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Matthew 21:46
New International Version
They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

New Living Translation
They wanted to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

English Standard Version
And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.

Berean Study Bible
Although they wanted to arrest Him, they were afraid of the crowds, because the people regarded Him as a prophet.

Berean Literal Bible
And seeking to lay hold of Him, they feared the crowds, because they were holding Him as a prophet.

New American Standard Bible
When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet.

New King James Version
But when they sought to lay hands on Him, they feared the multitudes, because they took Him for a prophet.

King James Bible
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

Christian Standard Bible
Although they were looking for a way to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because the people regarded him as a prophet.

Contemporary English Version
So they looked for a way to arrest Jesus. But they were afraid to, because the people thought he was a prophet.

Good News Translation
so they tried to arrest him. But they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Although they were looking for a way to arrest Him, they feared the crowds, because they regarded Him as a prophet.

International Standard Version
Although they wanted to arrest him, they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

NET Bible
They wanted to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowds, because the crowds regarded him as a prophet.

New Heart English Bible
When they sought to seize him, they feared the crowds, because they considered him to be a prophet.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they sought to seize him and they were afraid of the crowds, because they were holding him as a Prophet.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
They wanted to arrest him but were afraid of the crowds, who thought he was a prophet.

New American Standard 1977
And when they sought to seize Him, they feared the multitudes, because they held Him to be a prophet.

King James 2000 Bible
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

American King James Version
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

American Standard Version
And when they sought to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, because they took him for a prophet.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And seeking to lay hands on him, they feared the multitudes: because they held him as a prophet.

Darby Bible Translation
And seeking to lay hold of him, they were afraid of the crowds, because they held him for a prophet.

English Revised Version
And when they sought to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, because they took him for a prophet.

Webster's Bible Translation
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

Weymouth New Testament
but though they were eager to lay hands upon Him, they were afraid of the people, for by them He was regarded as a Prophet.

World English Bible
When they sought to seize him, they feared the multitudes, because they considered him to be a prophet.

Young's Literal Translation
and seeking to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, seeing they were holding him as a prophet.

And to top it, the epicenter they worship called Israel which is dominated by Jews do not even believe he is the Messiah. The believe the messiah is yet to come.

Furthermore, Same Israel they claim to be their epicenter as less than 3% Christians and 17% Muslims.

People need to be orientated.

What exactly is now your point? That Jesus wasn't the Christ? Now when Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, Who do people say that the Son of Man is?

14And they answered, Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

15He said to them, But who do you [yourselves] say that I am?

16Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17Then Jesus answered him, Blessed (happy, fortunate, and [d]to be envied) are you, Simon Bar-Jonah. For flesh and blood [men] have not revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in heaven.
(Matthew 16 vs 13-17)

So u picked 1 verse out of the bible to proclaim your idea. Don't be disappointed that we don't give meaning to things like that in the bible. You must have more than 1 verse to support ur claim. Someone has helped with a verse in Matthew that opposes ur claim.
Christianity is beyond ur knowledge, u had better learn or just stay off. U can't understand it.

1 Corinthians:2.14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Is that not what caused all His problem. Is it not because He said He was the Son of God that He wall killed. What exactly is your point this man.

plavic:
What exactly is now your point? That Jesus wasn't the Christ? Now when Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, Who do people say that the Son of Man is?

14And they answered, Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

15He said to them, But who do you [yourselves] say that I am?

16Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17Then Jesus answered him, Blessed (happy, fortunate, and [d]to be envied) are you, Simon Bar-Jonah. For flesh and blood [men] have not revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in heaven.
(Matthew 16 vs 13-17)

Jesus is son of God like you are son of God.

So because of that we should quit christianity and follow what one delusional sex maniac has brainwashed you with? Why are you limited to marrying 4 wives when your so-called prophet can marry 13 or more including his own daughter in-law?

OgunLaakaye:
And to top it, the epicenter they worship called Israel which is dominated by Jews do not even believe he is the Messiah. The believe the messiah is yet to come.

Furthermore, Same Israel they claim to be their epicenter as less than 3% Christians and 17% Muslims.

People need to be orientated.

Orientated or brain washed? Who make up that 17% if not arab palestinians? The descendants of muslim invaders? stop fooling yourselves, it was almost 100% muslim after your islamic terrorists invaded isreal, just like they violently conquered north africa and some parts of europe which where mostly christian dominated states in the past. Why was mohammed obssessed with isreal?

veeshock:
So because of that we should quit christianity and follow what one delusional sex maniac has brainwashed you with? Why are you limited to marrying 4 wives when your so-called prophet can marry 13 or more including his own daughter in-law?


