RuudVanNisteroy:

There is no basis why women should not occupy at least 40% of management positions. You are just repeating the talking points of a patriarchal society used to justify the discrimination against women when it comes to appointment into management positions.

So because women constitute almost fifty percent of the populace, then they should constitute almost same in the corporate world? Other than allowing women into the workplace not too long ago, how many women work as long as men? How many study courses which lead to management positions compared to men? How many take maternity leave compared to men doing same with paternity leave? How many negotiate successfully as men? Studies show that women who give birth don't progress in the workplace as their counterparts who don't give birth. The motherhood tax is the greatest impediment to the vast majority of women climbing up the career ladder in most countries and that's not the fault of men. There are gazillions of contraceptives available these days. You make it seem like because a class has an equal population of both genders, it must have her best graduands in equal proportion whereas equal opportunities ≠ equal outcomes

RuudVanNisteroy:
The average Nigerian assumes all their friends and family members abroad are living the good life and sipping on champagne. That is not the true reality for most Nigerians that choose to relocate abroad. Jobs one will never have contemplated such as security, cleaner,cashier,warehouse worker becomes an attractive prospect to most immigrants living abroad to put food on their table and have shelter over their heads.

The truth is if you want to achieve your full potential and acquire wealth, then staying back in Nigeria is the best option. In terms of fixed and liquid assets you will find majority of your peers in Nigeria have surpassed you. Life abroad for even those with white collar jobs involves: lay-offs and a mortgage you will spend 10-30 years paying off.

What relocation abroad offers you and your children is security which no money can buy in Nigeria. You can travel across any western country after midnight without fear of running into kidnappers,ritualists,armed robbers and facing extortion from law enforcement.Also, the stress of not worrying about your children when they venture to any part of the city at odd hours of the night is something that cannot be bought with money.

What well to do Nigerians realize is that their money can't buy security or health. Nigeria has descended to full anarchy, that unless you move with bulletproof car and have a battalion of armed soldiers and mopols your safety is not guaranteed. Every Nigerian has been affected by the insecurity plaguing the country. One of the memories I remember as a child was when my family got attacked by armed robbers along Benin-Ore expressway and later in my University days when my Dad got kidnapped for a week.

The reason most Nigerians choose to relocate abroad is to sleep with two eyes closed and to live in environment where the security of their family is guaranteed.

Dude no where or country is secured this days..

DeeFlask:

I don't even like USA self

Is it Canada that just had a maniac shoot up many people the other day is better? Keep decieving yourself with that..

RuudVanNisteroy:

No one is disputing what you stated about Nigeria. It is the worse country I ever lived in and in all my travels by far the most dangerous and disorganized.
However, if you have the connections in Nigeria, you can make a fortune in the corporate world and achieve your full potential based on merit. Why do you think expatriates rush to Nigeria?They make more money in Nigeria than they would back home.

I think you guys need to stop this narrative of expats rushing to Nigeria because it is not true. In fact, the opposite actually obtains. Nigeria is regarded as one of the least considered destinations for expatriates. Expats generally consider South Africa or even Ghana if they want to experience Africa. In practical terms, how many oyinbos do you actually see living in Nigeria compared to Nigerians in other countries? The few expats that come here are those who cannot find anything good elsewhere and are bottom of the barrel in the expats pool.

The fact still remains that there are few opportunities in Nigeria for you to reach your potential as an ambitious young person. Merit is hardly considered in this country and there's hardly any commensurate reward for effort. In a population of more than 200 million people, how many people actually have the connection or the opportunity to reach their potential? This is despite the abysmally low standard of living and HDI indexes plaguing the country. We really need to be realistic and stop seeing things through rose colored glasses. The cons of living in Nigeria severely outweighs the pros, especially as a young person who wants to live a good life.

See this link on a report of Nigeria being among the 10 least considered countries for expats globally. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pulse.ng/bi/lifestyle-nigeria-is-among-10-least-considered-countries-of-destination-for/ysmcv1e.amp

Double post.

Resees:

Dude no where or country is secured this days..

Canada and Netherlands are secure,only the Prime Minister's move around with convoys. You can run into a billionaire, Senator,Governor in the mall,park or casually riding their bikes. I met the Prime Minister when he came to my school and he only came with a 4 car convoy.

Unlike Nigeria, which is the equivalent of a war zone, where even a Local Government Chairman has a 4 car armed convoy and Governors move with 20 plus car armed convoys with soldiers and mopols armed to the teeth. At end of the day, it still does not guarantee security, look at what happened to Bola Ige, the former Attorney General and Alex Badeh the former Chief of Air Staff.

tensazangetsu20:
How easy is it to actually be rich in Nigeria? Your business can only be as successful as the quality of your Market. Nigerians today are much poorer than ever and are getting poorer. It's being estimated that by 2050, 40 percent of the world's poorest will be Nigerians. What kind of business do you want to run in the midst of stark poverty to acquire the billions people talk about.

