Presentation of MESSIAH in the temple

MuttleyLaff:
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We're now widening the goal-post.

OK 1500s for Americas and 1619 for America, so how did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619?

The Africans were stolen by the Portuguese and the English. They took them to the US where they landed in Virginia in 1619 and sold them to the lazy white colonizers. For your information there were Africans living freely in the US prior to this.

Saint Anne, Mother of Mary

Can you guess why they broke off their noses and lips?

MuttleyLaff:
donnie, fyi, stones dont like you, lie. I dont trust you donnie. I trust the dirt, the dirt is always truthful. Archaeology evidences dont lie. In archaeology, you uncover the unknow, not that it is something you'll understand or appreciate, lmao. From the word go, all my info, charts and whatnot have always been partly based and centred around Egyptologists' findings, discoveries and/or solutions

Yes! Of course donnie, there is a gap of 280 years (i.e. almost 300 years) between the end of the book of Genesis and the birth of Moshe, the start of the life of Moshe in the book of Exodus, lmao.

Fyi donnie, Genesis in Hebrew means beginning, and you'll agree there are many different beginnings recorded in that book and Exodus in Hebrew, means, leaving, exit and/or departure, lmao.

Now, the 280 years gap making you restless, is sandwiched between the end of Genesis (i.e. Genesis 50:26) and Exodus 1:7-10. You can even, alternatively say, the gap is between Exodus 1:6 and Exodus 1:7-10, lmao. Do you want the arithmetics, hmm?

Have the biblical facts and dates first before the arithmetic, lmao:
Joseph, and all his brethern and all that generation dies 1806 BC (i.e. Exodus 1:6)
Moshe is born 1526 BC (i.e. Exodus 2:2)
Moshe at 40 years old leaves Egypt, went to live in Midian 1486 BC (i.e. Exodus 2:15)
Moshe at 80 years old returns to Egypt 1446 BC (i.e. Exodus 7:7)

1806 BC -1526 BC = 280 years, this is the years difference between Joseph's death and Moshe' birth
280+80 = 360 years, calculated from adding Moshe' 80th birthday
360+40 = 400 years, total slavery years, calculated from adding years he took for Joseph's brethern and all that generation to die
(i.e. a generation in biblical language & in this context = 40 years)
400+30 = 430 years, calculated from adding the 30 years prior to enslavement commencing

I have saved you the rigmarole, please dont go be hurting your brain cells lmao, brother MuttleyLaff has done the heavy lifting for you, lmao, dont get your pendicured finger nails damaged

"Solomon loved many foreign women.
Besides the daughter of the king of Egypt he married Hittite women
and women from Moab, Ammon, Edom, and Sidon."
- 1 Kings 11:1

"¹This is the message Jeremiah received concerning the Judeans
living in northern Egypt in the cities of Migdol, Tahpanhes, and Memphis,a and in southern Egyptb as well:
²“This is what the LORD of Heaven’s Armies, the God of Israel, says:
You saw the calamity I brought on Jerusalem and all the towns of Judah.
They now lie deserted and in ruins. "
- Jeremiah 44:1-2

donnie, it is disgraceful that you are bent on propagating your falsehoods and that you are too lazy to update your biblical and historical knowledge, smh. I am not going to bore you with astonishing revealing fact in Jeremiah chapter 44, but just to say, its enough using 1 Kings 11:1 and Jeremiah 44:1-2 to bring to your attention that Israelites have always somehow returned to live in Egypt, even Yahshua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior of the whole wide world, at one time had need, to take refuge in Egypt.

Genesis 15:13, has nothing whatsover to do with the US. The transAtlantic slave trade to the US, didnt start until the 16th century (i.e. 1619) and continued into the early 18th century (i.e. 1863/1866) when it ended

Slavery, as a matter of fact was accidentally introduced into the US. The first 20 odd slaves arrived there after two British pirates, the Treasurer and the White Lion, intercepted the ship transporting them to Vera Cruz, on the coast of Mexico by Portuguese slave traders. They climbed on board hoping to find bounty of gold, but what they met were slaves. These the pirates seized and sold them off as booty of war and/or traded them off for victuals (i.e. food and drinks) from the Governor and Cape Merchant of Jamestown, who bought them to work on the tobacco fields.

donnie the slavery in the US didnt last 400 years, so you of course, can see how this little fact and truth drops a sediment into your little bottle of oil, lmao. Here is another bitter truth for size. Little over half a million of the 12,000,000 slaves transAtlantic transported, were brought to th US. In fact, 600,000 slaves were transported to America, as in meaning, 5% of the 12 million slaves taken out of Africa were enslaved in the US.