Orientated or brain washed? Who make up that 17% if not arab palestinians? The descendants of muslim invaders? stop fooling yourselves, it was almost 100% muslim after your islamic terrorists invaded isreal, just like they conquered north africa and some parts of europe in the past through violence. Why was mohammed obssessed with isreal?

Why are you using Islam to attack me. Did I tell you I am a muslim? You lots just detest the truth. You all same.

Fact I have told you, deal with it.

If you have constructive criticisms to what have stated, table it. Am not in for this Muslim Christian palaver.

Table facts!

OgunLaakaye:
Why are you using Islam to attack me. Did I tell you I am a muslim? You lots just detest the truth. You all same.

Fact I have told you, deal with it.

If you have constructive criticisms to what have stated, table it. Am not in for this Muslim Christian palaver.

Table facts!

What truth? Spare me the joke. Facts are different from half-truths, which is what you represent. Any way for your info, which I doubt you have any interests in orelse you would have known already; to the Jews the Messiah is one who would restore the State of Isreal free from oppression, like Moses did when they were in egypt....more of a political figure than a Religious leader. Jesus Christ was in fact apolitical.

veeshock:
What truth? Spare me the joke. Facts are different from half-truths, which is what you represent. Any way for your info, which I doubt you have any interests in orelse you would have known already; to the Jews the Messiah is one who would restore the State of Isreal free from oppression, like Moses did when they were in egypt....more of a political figure than a Religious leader. Jesus Christ was in fact apolitical.

I know you are not a jew, but if it might interest you, I dine with jews even though I cant quote the Torah like they do. The messiah is yet to come and even Jesus was a jew who never stated the word "Christianity" The religion came after his death. Jews dont believe in resurrection.

I once asked why Israel is seen as the foundation of Christianity and was told it was baseless. Right at that point.. Google was used to pull-out facts to cement their point and the discussion passed as I was enlightened by the very people that call themselves jews. Then did I even know that Muslim are more populous in Israel than Christians..

You can also use Google to get fact. I did my research also and I found it same way. Just 3%

That link is very enlightening.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/what-do-jews-believe-about-jesus/

OgunLaakaye:
I know you are not a jew, but if it might interest you, I dine with jews even though I cant quote the Torah like they do. The messiah is yet to come and even Jesus was a jew who never stated the word "Christianity" The religion came after his death. Jews dont believe in resurrection.

I once asked why Israel is seen as the foundation of Christianity and was told it was baseless. Right at that point.. Google was used to pull-out facts to cement their point and the discussion passed as I was enlightened by the very people that call themselves jews. Then did I even know that Muslim are more populous in Israel than Christians..

You can also use Google to get fact. I did my research also and I found it same way. Just 3%

You shot yourself at the foot already in your attempt to prove that the jews accpet islam more than christianity, you can only deceive yourself like the typical muslim, the question is who do that muslim 17% represent? Jews or palestinians? Do one need the input of jews to know the truth when history is documented?
There is nothing in your link different from what I have said, the jews expect a messiah who is more of a political figure, stop going back and forth mr.

veeshock:
You shot yourself at the foot already in your attempt to prove that the jews accpet islam more than christianity, you can only deceive yourself like the typical muslim, the question is who do that muslim 17% represent? Jews or palestinians? Do one need the input of jews to know the truth when history is documented?

Where did I state this? I am outlining what the demography is like and why it should be rooted in people that the Israel they claim to be the foundation of Christianity is not. The discussion will always come up when you among people who are completely diverse from the beliefs you know. I use to regard them as Christians before I was clarified that they never Christians. I think a jews input on this forum will cement that fact.

When my friends are quoting their book to cement their point, even the names I hear, makes me agree they not Christians. They have this doctrine that is just sos so different.

This is not an argument. The facts are littered online but surprising that majority dont even know. An Arabian in same environment once told me jews occults, told me I dont know them, which I really dont. Said their worship is like rituals

OgunLaakaye:
Where did I state this? I am outlining what the demography is like and why it should be rooted in people that the Israel they claim to be the foundation of Christianity is not. The discussion will always come up when you among people who are completely diverse from the beliefs you know. I use to regard them as Christians before I was clarified that they never Christians. I think a jews input on this forum will cement that fact.

When my friends are quoting their book to cement their point, even the names I hear, makes me agree they not Christians. They have this doctrine that is just sos so different.

This is not an argument. The facts are littered online but surprising that majority dont even know. An Arabian in same environment once told me jews occults, told me I dont know them, which I really dont. Said their worship is like rituals

No you only outline half-truths, come out plain with the true picture, why are you running from that? Funny how everything is on same wikipedia you quote.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Israel

veeshock:
No you only outline half-truths, come out plain with the true picture, why are you running from that? Funny how everything is on same wikipedia you quote.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Israel

You should have thanked me for even taking my time to google for you. What other plain truth do you want? The internet is friendly. I can source any fact you want from verifiable source at you request.

