Factors that caused Muhammad to reject Christianity and start his own religion:

It is obvious from reading the Qur'an, that it is a book of human origin, being a jumbled mess of fantasy and myth. In this document, we will examine the key factors that cased Muhammad to reject Christianity and invent Islam.

#1: Muhammad learned Monotheism from Christians.
See also for more detail: Muhammad learned monotheism from Christians

The evangelism and preaching by Christians is the primary #1 cause of the rise of Islam. Arabs were "late bloomers" when it came to rejecting polytheism and adopting monotheism. While much of the world had rejected polytheism, Arabs, like late blooming adolescents finally gave up their eternal history of paganism, thanks to the direct influence of Christians.

Muslims today believe the myth that Muhammad introduced monotheism to the area around Mecca and Arabia in general. The truth is that Muhammad got tired of the Christians constantly preaching monotheism to him fellow Arabs, knowing in his heart, that they were correct in their criticism of Arab paganism. There can be little doubt that Christians, in their evangelism of the are around Mecca, charged the Arabs with paganism and polytheism. Christians criticized those worshipping 260 pagan gods at the Kabah and offered Christianity as a far superior monotheistic religion. In his heart, Muhammad knew the Christians were right and had a better religion of monotheism. But some Muslims today, are totally ignorant of the fact that monotheism was widely preached before, during and after the rise of Muhammad, by the Christians. It was a well known theology and the Arabs were familiar with it. Amazingly, today Muslims criticize as polytheists, the very one's who taught Muhammad about monotheism!

The Meccans had numerous contacts with Christians. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
Meanwhile the seed of monotheism had been sown all along the Arabian Peninsula. , The time was ripe for a religious revival. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)

Muhammad was only one of several preachers of monotheism in the Arabia of his day. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)
"the religious situation of Arabia, and particularly of Mecca, as it was at the end of the sixth century, there must have been many serious-minded men who were aware of a vacuum and eager to find something to satisfy their deepest needs." (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)

In brief, in the sixth century after Christ, the majority of the people of Arabia were still pagans, but monotheism was spreading steadily. The time was ripe for the Arabs to abandon their superstitions in favour of a more spiritual and monotheistic conception of God. (The Life and Times of Muhammad, John Bagot Glubb, 1970)


#2: The Roman Catholic adoration, praying to Mary and calling her the "Mother of God".

The false doctrine of the Roman Catholic church, which started in 606 AD, drove Muhammad away from Christianity. It is well known by anyone who has read the Bible that praying to Mary, adoration of Mary, the assumption of Mary into heaven, the perpetual virginity of Mary are not found in the Bible. Perhaps calling Mary "mother of God" was the single most repulsive and confusing thing Muhammad saw in what he thought was true Christianity. Muhammad evidently thought that the trinity consisted of the Father, the Son and Mary. Koran 5:116, represents Christians as worshipping Mary as the third member of the Trinity, when in fact the only ones worshiping Mary, based upon the record of history, were the pagan Arabs who worship her idol in the Kaba. But the confusion started with the Roman Catholic church who, although they didn't worship Mary at that time (they do today), they went around calling her "mother of God". Historically, no one before 300 AD ever referred to Mary as the "Mother of God".

"The passage of the Qur'an which suggests that the Trinity consists of Father, Son, and Virgin Mary is doubtless a criticism of some nominally Christian Arabs who held this view." (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)

The strictness of Mohammed's monotheistic attitude became increasingly severe. He went much farther than Eastern Christianity, whose Christolatry and Mariolatry he regarded as idolatry. Not even Judaism withstood the test of his monotheistic zeal. He regarded the Jewish reverence for Ezra as on the same level as the Christian adoration of Jesus (9, 30). (Mohammed: The man and his faith, Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30)


[b]#3: The False Nestorian view of Christ having a split personality[/b]

Nestorius died around 451 and is the father of Nestorianism. This false doctrine teaches that Christ was two separate persons, one divine and one human. The Bible teaches Jesus Christ was one person with two natures. The United Pentecostal Church International, for example, teaches that when Jesus prayed, he was praying to himself. This assaults the common sense more than it contradicts the Bible! Muhammad would likewise not be impressed with a religion that not only considers Mary "the mother of God", but that Jesus is a "schizo" split personality that goes around talking to himself. Between the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic church and the outrageous heresy of the banished Nestorians who were driven from civilization into Arabia, not much wonder Muhammad what he thought was Christianity! The devil always uses false doctrine to turn people away from the truth!

