team
Thank you!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:00pm On May 20, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


That is why I am so angry with the induction of Yobo into the coaching crew. What technical expertise is he bringing to the table to assist Rohr in this aspect. In sane climes, no FA should leapfrog Amunike and Finidi that will bring an offensive dimension to the team to land on Yobo. Now they are prepping Yobo for the coaching job.

Bunch of jokers.
Amunike can't be a backup, Finidi can't be given the job because he criticized Rhor recently
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:04pm On May 20, 2020
Arabiandude:

Oga, it's non skillful players that can't play attacking football but gets their jobs on the pitch done, e.g Dele Alli.
Ejeria, Eze, Iwobi, Aribo can all play attacking football. And who said attacking football means tiki taka? Does Liverpool plays tiki taka?

what liverpool plays is massive attack and massive defense style of football thats why while watching them play you can hardly detect who their play maker is. they attack and defend from every position of the pitch with players who has plenty of energy to burn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:05pm On May 20, 2020
5inchdick:

I agree with the bolded.
But who are these players in our "pool of players? We really hype our average players so much.
I swear, see our defenders play for teams battling/close to relegation, division two teams or permanently average teams and we want to play attacking football against one of the best teams in the world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 2:08pm On May 20, 2020
komekn:


I don't know what exactly you disagree with. undecided

And what happened to Etebo in your opinion.

Many European coaches sometimes are not tactically astute to adapt thier game to meet the challenges of the English game.

Koeman outstanding coach became lost at Everton.

It's much easier not easy just less problematic to coach when you have better players or players suited to the system you know how to coach.



You said Koeman lost in Everton. May I remind how he worked magic at St Mary's?

If you are implying that his failure in Everton was because he lacks depth knowledge in ruggedness of Epl, then you are wrong! It's just like how Moyes f*cked up at united. Things like this happens once in a while.

'Koeman won his third Premier League Manager of the Month for January 2016,[33] on the way to Southampton's highest ever Premier League finish, sixth place, highest ever Premier League points total, 63, and qualification for the group stage of the UEFA Europa League'
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:10pm On May 20, 2020
charlesemeka85:
good question. them want tiki taka when they lack world class cm midfielders who are confident on possession. with the crop of players we have currently the best tactics is total football ie massive defense massive attack
No midfielders that can control a game, no defender that is comfortable with the ball at his feet but let's us play attacking football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:12pm On May 20, 2020
bros balling playing defenders is not about playing the simple pass side ways or to the dm or cm midfielder. there is a game italy played in 2016 euros which bonuci from the back traded a defense splitting pass to eder who scored, that want i mean by ball playing cb.
TheGoodJoe:


Ajayi is brilliant but also remember Ekong was brilliant playing the ball at the Olympics with Siasia. I think the system of the current Super Eagles have held Ekong back. He was a joy to watch at the Olympics.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 2:13pm On May 20, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


I almost fainted when Rohr was defending against South Africa. Like how?

on my part I felt we approached South Africa with the right tactics, it was obvious they were here for the counter attack

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:13pm On May 20, 2020
Danielnino00:


Your conclusion is the main thing..

Ejuke won't be the first winger we will have that will show so much promises....Even Onyekuru had better stats than him when he was in Belgium...
ejuke is a prospect no doubt but we still need to observe him for some time before we can conclude he's better than Mr A or B. sometimes we get carried away with some of our players performances without taking in the perspective of where he plays
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:13pm On May 20, 2020
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jihday:
I swear, see our defenders play for teams battling/close to relegation, division two teams or permanently average teams and we want to play attacking football against one of the best teams in the world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 2:17pm On May 20, 2020
komekn:


Bruv it's very very very difficult for a black coach to get a Managers job in England as well as in Europe.


The system is intrinsically racist and corrupted.

With all the black players you have in England and with thier European A licences they cannot get a job. Best you get is youth football.

Look at what happened to Darren Moore at West Bromwich and Chris Houghton at Newcastle. Blatant unrestrained racism.

This is the English life they never talk about in the news.


Are they good enough?
That should be the question.

If they are good enough, why are not seeing them in other top leagues?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:18pm On May 20, 2020
Danielnino00:


You overrate the championship..
Money is about the only thing the championship offers better than the leagues u mentioned there.. and maybe game time..

The championship is filled with average coaches who still play kick and rush football..that's why a lot of championship teams don't last in the EPL..

Any player looking to develop and improve himself shouldn't consider going to the championship or any second tier league unless he desperately needs game time...

Netherlands,France and Belgium have proven to be the best European leagues for young players to develop themselves
you are right these aforementioned leagues develop a players technical ability. championship basically just prepares you mentally and physically for the EPL

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