"²⁰“And when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then you will know that the time of its destruction has arrived.
²¹Then those in Judea must flee to the hills. Those in Jerusalem must get out, and those out in the country should not return to the city.
²²For those will be days of God’s vengeance, and the prophetic words of the Scriptures will be fulfilled.
²³How terrible it will be for pregnant women and for nursing mothers in those days. For there will be disaster in the land and great anger against this people.
²⁴They will be killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world. And Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles until the period of the Gentiles comes to an end.
³²I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these things have taken place. "
- Luke 21:20-24 & 32

Now, donnie, the fact of the matter and truth is that, Genesis 15:13, had already been fulfilled in Egypt, where it was talking of your seed, Israel, the nation and not your seed, an individual, Isaac/Jacob/Israel, the man.

donnie, Genesis 15:13, dusted and done with. That prophecy has long gone being fulfilled, the next one is Luke 21:20-24 & 32, and mind you, it has nothing to do with America, because this one is talking of what happened immediately after Jerusalem in 70 AD was annihilated.

You see donnie, Yeshushua Ha Mashsiach, aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, the incarnate of God, walked the Earth from about 1–33 AD made the above prophecy you read in Luke 21:20-24 & 32 above, but guess what it was fulfilled bang on the money, 40 years thereabouts later in 70 AD, lmao. This is 40 years, give or take, later after Luke 21:20-24 & 32 above was said by Him, lmao. donnie, remember Luke 21:32, it is about our friend again, here we have a generation equals 40 years popping up again, lmao. Bible sweet ooo, lmao.

Both prophecies, Genesis 15:13 and Luke 21:20-24 & 32 were fulfilled, right on time. As for Luke 21:20-24 & 32, Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus, a witness at the time of the siege on Jerusalem, claims over 1.1 million people were killed during the initial siege alone, of which a majority were Jews. 97,000 Jews were captured and enslaved and others fled to Mediterranean areas and Africa for refuge. This amount dwarfs the 600,000 slaves sent to the US, many hundreds years after 70 AD.

“...And as Titus went around and saw the trenches filled with the dead…
he groaned aloud, and, raising his hands, called God to witness that this was not his doing.”
- Eusebius (Church historian, written circa 325 AD, book III chapter VI)

Eusebius, a church historian, in the early 300 AD, wrote the above quote, about how the Roman conquerer, Titus, felt on seeing the aftermath of the siege of Jerusalem. Apparently, the conqueror, Titus, was so traumatised by what he saw, he refused to accept and wear the customary wreath of victory

donnie, please I beg you, wake up and smell the coffee!. There are no ritually pure descendants of the Israelites existing. With all modesty and honesty, they've all been mongrelized. That is how YAH wanted it donnie. The last prophecies in the bible were fulfilled in 70 AD and not in the 15th to 18th century, lmao. The only prophecies since then, left to be fulfilled donnie, are the ones concerning the end of the world. donnie, all scriptures in the New Testament were written prior to 70 AD and must be read with that context in mind, the context of the annihilation of the Hebrews which took place that year. The same applies to Genesis 15:13 too, please dont make the mistake of try to catapult Genesis 15:13 out of its sphere of fulfillment

I'll for now, pause here, I continue to be praying for you donnie and pray that you take 2 Timothy 2:15 and Proverbs 4:7-9 as very well, to heart. Shalom brother.

PS: I am actually surprised, you made no attempt to introduce or quote from one of your favourite books, the Book of Jasher, lmao. Like maybe, try to quote from chapter 81, lmao

khia:
The Africans were stolen by the Portuguese and the English. They took them to the US where they landed in Virginia in 1619 and sold them to the lazy white colonizers. For your information there were Africans living freely in the US prior to this.

generationz, come and see khia, trying to bail out Baba, but only managed to make a dog's dinner of the whole simple and easy question, lmao. Smh, Baba's poodle doesnt, in this context, even know the difference between US and North America, lmao

Napoleon the great who was appalled having noticed the negro features on the Sphinx of Giza, ordered his men to shoot off its nose.

donnie:
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Napoleon the great who was appalled having noticed the negro features on the Sphinx of Giza, ordered his men to shoot off its nose.

Baba, why are you, a respected and elderly man, barefacedly fond of lying now. Why, why, why?

That Sphinx of Giza's nose was already broken off before Napoleon, in the 19th century, set his foot in its vicinity. Baba please fear YAH now. Please fear God ooo.