"the Eastern [Nestorian] Christians believe in one God with three attributes, instead of three persons." (George M. Lamsa, The Short Koran, p15)
Although most of the Arab tribes of the Syrian desert became nominal Christians, however, their new religion seems to have been little more than skin deep. It was doubtless difficult for a people who held such strong views on the honourable duty of revenge to absorb the spirit of a religion which commanded them to love their enemies and to turn the other cheek to aggressors. Unfortunately, in 420, a monk called Nestorius preached a new interpretation of the Incarnation, which was condemned as heretical by the Council of Ephesus in 431. As a result, the Nestorian Christians migrated in considerable numbers to Persia, where they established themselves chiefly in the Euphrates valley as far south as the head of the Persian Gulf. (The Life and Times of Muhammad, John Bagot Glubb, 1970)

Under the dominion of Byzantium they achieved power and wealth in the role of a 'buffer state' and adopted the Christianity of their rulers. In A.D. 195, another branch, the lakhmids, established the kingdom of Hira near the ruins of ancient Babylonia. While serving as a 'buffer' for Persia, many of its people remained pagan under the non-proselytizing policy of Persian Zoroastrianism.' Nevertheless some important elements among the Lakhmids became Nestorian Christians. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)

The influence of Christianity was brought to bear upon Arabia both from Syria in the northwest and from Mesopotamia in the northeast. In the sixth century A.D. the Arabic kingdoms of the Ghassanids in Syria and the Lakhmids in Mesopotamia were allied respectively with the Byzantine and the Persian empires and were strong centers respectively of Monophysite and of Nestorian Christianity. From these regions and in this time if not also earlier, Christian ideas spread on into the farther reaches of Arabia. A careful study of the relevant data particularly in the Qur'an shows that Muhammad had a very considerable store of knowledge of Judaism and Christianity, and that it was of the sort which he would have been most likely to obtain through oral channels and personal observation over a long period of time. He was specially impressed, it seems, with the fact that both the Jews and the Christians were People of a Book, and it was his desire likewise to provide his own people with a Book which would be to them what the Torah was to the Jews and the Bible to the Christians. (The Archeology Of World Religions, Jack Finegan, 1952, p482-485, 492)


#4: Nationalistic Arab pride

Historically, in 600 AD, the Arabs had felt like the little guys and underdogs in the world arena. For Muhammad to realize that his own pagan and polytheistic Arab culture offered nothing towards truth in religion, must have been a difficult and humiliating thing. So the "converted to monotheism" Muhammad had a choice. He could implement monotheism by going around telling his native pagan Arabs that everything they have been doing for 2500 years is vain, false and condemned. Or he could implement monotheism by telling his pagan Arabs that all of their pagan ritual (the Hajj or pilgrimage) was good, but they had to give up all their pagan gods for one God, Allah. Think about just how much more effective you could be in this second approach. Then think about how poorly the truth that all of pagan religious culture had to be thrown out and adopt the Christianity of the "big boys" in Rome. Too bad Muhammad allowed all the pagan practices of the Arabs to be adopted wholly into Islam because he was too proud to admit the non-Arab nations held the key to religious truth! This problem exists even today.

