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I think the only solution now for obaseki is to go and beg Oshiomhole.

daddytime:
It hurts to realize and begin to accept the fact that the population of morons in the country dwarfs the reasonable voices, thereby truly making any rescue of whatever is left of the future of the country an exercise in futility.

What a wasted and damaged generation.

Tuehhhh

There are two APC chairman in Edo state.

ogbonti:
with people
like you who
compromise online
everyday- how can
Nigeria ever be great?

In the buildup to the 2011 elections, a wealthy northern businessman donated 36 buses to CPC presidential campaign and demanded concessions from Buhari, I think to put his men in some ministries. Buhari blatantly refused and asked him to take his buses away. Also, one of the reasons the merger talks between ACN and CPC failed in 2011 is that Tinubu's camp wanted Bakare dropped and replaced with their candidate. Buhari refused and lost that election.

In 2014, Buhari, Tony Momoh and Buba Galadima realized that for Buhari to ever have a shot at the Presidency, some concessions were inevitable and an alignment with Tinubu was indispensible. Buhari compromised and the ACN, CPC, part of ANPP and I think APGA fused to form the APC. Now understanding the importance of alliances, the new APC went to court disgruntled members of the PDP like Amaechi, Saraki and Kwankwaso. This horse-trading and alignment added 3 million votes to CPC's already assured 12 million votes.

Buhari understands that to win elections, you need alliances and must be prepared to make concessions. He had to lose three times to understand this. Tinubu understands that politics is local. Now Obaseki thinks insults and threats would win him a second term. It has never happened.

As for you claiming I can make compromises online, well understand that if I am ever a politician, I'd make reasonable compromises and concessions to get what I want, but NEVER on matters of principles. El Rufai knelt down, Gbajabiamila knelt down, Buhari wept on national TV, Atiku wept, Theodore Orji took an oath in Okija shrine (I can't do this one), some are bathed in....

Do you understand?

Oshiomhole is an ungrateful and a destructive person. Oshiomhole ruled Edo State uninterrupted for 8years. Obaseki supported him to clinch the position of the party national chairman. What did he (oshiomhole) want? No body is blaming the governor for under performing. The only words from his supporters are, Obaseki fighting oshiomhole. And I ask, how exactly is he fighting oshiomhole? Will your uncle walk into your father's house and walk you out to bring his son to inherit your father's house and you obey because is your uncle. Note, i have not said government house is Obaseki inheritance, telling Obaseki not to fight back is like telling the man son not to resist his uncle.

walex2:
You are so intelligent and your analysis is very superb, party must write INEC 21 days before the primary and they cant change the mode of primary again, the election is sacrosant and no executive order can change it.

Your summary is the reality of edo situation, emotions, ignorance no count at all.

Esseite:
We are in a pandemic and the Governor has the right to curtail movements where necessary if information reaching him shows that such would be detrimental to the health of the state.



So how did Obaseki bite the people?... or are the people no longer the provider of the food and eligible voters?...

Castigate the man based on his achievements, and not based on sharing the peoples resources to political cabals.

. But the same cabal put Obaseki there. You're a leaner in politics. We are talking about real politics not the political science you studied at University.

Crownbefitsme:
Direct primary won’t hold in my state, Obaseki insists
We settled for direct primary to prevent crisis –APC
Ruling party, Edo gov lawyers renew battle in court Monday



https://punchng.com/edo-primaries-inec-backs-oshiomhole/

But INEC is a wing of APC

drskyfly007:
Executive orders by a governor can stop large gathering of people, if such gathering can lead to a spike in death cases.

Remember the primary role of a governor is to protect lives and properties of it's citizenry.

So in this case, large gathering of people might lead to spike of covid 19 which invariably will cause loss of lives...and as such, he as the governor is performing his primary job, which is protection of lives, by preventing such scenario.

This is actually the submission of a senior lawyer though..

See another saw dust brain .....

Even if Ize-Iyamu defeats Obaseki in the APC primaries scheduled for June 22 this year and becomes the next governor, Oshiomhole cannot still become the Edo state godfather as Ize-Iyamu is far too street smart and wily to be caged like a bird. Where really will that leave Oshiomhole? He would only succeed in replacing his once docile Obaseki with a power hungry Ize-Iyamu.

