₦airaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: RegisterLoginWith GoogleTrendingRecentNew

Stats: 3,326,493 members, 8,426,810 topics. Date: Sunday, 14 June 2026 at 10:49 PM

Toggle theme

What Is Sin? - Christianity Etc (6) - Nairaland

Nairaland ForumNairaland GeneralChristianity EtcWhat Is Sin? (9789 Views)

1 2 3 4 5 6 Reply (Go Down)

Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 8:59am On Jun 02, 2020
fortran12:
Lol. No where to run.its not your place to tell him how to treat his property
The Property he doesn't know the state it was. Your account is your property, won't you know the condition of your account?
Error 404!
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:00am On Jun 02, 2020
Kay25:
you don't even know what a curse is..You think a curse is the epe or abuse in yoruba?
If I tell you how will you escape being condemned to hell? Is that a compliment?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:01am On Jun 02, 2020
Kay25:
John 3 vs 16 ni
Where did Jesus say in it that he loves me?
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 9:02am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
If I tell you how will you escape being condemned to hell? Is that a compliment?
how does that make it a curse?explain
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 9:03am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
If I tell you how will you escape being condemned to hell? Is that a compliment?
it was just a bitter truth you won't agree to..u know truth cuts deep
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:14am On Jun 02, 2020
femi4:
Is there anything at all that Jesus is not aware of?
Jesus does not know the hour just as he was not aware the tree was fruitless!
Matthew 24:396 and Mark 13:32 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.


femi4:
◄ Mark 11:13 ►
And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves.

A suffering fig tree won't have leaves or have its leaves withered
Have you studied a Mango tree before? It has leaves mostly throughout the year. However it has fruits only at the right season!

Before a tree grow fruit it first grow leaves. The leaves through photosynthesis produce glucose.

6CO2 + 6H20 + (energy) → C6H12O6 + 6O2 Carbon dioxide + water + energy from light produces glucose and oxygen.

So the tree was about to start producing fruits.

femi4:
Below is a similar parable

He spoke also of this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

— Luke 13:6–9
This 2nd fig tree parable is unrelated to the fig tree story in discussion.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:25am On Jun 02, 2020
PRE4:
Can God be hungry?No
Yes he was hungry. In Mark 11:12 the Greek word used is epeinasen which means to be hungry, needy, desire earnestly. From the same as penes; to famish; figuratively, to crave.

PRE4:
Though it happened non figuratively like you said but Jesus wanted to put up a fact at that point not that he was hungry.If he was hungry,he can turn stones to food rather than going to the tree. The person who turned water into wine is able to make food appear if he was hungry.
Are you correct and the Bible is wrong? Or your are wrong and the Bible is right?

New International Version
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

New Living Translation
The next morning as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

English Standard Version
On the following day, when they came from Bethany, he was hungry.

Berean Study Bible
The next day, when they had left Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

Berean Literal Bible
And on the next day, they having gone out from Bethany, He was hungry.

New American Standard Bible
On the next day, when they had left Bethany, He became hungry.

New King James Version
Now the next day, when they had come out from Bethany, He was hungry.

King James Bible
And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:

Christian Standard Bible
The next day when they went out from Bethany, he was hungry.

Contemporary English Version
When Jesus and his disciples left Bethany the next morning, he was hungry.

Good News Translation
The next day, as they were coming back from Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The next day when they came out from Bethany, He was hungry.

International Standard Version
The next day, as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus became hungry.

NET Bible
Now the next day, as they went out from Bethany, he was hungry.

New Heart English Bible
The next day, when they had come out from Bethany, he was hungry.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And on the next day when he went out from Bethany he was hungry.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The next day, when they left Bethany, Jesus became hungry.

New American Standard 1977
And on the next day, when they had departed from Bethany, He became hungry.

King James 2000 Bible
And on the next day, when they had come from Bethany[b], he was hungry:[/b]

American King James Version
And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:

American Standard Version
And on the morrow, when they were come out from Bethany, he hungered.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the next day when they came out from Bethania, he was hungry.