The remarkable expansion of Islam, especially in the Far East and tropical Africa, long after its initial political and military impetus had exhausted itself, was in no small measure due to the ease with which it absorbed local cults and then directed them towards the broader social and cosmological purpose of the monotheistic vision. (Islam in the World, Malise Ruthven, 1984, p 28-48)


#5: Rejection by the Jews:

One of the most obvious proofs that Muhammad was no prophet and Islam is an invented religion, is the fact that Muhammad prayed towards Jerusalem 5 times a day for many years at the beginning of his "call". But the Jews wanted nothing to do with his myths and inventions and Muhammad was ostracized from Jerusalem. Only then did ambitious Muhammad, start looking for another place to direct his prayers. A rejected wanderer always longs for home, hence Muhammad set his eyes, for the first time, on Mecca. Had the Jews not rejected him, Jerusalem would have been the most holy place on earth for Muslims to circle meteorites 7 times, once in their life, and not Mecca. This is quite clear. Had Muhammad any prophetic call, he never would have prayed to Jerusalem as long as he did. In fact, if Muhammad was a prophet, God would have immediately told him to pray towards Mecca. There is no known explanation that can salvage or explain away this most damaging fact of Muhammads lack of prophethood by praying towards Jerusalem.

At the commencement of Muhammad's mission, It is remarkable that there is scarcely an allusion to the Ka'bah, and this fact, taken with the circumstance that the earliest Qiblah or direction for prayer, was Jerusalem, and not the Ka'bah, seems to imply that Muhammad's strong iconoclastic tendencies did so incline his sympathies to this ancient idol with its Superstitious ceremonies. Had the Jews favourably received the new as one who taught the religion of Abraham, to abrogation of that of Moses and Jesus, Jerusalem and not Makkah-would have been the sacred city, and the ancient Rock and not the Ka'bah would have the object of superstitious reverence. (A Dictionary Of Islam, Thomas Patrick Hughes, 1965, Kaba, p 256)

And in this verse we find the Rock at Jerusalem spoken of as "the precinct of which We (God) have blessed, to show him (Muhammad) of our signs," proving that even then the Prophet of Arabia had his heart fixed on Mount Zion, and not on the Ka'bah. When Muhammad found himself established in al-Madinah, with a very good prospect of his obtaining possession of Makkah, and its historic associations, he seems to have withdrawn his thoughts from Jerusalem, and its Sacred Rock and to fix them on the house at Bakkah as the home founded for mankind,-. Blessed, and a guidance to all creatures. (Surah iii. 90} The Jews proving obdurate, and there being little chance of his succeeding in establishing his claim as their prophet spoken of by Moses, be changes the Qiblah, or direction for prayer, from Jerusalem to Makkah. The house at Makkah is made "a place of resort unto men and a sanctuary " (Surah ii. 119). The Qiblah is changed by an express command of the Almighty, and the whole passage is remarkable as exhibiting a decided concession on the part of Muhammad to the claims of the Ka'bah as a central object of adoration. (A Dictionary Of Islam, Thomas Patrick Hughes, 1965, Kaba, p 256)

The Meccan revelations tell us nothing about these relations during this important period in the life of the Prophet. In any case he felt no enthusiasm for the Meccan sanctuary. During the first period after the Hidjra Muhammad was busy with very different problems. But when the expected good relations with Judaism and the Jews did not come about, a change set in. Henceforth - about a year and a half after the Hidjra - the Ka'ba and the Hadjdj are mentioned in the revelations. The change of attitude was first shown in the kibla edict: the faithful were no longer to turn towards Jerusalem in the salat but to the Ka'ba. , From the dogmatic point of view this volte-face was justified by an appeal to the "religion of Abraham", which was specially invented for the occasion (Sura ii. 129, iii, 89 etc.), as Snouck Hurgronje has shown in his Mekkaansche Feest. (First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 587-591)

This legendary story of the origin of the Ka'ba was easily brought into conformity with the cosmological views current among Christians and Jews in the East, the central point of which was the sanctuary itself. Muslim tradition at first adopted this cosmology completely, as is evident from the statements which are still wholly under the influence of the predominance of Jerusalem. They were however not content with this and transferred a considerable part of these sayings to Mecca. (First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 587-591)


#6: Muhammad adopted the pagan "religion of his parents" Muhammad's grandfather was the guardian of the Kabah.