Web2020:
Oshiomhole is an ungrateful and a destructive person. Oshiomhole ruled Edo State uninterrupted for 8years. Obaseki supported him to clinch the position of the party national chairman. What did he (oshiomhole) want? No body is blaming the governor for under performing. The only words from his supporters are, Obaseki fighting oshiomhole. And I ask, how exactly is he fighting oshiomhole? Will your uncle walk into your father's house and walk you out to bring his son to inherit your father's house and you obey because is your uncle. Note, i have not said government house is Obaseki inheritance, telling Obaseki not to fight back is like telling the man son not to resist his uncle.

you have already said it, that the government house is Obaseki's inheritance. you alluded to that when you said Oshiomole ruled for 8years uninterrupted, hence he should allow Obaseki rule for eight years. my brother, we should understand that Oshiomole did not just rule for 8years uninterrupted. He went through primaries to get the second term ticket. perhaps, you may say he went through a consensus. yes he went through indirect primary because there was no faction in the party. The party was united. Although, there were pockets of opposition against him within the party but he was able to persuade the majority of them to his side and the party became united. Do you now expect that Gov. Obaseki should be given a second term ticket without a primary? If there should be a primary what kind of primary should it be? In my Opinion, it should be a direct primary. This is because it will give opportunity to the different faction to vote. If we make it an indirect primary, it means you are saying the governor should get it without any contestation because most of the delegates would be commissioners, the 10 house of assembly members, etc who then do you think they would vote for if not Obaseki. but since he said he has done so well for us in Edo state, let him feel very free to come to the field in a direct primary and contest.

serverconnect:
Obaseki is a goner. Although he still have chance to prove himself in other party.

Lesson: Never bites the fingers that feed you. This is what we see in Nigeria politics.

The real question is who feed who? Obaseki said Oshiomole was broke b4 he was helped to become governor.

emkz:
This is just the beginning and Obaseki is saying he'd stop the direct primaries. Does he even have control over security forces to enforce it? INEC has sided with the party and be sure they won't accept any other mode of primaries. If the state conducts its own primaries beside what the NWC approves, the party chairman can decide not to accept it.

Governor Obaseki, I know you are reading or Crusoe Osagie is. Oshiomole is a problem because you created it. Oshiomole lacks the clout of a political heavyweight like Tony Anenih. Go and placate the 14 house of assembly members, Tony Kabaka and state party leaders like Pius Odubu, Chris Ogiemwonyi, Solomon Edebiri and Ize-Iyamu, and make the necessary compromises. You are busy fighting your imaginary enemy (Oshiomole) while ignoring the real power brokers in Edo State who determine the tide of elections. Oshiomole cannot unilaterally order the other politicians to drop their ambitions and support you because they are not there to serve Oshiomole's interest but theirs. Go and engage in horse-trading, get their buy-in and reduce Oshiomole's influence in Edo politics. The way to do it is not by going to Tinubu or Buhari or issuing infantile threats like telling the national chairman to recuse himself from the party primaries being an interested party or saying that you are not in support of direct primaries. Every member of the party is an interested party. A good war general does not talk about his moves, he makes them like Oshiomole is currently doing.

You may need to hire consultants and lobbyists to advise you properly and stop listening to people like Charles Idahosa and Anslem Ojezua. Left to me, I'd tell you to throw in the towel because if they mess you up, you can as well forget about taking any board or political appointment in Nigeria or abroad because a political neophyte is seen as a liability everywhere.

My brother may God bless you and may you always be able to tell truth to power whenever you are tasked at providing such! The truth is they might have exceeded the threshold like you rightly pointed out. I am afraid he's going the route of Ambode politically, yet Ambode didn't even do half of what they have pushed Obaseki to do. He's neither an asset to state party stakeholders/party members nor an asset to his political godfather(s)--a liability across the board.

27Pushing30:
Lol that’s where you’re wrong .
1. Whether or not election holds Obaseki ceases to be a governor by 12th November 2020 as he was sworn in on 12th November 2016 . That aspect has been settled by the constitution and the courts

2. INEC must give notice of elections 90 days before the election as stipulated by the electoral act and that means election must hold in September

So basically what he is doing is daring the APC to either allow him win or risk not fielding a candidate at which point the presidency will either tell Oshiomole to back off or order police to secure the venue of all direct primaries and go ahead with the primary.

It’s a bold move by Obaseki sha COVID 19 public health emergency is a real life saver for him.

A bold but desperate move--the twitching of the dying nerves of his political career. It's a shame it's come to this; some of us have been telling him since 2017, that he need better advisers, that he needed to govern by consensus opinion. I remember reaching out to Crusoe, telling him his boss was being sucked up into a political Whirlpool, a wormhole of selfish ideologues. Alas, we have come to this instance in time where they are gazetting an order a law school student knows holds no water.

serverconnect:
Obaseki is a goner. Although he still have chance to prove himself in other party.

Lesson: Never bites the fingers that feed you. This is what we see in Nigeria politics.