An archaeological study, even concluded that it was broken with instruments at an unknown time between the 3rd and 10th centuries CE, but you say that it was Napoleon, born 15 August 1769 and died 5 May 1821 who broken off the nose. Poor history student/teacher. Smh.

MuttleyLaff:


generationz, come and see khia, trying to bail out Baba, but only managed to make a dog's dinner of the whole simple and easy question, lmao. Smh

Damn, what's wrong with you? I'm American, I know the history of the US especially when it concerns my people. You always have to bring up Donnie when I'm educating you on a topic. I guess you know more about my history than I do. The reason I stopped conversing with you is you never except knowledge all you do is beat a tired horse to death..

Also the 400 years is a representation of the years Black Americans have been in captivity in the **Land Of The Free.**

Great work Donnie...

Not very many will appreciate this fact for the vast majority sleep! So unfortunate...

MuttleyLaff:
Baba, why are you, a respected and elderly man, barefacedly fond of lying now. Why, why, why?

That Sphinx of Giza's nose was already broken off before Napoleon, in the 19th century, set his foot in its vicinity. Baba please fear YAH now. Please fear God ooo.

An archaeological study, even concluded that it was broken with instruments at an unknown time between the 3rd and 10th centuries CE, but you say that it was Napoleon, born 15 August 1769 and died 5 May 1821 who broken off the nose. Poor history student/teacher. Smh.

ONE ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY.

khia:
Damn, what's wrong with you. I'm American, I know the history of the US especially when it concerns my people. You always have to bring up Donnie when I'm educating you on a topic. I guess you know more about my history than I do.

The only true born and real Americans are the Native Americans/American Indians (e.g. Apache Indians, Sioux Indians, Comanche, Cherokee et cetera) Every other person on that soil are either immigrant or slaves, lmao.

As for you my dear missus, Madam confused dot com, getting her knickers in knot , you're the product of an ex-African slave, which is why you address yourself as African American.

You and Baba, are nothing other than poor history students/teachers. What has the benefit of a benefit education got you other than ignorance and having to resort to lying through your teeth.

Don't you see how you completely made a right mess of the simple, easy, direct and straightforward question I asked Baba about how did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?

PS: Be editing, changing and adding more to your original comment there. There is no rest for twisted and wicked people of your sort, lmao

khia:
ONE ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY.

I can give you more proofs, for you to choke on, if you kindly, with pretty please ask me to, and each proofs will confirm that the nose was already centuries ago, broken off before Napoleon in the 19th century turned up. This is fact, unlike the lie that Baba, poor history student/teacher was peddling

khia:

Damn, what's wrong with you? I'm American, I know the history of the US especially when it concerns my people. You always have to bring up Donnie when I'm educating you on a topic. I guess you know more about my history than I do. The reason I stopped conversing with you is you never except knowledge all you do is beat a tired horse to death..

Also the 400 years is a representation of the years Black Americans have been in captivity in the **Land Of The Free.**

But the simple question he asked was what year to what year represents 400 years? We are always open to learn as long as it good knowledge.

Why do black people like to feel like there is something special about them when they are their own biggest problem?

MuttleyLaff:
The only true born and real Americans are the Native Americans/American Indians (e.g. Apache Indians, Sioux Indians, Comanche, Cherokee et cetera) Every other person on that soil are either immigrant or slaves, lmao.

As for you my dear missus, Madam confused dot com, getting her knickers in knot , you're the product of an ex-African slave, which is why you address yourself as African American.

You and Baba, are nothing other than poor history students/teachers. What has the benefit of a benefit education got you other than ignorance and having to resort to lying through your teeth.

Don't you see how you completely made a right mess of the simple, easy, direct and straightforward question I asked Baba about how did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?

PS: Be editing, changing and adding more to your original comment there. There is no rest for twisted and wicked people of your sort, lmao

The first free African recorded to arrive in the US via Florida was in 1513. My answer was the same as yours, via Portuguese and British which I posted before you did

khia:
The first free African recorded to arrive in the US via Florida was in 1513.
My answer was the same as yours, via Portuguese and British which I posted before you did

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Go check the date stamp of my mention & compare with yours
Your answer is nothing other than off the chart misinformation

Besides, the question was: "How did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?"

generationz:


But the simple question he asked was what year to what year represents 400 years? We are always open to learn as long as it good knowledge.

1619 to 2019.

generationz:
But the simple question he asked was what year to what year represents 400 years? We are always open to learn as long as it good knowledge.

