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Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:29am On Jun 01, 2020
noegenesis:
If u care to understand, notice "fools" as seems to be mentioned by Jesus often refers to religious leaders? Jesus never spoke English... this is translational ambiguity. He, in Aramaic (language of first version of bible)was actually referring to over comptemted people - then religious leaders.

"You that say "you fool" " means "you that is contempt..." asper knowledge. (To me, it's a smart way of drawing their attention)

See footnote of NIV bible. That part of the verse is labelled (c) and explained at the footnote.

Jesus as a man worked very hard. His accomplishments as a man is second to non- He synthesized knowledge. His "follwership" was and still is amazing... even till today, ppl still die 4 him. People give in everything for him! If not 4 anything respect him for that.

You can criticize anyone... even God, but try and study your object of criticism well before you criticize. Otherwise I will be tempted to call you a fool.
Since Jesus called Peter Satan. I can conveniently call you Satan too right?

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

What type of perfect role model is this to follow? He went around insulting people while he preached, while at the same time he told his followers to show love to their enemies? He even went so far as calling one of his disciples "Satan"!! Why couldn't Jesus be more patient and hold his tongue?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:32am On Jun 01, 2020
femi4:
Exactly what is going to happen to you. You are the today's fig tree, your comments bear no fruits. Curses and death awaits you on the last day if you don't repent
Is this what the Holy Spirit reveal to you or your own thoughts? Can you even differentiate between the two?

Anyway, Jesus was hungry and the hunger lead to the curse! I am not Hungry so don't interpret nonsense!
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:37am On Jun 01, 2020
ume1000:
the tree was not productive

It was wasting the nutrients of the soil for a long time

Just like our politicians (the fig tree), instead of doing the right thing(fuster development and bear fruits ) they choose the direct opposite while wasting the limited resources (nutrients in the fight tree case and our revenue in Nigeria's case)

So what would you have the farmer (God )do to the unproductive fig tree (greedy leaders)
Note "they intentionally decided to be unproductive "

Bless or curse them
See another interpretation! Why are u all giving different meaning to this Fig tree curse saga caused by Jesus' hunger?
Bless them! Aint the Lord good all the time anymore?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:53am On Jun 01, 2020
Kay25:
Did he curse any man?
I don't think so!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Do you?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:54am On Jun 01, 2020
paix:
Did your mother use, or does she still use firewood to cook? What advice did you give to her?
Sorry, we now use gas!
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 10:02am On Jun 01, 2020
fortran12:
All things were created by him. So your opinion does not matter. Did the tree complain? Or whn did you become an activist. How many trees have you planted since birth?
If i own something i do it as i wish. When you create your own trees do them as you wish
Your Lord was hungry! Sorry Jesus was hungry so he cursed....
So you mean Jesus created the tree that was fruitless yet he didn't remember the tree he created was fruitless till he cursed it.
He forgot he would be hungry and that the tree would in future satisfy his cravings! Why didn't he created it fruitful? Why didn't he bless it to produce?

It doesn't add up! Please think!
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 10:14am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Your Lord was hungry! Sorry Jesus was hungry so he cursed....
So you mean Jesus created the tree that was fruitless yet he didn't remember the tree he created was fruitless till he cursed it.
He forgot he would be hungry and that the tree would in future satisfy his cravings! Why didn't he created it fruitful? Why didn't he bless it to produce?

It doesn't add up! Please think!
Please think too, he did as he pleased, when you create your own, do as you please, No one tells you how to spend your own money. I hope my analogy is good enough
Re: What Is Sin? by femi4: 10:21am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Is this what the Holy Spirit reveal to you or your own thoughts? Can you even differentiate between the two?

Anyway, Jesus was hungry and the hunger lead to the curse! I am not Hungry so don't interpret nonsense!
That's the interpretation of what Jesus did to the fig tree warning people like you that lack understanding of parables and non verbal communication

Yes, Jesus is still hungry for your good deeds, a failure of which you ll end up like that fig tree
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 10:44am On Jun 01, 2020
femi4:
That's the interpretation of what Jesus did to the fig tree warning people like you that lack understanding of parables and non verbal communication

Yes, Jesus is still hungry for your good deeds, a failure of which you ll end up like that fig tree
But didn't Jesus create the tree in the first place? Why did he forgot the tree he created was non-productive?
Kindly ask the Holy spirit was went wrong with the fig tree? Can Jesus cure the tree to produce fruit? Why didn't he?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 10:51am On Jun 01, 2020
fortran12:
Please think too, he did as he pleased, when you create your own, do as you please, No one tells you how to spend your own money. I hope my analogy is good enough
Not good nor sound!
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 11:07am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Not good nor sound!
Lol. Prove me wrong with logic as i did
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 11:11am On Jun 01, 2020
fortran12:
Lol. Prove me wrong with logic as i did
You claimed Jesus created the tree.

1. Did he create the tree to be fruitful?

2. Did the tree disobey him?

3. Did he forget he created the tree and it was not fruitful?

This is logic.
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 11:19am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
You claimed Jesus created the tree.