Darby Bible Translation
And on the morrow, when they were gone out of Bethany, he hungered.

English Revised Version
And on the morrow, when they were come out from Bethany, he hungered.

Webster's Bible Translation
And on the morrow, when they had come from Bethany, he was hungry,

Weymouth New Testament
The next day, after they had left Bethany, He was hungry.

World English Bible
The next day, when they had come out from Bethany, he was hungry.

Young's Literal Translation
And on the morrow, they having come forth from Bethany, he hungered,
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 9:43am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
The Property he doesn't know the state it was. Your account is your property, won't you know the condition of your account?
Error 404!
what are you talking about? You have no point. Its not your business how he treats his. Mind yours he will ,mind his. Its simple logic. Dont they teach logic & critical reasoning in Nigerian schools?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:46am On Jun 02, 2020
fortran12:
what are you talking about? You have no point. Its not your business how he treats his. Mind yours he will ,mind his. Its simple logic. Dont they teach logic & critical reasoning in Nigerian schools?
grin No be fight na!

Does your Lord know the tree had no fruit when he was hungry?
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 9:48am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
grin No be fight na!

Does your Lord know the tree had no fruit when he was hungry?
i have no idea, i was not in his mind when he was in that situation
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:51am On Jun 02, 2020
fortran12:
i have no idea, i was not in his mind when he was in that situation
Ask the Holy Spirit! Abi u no get?
Re: What Is Sin? by fortran12: 10:11am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
Ask the Holy Spirit! Abi u no get?
How is that relevant to the question? He treated his property as he wills, you do same to yours. its simple very logic
Re: What Is Sin? by paix(m): 10:25am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
Dual Purpose Kerosene! grin
Thanks. Since it's DUAL purpose, what's the other purpose of the kerosene?
Re: What Is Sin? by femi4:
AntiChristian:
Jesus does not know the hour just as he was not aware the tree was fruitless!
Matthew 24:396 and Mark 13:32 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.




Have you studied a Mango tree before? It has leaves mostly throughout the year. However it has fruits only at the right season!

Before a tree grow fruit it first grow leaves. The leaves through photosynthesis produce glucose.

6CO2 + 6H20 + (energy) → C6H12O6 + 6O2 Carbon dioxide + water + energy from light produces glucose and oxygen.

So the tree was about to start producing fruits.



This 2nd fig tree parable is unrelated to the fig tree story in discussion.
Why is it unrelated, the second fig tree had second chance and he started producing fruits.

Comparing mango tree to fig tree shows your knowledge is limited anyway.


Stop twisting the scripture: Jesus not knowing the hour was referring to judgement day for humans and not fig tree


John 13:1
New International Version
It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.

John 12:49
For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 10:59am On Jun 02, 2020
AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus say in it that he loves me?
For God so love the world(are you not in the world)
Re: What Is Sin? by Nobody: 11:29am On Jun 02, 2020
[quote author=AntiChristian post=90223871]Yes he was hungry. In Mark 11:12 the Greek word used is epeinasen which means to be hungry, needy, desire earnestly. From the same as penes; to famish; figuratively, to crave.



Are you correct and the Bible is wrong? Or your are wrong and the Bible is right?

New International Version
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

New Living Translation
The next morning as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.


Yes i never argued he was never hungry.He was.But reading the Bible as per event that happened is equivalent to reading a novel.

When you read the Bible,try to understand beyond the scenario documented already.The Holy Spirit gives new meaning of a passage if you meditate on it.