Most people who say these things have never in their lives ran a business in Nigeria. For people born in the 90s, leave Nigeria if you can. We aren't responsible for fixing this country at all. We were all born into this mess. We are so much more poorer than our parents and predecessors it's insane. Compare us to our mates in the west and in Asia and we are so far behind. It's not uncommon for people to be unemployed for 5 6 7 years living with their parents until their 30s and early 30s.

The country is doomed and will only get worse. As for the get rich in Nigeria crew, time is coming when you would bring a container load of goods and you won't be able to sell a single farthing. The poverty here is increasing and spreading amongst the populace.

Ps people who are earning millions monthly working in posh corporate jobs are leaving the zoohole and it's someone who doesn't make 100k a month that believes he will be Dangote in Nigeria . Nigerians abroad in 2016 sent in more money than Nigeria as a country made in revenue.

So life is all about money and wealth? You think people that are abroad working themselves into the ground are all happy with the lives they are all living here? Do you know how many people that are moving back to Africa every year? Look it up

Resees:

Dude no where or country is secured this days..

You're right. No country is totally safe, but some countries are much more safer than others. You can't compare the amount of violent deaths and crimes in Nigeria to any Western country. What with kidnappers, armed robbers, Boko Haram, police brutality, and fulani herdsman? Western countries may have some of these problems, but certainly not at the level of Nigeria. No country is perfect, but making decisions all boils down to a game of comparison (i.e. which is better or worse) and going with the lesser evil.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Canada and Netherlands are secure,only the Prime Minister's move around with convoys. You can run into a billionaire, Senator,Governor in the mall,park or riding their bikes.

Unlike Nigeria, which is the equivalent of a war zone, where even a Local Government Chairman has a 4 car armed convoy and Governors move with 20 plus car armed convoys with soldiers and mopols armed to the teeth. At end of the day, it still does not guarantee security, look at what happened to Bola Ige, the former Attorney General and Alex Badeh the former Chief of Air Staff.

And do you think those people you mentioned actually like you presence in their country?

Resees:

So life is all about money and wealth? You think people that are abroad working themselves into the ground are all happy with the lives they are all living here? Do you know how many people that are moving back to Africa every year? Look it up

Healthcare, security, good education, opportunities. What does Nigeria offer except poverty and hopelessness especially for an average Nigerian from a poor background. An American child born to poor parents in America has way more opportunities than a middle class child in Nigeria born to Nigerian parents and it's the same for Europe and advanced countries in Asia.

tensazangetsu20:
How easy is it to actually be rich in Nigeria? Your business can only be as successful as the quality of your Market. Nigerians today are much poorer than ever and are getting poorer. It's being estimated that by 2050, 40 percent of the world's poorest will be Nigerians. What kind of business do you want to run in the midst of stark poverty to acquire the billions people talk about.

Most people who say these things have never in their lives ran a business in Nigeria. For people born in the 90s, leave Nigeria if you can. We aren't responsible for fixing this country at all. We were all born into this mess. We are so much more poorer than our parents and predecessors it's insane. Compare us to our mates in the west and in Asia and we are so far behind. It's not uncommon for people to be unemployed for 5 6 7 years living with their parents until their 30s and early 30s.

The country is doomed and will only get worse. As for the get rich in Nigeria crew, time is coming when you would bring a container load of goods and you won't be able to sell a single farthing. The poverty here is increasing and spreading amongst the populace.

Ps people who are earning millions monthly working in posh corporate jobs are leaving the zoohole and it's someone who doesn't make 100k a month that believes he will be Dangote in Nigeria . Nigerians abroad in 2016 sent in more money than Nigeria as a country made in revenue.

Even, the dangote,adenuga,otedola,has government help in their wealth

tensazangetsu20:

Healthcare, security, good education, opportunities. What does Nigeria offer except poverty and hopelessness especially for an average Nigerian from a poor background. An American child born to poor parents in America has way more opportunities than a middle class child in Nigeria born to Nigerian parents and it's the same for Europe and advanced countries in Asia.