1. Did he create the tree to be fruitful?

2. Did the tree disobey him?

3. Did he forget he created the tree and it was not fruitful?

This is logic.
Its also logic that he created the tree. Its his tree and he has the right to do as he wills. First answer this question can i tell you how to spend your money?
If yes then you can questions Jesus authority over the tree he created.
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 11:42am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
I don't think so!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Do you?
is that a curse?if you behave foolishly and I say you are foolish is that a curse?will that leads to your death?
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 11:44am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
I don't think so!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Do you?
oh antichrist you are ..hahaha haha Jesus still loves you take it or leave it
Re: What Is Sin? by paix(m): 11:56am On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Sorry, we now use gas!
Before now, what were you using?
Re: What Is Sin? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
You claimed Jesus created the tree.

1. Did he create the tree to be fruitful?

2. Did the tree disobey him?

3. Did he forget he created the tree and it was not fruitful?

This is logic.
The Logic of the tree is more emphasized this way:
The tree is humanbeing God have given the freewill to bear good fruit yet it decided to remain fruitless,so therefore whosoever beareth not good fruit will be cursed and it will wither away because it never achieve its purpose ofcreation.
That curses and withering written in the Bibles signifies that God will hand over the unfruitful over to Reprobate mind.Then it becomes useless as a withered tree.
Re: What Is Sin? by femi4: 1:13pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
But didn't Jesus create the tree in the first place? Why did he forgot the tree he created was non-productive?
Kindly ask the Holy spirit was went wrong with the fig tree? Can Jesus cure the tree to produce fruit? Why didn't he?
The fig tree was created by God, God hides nothing from his Son. He knows the capabilities of the fig tree. Everything needed for the fig tree to blossom was provided. You ve heard about Jesus Christ and everything he represents, you have no excuse for not bearing fruits. Everything needed for you to change your ways has been provided. On that day, just like the fig tree .....it will be curse and death hanging on your head if you don't repent now
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:33pm On Jun 01, 2020
femi4:
The fig tree was created by God, God hides nothing from his Son. He knows the capabilities of the fig tree. Everything needed for the fig tree to blossom was provided. You ve heard about Jesus Christ and everything he represents, you have no excuse for not bearing fruits. Everything needed for you to change your ways has been provided. On that day, just like the fig tree .....it will be curse and death hanging on your head if you don't repent now
Which verse of the Bible states that everything needed for the fig tree to blossom was provided?

And Jesus was definitely not aware.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:41pm On Jun 01, 2020
PRE4:
The Logic of the tree is more emphasized this way:
The tree is humanbeing God have given the freewill to bear good fruit yet it decided to remain fruitless,so therefore whosoever beareth not good fruit will be cursed and it will wither away because it never achieve its purpose ofcreation.
That curses and withering written in the Bibles signifies that God will hand over the unfruitful over to Reprobate mind.Then it becomes useless as a withered tree.
I disagree. Jesus was hungry in real time and he cursed the tree. It is not figurative.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:44pm On Jun 01, 2020
paix:
Before now, what were you using?
We use DPK. grin
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:45pm On Jun 01, 2020
Kay25:
oh antichrist you are ..hahaha haha Jesus still loves you take it or leave it
Where and when did he tell you that?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:48pm On Jun 01, 2020
Kay25:
is that a curse?if you behave foolishly and I say you are foolish is that a curse?will that leads to your death?
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Hell Ke?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 4:08pm On Jun 01, 2020
fortran12:
Its also logic that he created the tree. Its his tree and he has the right to do as he wills. First answer this question can i tell you how to spend your money?
If yes then you can questions Jesus authority over the tree he created.
Trying to avoid the questions you can't answer is illogical.
Re: What Is Sin? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
I disagree. Jesus was hungry in real time and he cursed the tree. It is not figurative.
Can God be hungry?No
Though it happened non figuratively like you said but Jesus wanted to put up a fact at that point not that he was hungry.If he was hungry,he can turn stones to food rather than going to the tree.The person who turned water into wine is able to make food appear if he was hungry.
Re: What Is Sin? by femi4:
AntiChristian:
Which verse of the Bible states that everything needed for the fig tree to blossom was provided?

And Jesus was definitely not aware.
Is there anything at all that Jesus is not aware of?


◄ Mark 11:13 ►
And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves.

A suffering fig tree won't have leaves or have its leaves withered

Below is a similar parable

He spoke also of this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

— Luke 13:6–9
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 5:09pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Trying to avoid the questions you can't answer is illogical.
Lol. No where to run.its not your place to tell him how to treat his property
Re: What Is Sin? by paix(m): 5:28pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
We use DPK. grin
What's DPK? What kind of wood is that?
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 5:29pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Hell Ke?
you don't even know what a curse is..You think a curse is the epe or abuse in yoruba?
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 5:30pm On Jun 01, 2020
AntiChristian:
Where and when did he tell you that?
John 3 vs 16 ni
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 8:58am On Jun 02, 2020
paix:
What's DPK? What kind of wood is that?
Dual Purpose Kerosene! grin
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