Wishy wishy write up...keep dreaming

drskyfly007:
Executive orders by a governor can stop large gathering of people, if such gathering can lead to a spike in death cases.

Remember the primary role of a governor is to protect lives and properties of it's citizenry.

So in this case, large gathering of people might lead to spike of covid 19 which invariably will cause loss of lives...and as such, he as the governor is performing his primary job, which is protection of lives, by preventing such scenario.

This is actually the submission of a senior lawyer though..

we know you must do this till obaseki enters political pit hole obasekis brain will enter reset when they start redeployment of police and other security heads in the state .ask Fayose, Ambode ,Saraki Amosun,Okorocha ,even ask Wike during covid when they started withdrawing the security attached to his covid tax officers he then realise where he belong to.if you want to dispute it tell me when last Wike went out to Bragg and arrest Rivers state citizens ?

Jorussia:
obaseki should learn how to fight political battles intelligently without running into unnecessary tensions.An executive order by a governor cannot stop people from gathering for elections.No executive order can regulate the conduct/mode of operations of political parties in Nigeria.The Constitution of Nigeria and the electoral act is greater than even an executive order from the President.Without elections there is no democracy.The only scenario where elections can be regulated by executive order is when the Constitution is suspended.Forexample,the PDP in Edo state has ward Congresses to elect non statutory delegates for their indirect primary slated for tomorrow,is Obaseki saying the PDP should not gather across the state for this exercise?

Obaseki doesn't know that without election, there is no government. Thanks for making it clear once again

Hmmmm

Would you have said these if there was no issue btw him and Oshiomole? You're fighting for your oppressors!

Binikingdowm:
Obaseki the mou governor needs to go abeg, for past 4 years he did nothing except media propaganda.

Benin port?
Benin central park?
Emotan garden?
Industrial park?
Benin Enterprise?
Modular refinery?
Royal museum?
Edo production centre?

Bastard governor that drag Edo backward.. he can't even list 10 good projects completed during his tenure

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emkz:
In the buildup to the 2011 elections, a wealthy northern businessman donated 36 buses to CPC presidential campaign and demanded concessions from Buhari, I think to put his men in some ministries. Buhari blatantly refused and asked him to take his buses away. Also, one of the reasons the merger talks between ACN and CPC failed in 2011 is that Tinubu's camp wanted Bakare dropped and replaced with their candidate. Buhari refused and lost that election.

In 2014, Buhari, Tony Momoh and Buba Galadima realized that for Buhari to ever have a shot at the Presidency, some concessions were inevitable and an alignment with Tinubu was indispensible. Buhari compromised and the ACN, CPC, part of ANPP and I think APGA fused to form the APC. Now understanding the importance of alliances, the new APC went to court disgruntled members of the PDP like Amaechi, Saraki and Kwankwaso. This horse-trading and alignment added 3 million votes to CPC's already assured 12 million votes.

Buhari understands that to win elections, you need alliances and must be prepared to make concessions. He had to lose three times to understand this. Tinubu understands that politics is local. Now Obaseki thinks insults and threats would win him a second term. It has never happened.

As for you claiming I can make compromises online, well understand that if I am ever a politician, I'd make reasonable compromises and concessions to get what I want, but NEVER on matters of principles. El Rufai knelt down, Gbajabiamila knelt down, Buhari wept on national TV, Atiku wept, Theodore Orji took an oath in Okija shrine (I can't do this one), some are bathed in....

Do you understand?

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you are
comparing apples
to oranges my friend


All your Buhari examples of 2011 or when ever Buhari started to run was when he was not in Aso Rock - your strength and influence is minimal as a contestant as compared to when you are incumbent- agreed Buhari cried- he may have even bowed down to Tinubu and worshipped him just to get the support but what happened in 2019? he became a different person and he did whatever he liked - even Amaechi his campaign director general confirmed and I quote “the president doesn’t listen to anybody” - sounds familiar ?

All the people from APGA were all relegated and those that were not relegated were read the riot act to conform or be thrown out- you know why ?


Life as a fresh contestant is quite different from when you are seeking re-election. I have been close to a former state governor and we talked about and I know what a governor can do to tip the scales to favor him on election day - my brother it’s a lot Obaseki can do, don’t be fooled!

