Theconglomerate:
What will happen?
You and who dey talk about tomatoes?
I say Apple inside reefer containers.
So the market union are now working with Nigeria customs and port authority to give them info on the content of every container weh dey commot apapa right?

i want to sure u have been to the port....what is the name of the police station opps flourmills Nigeria ? Is very popular.2 how many custom check points do we have from warf to marine beach 3 what is the name of the round about from tincan port in ward apapa commerical area .....what the name of the prominent hospital by this round abouts.....answer this question then i will know u are a real importer of apple selling on traffic not audio

Theconglomerate:
He will buy in cups if he will even see the cups to buy.
Retailers are driven by profits,not emotions.
90% of retailers will buy 15k local rice to retail than to buy 33k foreign rice to retail because they will make more profits on the local one of 15k.
Retailers will go to market and buy the cheap one to sell because of the margin they will make,not caring which is imported or not.
If 90% of petty traders are buying the cheaper one to retail,where will the poor masses now see the foreign one to buy in cups when it is barely available in the market?
Is it not what you see that you will buy?
You see say you are the one saying what you don't know now na.
It is better to keep shut and listen and learn from trade expert than argue what you don't know.

confused clown ...u said a man earning minimum wage...abi u don drink

Theconglomerate:
He will buy in cups if he will even see the cups to buy.
Retailers are driven by profits,not emotions.
90% of retailers will buy 15k local rice to retail than to buy 33k foreign rice to retail because they will make more profits on the local one of 15k.
Retailers will go to market and buy the cheap one to sell because of the margin they will make,not caring which is imported or not.
If 90% of petty traders are buying the cheaper one to retail,where will the poor masses now see the foreign one to buy in cups when it is barely available in the market?
Is it not what you see that you will buy?
You see say you are the one saying what you don't know now na.
It is better to keep shut and listen and learn from trade expert than argue what you don't know.

international trade expert which of the ports in Lagos do apple land ? Tincan or warf .....what the cost of 20 ft container from apapa to your oshodi

ahiboilandgas:
i want to sure u have been to the port....what is the name of the police station opps flourmills Nigeria ? Is very popular.2 how many custom check points do we have from warf to marine beach 3 what is the name of the round about from tincan port in ward apapa commerical area .....what the name of the prominent hospital by this round abouts.....answer this question then i will know u are a real importer of apple selling on traffic not audio

I don't know who you think you are asking this kind of question.
"You want to make sure"?
Are you kidding?I tell you make you bring money make we do business together that you are asking me to verify myself to you? I will take it as a slip of tongue.
So I ask you again and you should answer me objectively,what stops me from entering into ajao estate to offload during peak period and align with my customer to come and carry from any warehouse there?

ojesymsym:
I do pity farmers a lot, I wish there was a system in place for them to also earn some form of pension at the end of their farming years. Like a contributory pension fund where whatever amount they put in government adds the same amount, that hopefully will encourage them to save for the future and make their last days a lot easier when the strength to lift their cutlass is no longer there.

You are very correct,
but in the absent of government support they can invest their savings for a better tomorrow . We are having an influx of young farmers dey shouldn't eat with all their hands as sweet as harvest maybe savings and investment should be a culture.

ahiboilandgas:
confused clown ...u said a man earning minimum wage...abi u don drink

You have run out of objectivity and honestly talking out of point.
A man earning minimum wage means what?

Many people wen go school non sabi investment is it farmers that will now know what to invest in?
Except there is a deliberate policy to make that happen, I do not see it happening.
I really hate to see farmers poor, it pains me a lot considering their product is more important than a mobile phone.

hollerbaby:


You are very correct,
but in the absent of government support they can invest their savings for a better tomorrow . We are having an influx of young farmers dey shouldn't eat with all their hands as sweet as harvest maybe savings and investment should be a culture.

Theconglomerate:
I don't know who you think you are asking this kind of question.
"You want to make sure"?
Are you kidding?I tell you make you bring money make we do business together that you are asking me to verify myself to you? I will take it as a slip of tongue.
So I ask you again and you should answer me objectively,what stops me from entering into ajao estate to offload during peak period and align with my customer to come and carry from any warehouse there?

if u answer then i know u know what happing in the ports not theories...what the cost from port to Ajao estate for 40 ft or 20 ft ....

ahiboilandgas:
international trade expert which of the ports in Lagos do apple land ? Tincan or warf .....what the cost of 20 ft container from apapa to your oshodi

Theconglomerate:

cos u cant answer ...i want to know to cross check with the price they are giving me..

ahiboilandgas:
if u answer then i know u know what happing in the ports not theories...what the cost from port to Ajao estate for 40 ft or 20 ft ....