Nigeria is developing and things are actually improving each day it might not be at the pace you all want it but they will get there and by the way the countries you all are running were fixed and fought to make it better by there citizens.you all need to fight to fix yoyr country as well

Resees:

Nigeria is developing and things are actually improving each day it might not be at the pace you all want it but they will get there and by the way the countries you all are running were fixed and fought to make it better by there citizens.you all need to fight to fix yoyr country as well

Nigeria is not developing in anyway. In fact it's underdeveloping. We went from a ten percent year on year GDP growth to being poverty capital of the world. Nigeria has seriously retrogressed over the past few years. Things have never been so bad as they are today and it's gonna get worse.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Research and statistics shows besides America, the composition of management positions does not reflect the population demographics. Your defence of why blacks don't occupy management positions in western countries is falsehood. The majority of Nigerians I know went to the best schools and come from wealthy backgrounds.
Lots of research and statistics still point to the fact that race and gender will play a factor in how far you go in the western world. Major corporations,educational institutions and political parties have noticed the imbalance and are trying to appoint more minorities into leadership positions.
I am sure you put up the same defence when oil companies in Nigeria never appointed a Nigerian MD/CEO to manage the affairs since independence, untiil the early 2000's.

Why should the composition of management positions reflect the demographic population? You didn't consider factors as which group is more entrepreneurial, goes to top institutions more than another, adapts to the country's corporate culture etc. You keep mentioning minorities but omit Asians who are classified as minorities yet continue to outpace other groups. Yes, there's an imbalance but how did Asians "balance this imbalance" whereas blacks didn't/couldn't/don't? Besides, the imbalance will continue to be there except you want non-whites to be in every top position instead of the vast majority.

Let me get you straight, blacks must constitute a proportion of management positions that reflects their demographics? Not because of the quality of migrants? The route they take to acclimatise in the society? Who adapted to the country's corporate culture better? BTW, one can say why not give a Chinese a management position after all, his society has shown that she offers value than another demographic?

Resees:

Dude no where or country is secured this days..

This is true. However, when you consider that some cities have continued to be amongst the safest cities globally for three consecutive surveys, you will agree with me that some cities are more safer than others. Tokyo has been the world's safest city in the world yet it's the most populated city globally. Same for Singapore and Osaka. Then again, some societies have cultures which encourage honesty and community hood. In summary, not all cultures are equal.

tensazangetsu20:

Nigeria is not developing in anyway. In fact it's underdeveloping. We went from a ten percent year on year GDP growth to being poverty capital of the world. Nigeria has seriously retrogressed over the past few years. Things have never been so bad as they are today and it's gonna get worse.

And you dont think it will bounce back?

Resees:

And you dont think it will bounce back?

Trust me Nigeria of the next 20 years is better imagined than lived through. 2020 will be a paradise compared to what is coming.

tensazangetsu20:

Trust me Nigeria of the next 20 years is better imagined than lived through. 2020 will be a paradise compared to what is coming.

What other african country can someone move to i like to live among my kind..

Resees:

What other african country can someone move to i like to live among my kind..

Honestly I won't really advise you to move to any African nation except South Africa. Try gaining rare skills and applying to jobs there. You never know but don't bank on Nigeria to get better.

tensazangetsu20:

Honestly I won't really advise you to move to any African nation except South Africa. Try gaining rare skills and applying to jobs there. You never know but don't bank on Nigeria to get better.

So i should just accept that i will live all my life as a minority and be objected to racism through out my stay on this earth??

Resees:

So i should just accept that i will live all my life as a minority and be objected to racism through out my stay on this earth??

Are you better off in Nigeria? If you aren't Fulani your own president has already labelled you 5 percent. 95 percent of Nigerians living in the zoological Republic are worse than second class citizens. A country where you have no basic human right. You can leave your house get shot by the police and that's the end. Nigeria is a zoo.

tensazangetsu20:

Are you better off in Nigeria? If you aren't Fulani your own president has already labelled you 5 percent. 95 percent of Nigerians living in the zoological Republic are worse than second class citizens. A country where you have no basic human right. You can leave your house get shot by the police and that's the end. Nigeria is a zoo.

I average Nigerian fears the police and army more than armed robbers and kidnapper

Gerrard59:


Why should the composition of management positions reflect the demographic population? You didn't consider factors as which group is more entrepreneurial, goes to top institutions more than another, adapts to the country's corporate culture etc. You keep mentioning minorities but omit Asians who are classified as minorities yet continue to outpace other groups. Yes, there's an imbalance but how did Asians "balance this imbalance" whereas blacks didn't/couldn't/don't? Besides, the imbalance will continue to be there except you want non-indigenes to be in every top position instead of the vast majority. Let me get you straight, blacks must constitute a proportion of management positions that reflects their demographics? Not because of the quality of migrants? The route they take to acclimatise in the society? Who adapted to the country's corporate culture better? BTW, one can say why not give a Chinese a management position after all, his society has shown that she offers value than another demographic?

Name all the best school in the world Harvard,Oxford,Cambridge,Mcgill.Western and there were blacks graduating from those universities since the 1960's. How many of the become CEO's or or sat in the board of major corporations?Race will always be a factor.

ogalawyer:
I think you guys need to stop this narrative of expats rushing to Nigeria because it is not true. In fact, the opposite actually obtains. Nigeria is regarded as one of the least considered destinations for expatriates. Expats generally consider South Africa or even Ghana if they want to experience Africa. In practical terms, how many oyinbos do you actually see living in Nigeria compared to Nigerians in other countries? The few expats that come here are those who cannot find anything good elsewhere and are bottom of the barrel in the expats pool.

