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Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 3:37pm On Jun 01, 2020
Exmilitant:
You know the story surrounding his birth and death?

https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Misconceptions_about_Buddhism

16. The Buddha is God or one of the gods.

The Buddha was as mortal as any of us and got sick and died too. He attained enlightenment and Nibbana but was born a human in 563 BC in his final life. He was not a Son of God either, as found in Greek mythologie
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 3:38pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:
No time for that fool above. Anyone with a working brain knows Buddhists pray in Buddha's name and treat him as a god.

Funny how a so-called "smart" person only reads stuff on select websites online and fails to note the real life practices of Buddhism as opposed to say to what some adherents of the religion say online.

The simple fact in religion is, when you pray in a person's name, you're treating that person as a god.

But some atheist on Nairaland feels all Buddhists around the world are atheists like him. Lols.

Yeah run away you dumbass.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Yeah run away you dumbass.

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

I thought ATHEISTS do reason alike!

So there is no exemptions, what's good for the Goose is OK for the Ganda.

Interesting! cheesy
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 3:54pm On Jun 01, 2020
Maximus69:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

I thought ATHEISTS do reason alike!

So there is no exemptions, what's good for the Goose is OK for the Ganda.

Interesting! cheesy

gensteejay is not an atheist.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Yeah run away you dumbass.
You're only exposing your ignorance.

"Buddhism is often referred to as a non-theistic religion." That's from the site you gave above.

In case, you assume Buddhism is completely atheistic.

Even though you're not facing the reality, Buddhists have different sects and with different beliefs, which you can't merely summarize on a website (like the one you have above).

According to this excerpt, some sects of Bhuddism in India worship Buddha as a god: "It seems ironic that a man whose career was largely based on believing and teaching the oneness of mankind and the equality among people, ended up being worshipped and elevated to the status of a god by some of his followers.

"As strange as this may sound, this is what happened in some Buddhist circles, particularly in India. The Buddha, originally considered a human being (wise and extraordinary, but only a man), gradually entered into the pantheon of the Hindu gods and came to be regarded as one of the many manifestations of the god Vishnu.

"A man of tolerance, intelligence, compassion, peace, what harm could it do to worship him as a deity? His followers perhaps thought that by making him a god the Buddha would become more special, his image more powerful and unique. However, in a tradition like in India, filled with endless gods and goddesses everywhere, to make him a god was also to make him ordinary, just one more god among thousands. Moreover, his image became to coexist with myth, ritual and superstition that corrupted his original message.

"Eventually, the Buddha was swallowed up by the realm of Hindu gods, his importance diminished and Buddhism finally died out in the land where it was born."

https://www.ancient.eu/Siddhartha_Gautama/

Whether you see the reality or not, the fact remains many Buddhists regard Buddah as a god.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 4:16pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:

You're only exposing your ignorance.

"Buddhism is often referred to as a non-theistic religion." That's from the site you gave above.

In case, you assume Buddhism is completely atheistic.

Even though you're not facing the reality, Buddhists have different sects and with different beliefs, which you can't merely summarize on a website (like the one you have above).

According to this excerpt, some sects of Bhuddism in India worship Buddha as a god: "It seems ironic that a man whose career was largely based on believing and teaching the oneness of mankind and the equality among people, ended up being worshipped and elevated to the status of a god by some of his followers.

"As strange as this may sound, this is what happened in some Buddhist circles, particularly in India. The Buddha, originally considered a human being (wise and extraordinary, but only a man), gradually entered into the pantheon of the Hindu gods and came to be regarded as one of the many manifestations of the god Vishnu.

"A man of tolerance, intelligence, compassion, peace, what harm could it do to worship him as a deity? His followers perhaps thought that by making him a god the Buddha would become more special, his image more powerful and unique. However, in a tradition like in India, filled with endless gods and goddesses everywhere, to make him a god was also to make him ordinary, just one more god among thousands. Moreover, his image became to coexist with myth, ritual and superstition that corrupted his original message.

"Eventually, the Buddha was swallowed up by the realm of Hindu gods, his importance diminished and Buddhism finally died out in the land where it was born."

https://www.ancient.eu/Siddhartha_Gautama/

Whether you see the reality or not, the fact remains many Buddhists regard Buddah as a god.