What makes you think I want or need any validation of any kind from you?
"So that you will know that I know what's happening in the ports?"
So if you accept that I was an importer perhaps it's going to change my style or standard of living.
The delusions of importance.

ahiboilandgas:
cos u cant answer ...i want to know to cross check with the price they are giving me..

I won't answer.
Know the difference.
If you need help with clearing a container,go apapa and look for an agent.
You can discuss trucking and clearing with him.
Je will give you his quote,then you go to other agents and get their quotes..compare them and pick the cheapest then you import.

Theconglomerate:
What makes you think I want or need any validation of any kind from you?
"So that you will know that I know what's happening in the ports?"
So if you accept that I was an importer perhaps it's going to change my style or standard of living.
The delusions of importance.

i will agree that u sell a truck load of your imaginary apple on the road side in Lagos cash abi or inside ajao estate....

ahiboilandgas:
i will agree that u sell a truck load of your imaginary apple on the road side in Lagos cash abi or inside ajao estate....

Whether you agree or not does not matter na..
But since you are a cartel guru in lagos state,I will like you to tell us how your cartel people will know that I have apple if I don't come to arena market at all but move the goods from the port straight to a warehouse in Ajao.
They now have spies in the ports that monitor every reefer container and its movement around lagos na

Theconglomerate:
What makes you think I want or need any validation of any kind from you?
"So that you will know that I know what's happening in the ports?"
So if you accept that I was an importer perhaps it's going to change my style or standard of living.
The delusions of importance.

i will come and buy from aaaaaaaajjjjjjoooaaaaa estate...i luv apples

Union have power only in their markets they control.
Different markets have different unions for different items.
What union can do is that they will make sure you don't sell in any market around lagos by calling their correspondents in the market you are leaving theirs for and you will get same treatment.
But if you have your customers already and can align with them when goods are scarce,they will come to wherever you are offloading and carry the product there and union won't know.
Not like they can do anything but for future purposes because scarcity won't last forever.
When normalcy returns,they can deny you from operating in the market again,that's all.
Cartel like say them go come shoot gun for where you dey offload

ahiboilandgas:
i will come and buy from aaaaaaaajjjjjjoooaaaaa estate...i luv apples

I don't sell apples no more.
This was wayback 2014.
If you want to know what I do and see my business,come to Port Harcourt and feed your eyes.
Maybe after that you will learn to shut up more.

Theconglomerate:
Whether you agree or not does not matter na..
But since you are a cartel guru in lagos state,I will like you to tell us how your cartel people will know that I have apple if I don't come to arena market at all but move the goods from the port straight to a warehouse in Ajao.
They now have spies in the ports that monitor every reefer container and its movement around lagos na

how do ministry of land people know ever new unapproved buildings they Mark...if u dont know all petrol imported and sold in apapa port we pay 0.5 naira per litre to the union ..any truck coming into apapa has a ptd fees and union dues paid ....truck dont fly into the port ....they pass alaka to ijoria to marine beach to warf or take mile 2 to tincan or take Liverpool to tincan via coconuts ...in all those check points their are union people ....if apple importers seller are a organise
body they wil get all shipping manifesto from Npa ....i know say na lie u blow sha ....good nite i wan sleep...

Theconglomerate:
I don't sell apples no more.
This was wayback 2014.
If you want to know what I do and see my business,come to Port Harcourt and feed your eyes.
Maybe after that you will learn to shut up more.

ok talk say na onne port i dey operate...no need for me to come port....unless u are buiding 650k barrel refinery...for now i just decode u are a lair with your accounts of apapa to ajao ....impoter wanna be .....i never look dangote finish na u mushroom business i go travel ph go see ....abi u be wike ...

theconglomerate

Do you orgasm from quarrels?

ahiboilandgas:
how do ministry of land people know ever new unapproved buildings they Mark...if u dont know all petrol imported and sold in apapa port we pay 0.5 naira per litre to the union ..any truck coming into apapa has a ptd fees and union dues paid ....truck dont fly into the port ....they pass alaka to ijoria to marine beach to warf or take mile 2 to tincan or take Liverpool to tincan via coconuts ...in all those check points their are union people ....if apple importers seller are a organise
body they wil get all shipping manifesto from Npa ....i know say na lie u blow sha ....good nite i wan sleep...