The fact still remains that there are few opportunities in Nigeria for you to reach your potential as an ambitious young person. Merit is hardly considered in this country and there's hardly any commensurate reward for effort. In a population of more than 200 million people, how many people actually have the connection or the opportunity to reach their potential? This is despite the abysmally low standard of living and HDI indexes plaguing the country. We really need to be realistic and stop seeing things through rose colored glasses. The cons of living in Nigeria severely outweighs the pros, especially as a young person who wants to live a good life.

See this link on a report of Nigeria being among the 10 least considered countries for expats globally. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pulse.ng/bi/lifestyle-nigeria-is-among-10-least-considered-countries-of-destination-for/ysmcv1e.amp

You claim the expatriates that come to Nigeria are bottom of the barrel and they still come to the country as Project Managers and make $20-50K a month mostly due to the security premium they receive.

tensazangetsu20:

Are you better off in Nigeria? If you aren't Fulani your own president has already labelled you 5 percent. 95 percent of Nigerians living in the zoological Republic are worse than second class citizens. A country where you have no basic human right. You can leave your house get shot by the police and that's the end. Nigeria is a zoo.

Lol quite true and sad but i want that freedom and dont think working till i die just to pay taxes or getting look down on just because of my skin color or loosing a job that i am more qualified to a lesser white person its real out here man.

Resees:

Nigeria is developing and things are actually improving each day it might not be at the pace you all want it but they will get there and by the way the countries you all are running were fixed and fought to make it better by there citizens.you all need to fight to fix yoyr country as well

Nigeria is a failed state and you suffer from delusions of grandeur if you state otherwise. The day I knew this was the reality when the President fled the country for medical tourism to UK for three months and after coming back he did nothing to fix the healthcare back home.

In terms of governance-corruption is at an all time high.You can even collect $5 million bribes in front of cameras like Ganduje and ferry two bullion vans to your house like Tinubu and get away it.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Name all the best school in the world Harvard,Oxford,Cambridge,Mcgill.Western and there were blacks graduating from those universities since the 1960's. How many of the become CEO's or or sat in the board of major corporations?Race will always be a factor.

Sure there have been many black people who entered top schools over the years and while you are right regarding race as a factor, that's not the only factor because there have been many non-whites who have climbed to top management positions. Then again, we should compare the number of blacks entering these institutions and compare to say Indians and Chinese to make a better judgement. You make it seem like racism is the only factor. BTW, it amuses me when I see black immigrants fight for equality in western countries whereas they did not do same in their homelands.

tensazangetsu20:

Trust me Nigeria of the next 20 years is better imagined than lived through. 2020 will be a paradise compared to what is coming.

Quoted for reference purposes. Hopefully, life tarries long enough, I'll want to recheck this post in the year 2040.

Resees:

What other african country can someone move to i like to live among my kind..

The only two African countries making progress are Botswana and Namibia. However,they make obtaining legal stay for their fellow Africans almost impossible. They want only wealthy Africans and you can obtain permanent residency to these countries if you invest a $100,000 thousand dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-w4IZDFJow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48t1oJQeqvw

RuudVanNisteroy:

The only two African countries making progress are Botswana and Namibia. However,they make obtaining legal stay for their fellow Africans almost impossible. They want only wealthy Africans and you can obtain permanent residency to these countries if you invest a $100,000 thousand dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-w4IZDFJow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48t1oJQeqvw

But i see a lot of AAmericans moving there..Dont tell me they paid the 100k? I wouldnt mind buying a land and building up a cozy life over there just wish it will be in Nigeria instead.

Resees:

But i see a lot of AAmericans moving there..Dont tell me they paid the 100k? I wouldnt mind buying a land and building up a cozy life over there just wish it will be in Nigeria instead.

Citizens of G7 countries like USA have different requirement and it is easier for them to migrate to Botswana or Namibia. However, the rules are more stringent for Nigerian's partyly due to our record and reputation for staying in countries illegally.

Gerrard59:


Sure there have been many black people who entered top schools over the years and while you are right regarding race as a factor, that's not the only factor because there have been many non-whites who have climbed to top management positions. Then again, we should compare the number of blacks entering these institutions and compare to say Indians and Chinese to make a better judgement. You make it seem like racism is the only factor. BTW, it amuses me when I see black immigrants fight for equality in western countries whereas they did not do same in their homelands.

The reason is black immigrants can fight in western countries to live another day. However, in their homeland any fight to change the status quo were the elite loot billions of dollars annually, they will face detention and live bullets.