The influence of the religion of Muhammad's parents, is the second most important factor in the rise of Islam. It is well documented that people rarely drift far from the religion of their parents. Contrary to Muslim myth, Muhammad's family into which he was born, were pagan, and Muhammad himself worshipped all the idols at the Kabah. Islam, however retained almost all the pagan ritual associated with his father's pagan religion, but with a new monotheistic twist. So Muhammad, after wandering around trying to start his religion outside of Arabia, decided to make his home town the center of the planet.

Muslim tradition insists that he had no dealing with the pagan cults of his native city. This seems unlikely, and there are clear indications in his later life to suggest that, like everyone else, he practised the religion of his fathers. We are told elsewhere that he sacrificed a sheep to the goddess al- 'Uzza. One little-known tradition has him offering meat which had been sacrificed to idols to a monotheist, who refused it and rebuked him. He is said to have belonged to the hums, a brotherhood which practised its own special rites at Meccan ceremonies and observed additional taboos. (Mohammed, Maxime Rodinson, 1961, translated by Anne Carter, 1971, p 38-49)

The grandfather of Muhammad, 'Abdu 'l-Muttalib, the son of Hashim, became the custodian of the Sacred House; and during his time, the Ka'bah being considered too low in its structure, the Quraish wished to raise it; so they demolished it and then they rebuilt till the work reached the place of the black stone. Each tribe wishing to have the honour of raising the black stone into its place, they quarreled amongst themselves. But they at last agreed that the first man who should enter the gate of the enclosure should be umpire Muhammad was the first to enter, and be was appointed umpire. He thereupon ordered them to place the stone upon a cloth and each tribe by its representative to take hold of the cloth and lift it into its place. The dispute was thus ended, and when the stone had reached its proper place, Muhammad fixed it is its situation with his own hand. (A Dictionary Of Islam, Thomas Patrick Hughes, 1965, Kaba, p 256)

The old Arabian paganism was at that time in a process of disintegration, but Judaism and Christianity were widely represented in the peninsula, and to a lesser extent Zoro-astrianism and certain Gnostic sects. Several preachers of monotheism had arisen and each had gained a following, but it was Muhammad who succeeded in syncretizing certain basic elements of Judaeo-Christian faith and practice with native Arabian beliefs and, by his own burning faith in his mission and indomitable courage in carrying out that mission, initiated what has become one of the world religions of our day. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p xi-xiv)



#7: Economic: Money, Money, Money

Now don't get me wrong, Muhammad sincerely believed in his religion. But we must not overlook the key role Islam played in lining the pockets of the Meccans with lots of cash. Muhammad sure was a good businessman for he guaranteed forever, that those in charge of the Kabah would always be rich and that that the city of Mecca would always be a world tourist attraction that made the local residents rich.

The Islamic tradition furnishes several clues about the possible anthro-pological origins of the Ka'ba. Like several other shrines in Arabia, it was part of a haram, or sacred area, where intertribal fighting was forbidden in order to facilitate trade. (Islam in the World, Malise Ruthven, 1984, p 28-48)
The development of Mecca as a commercial centre was partly due to its geographical position about the middle of the caravan route up the west coast of Arabia from the Yemen, and at the beginning of a route to Iraq. It was also facilitated by the existence of the sanctuary, since in the sacred territory blood feuds were in abeyance and there was therefore some security for men to come together at trade fairs. Certain months were also regarded as sacred, and it was during these that the fairs took place. One verse indicates the dependence of Meccan prosperity on the sanctuary: "Have we not established for them a sanctuary secure to which the fruits of everything are brought, as a provision from us?" (28.57) (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-53)

The American scholar C. C. Torrey made a careful study of all the commercial metaphors used in the Qur'an, and came to the conclusion that in some cases they were not used incidentally or by way of illustration, but expressed some of the central theological teaching of the Qur'an. [The Commercial-Theological Terms in the Koran, Leiden 1892. Tor Andrae, Mohammed, 86, suggests that the theological terms are borrowed from Syrian Christianity; but even if some conceptions came from this source, the appropriateness to the thinking of the Meccan merchants was also an important factor.] This is precisely what we should expect in a commercial centre. The points made by Torrey have been well summarized: "The number of commercial terms transferred to the religious sphere is noteworthy , The deeds of men are recorded in a book; the judgement is the reckoning; each person receives his account; the balance is set up and men's deeds are weighed; each soul is held in pledge for the deeds committed; if a man's actions are approved, he receives his reward, or his hire; to support the Prophet's cause is to lend to (God)." [Bell, Introduction, 79; Watt, Bell's Introduction, 4.] (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-53)