Apple is containerised in reefer(container with fridge),like small round grapes,imported fresh foods,fish,etc....
Nobody can tell which is which in the container till it gets to the markets and people take to the market in lagos because that's where cold rooms are located for storage.
During scarcity caused by muslim fasting,it gets scarce and customers can do anything for products.
So you take the product to another place other than market since you don't need storage in cold rooms because clients are ready to buy immediately,so you can avoid coldroom rent and offload levy in the market.
What you don't know,ask and learn than to be running your mouth.
Everything is not kerosene business.

Theconglomerate:
It will become cheaper for anyone holding dollars that want to buy Nigeria tomatoes.
So how is this bad for a person growing tomato in Nigeria that will make more sales because of more patronage from foreign clients?
What's your point?

I'm done arguing. You are clueless.

Let them devalue it, i will buy your entire tomato farm with peanuts and you won't still have enough to expand your business competitively enough to compete with external markets.

You'll never get , experience will teach you .

Adiós enjoyed your childlike arguments.

ahiboilandgas:
ok talk say na onne port i dey operate...no need for me to come port....unless u are buiding 650k barrel refinery...for now i just decode u are a lair with your accounts of apapa to ajao ....impoter wanna be .....i never look dangote finish na u mushroom business i go travel ph go see ....abi u be wike ...

What is so fancy about importation that is making you feel is so impossible to attain or too fancy is what I still don't understand till now
Something 20 year old boys in Onitsha are using to start life by sharing 20 ft container space with their friends.
You maybe shouting oil and gas all the time weh people weh fit pass you here wella just dey look you dey laugh.
If I tell you make we post wetin your oil and gas business don give you while I post what my mushroom trading business have given me,I'm sure you will learn to enter your shell more.
Job title is nothing.

olujaidi:
theconglomerate

Do you orgasm from quarrels?

I wasn't quelling,fools were just barking when presented with objectivity.

Focusingmore:


I'm done arguing. You are clueless.

Let them devalue it, i will buy your entire tomato farm with peanuts and you won't still have enough to expand your business competitively enough to compete with external markets.

You'll never get , experience will teach you .

Adiós enjoyed your childlike arguments.

If you buy all my farm produce at the naira price that is okay for me,I will be happy na.
I don't care whether you go and make all the money in the world with my product.
So long as you give me enough naira to pay all my boys and expand my farm,I will be glad selling to you.

Theconglomerate:
What is so fancy about importation that is making you feel is so impossible to attain or too fancy is what I still don't understand till now
Something 20 year old boys in Onitsha are using to start life by sharing 20 ft container space with their friends.
You maybe shouting oil and gas all the time weh people weh fit pass you here wella just dey look you dey laugh.
If I tell you make we post wetin your oil and gas business don give you while I post what my mushroom trading business have given me,I'm sure you will learn to enter your shell more.
Job title is nothing.

Lol.. He makes container import sound like Harvard course. In Onitsha, most guys that does imports already have solid tested and trusted clearing agents in the market. Hand over your document and go sleep. It will be delivered to your warehouse. From the agent warehouse in china, he already started his work.

Dreamflyin:


Lol.. He makes container import sound like Harvard course. In Onitsha, most guys that does imports already have solid tested and trusted clearing agents in the market. Hand over your document and go sleep. It will be delivered to your warehouse. From the agent warehouse in china, he already started his work.

Na so we dey take know people weh never do business before na
E think say na to dey shout oil and gas here all the time.
So far as you don't import contraband,you and port no get business.
People that go to port are people that smuggle contraband so that they can bribe custom live and direct personally on inspection day.
You go get agent still dey go port?
The guy is really daft.

Blessamaka:

My post might be lengthy but I'll try my best to be brief but please read to the end.

I'm in my early twenties (20's) and currently a student in one of the prestigious university in Nigeria.

Before I got admission, I usually help my mum to sell onions in Ajegunle market aka boundary market in Lagos State.

Ever since schools were shut down due to the pandemic I've been scared of helping my mum because of the despicable rules or laws guiding the business which i might not be able to keep to it thereby putting my mum in trouble and that's the only means of survival for me and mum for now.

My mum belongs to a group of people that sells same product and they are usually referred to as Union and the leaders are the one dishing out those annoying laws.