Lastly the alliances you mentioned were necessary because of the scope of the federal elections - Nigeria is a country of 36 states with 204 ethnic group that speak unintelligibly. With so much divisions on the basic of religion, tribes, region and political suspicions emanating from long history of divide and rule by the british and a bitter civil war and dominance of the north over the south, such concessions are necessary to advance - BUT not a similar situation in a smaller scope like Edo State elections.

so all your examples above are unnecessary Sir

Thank you!

myboy2111:
What is this one saying? Who will submit candidate to INEC? Who fields candidates? As if you did not read what INEC and Electoral law say before commenting

I’m not at fault for your poor comprehension bro.

emkz:
This is just the beginning and Obaseki is saying he'd stop the direct primaries. Does he even have control over security forces to enforce it? INEC has sided with the party and be sure they won't accept any other mode of primaries. If the state conducts its own primaries beside what the NWC approves, the party chairman can decide not to accept it.

Governor Obaseki, I know you are reading or Crusoe Osagie is. Oshiomole is a problem because you created it. Oshiomole lacks the clout of a political heavyweight like Tony Anenih. Go and placate the 14 house of assembly members, Tony Kabaka and state party leaders like Pius Odubu, Chris Ogiemwonyi, Solomon Edebiri and Ize-Iyamu, and make the necessary compromises. You are busy fighting your imaginary enemy (Oshiomole) while ignoring the real power brokers in Edo State who determine the tide of elections. Oshiomole cannot unilaterally order the other politicians to drop their ambitions and support you because they are not there to serve Oshiomole's interest but theirs. Go and engage in horse-trading, get their buy-in and reduce Oshiomole's influence in Edo politics. The way to do it is not by going to Tinubu or Buhari or issuing infantile threats like telling the national chairman to recuse himself from the party primaries being an interested party or saying that you are not in support of direct primaries. Every member of the party is an interested party. A good war general does not talk about his moves, he makes them like Oshiomole is currently doing.

You may need to hire consultants and lobbyists to advise you properly and stop listening to people like Charles Idahosa and Anslem Ojezua. Left to me, I'd tell you to throw in the towel because if they mess you up, you can as well forget about taking any board or political appointment in Nigeria or abroad because a political neophyte is seen as a liability everywhere.

Very well said.

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Binikingdowm:
Obaseki the mou governor needs to go abeg, for past 4 years he did nothing except media propaganda.

Benin port?
Benin central park?
Emotan garden?
Industrial park?
Benin Enterprise?
Modular refinery?
Royal museum?
Edo production centre?

Bastard governor that drag Edo backward.. he can't even list 10 good projects completed during his tenure

If you are from Edo state it shows you have been sleeping all this while .

Validated:
APC has lost Edo State ... lose Obaseki ,,, lose EDO! A seating governor has POWER over any godfather, except he is a dundee.

All those masturbating over NWC and Oshomole holding primaries in 192 wards forgot that same Obaseki prevented Oshomole's mock primaries that they had to shift location to Abuja. What is he going to do differently this time Let Obaseki fight to set the standard. No more godfatherism. Do your term and go and rest and let others do theirs.

Just 500 gun trotting tuggs is enough to disrupt the primaries and NOTHING go happen.

Lastly most people do not know that Aliko Dangote is an interested party in Edo 2020. He is the godfather of Obaseki, and arguably made him governor not Oshomole. And you know what? Buhari has Aliko's ears ... if you know, you know! Not ranting SW media and Iyamus online touts.

See gra-gra and sophisticated name dropping Obaseki style, lol.

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fistonme:
no need for too much English. Everybody have a right to support who they choose to support. It will be better you show maturity and sanity by allowing them observe their right of association. Don't see anybody who seem not to agree with your views as stupid or evil. With your seeming enlightenment, would you then call all African traditional religion worshippers evil or insane? please the watch word is TOLERANCE. This is exactly the character your principal, Governor Godwin Obaseki has that is making everything difficult for him now. He forgot that being a leader means you should be able to manage people of all kinds. The good, the bad and the ugly. He should be able to tolerate opposing views by first listening, the using interpersonal and persuasive skills try to make them buy into his own views so as to enable him get a consensus to achieve his goals since we are in a democratic era which requires numbers. To him, it is either you with me or you are an opposition and being an opposition, you should be thrown out of the bus. This attitude has made him throw away the baby and the bath water. Now he is trying to force those he alienated for years to now come and support his second term bid by force. This is no matter of Tinubu or Oshiomole. It is a matter of him fighting the political class. Even if one is a technocrat(as he says he is), the moment you join politics you become a politician. A good politician should have persuasive skills. But our Governor says no, he is not a politician but a technocrat. Well he is just technocrat, no wonder he has taking such novice decisions all these while. But how can a fish be in water and say it will never swim(in the case of Obaseki's, using persuasive skills in placating people with opposing views) ?

We'll said, as in, "your head dey dia."