More strawman arguments. Did I say Buddhists are entirely atheist? You just construct nonsense in your head and believe it.

The people today who consider Buddha a god are not Buddhists but Hindus but you'll not adhere to facts only your preconceived notions.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


More strawman arguments. Did I say Buddhists are entirely atheist? You just construct nonsense in your head and believe it.

The people today who consider Buddha a god are not Buddhists but Hindus but you'll not adhere to facts only your preconceived notions.
You obviously know Buddhism more than the Buddhists in the founding land of the religion, India.

"As strange as this may sound, this is what happened in some Buddhist circles, particularly in India." An excerpt from the site in my comment above.

Keep basking in your delusion.

You sound like some Nigerian Muslims that show by their action they know Islam more than Saudi Arabians (citizens of the birth place of the religion).
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 4:35pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:

You obviously know Buddhism more than the Buddhists in the founding land of the religion, India.

"As strange as this may sound, this is what happened in some Buddhist circles, particularly in India." An excerpt from the site in my comment above.

Keep basking in your delusion.

You sound like some Nigerian Muslims that show by their action they know Islam more than Saudi Arabians (citizens of the birth place of the religion).

Simple question do such Buddhist sects still exist in India and what are school of Buddhism do they follow?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jun 01, 2020
Oh i see! smiley
LordReed:


gensteejay is not an atheist.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by rationalhuman(m): 4:50pm On Jun 01, 2020
Yes Various Buddhist sects exists and thrive in India.
During my education days in India i had see some Buddhists Monks, I dont know about their sects though.
Buddhists from all around the world like Japan, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Combodia, Vietnam, Korea, China etc come to India for pilgrimage or religious ceremonies same, like Muslims go to Saudi Macca.

LordReed:


Simple question do such Buddhist sects still exist in India and what are school of Buddhism do they follow?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 4:52pm On Jun 01, 2020
rationalhuman:
Yes Various Buddhist sects exists and thrive in India.
During my education days in India i had see some Buddhists Monks, I dont know about their sects though.
Buddhists from all around the world like Japan, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Korea, China etc come to India for pilgrimage or religious ceremonies same, like Muslims go to Saudi Macca.



My question isn't do Buddhist sects exist in India, it is what Buddhist sect in India believes Buddha is a god and what is the name of the Buddhist school they belong to.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Simple question do such Buddhist sects still exist in India and what are school of Buddhism do they follow?
"After the death of Buddha, Buddhism was divided into two sects namely Mahayana and Hinayana.

"Mahayana Buddhism followers think that The Buddha is a God because they think that the Buddha came down to earth to help people cross the sea of life. So the Buddha can be worshipped as a God because he is eternal and comes down to earth."

https://m.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/amp/hinayana-and-mahayana-1404979112-1
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Exmilitant(m): 5:50pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Misconceptions_about_Buddhism

16. The Buddha is God or one of the gods.

The Buddha was as mortal as any of us and got sick and died too. He attained enlightenment and Nibbana but was born a human in 563 BC in his final life. He was not a Son of God either, as found in Greek mythologie
LordReed the no godist. I would have won you over had you not gone AWOL. The Buddha is considered a god case closed. Now why would you make an arguement for a god you claimed no belief in?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 5:59pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:

"After the death of Buddha, Buddhism was divided into two sects namely Mahayana and Hinayana.

"Mahayana Buddhism followers think that The Buddha is a God because they think that the Buddha came down to earth to help people cross the sea of life. So the Buddha can be worshipped as a God because he is eternal and comes down to earth."

https://m.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/amp/hinayana-and-mahayana-1404979112-1

Mahayana Buddhists believe that Buddha and bodhisattas can help intervene in others' lives and help them on their spiritual journey. However, they still do not have the status of a god.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zs6ncdm/revision/4
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 6:01pm On Jun 01, 2020
Exmilitant:
LordReed the no godist. I would have won you over had you not gone AWOL. The Buddha is considered a god case closed. Now why would you make an arguement for a god you claimed no belief in?

Are you in a dream land? I went AWOL where? Abi it was you who ran away.

What are you talking about? Argument for which god? More of your dreaming or is it a trance?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Dantedasz(m): 6:02pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:

You and the person you quoted only cling to some aspects of Bhuddism.

