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Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=Liliantalks post=89779849] yes exactly, I love my delta brothers, everyone of them and we r always unified . So it’s sad seeing people argue over irrelevant things [/s] You're talking nonsense or maybe you're Urhobo guy hiding under Anioma

don’t even dare attack me . Be guided

Liliantalks:
I didn’t even know it was an urhobo dude ,but that’s really sad and immature of him , I can give a million and one reasons why the urhobos can’t measure up with the aniomas in different sectors, but I want to choose the path of peace.

The person you initially quoted was nwanyiogwashi

Mystiquefia:
You're saying absolute nonesense. did you see the useless thread she opened where she likened urhoboland to iran and anioma USA, that were deleted by the mods? she has opened about 2 more hate threads that were deleted and you're here trying to change the narratives. NONESENSE, atleast the only one thread i opened is on page 33 and has not being deleted even though u try to paint me as a tribal bigot

She isn't a Saint, but you Frathermathy is a chief bigot. Don't form innocent. Both of you are culpable in this dance of shame.

[[s]quote author=darfay post=89780193]


The person you initially quoted was nwanyiogwashi[/quote][/s] I only have one account here so please face the topic

Eastlink:
That’s you cup of tea, you can as well line your family and other confused IPOB members and vote for GEJ. Who loses at the end. You'll keep remaining irrelevant until your likes get sense.

See as the chosen race umuIgbo dey fight themselves anyhow for public in a failed attempt to defend Anioma

Nwanyiogwashi:
I don't pretend to like Urhobo people I don't do that

i love urhobo people I hv lived in Warri, sapele , oghara and abraka and I absolutely love them .

Liliantalks:
don’t even dare attack me . Be guided

Who are you?and what will you do? I don't fear any Urhobo people

darfay:
The person you initially quoted was nwanyiogwashi

I thought she was the one that opened the thread at first, my bad

Liliantalks:
i love urhobo people I hv lived in Warri, sapele , oghara and abraka and I absolutely love them .

you can as well marry them I don't care

Nwanyiogwashi:
Who are you?and what will you do? I don't fear any Urhobo people

u no well abeg .

Liliantalks:
thank you The aniomas r doing very well in the nollywood sector , and many other sectors u didn’t mention or know about . But it’s cool

Anioma dominate the financial sector and are also one of the southern group with huge concentration in the armed forces in southern Nigeria. Every family has a son in either the army, the navy, air force or police.

They very much are present in the movie industry, all thanks to the Asaba movie factor.

@pazienza not trying to appeal to emotion, the moniker is of questionable character, he/she has a motive of creating the account, very uncommon to attack your neighbors unprovoked.

How many Urhobos wake up every morning to attack Anioma unprovoked online?

darfay:
See as the chosen race umuIgbo dey fight themselves anyhow for public in a failed attempt to defend Anioma

Lol! For your mind, dream again. Political argument doesn't mean we are enemies. He's a GEJ supporter, and me over my dead body. How is it fighting.

Eastlink:
She isn't is a Saint, but you Frathermathy is a chief bigot. Don't form innocent. Both of you are culpable in this dance of shame.

Fixed

Nwanyiogwashi:
Who are you?and what will you do? I don't fear any Urhobo people

The Ada of Anioma land
Nwanyiogwashi, nwanyioma Carry go no shaking

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=YungMillionaire post=89779370]

So I am now Urhobo? Please tell me more. When and how did I become Urhobo?[/s] whoever you are won't stop me from quoting you

So you misquoted me. Instead of you to apologize and move on, you are here talking rubbish.

[[s]quote author=Efewestern post=89780308]

Anioma dominate the financial sector and are also one of the southern group with huge concentration in the armed forces in southern Nigeria. Every family has a son in either the army, the navy, air force or police.

They very much are present in the movie industry, all thanks to the Asaba movie factor.

@pazienza not trying to appeal to emotion, the moniker is of questionable character, he/she has a motive of creating the account, very uncommon to attack your neighbors unprovoked.

How many Urhobos wake up every morning to attack Anioma unprovoked online? [/quote[/s]] You can talking nonsense all you like but let me tell you that I don't pretend to like Urhobo so whatever you say is your business

YungMillionaire:
So you misquoted me. Instead of you to apologize and move on, you are here talking rubbish.