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fistonme:
you have already said it, that the government house is Obaseki's inheritance. you alluded to that when you said Oshiomole ruled for 8years uninterrupted, hence he should allow Obaseki rule for eight years. my brother, we should understand that Oshiomole did not just rule for 8years uninterrupted. He went through primaries to get the second term ticket. perhaps, you may say he went through a consensus. yes he went through indirect primary because there was no faction in the party. The party was united. Although, there were pockets of opposition against him within the party but he was able to persuade the majority of them to his side and the party became united. Do you now expect that Gov. Obaseki should be given a second term ticket without a primary? If there should be a primary what kind of primary should it be? In my Opinion, it should be a direct primary. This is because it will give opportunity to the different faction to vote. If we make it an indirect primary, it means you are saying the governor should get it without any contestation because most of the delegates would be commissioners, the 10 house of assembly members, etc who then do you think they would vote for if not Obaseki. but since he said he has done so well for us in Edo state, let him feel very free to come to the field in a direct primary and contest.

Who is going to conduct the direct primary Oshiomhole? The same oshiomhole who openly declared support for Ize-Iyamu. Your submission would have been fine if Oshiomhole rescue himself from the conduct of the primary because he has interest in it.

Ayodoni1:
I think the only solution now for obaseki is to go and beg Oshiomhole.

Even this is too late already. As the saying goes, "The train has since left the station."

For all it's worth, I think Governor Obaseki is currently at the stage ex-governor Ambode was, when he called a "World" press conference and claimed that Sanya-Olu was a mental case undergoing treatment at Gbagada, and that he (Ambode) had irrefutable evidence to prove it.

That was one of the major turning points for Ambode, IMHO. The rest is history.

Those who have eyes, let them read.

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emkz:
In the buildup to the 2011 elections, a wealthy northern businessman donated 36 buses to CPC presidential campaign and demanded concessions from Buhari, I think to put his men in some ministries. Buhari blatantly refused and asked him to take his buses away. Also, one of the reasons the merger talks between ACN and CPC failed in 2011 is that Tinubu's camp wanted Bakare dropped and replaced with their candidate. Buhari refused and lost that election.

In 2014, Buhari, Tony Momoh and Buba Galadima realized that for Buhari to ever have a shot at the Presidency, some concessions were inevitable and an alignment with Tinubu was indispensible. Buhari compromised and the ACN, CPC, part of ANPP and I think APGA fused to form the APC. Now understanding the importance of alliances, the new APC went to court disgruntled members of the PDP like Amaechi, Saraki and Kwankwaso. This horse-trading and alignment added 3 million votes to CPC's already assured 12 million votes.

Buhari understands that to win elections, you need alliances and must be prepared to make concessions. He had to lose three times to understand this. Tinubu understands that politics is local. Now Obaseki thinks insults and threats would win him a second term. It has never happened.

As for you claiming I can make compromises online, well understand that if I am ever a politician, I'd make reasonable compromises and concessions to get what I want, but NEVER on matters of principles. El Rufai knelt down, Gbajabiamila knelt down, Buhari wept on national TV, Atiku wept, Theodore Orji took an oath in Okija shrine (I can't do this one), some are bathed in....

Do you understand?

I honestly don't think the poster you responded to, will understand what you've written. But others should find your points very useful as they go forward with their political thinking, permutations, expected results from polls, and rewards.

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Ambode, see your mate fighting like a man!
Win, lose or draw!

Cowards in human skin = AFONJAKASSES!
Tueh!

duwdu:
I honestly don't think the poster you responded to, will understand what you've written. But others should find your points very useful as they go forward with their political thinking, permutations, expected results from polls, and rewards.

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Thanks for your feedback!

jaxxy:
The real question is who feed who? Obaseki said Oshiomole was broke b4 he was helped to become governor.

And who feeds you? Obaseki was rich before he became governor?

Validated:
APC has lost Edo State ... lose Obaseki ,,, lose EDO! A seating governor has POWER over any godfather, except he is a dundee.

All those masturbating over NWC and Oshomole holding primaries in 192 wards forgot that same Obaseki prevented Oshomole's mock primaries that they had to shift location to Abuja. What is he going to do differently this time Let Obaseki fight to set the standard. No more godfatherism. Do your term and go and rest and let others do theirs.

Just 500 gun trotting tuggs is enough to disrupt the primaries and NOTHING go happen.

Lastly most people do not know that Aliko Dangote is an interested party in Edo 2020. He is the godfather of Obaseki, and arguably made him governor not Oshomole. And you know what? Buhari has Aliko's ears ... if you know, you know! Not ranting SW media and I yamus online touts.

If Abuja supported all you mentioned, it will be fulfilled,but he didn't enjoys their support, all will be a failed mission.