I know its hard to convince you from a belief you have known all your life. But like I said, the internet is friendly and you can put a little effort to know more. I also once had that belief couple of years ago till I was enlightened.

OgunLaakaye:
You should have thanked me for even taking my time to google for you. What other plain truth do you want? The internet is friendly. I can source any fact you want from verifiable source at you request.

I know its hard to convince you from a belief you have known all your life. But like I said, the internet is friendly and you can put a little effort to know more. I also once had that belief couple of years ago till I was enlightened.

Sorry Im not ignorant as you and I dont indulge in self-deceit either, you have said nothing useful all day. Peace.

veeshock:
Sorry Im not ignorant as you and I dont indulge in self-deceit either, you have said nothing useful all day. Peace.

Can imagine.

Have boxed you to the wall with facts.

OgunLaakaye:
Can imagine.

Have boxed you to the wall with facts.

In your fantasy land right? Park well jare.

AntiChristian:
Matthew 21:46
New International Version
They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

New Living Translation

Some even believe he was a criminal .It's not about what some people believe of him . its about who he is what the word of God testifies of him

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The prophecy of the angel Gabriel to Priest Zechariah as well as the culmination of Prophecies about The Christ before His first coming already sealed for all time the diety of Jesus. If you still question this then your own very existence is a mere Illusion.

plavic:
What exactly is now your point? That Jesus wasn't the Christ? Now when Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, Who do people say that the Son of Man is?

14And they answered, Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

15He said to them, But who do you [yourselves] say that I am?

16Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17Then Jesus answered him, Blessed (happy, fortunate, and [d]to be envied) are you, Simon Bar-Jonah. For flesh and blood [men] have not revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in heaven.
(Matthew 16 vs 13-17)

EXACTLY! Jesus is Christ, the son of the Living God.

AntiChristian:
Matthew 21:46
New International Version
They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that ... ...

From day one Jesus's position and ministry was clear. Any other thing you are attempting to do here is pure deceit.

It is the prophethood of Mohamed that is really questionable. People claimed that Mohamed was an impostor. According to Islam it was others who told Mohamed that he was a prophet. He thought he was troubled by demons.

The Koran contradicts itself on many points. For example, according to the Koran Allah had NEVER sent a prophet to the people of Mecca and Medina UNTIL Mohamed (Q.32:3;36:2-3) YET the same Koran claims Ishmael and others they regard as prophets were previously sent by Allah to the people.

You've been sold a dummy in Islam and many of you have bought into it hook line and sinker. Islam has tied itself up in knots but many of you are blinded to these plain facts.

These are issues you should be bothered about not Jesus.

sagenaija:
From day one Jesus's position and ministry was clear. Any other thing you are attempting to do here is pure deceit.

It is the prophethood of Mohamed that is really questionable. People claimed that Mohamed was an impostor. According to Islam it was others who told Mohamed that he was a prophet. He thought he was troubled by demons.

The Koran contradicts itself on many points. For example, according to the Koran Allah had NEVER sent a prophet to the people of Mecca and Medina UNTIL Mohamed (Q.32:3;36:2-3) YET the same Koran claims Ishmael and others they regard as prophets were previously sent by Allah to the people.

You've been sold a dummy in Islam and many of you have bought into it hook line and sinker. Islam has tied itself up in knots but many of you are blinded to these plain facts.

These are issues you should be bothered about not Jesus.

Stop deflecting! Did the people believe him as a Prophet or God? He preached to multitudes! How many people he preached to know him as God.

If you can't defend this... gently exit the thread.

As for your claims on Muhammad you can create a thread for that. This is the thread for Jesus is a Prophet.

AntiChristian:
Stop deflecting! Did the people believe him as a Prophet or God? He preached to multitudes! How many people he preached to know him as God.

If you can't defend this... gently exit the thread.

As for your claims on Muhammad you can create a thread for that. This is the thread for Jesus is a Prophet.

Did you read my first sentence in my last post? Apparently you only want to see what you want to see.

I didn't know you had the right to order someone off a thread. You must think very highly of yourself.

John 1: 1 - "In the beginning [before all time] was the Word ( Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself." (AMP). That is how Jesus was introduced in that gospel.

Thomas answered Him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28 AMP - That was Thomas's declaration about Jesus.

So, you see, during Jesus's time people believed in him as more than just a prophet. The issue then is not whether he was more than a prophet. The issue is whether you are willing to accept him for who he is.