What seems to be clear is that the bedouin came into the towns to worship at the fixed shrines of the gods there. The incentive may have been principally commercial-fairs are a consistent feature of such urban shrines-and there was undoubtedly conscious policy at work: the movement of the effigy of a popular god into a town shrine meant that its worshipers would eventually follow, if certain conditions could be guaranteed. The chief of those was security. Bedouin were ill at ease in very close quarters: a vividly remembered network of tribal vendettas and blood feuds incurred from earlier collisions on the steppe made any tribal encounter potentially dangerous. The solution was the usual one of the "truce of God," sacred months when hands and weapons were restrained by divine injunction. Under such security, tribes came together, worshipped, and traded, and then returned to their more normal ways. Sacred shrine, sacred truce, worship, and trade is a combination with a venerable history. Small wonder, since it worked to everyone's advantage, and not least to that of the guardians of the shrine-the Quraysh at Mecca, for example. (The Hajj, F. E. Peters, p 3-41, 1994)
For in that fractious world of Arabian tribalism, where warlike energies were fruitlessly dissipated in internecine strife, the new solidarity brought by the Prophet and welded into a universal brotherhood at 'Arafat was the prelude to the jihad, or holy war. (Islam in the World, Malise Ruthven, 1984, p 28-48)


http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-causes.htm

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now we can see who cannot do alone with his own religion and mind his business without attacking the other's religion.

but i promise you,just be ready "frosbel" you and your likes.you will run mad in this forum.

unsuprisingly,there is a big suprising joke in the article you copied:"Muhammad learned monotheism from Christian"!!!that is a big joke!!!amazing!

as in if the writer of the article might have speculated and alleged that Muhammad (sa) learned monotheism from the jews,that is worth wasting your time to read about.but claiming that Muhammad (sa) learned monotheism from pagan christian trinitarians? that is the joke of the century.it is not even worth reading the article after seeing that funny joke of a statement.

note:the word "trinity" is not found in the bible at all.but it is mentioned in the Quran.the Quran states:

Holy Quran 5:73
"They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is a Trinity". And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment".


so how on earth,can pagan trinitarians teach monotheism?

LagosShia:

speculations!speculations!!speculations!!!

reinvention of history!

reinvention of history!!

reinvention of history!!!

fabrications!fabrications!!fabrications!!!

now we can see who cannot do alone with his own religion and mind his business without attacking the other's religion.

but i promise you,just be ready "frosbel" you and your likes.you will run mad in this forum.

unsuprisingly,there is a big suprising joke in the article you copied:"Muhammad learned monotheism from Christian"!!!that is a big joke!!!amazing!

as in if the writer of the article might have speculated and alleged that Muhammad (sa) learned monotheism from the jews,that is worth wasting your time to read about.but claiming that Muhammad (sa) learned monotheism from christian trinitarians? that is the joke of the century.it is not even worth reading the article after seeing that funny joke of a statement.

LagosShia my Lagos Bro, please entertain me more

I dont think mohammed was ever a christian- i'm not aware of any records anywhere that support that view.

His wife's cousin was christian no doubt, and this was the same person who first proclaimed him a prophet after he started having visions.

However, i'm under the impression its very possible the arab christians (or arab jews) of that time were constantly on the lookout for people who they felt might fill the requirements of "prophets". A key tenet of jewish theology is the waiting for or expecting the messiah. For christians, the messiah already came and what they're waiting for isnt a physical messiah per se.

So i would think mohammed had a lot of interaction with arab jews than he did with christians, at least initially.

Although one cant also discount his treaties and friendships with the christian ethiopian kingdom/s later on in life.