Examples of such laws are:

1. You don't buy more than the quantity of goods apportioned to you else you will be fined and suspended from selling but the so called leaders go contrary to these laws

2. They tell you when to buy goods i.e before buying new goods, you sell your old goods for 7days not minding if the quantity apportioned to you is enough or not. My self as a case study, we were apportioned 3 bags of onions and I sell 3 bags in 3 days so me and my mum would stay at home for 4days before going to buy new goods.

3. They tell you when to start selling which is 10:00am everyday excluding Sunday and this law was before the pandemic

4. They tell you how to sell i.e the size of onions you are to sell for a particular amount as if they borrowed you money or they are the one giving you money always to buy goods.

And many more of these unimaginable laws. Right now I confused! I don't know the best way to go about this and I really do wish to start selling because I'm broke and I've so many responsibilities to care for financially.

I need legal help, advice on how to go about this until I get something else to do or probably a work or a different business.

The reason for going into business is to make profit and save for rainy days but the reverse seems to be the case here.

Please help me move to front page to get more reviews in regard to this.

Bring Investment ideas which would have been a better alternative since TB is too low now we won't see. The same too much talk that has not yielded anything in this country is what some of you unnecessarily litter this place with. @ Dreamflyin above was a practical problem that was brought for practical solution. What was your answer there again? Also be reminded that cars are imported too and it also comes the same way other imported items comes through agents. Anything that is easy for me I do not go on internet looking for solutions to it.

You guys will come here and be bragging and talking anyhow as usual..Na una trade mark.

freeman67:


Bring Investment ideas which would have been a better alternative since TB is too low now we won't see. The same too much talk that has not yielded anything in this country is what some of you unnecessarily litter this place with. @ Dreamflyin above was a practical problem that was brought for practical solution. What was your answer there again? Also be reminded that cars are imported too and it also comes the same way other imported items comes through agents. Anything that is easy for me I do not go on internet looking for solutions to it.

You guys will come here and be bragging and talking anyhow as usual..Na una trade mark.

No one argued about the existence of unions.
We were talking about times of scarcity.
From what you posted,you clearly see that union powers end only in those markets.They can't do nothing to you outside that market.
Now in time of scarcity,there is demand but little or no supply.This forces your customers to be desperate and can go out of their way to get goods,so you arrange with them at the place you will offload to sell to them there so that you can dodge union fees,offload fees,marching ground boys and coldroom rent that is expensive as you won't need it because customers for it are already present with cash and their small buses so no need for storage.
The only reason we use to hide from union is that scarcity won't last forever like I said.
Fasting will end and everything will return to normal and you will no longer be able to corner clients again because everyone now has goods to sell and they will prefer going to the market because it is cheaper for them.
Now if you have pissed off union in the time of scarcity,they can manipulate and make you not be able to sell again in that market,that is where their power ends.In the market,finish.Not that union will come and hold you while offloading bla bla bla...trash.
His irish potato talk is not true about how they hoard potato to hike price in trucks.
How do you hoard potato in trucks that can get rotten at anytime
If at all you want to hoard,the owner will ask you to pay him upfront so he can escape the thing spoiling under his custody else he moves his produce to another market and union has lost commission from here.

Theconglomerate:
According to them Nigeria has so much money.
The government needs to do this,the government needs to do that....
Like say na empty hand dem dey use do am

Hahahaha

Nigerians need to first understand that looting or not. We don’t have much money.

Oga emmanuelewumi, abeg when are you going to start typing again?

Theconglomerate:
I don't know who you think you are asking this kind of question.
"You want to make sure"?
Are you kidding?I tell you make you bring money make we do business together that you are asking me to verify myself to you? I will take it as a slip of tongue.
So I ask you again and you should answer me objectively,what stops me from entering into ajao estate to offload during peak period and align with my customer to come and carry from any warehouse there?

Ahiboilandgas was talking about trailer loads of Irish potatoes waiting to enter the union regulated market and here you are talking about carrying apples to Ajao Estate.

Can u explain how a trailer of potatoes will be allowed into Ajao estate as compared to carton of apple.

Can u explain how everyone in Ajao estate will all come out to gather around a potato trailer to buy all the goods before they perish.

As the owner of Ajao estate and the Lord of Lagos who determines that market can be anywhere away from unions and sales can happen quickly no matter the size and number of goods, which other estates would you recommend all other 20 trucks waiting to head to so that the union will not control their sales.

I hope u are aware that those imported apples can be in your house for months too. If it were the truck of potatoes, do u have storage options in your house?