Maybe in your ignorance, you feel all Buddhists are atheists.

In the link you gave, different beliefs of the Buddhists are stated there, such as reincarnation (rebirth), afterlife — beliefs some atheists regard as tripe.

I clearly stated that some Buddhists (influenced by Christianity and other factors) pray in Buddha's name.

That practice shows they regard him as a god
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Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Mahayana Buddhists believe that Buddha and bodhisattas can help intervene in others' lives and help them on their spiritual journey. However, they still do not have the status of a god.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zs6ncdm/revision/4
Those are modern Buddhists with atheistic views. Not all Buddhists are atheists.

There are traditional Buddhists that worship Buddha as a god as shown in the website above.

There are actually some other references.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 6:16pm On Jun 01, 2020
gensteejay:

Those are modern Buddhists with atheistic views. Not all Buddhists are atheists.

There are traditional Buddhists that worship Buddha as a god as shown in the website above.

There are actually some other references.

Read through this thread for more insight:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/6gcibo/is_gautama_buddha_considered_a_god_in_buddhism/
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Read through this thread for more insight:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/6gcibo/is_gautama_buddha_considered_a_god_in_buddhism/
I have gone through it. The comments on the the thread still prove my point.

There are different sects and beliefs in Buddhism, and most (or many) don't consider Buddha as a god, but some do.

What you can say that I will agree with is, you don't regard him as a god as an atheist, which is a view shared by many Buddhists as well, not all of them.

Even some of the religious ones (not atheists) that don't call him a god treat him as one. Action speaks louder than voice.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Exmilitant(m): 7:04pm On Jun 01, 2020
LordReed:


Are you in a dream land? I went AWOL where? Abi it was you who ran away.

What are you talking about? Argument for which god? More of your dreaming or is it a trance?
We all agreed based on your reference that the buddha is god. I have always been around. just that i have to handle 3 things at a time.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by petra1(m): 7:08pm On Jun 01, 2020
LostAddict:


Look at this clown deceiving, oga you are a joker.

On a second thought who do you pray to, that sleeping sky daddy or some other god.

You will look for me and the sky Daddy one day.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Kobojunkie: 7:58pm On Jun 01, 2020
Righteousness89:
If your prayers are not Answered, Check yourself! You are the problem!
How do you know that it is indeed him? Or is it your assumption that in all cases, it is the one praying that is to blame?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Righteousness89(m): 8:05pm On Jun 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:
How do you know that it is indeed him? Or is it your assumption that in all cases, it is the one praying that is to blame?
YES!

GOD ALMIGHTY IS SOOO FAITHFUL!
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Kobojunkie: 8:07pm On Jun 01, 2020
Righteousness89:

YES!

GOD ALMIGHTY IS SOOO FAITHFUL!
So it is an assumption of yours that we are always to blame? undecided undecided
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Righteousness89(m): 8:09pm On Jun 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:

So it is an assumption of yours that we are always to blame? undecided undecided

It's not assumption! It's a Fact!

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Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Kobojunkie: 8:12pm On Jun 01, 2020
Righteousness89:
It's not assumption! It's a Fact!
And what do you base this on?
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Righteousness89(m): 8:15pm On Jun 01, 2020
Kobojunkie:
And what do you base this on?

I Base it on The Word of GOD and on my Personal Experience

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Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Kobojunkie: 8:18pm On Jun 01, 2020
Righteousness89:
I Base it on The Word of GOD and on my Personal Experience
OK
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jun 01, 2020
petra1:


You will look for me and the sky Daddy one day.

Don't try to be full of yourself aunty, I won't look for you or your sky daddy in this lifetime I am very sure of that.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by Nobody: 9:19am On Jun 02, 2020
Xmuslim:


Well, I chose not to belief in such a theory that is not testable. Good luck in your belief.

Can you read 1 Sam 22:11-23 and 1 Sam 23, and tell me what you understand from the passages.
Re: Why Are Prayers Not Answered? - A Challenge To Theists by LordReed(m): 9:30pm On Jun 02, 2020
Exmilitant:
We all agreed based on your reference that the buddha is god. I have always been around. just that i have to handle 3 things at a time.

You must be dreaming because I made no such agreement with you.

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