Just my opinion- i havent really studied the matter in depth.

shut up frosbel. everyone knows that your christianity has done absolutely no good, except bring religious wars, colonialism, slavery, mass-destruction, rejection of science, wiping out of indigneous peoples and their culture, disease, slavery, white-supremacy, ra.pe, loot, spread of guilty feelings and misery.

PAGAN 9JA:

shut up frosbel. everyone knows that your christianity has done absolutely no good, except bring religious wars, colonialism, slavery, mass-destruction, rejection of science, wiping out of indigneous peoples and their culture, disease, slavery, white-supremacy, ra.pe, loot, spread of guilty feelings and misery.

Okay my pagan pal.

frosbel:

Okay my pagan pal.

wow that was easy. i was expecting some kind of argument.

so when are you returning tothe way of the Gods

LagosShia:

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this seems to have shaken you to the core. You seem surprised, shocked and pained. Gradually dawning on your that islam is a fraud? You wait for more . . .

Did mohammad plagiarize much of what is islam today from judaism and sabean culture? You bet.

davidylan:

this seems to have shaken you to the core. You seem surprised, shocked and pained. Gradually dawning on your that islam is a fraud? You wait for more . . .

Did mohammad plagiarize much of what is islam today from judaism and sabean culture? You bet.

"The Fraud Of Christianity-What Is "Pious Fraud"?!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html

"Proof Of Plagiarism In The Christian New Testament From The Jewish Old Testament"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820199.0.html

"Half Of The New Testament Was Forged" - Bible Scholar
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-687029.0.html

LagosShia:

"The Fraud Of Christianity-What Is "Pious Fraud"?!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html

"Proof Of Plagiarism In The Christian New Testament From The Jewish Old Testament"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820199.0.html

"Half Of The New Testament Was Forged" - Bible Scholar
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-687029.0.html

Surely by now you should have had the common sense to know that nobody ever refers to your links.

Let us discuss it here, stop running away 

frosbel:


Surely by now you should have had the common sense to know that nobody ever refers to your links.

Let us discuss it here, stop running away

a piece of christian missionary $hit like yourself thinks he speaks for everyone.

i am not stopping your hands from typing,am i? so go ahead and discuss it here.and you'd be served right!

Frosbel, Davidlyan and AloyEmeka are just jesters. All historical evidence points to the Prophet living in the midst of pagans, he was illiterate so your attempt to prove he stole ideas from Christianity is just bordering on temporary insanity!

Islam is against some fundamental principles of Christianity such as the belief that man was created in God's image and of course the concept of Trinity.

Islam also rejects all forms of falsehood Jews and Christians peddle against the likes of Solomon, David and other Prophets of God (Peace be upon them).

I pity you guys because you just go about quoting people who don't know their nose from their ears and think you have something when all you hold is worthless junk.

God sent Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to show mankind during his time and after him the right path that was established for man since the days of Adam. There should be no amazement that the teachings of all the Prophets are similar because they came from the same source our creator God himself- QED.

@maclatunji
If God truly sent mohammed, how come even going by accounts of the Koran and hadiths that he was so evil and immoral? No true prophet of God would kill people recklessly in the name of God just like boko haram miscreants do today.

maclatunji:

Frosbel, Davidlyan and AloyEmeka are just jesters. All historical evidence points to the Prophet living in the midst of pagans,[b] he was illiterate [/b]so  your attempt to prove he stole ideas from Christianity is just bordering on temporary insanity!

Let us assume that he was illiterate. But we agree at least he could listen , understand and learn. By inference , Oral tradition in a mix of sorts, was what Muhammad used to orally transmit ALLAH's 'message' to his scribes to write the Koran.

Islam is against some fundamental principles of Christianity such as the belief that man was created in God's image and of course the concept of Trinity.

So Man was not created in God's image, wow !!. Whose Image was he created in then    Satan's   or may Angel Gibril  

Also Muhammad's version of the Trinity is even more confusing, it goes like this, Father , Son and Mary - lol.    This was a popular  gnostic fable told to Muhammad by Heretics and which he added to the Koran.

I have to agree with you that Muhammad was illiterate because he did not seem to carry out any personal research or study of his own, he simply threw in a mixture of fables, myth, fairy tales and gnostic past time stories.