Who are you that I should apologize to

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=Efewestern post=89780308]

Anioma dominate the financial sector and are also one of the southern group with huge concentration in the armed forces in southern Nigeria. Every family has a son in either the army, the navy, air force or police.

They very much are present in the movie industry, all thanks to the Asaba movie factor.

@pazienza not trying to appeal to emotion, the moniker is of questionable character, he/she has a motive of creating the account, very uncommon to attack your neighbors unprovoked.

How many Urhobos wake up every morning to attack Anioma unprovoked online? [/quote[/s]] You can talking nonsense all you like but let me tell you that I don't pretend to like Urhobo so whatever you say is your business

Ada Anioma carry go

darfay:
The Ada of Anioma land
Nwanyiogwashi, nwanyioma Carry go no shaking

Shame on you , weyti Una Dey do for here na rubbish

[[s]quote author=darfay post=89780379]


The Ada of Anioma land
Nwanyiogwashi, nwanyioma Carry go no shaking[/quote][/s] what did you smoke

Liliantalks:
Shame on you , weyti Una Dey do for here na rubbish

She's just a child, she doesn't want to be reasoned with so. Don't take it too serious

Efewestern:
Anioma dominate the financial sector and are also one of the southern group with huge concentration in the armed forces in southern Nigeria. Every family has a son in either the army, the navy, air force or police.

They very much are present in the movie industry, all thanks to the Asaba movie factor.

@pazienza not trying to appeal to emotion, the moniker is of questionable character, he/she has a motive of creating the account, very uncommon to attack your neighbors unprovoked.

How many Urhobos wake up every morning to attack Anioma unprovoked online?

So why are you making it look like she is from SE and not Anioma?
How many people from SE wake up and start attacking Urhobo? What do we have in common with Urhobo to start attacking you? What do we in SE stand to gain from Urhobo? We don't share state with you nor boundaries. We are totally different people.

If at all an Urhobo should have problems with anyone, it should be your neighbors in Delta, either of Ijaw, Itsekiri, Isoko or Anioma.

What you did in that your post was trying to conjure shared Igbophobia amongst you all there and use it to unite in this thread, by trying to paint a picture of SE person coming to cause confusion in your midst.

If Nwanyiogwashi is not from Anioma or if what she is saying doesn't resonate with Anioma people here, how come non of them have come to this thread to disassociate themselves from her posts?
That's the question you should be asking yourself rather than descend to the old tested and trusted Unity built on shared Igbophobia you tried to bring up in your long post.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=darfay post=89780379]


The Ada of Anioma land
Nwanyiogwashi, nwanyioma Carry go no shaking[/s] what did you smoke

you are not anioma!!! U hate urhobo for what ? If u want to make points please do , but this I hate urhobo talk is meaningless

Mystiquefia:
Shut the f up and compile a list of prominent politicians from anioma. from the onset, i opted in politics for discussion. If anioma has any prominent politician known around the country mention them or keep quiet. lets see what u have in entertainment too

Ok let me rekindle your flailing memory incase you forgot...for politics name any Urhobo figure that can measure up anyone from these list:


Prof. Steve Agwo Okecha, renowned academic, author of international repute and elder statesman
Dennis Osadebe, politician, poet, journalist and former premier of the now defunct Mid-Western Region of Nigeria, which now comprises Edo and Delta State.
Sebastine Okoh >> SSA To Deputy Senate President ( CEO Stiinos)
Zulu Sofola, the first published female Nigerian playwright and dramatist and first female Professor of Theater Arts in Africa.
Buchi Emecheta, Nigerian-born British novelist
Godwin Emefiele, the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.
Gift Kenneth >> CEO GSP Global Services
Ifeanyi Okowa, former Nigerian Senator and Executive Governor of Delta State
Austine "Jay-Jay" Okocha, former Captain of Super Eagles of Nigeria
Sunday Oliseh, former Captain of super Eagles of Nigeria
Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, former Super Eagles captain and Malian National Football Team Coach
Nduka Ugbade, Nigeria's former football player and the first African to lift the world cup
Demas Nwoko, prominent Sculptor of Nigeria
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the current Managing Director of World Bank
Elizabeth Isichei, prominent historian
Obi Prof Joseph Chike Edozien, the Asagba of Asaba
Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, Minister of State for Petroleum
Jim Ovia, M/D Zenith Bank
Tony Elumelu, Chairman of Heirs Holdings, the United Bank for Africa, Transcorp and founder of The Tony Elumelu Foundation
Air-Marshal Paul Dike, former Chief of Defence Staff of Nigeria NASA
Joy Ogwu, former Mangaging Director of Nigeria Institute of International Affairs
Patrick Utomi, Presidential Candidate and Founder of Lagos Business School
Phillip Asiodu, former Federal Minister
Nduka Odizor, former Lawn tennis player
Maryam Babangida, wife of General Ibrahim Babangida
Chief. Sonny Iwedike Odogwu, business mogul
Chukwurah Joseph Udeh OFR, former Comptroller-General Nigerian Immigration Service
Obi senator Nosike Ikpo, former Senator of the Federal Republic
Chief Sabastine Adigwe, former MD, Afribank NIgeria PLC
Godswill Obielum, former Governorship Aspirant, Delta State
Peter Okocha, Governorship aspirant, Delta State and Business Mongul
Eddy Egwuenu, distinguished banker, co-founder Zenith Bank
Dr. Jude Chukwudi Dike, energy economist and prominent youth leader
Comrade Henry Ogochukwu, President General, Anioma People's Association and the President Skill and Ideas Development Initiatives
Dr. Newton Jibunor, famous Sahara traveller
Dr. Cyril Uchenna Gwam, diplomat, international civil servant and international environmentalist
Bonny B. N. Umeadi PhD, Technologist and Inventor of Micro/Nanosensor Devices to monitor oil and gas pipeline system
Comrade Akamesike Manuel O'coney Founder Anioma Voice Worldwide Inc. The common online umbrella body of all citizens of Anioma. Also Publisher of Anioma Voice Newsmagazine.
Dr Uche Honnah, President of Anioma, USA
Arc. Kester Ifeadi, Chairman/CEO Contemporary Group and President Organisation For the Advancement of Anioma Culture(OFAAC)
Engr. Emma Onyekwene, MD/CEO, Coolman Oil Services
Chief G.N. Ogwude (Late), Mathematician and Academician
Colonel Joseph "Hannibal" Achuzie
Chief Epiphany Azinge, a Professor and a Senior Advocate of Nigeria. Former Director of Nigerian Institute of Advance Legal Studies.(NIALS).

Guy I'm tired of going over this with you, in politics no Urhobo can wipe Dennis Osadebe's legacy CASE CLOSED.

Entertainment: ok comedy I doff hat for una for that one, you dominate. Although we have Basketmouth and Buchi

Football: one word OGA JJ OKOCHA, I doubt there's any football loving nation that doesn't know these legend so it's CASS CLOSED here... I never mention Sunday Oliseh, Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, Nduka Ugbade etc

Banking/commerce & Economics: some of the finest breeds in AFRICA in these sector have come from Anioma, Igbo's definitely dominate this sector when it comes to the BEST BRAINS Nigeria has ever produced.

Education: Check my list, Anioma has always been the light of Delta state when it comes to topping the chart of the academia, Urhobo is doing well though

Nollywood: Asaba is now the biggest movie production hub in Delta state, and definitely among the best in Nigeria... all your familiar Nollywood celebrities come to Asaba to shoot their movies.

Like which indices do you want to bring? guy I'm tired of going back and forth with you on this, I love Urhobo nation and you guys are my people, so I don't want to drag these issue any further. Let us all live and let live.

Mystiquefia:
In politics from the military regime to date urhobos have produced notable names like ogbemudia(midwest governor)
general patrick aziza
Olusoji Fasuba- Sprinter
In Entertainment we have
ALIBABA- king of comedy
Richard Mofe Damijo
Please check your records very well are these people Urhobos?

Fasuba is not Urhobo he is from Anioma (Olukunmi) - that's where his Yoruba name comes from.