But you rather prefer a paedophile, caravan raider and war criminal than the solution for your peace.

You prefer the book which claims to have an 'original' in heaven but contains abrogated verses because Allah couldn't decided what he wanted and had to change his mind over and over again. And now you guys are confused as to which is which. And you want to push your frustrations on others.

This statement of Jesus applies to you: "..... “If [only] you had known on this day [of salvation], even you, the things which make for peace [and on which peace depends]! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
Luke 19:42 AMP

sagenaija:
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Did you read my first sentence in my last post? Apparently you only want to see what you want to see.

I didn't know you had the right to order someone off a thread. You must think very highly of yourself.

John 1: 1 - "In the beginning [before all time] was the Word ( Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself." (AMP). That is how Jesus was introduced in that gospel.

Thomas answered Him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28 AMP - That was Thomas's declaration about Jesus.

So, you see, during Jesus's time people believed in him as more than just a prophet. The issue then is not whether he was more than a prophet. The issue is whether you are willing to accept him for who he is.

But you rather prefer a paedophile, caravan raider and war criminal than the solution for your peace.

You prefer the book which claims to have an 'original' in heaven but contains abrogated verses because Allah couldn't decided what he wanted and had to change his mind over and over again. And now you guys are confused as to which is which. And you want to push your frustrations on others.

This statement of Jesus applies to you: "..... “If [only] you had known on this day [of salvation], even you, the things which make for peace [and on which peace depends]! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
Luke 19:42 AMP

John 1:1 was written by John not Jesus. And the interpretation of John 1:1 is debatable as the word you translated as God twice are not the same.

"Logos" occurs over 300 times in the New Testament but it's not translated as Jesus Christ. A few times it's capitalize and many times it's not. Isn't this shady?

You can't cajole me here. And that of Thomas calling Jesus Lord and God in John 20:28, was it God or god, Lord or lord? Was there any difference in Hebrew and Greek?

Kindly give us the equivalent translation of the words translated as God twice in John 1:1 and once in John 20:28 in Greek and Hebrew.

I will bring Bible verses where those same words were used for others not God.

AntiChristian:
Matthew 21:46
New International Version
They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

New Living Translation
They wanted to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

English Standard Version
And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.

Berean Study Bible
Although they wanted to arrest Him, they were afraid of the crowds, because the people regarded Him as a prophet.

Berean Literal Bible
And seeking to lay hold of Him, they feared the crowds, because they were holding Him as a prophet.

New American Standard Bible
When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet.

New King James Version
But when they sought to lay hands on Him, they feared the multitudes, because they took Him for a prophet.

King James Bible
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

Christian Standard Bible
Although they were looking for a way to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because the people regarded him as a prophet.

Contemporary English Version
So they looked for a way to arrest Jesus. But they were afraid to, because the people thought he was a prophet.

Good News Translation
so they tried to arrest him. But they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Although they were looking for a way to arrest Him, they feared the crowds, because they regarded Him as a prophet.

International Standard Version
Although they wanted to arrest him, they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

NET Bible
They wanted to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowds, because the crowds regarded him as a prophet.

New Heart English Bible
When they sought to seize him, they feared the crowds, because they considered him to be a prophet.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they sought to seize him and they were afraid of the crowds, because they were holding him as a Prophet.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
They wanted to arrest him but were afraid of the crowds, who thought he was a prophet.

New American Standard 1977
And when they sought to seize Him, they feared the multitudes, because they held Him to be a prophet.

King James 2000 Bible
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

American King James Version
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

American Standard Version
And when they sought to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, because they took him for a prophet.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And seeking to lay hands on him, they feared the multitudes: because they held him as a prophet.

Darby Bible Translation
And seeking to lay hold of him, they were afraid of the crowds, because they held him for a prophet.

English Revised Version
And when they sought to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, because they took him for a prophet.

Webster's Bible Translation
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

Weymouth New Testament
but though they were eager to lay hands upon Him, they were afraid of the people, for by them He was regarded as a Prophet.

World English Bible
When they sought to seize him, they feared the multitudes, because they considered him to be a prophet.

Young's Literal Translation
and seeking to lay hold on him, they feared the multitudes, seeing they were holding him as a prophet.

CORRECT!

OgunLaakaye:
And to top it, the epicenter they worship called Israel which is dominated by Jews do not even believe he is the Messiah. The believe the messiah is yet to com
Furthermore, Same Israel they claim to be their epicenter as less than 3% Christians and 17% Muslims.

People need to be orientated.

If you add Palestine it will 40% Muslims, Christianity is insignificant in Israel it is considered idolatry