Islam also rejects all forms of falsehood Jews and Christians peddle against the likes of Solomon, David and other Prophets of God (Peace be upon them).

Solomon and David were firstly Kings not prophets.

Seems like every major character in the Bible is a prophet to Muslims. Muhammad sure liked to copy from the Bible

God sent Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to show mankind during his time and after him the right path that was  established for man since the days of Adam. There should be no amazement that the teachings of all the Prophets are similar because they came from the same source our creator God himself- QED.

And this right path included butchering and torturing his enemies, marrying a 6 year old plus 12 other wives including that of his adopted son, lying, robbing etc  

How dare you compare such a man to Christ, how dare you compare this wicked man to the saviour of mankind.

Pride is the Arab problem and by association your problem as well.

God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

As far as you stick to this madness and refuse to repent of your sins, you will surely perish in them.

May this not be so , and may God open your eyes.

^I bet you think you are being classy and knowledgeable but sheeesh! Your ignorance is beyond belief! Obviously, you are trying to condemn something you don't even have basic knowledge of. Islam and the trinity don't mix at all. Saying that there is an Islamic version of trinity is like saying you saw a flying Penguin. Sane people would know what to call you- Yes, a madman!

You are so one-dimensional that you can't understand that there can only be one God and by that definition he has to be unique and incomparable to anything you know or can think-of.

Pastor Kun:

@maclatunji
If God truly sent mohammed, how come even going by accounts of the Koran and hadiths that he was so evil and immoral? No true prophet of God would kill people recklessly in the name of God just like boko haram miscreants do today.

You see, you are just a drone regurgitating what you have been programmed with. The fact that over a billion people follow his teachings should tell you that a large number of people have the greatest respect for him and his teachings. By accounts in the Qur'an and hadiths, he is the most benevolent individual to walk the face of the planet!

Have you ever independently studied the Qur'an and hadiths from the Muslim perspective? The answer will be no! Your teachers will be the likes of Frosbel and Davidlyan who only copy stuff from places like wehateislam.com, antiIslam.com and similar sources.

By their definition those sources are flawed sources of data or information on Islam because they are biased from the onset.

There are many Christians on Nairaland who have studied Islam independently and have nothing but respect and admiration for Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and Islam.

It would do you good to study for yourself and not be a mindless parrot!

maclatunji:

^I bet you think you are being classy and knowledgeable but sheeesh! Your ignorance is beyond belief! Obviously, you are trying to condemn something you don't even have basic knowledge of. Islam and the trinity don't mix at all. Saying that there is an Islamic version of trinity is like saying you saw a flying Penguin. Sane people would know what to call you- Yes, a madman!

I must have hit a raw nerve and brought out the Muhammad in you !

Muhammad made an error of referring to the trinity as Father , Son and Mary - Fact.

Muhammad got it all wrong.

Funny enough though ,  Muhammad associated partners with ALLAH ,but sudenly renounced when he feared this could bring his newly concocted religion into disrepute.

"It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located."

You are so one-dimensional that you can't understand that there can only be one God and by that definition he has to be unique and incomparable to anything you know or can think-of.

Of course God is 1.


In summary, Muhammad is the worst ROLE Model to prescribe to mankind. He was a bad man , as simple as ABC.

ISLAM is a fraud, simple.

Pastor Kun:

@maclatunji
If God truly sent mohammed, how come even going by accounts of the Koran and hadiths that he was so evil and immoral? No true prophet of God would kill people recklessly in the name of God just like boko haram miscreants do today.

three points:

1.) according to the Quran and hadith Muhammad (sa) was of high moral standard.the Quran explicitly addresses him thus:"you are of sublime morals".so really which Quran are you referrring to ?

2.) we keep telling you that muslims should only fight in self-defense.chikena.

3.) you call yourself "pastor".dont you see how shameless that title is? you carry an evil bible with you.do you want me to state the many evils in it? if you really follow your conscience and have a sincere mind,caring for morality and human life,you ought to have denounced the bible and christianity by now before pointing an accusing finger to others.it only takes you christians a little shame:

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frosbel:

I must have hit a raw nerve and brought out the Muhammad in you !