UPDATED: I made a mistake. He is not from Anioma. He is from Ekiti state.

Mystiquefia:
Shut the f up and compile a list of prominent politicians from anioma. from the onset, i opted in politics for discussion. If anioma has any prominent politician known around the country mention them or keep quiet. lets see what u have in entertainment too

Dennis Osadebe is the reason why Urhobo aren't under the control of the Yorubas today, his ingenuity alone along with Ziks help saw to it that the Midwest region was NOT under Awolowo's Western regions grip... that alone is a legacy you probably don't know about, or appreciate enough.

[[s]quote author=Liliantalks post=89780569] you are not anioma!!! U hate urhobo for what ? If u want to make points please do , but this I hate urhobo talk is meaningless[/quote][/s] whatever you think is non of my business, I don dash you to Urhobo they must apologize to me for posting fake Facebook account against me if not they should get read for war between me and all of them even in Delta state

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=Liliantalks post=89780569] you are not anioma!!! U hate urhobo for what ? If u want to make points please do , but this I hate urhobo talk is meaningless [/s] whatever you think is non of my business, I don dash you to Urhobo they must apologize to me for posting fake Facebook account against me if not they should get read for war between me and all of them even in Delta state

okay welldone, continue

Nwanyiogwashi:
Who are you that I should apologize to

Irrelevant. If you are sane you will apologize for your mistake. Are you sane?

9jakool:
Here is my take on this
1.) It's true there is an obvious linguistic and cultural link between the Igalas and Yoruba, I will admit that. However, Igala won't have been Yoruba even without the supposed kwararafan colonization you are referring to. The Niger river clearly demarcates Okun from Igala.

2.) The extent of Kwararafa migration is overexagerated by middle belt groups. So, Kogi Central was uninhabited when the Ebira came. I'm I supposed to belief that somehow the Ebira didn't keep traces of their Jukun language, but suddenly adopted a new tongue?

3.) My hypothesis is that the Ebira many groups molded their oral history after Kwararafa formation due to the prestige it serves. Ebira are more likely to be related to Nupe that anything Jukun, but that's their oral history and not my concern.

4.) Whatever the case may be, Igalas and Yoruba are separate ethnic groups and the rest is history.

Sunshineg5, forgiveness, YungMillionaire

Come and see how sensible people debate and comment.

@ forgiveness, you are an intelligent person and I will disregard your trolling of yesterday, cos that is not you. ... Unless perhaps you have changed.

@9jakool

1) Yes you are correct, the River Niger puts a strong natural boundary between Yorubas and Igalas, but don't forget that there are Igalas in Ajaokuta LGA, on your side of the River.

Besides, I don't see the strong reason why a River would have prevented Igalas from being Yorubanized if there wasn't a Kwararafan interference. The River Niger did not stop the Igbonization of Anioma, although it reduced it significantly.
Igalas would have ended up to you Yorubas like Anioma is to Igbos today without Kwararafan interference and not an entirely different ethnic group.
Infact for me, I think, if not for Ebira separation, Igala would have still been to you people like Itsekiri is to you now.

There is no reason why a Yoruba speaking group (Igalas) will be next door to another Yoruba speaking group (Okun) and one will come under the Yoruba nation without the other. It never happened anywhere in Nigeria among the big 3 tribes.


2 & 3) Pls get this clear. By all records, Kwararafa was never a monolingual or monoethnic empire. The Jukunoid tribes were the leaders but not the only people there. There were also the APA people (Idomas, Igedes, Agatus, Yallas & Yaches of Cross River e.t.c), Mumuye speaking tribes and many others.

Ebira speaking tribes were also part of the Empire. I hope u know that Ebira tao (of Kogi central) are not the only Ebira speaking people? Infact, by Ebira oral traditions, the Taos are the youngest and this is one reason why Ebira unity is difficult. The Egburas (Ebira Koto & Opanda) of FCT, Koton karfe & Nasarawa will never want to submit or be under the Ebira tao cos to them Tao is junior, but Tao has the numbers today.

