Finallydead:

To all inquirers, Rev12 is a battle yet to be fought. A wonderful model that shows the protocol of spiritual warfare and how men's state determines whether God or Satan will rule on earth and the ground on which Satan continues to dominate in the heavenlies.
And the key to victory here is in v11.

1.)What men did with the blood. Men appropriated the blood to cleanse them of all that isn't of Christ hence these men became perfect reflections of Christ on earth. Until we truly unleash the power in his blood, not by mere confession of lips, we will not attain to this perfection.
2.) the logic of witness/testimony: which logic is that they experientially applied to themselves the resurrection power of Jesus not in mere words but reality.
3.) The offering of their lives as living sacrifices to God: Which is that they attained this witness by following the same process of the Lord Jesus as advised in (Ph2:5-13, 3:10)

Until the church as a unit is ready to pay the price of these three, we may say and do whatever we wish and continue our denominational/sectarian recklessness but Satan will keep his throne in the heavenlies and will continue to have greater influence than God on earth in reality.

For the same reason that men had all the laws of nature for harnessing for 5500 odd years but lived primitively because they never learned these laws but in learning them, it only took the past 400 years for us to revolutionise the earth with technology. When Christians finally humble themselves to seek to understand the laws of God, it will take them the shortest time to harness His omnipotence.
Btw, when you speak of God as all powerful, let it always be in the context that God cannot break the laws of His own existence and until those laws are engaged, He remains indeed powerless.
These are good questions and those helped by the Holy Spirit will benefit.

LordReed:
This is one of the more inconsistent aspects of Christian theology, the idea that a fallen angel can stand up to the power of the almighty god. How can you insist that your god is all powerful and still believe a fallen angel can stop the work of your all powerful god?

Kobojunkie:
SMH! very sad indeed that this is what many who are called Christians have chosen to believe of their God!

LordReed:
So what is your position on this issue?

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe in a God that is limited in any way or sense.

LordReed:
So the god you believe in can create a square circle?

Kobojunkie:
Nothing is impossible with Him.

LordReed:
Have you seen any thing like a square circle?

Kobojunkie:
That I have never seen it does not mean it is definitely impossible. That I cannot imagine the possibility of an idea does not then make that idea an impossible one. It simply means my mind is not able to grasp the possibility of it at the present.

LordReed:
How are you then able to assert that your god can do it if you have no demonstration of such a thing?

Kobojunkie:

Why do I need a demonstration? I am not able to assert any of you exist beyond the confines of my own mind, yet here I am communicating with you all daily. My entire reality might as well have been created by my mind, experienced through my sense, who knows for sure.

LordReed:
It's funny how whenever a believer in god is asked for evidence of the god they believe in, their begin to question reality. If the reality is that shaky then we still have no reason to believe in your god or anything you say about his attributes.

Kobojunkie:

Your reality may be shaky but mine isn't. I only told you the truth of my perception of my reality, a truth that probably applies to all humans who exist, even though many of them may not think that deeply about such things

LordReed:
If you are questioning if I am real then your reality is shaky or its not but you just want to poison the well, a dishonest tactic.

LordReed:


This still does nothing to dispel the point which is this devil character has as much power as your god. Here you are saying the devil dominates.



Oh please your god played no role in human progress. If your god really wanted human progress we would have developed very differently.

Your god is just a basket of contradictions. You claim he is all powerful yet he has these rules he cannot break much like a human being cannot defy gravity unaided. Even at that with aid a human can defy gravity with aid but your all powerful god cannot bypass spiritual laws. You guys need to really sit down and think through these things before you say them.

Finallydead:

Forever and ever, the wisdom of men is foolishness to God, the Omniscient, Only wise. Fellow believers, observe here the demand of God on your life. Ignorant flesh and blood say that the omnipotence of God should not be bounded by any laws else it is no omnipotence. Let us investigate this in finite logic because if God is truly the Creator, He must be found even in finite logic, not limited to it though but as well, in the infinite.
If any claims omnipotence must be able to do anything whatsoever, then he also says God must be able to end His own existence. But if God can end His existence, He is not eternal, hence cannot be God.
See then, fellow brothers, that God's omnipotence must be bounded by laws tied to His own existence and for His omnipotence to be, these laws of His existence must first be in place.
Omnipotence then, is the ability to ONLY alter ANY CREATED reality that is inconsistent with divine nature.
O believer, the heaven of heavens is God's jurisdiction but the heavens(space) and earth are man's(Ps115:16, Mt6:10, Eph6:12). Men only and not God, determine what reality will be on earth because this privilege were we given.
Do you now see that the only reason the earth is yet to see the omnipotence of God is because we have abused the privilege of freewill, failing to align ourselves with divine nature and it's laws in our lives, claiming wanton grace. Hence, Satan seducing men's will, retains His throne in the heavenlies(space) and on the ground of the God-given privilege, defies God while men are bound by laws of fallen nature and we manage little droplets of divine power according to our degree of conformity.
Let believers therefore seek in God, the mystery of becoming a new creation by His blood in reality, fulfilling Rev12 on the conditions of v11 because this is the real reason He came to shed His blood for men to take on divine nature. Do not be satisfied with a mercy-ticket to heaven.

Kobojunkie:
You are mistaken. I am not questioning if you are real or not. I know you are simply a product of my mind and my senses.

There is a difference! Think more along the lines of the movie "The Matrix" or even VR

LordReed:
I think your psychosis has not ended. You should seek professional help.

Kobojunkie:
Everyone is a psychologist these days, right?

LordReed:
I said seek professional help, did I say I am one?

Kobojunkie:
Well, for you to suggest that my psychosis hasn't ended, obviously you think yourself one.

LordReed:


Are you seeing double? How is this a response to what I wrote that you quoted?

LordReed:
So if I suggest someone with fever has malaria it means I think myself a doctor? You really need help.

Kobojunkie:

Did I tell you that I am having a psychotic episode right now?
Did I tell you that my bout with those has not ended?
You made an assumption based on nothing you know of and arrived at a conclusion, albeit disconnected. What did you expect me to do with that?

LordReed:

My assumption is based on the fact that you are saying things that make it seem like you are disconnected from reality. You on the other hand made an assumption that has no bearing on the facts, further highlighting your seeming disconnect. I have every reason to ask you to seek professional help.

Kobojunkie:
Everyone is a psychologist these days, right?

Finallydead:

My response is not necessarily just for you but if you wish, you can read the modified posts and read your appended quote in case you lost yourself.

Finallydead:


Ignorant flesh and blood say that the omnipotence of God should not be bounded by any laws else it is no omnipotence. Let us investigate this in finite logic because if God is truly the Creator, He must be found even in finite logic, not limited to it though but as well, in the infinite.
If any claims omnipotence must be able to do anything whatsoever, then he also says God must be able to end His own existence. But if God can end His existence, He is not eternal, hence cannot be God.
See then, fellow brothers, that God's omnipotence must be bounded by laws tied to His own existence and for His omnipotence to be, these laws of His existence must first be in place.
Omnipotence then, is the ability to ONLY alter ANY CREATED reality that is inconsistent with divine nature.

LordReed:


...I made 3 different responses to you and you just picked one to unload an unrelated response to, I have every reason to think you are...

Eviana:
Mercy....
Not the way I wanted the thread to go.
I knew "he" was coming with guns-a-blazing, just didn't know "how" he was gonna strike.
Ephesians 6:12 (KJV).
On another note, I saw your question Somvayina, and sir you too are tighly wound in satan's grip. You are almost squeezed to death.
I honestly can't read through the majority your posts because they are so filled with hatred, rage & venom. It's highly offensive to my spirit...not that Mr. Reed's is that much better...but....
I don't think you as well want the truth nor are you teachable.
I didn't have a burden to pray for you as I do LordReed & 4 others, but you will be added to my general list of Nairaland folks on the religion section....
Finallydead, yes I can persevere for him, (regarding my specific prayer) however he has to make a choice (freewill)...who he is gonna worship. Right now, it's overwhelmingly satan.
Perhaps that will be his final choice. I hope not, but neither "I' nor God can or want to control Him.

LordReed:


Begs the question who made the laws that your god must be bound by, if you insist it was your god who made the laws we are bound by in this universe. If it was your god who made them then he can manipulate them like you insist he does with the laws of our universe. If he didn't make them or can't bypass them then you have revealed that there is something greater than your god.

And yet still more contradictions. With every answer, more bramble.