Muhammad made an error of referring to the trinity as Father , Son and Mary - Fact.

please show us where Muhammad (sa) made an error calling your infamous pagan trinity :father,son and Mary.

Funny enough though , Muhammad associated partners with ALLAH ,but sudenly renounced when he feared this could bring his newly concocted religion into disrepute.

that is your wish and hope.

"It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located."

is "al-ilah" and "Allah" the same?please explain!

Of course God is 1.


In summary, Muhammad is the worst ROLE Model to prescribe to mankind. He was a bad man , as simple as ABC.

ISLAM is a fraud, simple.

wish,wish,wish!!!

if wishes were horses beggars would ride!!!

LagosShia:

please show us where Muhammad (sa) made an error calling your infamous pagan trinity :father,son and Mary.

that is your wish and hope.
is "al-ilah" and "Allah" the same?please explain!


wish,wish,wish!!!

if wishes were horses beggars would ride!!! 

Muhammad is a false prophet , a bad role model  and ISLAM is  a FRAUD !!   

frosbel:

Muhammad is a false prophet , a bad role model and ISLAM is a FRAUD !!

blah blah blah!

satan has really overcome you and your likes.inspite of proof and reasoning you are hell bent on making him a false prophet.but you dont apply a little effort to check if Paul was a false prophet.you accept him to be under the spell of holy ghost on his own account.

frosbel:

Muhammad is a false prophet , a bad role model  and ISLAM is  a FRAUD !!   

And that is how Frosbel got reduced to relying on name-calling and emoticons as validation for his pseudo-points.

LagosShia:

blah blah blah!

satan has really overcome you and your likes.inspite of proof and reasoning you are hell bent on making him a false prophet.but you dont apply a little effort to check if Paul was a false prophet.you accept him to be under the spell of holy ghost on his own account.

guy; you are not only walking in darkness, you are blind and your mind's eye darkened. you no your destination except you called Jesus Lord the light cannot shine.

May you see THIS LIGHT.

manmacho:

guy; you are not only walking in darkness, you are blind and your mind's eye darkened. you no your destination except you called Jesus Lord the light cannot shine.

May you see THIS LIGHT.

i guess this post should prove to you that i am not blind.i read,write and comprehend.so you are dumb!

LagosShia:

i guess this post should prove to you that i am not blind.i read,write and comprehend.so you are dumb!

He can't be more DUMB that ALLAH , that's for sure.

Na waooo. see high priests of Christianity and Islam performing a na.ked dance in the market for athiests spectators

LagosShia:

i guess this post should prove to you that i am not blind.i read,write and comprehend.so you are dumb!

am not dumb never will be.

But it would be better if u are physically blind and make heaven than to be spiritaully blind and loose in all.

you fight day and night for what u say is not true. the question is y fight so much against what is not real except of cousre you are trying to douse the truth of christainity that is hunting your conscience.

JESUS LOVES YOU. SAUL WAS WORSE

frosbel:


He can't be more DUMB that ALLAH , that's for sure.

so even you is feeling the heat!

when you insult,you only show that your religion has nothing to offer.

you forget that your pagan version of god killed his son to "forgive" you.and you see that as "love"!!!!

manmacho:

am not dumb never will be.

But it would be better if u are physically blind and make heaven than to be spiritaully blind and loose in all.

you fight day and night for what u say is not true. the question is y fight so much against what is not real except of cousre you are trying to douse the truth of christainity that is hunting your conscience.

JESUS LOVES YOU. SAUL WAS WORSE

not interested in your preaching.you christians use all available tricks from insults to "love" to bribe to win converts.business as usual!

Religion can strip people out of their sences. . Islam is one,even at the presence of fallacies and errors and contradictions in the Koran, yet they try to defend and proove it,thereby hipping more and more confusions.

I laugh at some Mohammadian comments.

voltron:

Na waooo. see high priests of Christianity and Islam performing a na.ked dance in the market for athiests spectators

More like two drunkards arguing about which wine gives the most satisfaction