Ebiras are not just claiming Kwararafa for nothing. Do u know that Ebiras greet their Kings AGABAIDU? Same with Igalas, Apas, Jukunoids and almost all the other Kwararafan tribes? OHI is the word for king in Ebira, in Idoma/Apa languages it is OCHI, unlike Nupe speaking & Gbagyi tribes who call king ETSU.
Atta is father in Ebira, Jukunoid languages too, hence the Attah of Igala land.
don't you see the similarities between Ebiras and other Kwararafan tribes? And there was never a time when Kwararafan influence crossed the Niger and influenced Ebiras. So it is impossible to say Kwararafan influence came on the Ebiras after the Igalas.
Ebiras consider Agatus (an Idomoid group) to be their people and call them Ebira Agatu. Agatus are neighbors of the Ebira kotos (Egburas) in Nasarawa. So you see the link?
Ebiras definitely left present day Agatu area and started migrating Westwards till they reached the Niger.
Oral history also has it that they lived with the Igalas for a short time before they reached Kogi central.

The land Ebiras settled in Kogi central as you can see is very small and hilly. Sandwiched between Okuns & Igalas.
Yoruba tribes have never been hill settlers or people of hilly/mountaineous cultures. I know that Ebiras couldn't have met the place completely empty. I suspect that they must have met these mountain cultured Oko/Akoko speaking group of people there whom they must have displaced and absorbed.


4) Yes, Igalas & Yorubas are separate today because of Kwararafan interference and nothing else. It is the same reason why Itsekiri is almost different from Yoruba due to Benin interference/difficult terrain boundaries.

Igalas speak a Yoruba based language. They are more related to you people than Eguns in Ogun/Lagos who speak an entirely different language yet some Yorubas still claim Eguns to be Yoruba. Heck, Igalas are even more related to you Yorubas than the mountaineous people of Akoko area who speak entirely unrelated languages to you guys but are being Yorubanized and claimed as Yorubas.

it seems we like fighting each other, this morning I opened a thread: www-nairaland-com.0.freebasics.com/5870257/youth-must-avoid-these-two?iorg_service_id_internal=1646953538912597">https://https-www-nairaland-com.0.freebasics.com/5870257/youth-must-avoid-these-two?iorg_service_id_internal=1646953538912597%3BAfpOYYweFhLee9rc
to discourage tribalistic statements, no body respond to it even till now later in the evening I opened another one concern Yoruba, Benin and ukwuanis, not less then 2 minutes hate and issulting comments begin to roll it. that tells you how deep we have hatred for each other, I later correct all of the them on the need to shun tribalistic fight before modifying it to suit the purpose of the trend which is to discourage tribalism.
I stand against tribalistic fight
I stand against hatred
I stand for love
let love lead!

pazienza:
So why are you making it look like she is from SE and not Anioma?
How many people from SE wake up and start attacking Urhobo? What do we have in common with Urhobo to start attacking you? What do we in SE stand to gain from Urhobo? We don't share state with you nor boundaries. We are totally different people.

If at all an Urhobo should have problems with anyone, it should be your neighbors in Delta, either of Ijaw, Itsekiri, Isoko or Anioma.

What you did in that your post was trying to conjure shared Igbophobia amongst you all there and use it to unite in this thread, by trying to paint a picture of SE person coming to cause confusion in your midst.

If Nwanyiog.washi is not from Anioma or if what she is saying doesn't resonate with Anioma people here, how come non of them have come to this thread to disassociate themselves from her posts?
That's the question you should be asking yourself rather than descend to the old tested and trusted Unity built on shared Igbophobia you tried to bring up in your long post.

Where in my post did I say he/she is from SE? I only implied that she has a motive of creating the account which isn't beneficiary to Deltans. it's very uncommon to find an Anioma child attacking others unprovoked.

My initial post wasn't meant to paint any picture, but to send a message, that the moniker is trying to stir up a tribal battle online and should be ignored, once told Mystiquefia to let her be with her rants.

What were you expecting me to do? encourage others to engage her? to what end? start unnecessary competition when we have serious issues at hand?

I have seen so many demeaning words from that account, yet I didn't react neither did I call any one out, I have no issues with you or your people. everybody they maintain he lane.

Liliantalks is also questioning her person.