In that passage,the Bible was trying to point out what happens to anybody who decides to be unfruitful and useless to God.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 1:07pm On Jun 03, 2020
[quote author=PRE4 post=90228376][/quote]Waoh! Which book of exegesis of the Bible states this?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 1:08pm On Jun 03, 2020
Kay25:
For God so love the world(are you not in the world)
God loves me so that's why he sent his only son to be murdered on the cross abi?
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 1:14pm On Jun 03, 2020
AntiChristian:
God loves me so that's why he sent his only son to be murdered on the cross abi?
exactly to prove how much he loved you to the extent of dieing for you check John 15 vs 13 he called you his friend and he proved that to you with a greater love dieing for your sins for you to be saved
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 3:25pm On Jun 03, 2020
femi4:
Why is it unrelated, the second fig tree had second chance and he started producing fruits.

Comparing mango tree to fig tree shows your knowledge is limited anyway.
Do figs fruit every year?
Growing period - The fruiting cycle is 120-150 days. Some varieties produce one crop per year, others two. Trees have been known to live as long as 200 years.

Jesus doesn't know this. And this is similar to Mangoes too!

femi4:
Stop twisting the scripture: Jesus not knowing the hour was referring to judgement day for humans and not fig tree
The Fig tree passage is not symbolic. It is literal.

femi4:
John 13:1
New International Version
It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.

How did the John know that Jesus knew this? Did Jesus tell John?

[quote author=femi4 post=90227203]John 12:49
For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
Moses, Abraham and others too didn't speak of their own. They spoke as God's mouth-piece.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:04am On Jun 04, 2020
Kay25:
exactly to prove how much he loved you to the extent of dieing for you check John 15 vs 13 he called you his friend and he proved that to you with a greater love dieing for your sins for you to be saved
At what point of love will you send your son to die for others?
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:09am On Jun 04, 2020
paix:
Thanks. Since it's DUAL purpose, what's the other purpose of the kerosene?
Aviation fuel!
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 9:11am On Jun 04, 2020
AntiChristian:
At what point of love will you send your son to die for others?
the highest point of love ni sir just as Abraham did in offering his own son to God.It is a gift of life to prove how much of worth you even you the anti Christian is to God
Re: What Is Sin? by paix(m): 9:14am On Jun 04, 2020
AntiChristian:
Aviation fuel!
You garrit. Thumbs up.
Re: What Is Sin? by AntiChristian: 9:16am On Jun 04, 2020
Kay25:
the highest point of love ni sir just as Abraham did in offering his own son to God.It is a gift of life to prove how much of worth you even you the anti Christian is to God
At what point does a father sacrifice his son to save others?
Re: What Is Sin? by Nobody:
SIN means BLUNDER!

But God is merciful, he will not judge you for what you don't know, that's why he has dispatched his WITNESSES throughout the earth to educate people on those things he will not tolerate when he begin ruling the earth! Galatians 5:19-21

Most things Paul mentioned in that letter may sound confusing.
For instance,

©What concerns God when two persons who love themselves feel like enjoying sex?
©Why must they be married before they're qualified to satisfy the urge?
©Why must they be male and female, not homosexuals, lesbians or bestialists?
©What crime has a masturbator committed against God?
©What is wrong in having sex with minors who agreed doing it?
©What's wrong if we had loud parties?
©What's wrong in going to night clubs?
©What is wrong in going spiritual to make ends meet?

None of above could be taken as wicked act because it involves no injury! huh

So many will ask : What concerns God with my own enjoyment?

That's why we need qualified faithful men and women who will be fully competent and completely equipped to teach others! 2Timothy 3:16-17

God bless you! smiley
Re: What Is Sin? by Kay25(m): 1:57pm On Jun 04, 2020
AntiChristian:
At what point does a father sacrifice his son to save others?
when the father needs to bring other sons who are lost back to him through faith by grace for the salvation of the lost shrep just because of his love for the world and you
1 2 3 4 5 6 Reply

Is Sin Innate In Us?Why Is Sin Inherited But Salvation Isn't?2019 Elections: Giving, Collecting Bribe To Vote Is Sin – Catholic Bishop234

If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame."I'm Tired Of Being A Christian", A Think-piece For ChristiansDoes The Christian God Actually Exist?