It is OK not to understand something than to misunderstand. It's even better to remain ignorant consciously than to think that you know, like our resident Israelite wannabes do

Baba couldn't answer that question. He'll have to fudge, spin, twist, wriggle and employ sophistry in order to get that rounded number 400 years. He knows its an impossible task, the maths just wouldn't add up for him, which is why he ignores and dodges answering the question, lmao

khia:
1619 to 2019.

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Iamdazzle:
Great work Donnie...

Not very many will appreciate this fact for the vast majority sleep! So unfortunate...

SHALOM

MuttleyLaff:
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Go check the date stamp of my mention & compare with yours
Your answer is nothing other than off the chart misinformation

Besides, the question was: "How did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?"

I stated the Portuguese and the British and so did you, how is.my answer misinformation just because I made the answer short?

Shaka Zulu

MuttleyLaff:
It is OK not to understand something than to misunderstand. It's even better to remain ignorant consciously than to think that you know, like our resident Israelite wannabes do

Baba couldn't answer that question. He'll have to fudge, spin, twist, wriggle and employ sophistry in order to get that rounded number 400 years. He knows its an impossible task, the maths just wouldn't add up for him, which is why he ignores and dodges answering the question, lmao

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Read my post that explains the 400 years.

MESSIAH heals the sick

Even BUDDHA was not spared.

The BLACK MADONNA...
Revered by the popes.

khia:
I stated the Portuguese and the British and so did you, how is.my answer misinformation just because I made the answer short?

Look at the question again here and tell me if you truly answered it :
"How did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?""

The Portuguese did not steal, that there, is one misinformation for you, but rather they paid for those African they carted away as slaves, and of which you are the descendants of.

Another misinformation, is that, you aren't a true born and real McCoy American because you aren't aboriginal to the US, you are aboriginal to Africa, lmao. Only the Native Americans/American Indians are aboriginal to America. Every other person on that soil are either descendants of immigrants or slaves lmao.

donnie:
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Even BUDDHA was not spared.

Seated Buddha from Gandhara on display in the British Museum
Period/culture c. 2nd - 3rd Century AD

Another big fat lie just loaded by Baba, the poor history student/teacher, smh. Even BUDDHA is not spared of donnie's lies

The above seen picture is of Seated Buddha from Gandhara. It is an early statue of the Buddha discovered at the site of Jamal Garhi in ancient Gandhara in modern-day Pakistan, that dates to the 2nd or 3rd century AD. It is now in room 22 of the British Museum.

Statues of the "enlightened one" were not made until the 1st century CE. Before that, Buddha was represented by aniconic symbols such as his footprint.

MuttleyLaff:


Another big fat lie just loaded by Baba, the poor history student/teacher, smh. Even BUDDHA is not spared of your lies

The above seen picture is of Seated Buddha from Gandhara. It is an early statue of the Buddha discovered at the site of Jamal Garhi in ancient Gandhara in modern-day Pakistan, that dates to the 2nd or 3rd century AD. It is now in room 22 of the British Museum.

Statues of the "enlightened one" were not made until the 1st century CE. Before that, Buddha was represented by aniconic symbols such as his footprint.

Buddha.
We know when we see a useless fake sculpture, accompanied by many lies.
Like the white Jesus' in the Christian churches.
Chinese aboriginals will not make images of their god to look like a different race when they themselves were black.
They are not as stupid as Africans.

donnie:
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Buddha.
We know when we see a useless fake sculpture, like the Jesus' in the christian churches.

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Another poor attempt big fat lie just loaded by Baba, the poor history student/teacher, smh. I can give you a non-flat nosed buddha earlier than 800 AD, lmao

MuttleyLaff:
Look at the question again here and tell me if you truly answered it :
"How did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?""

The Portuguese did not steal, that there, is one misinformation for you, but rather they paid for those African they carted away as slaves, and of which you are the descendants of.

Another misinformation, is that, you aren't a true born and real McCoy American because you aren't aboriginal to the US, you are aboriginal to Africa, lmao. Only the Native Americans/American Indians are aboriginal to America. Every other person on that soil are either descendants of immigrants or slaves lmao.

#1 I am a First Nation woman because my grandmother is of the Sioux and Seminole Nation's.

#2. The Portuguese, British, Arabs, Americans, Spainards, Africans or any nation that participated in slavery STOLE human lives.

#3. What is the meaning of Juneteenth and why was it established?

khia:

1619 to 2019.

Google's official date is 1500's

Have you ever asked yourself why the Jews have gone through some of the worst dehumanizations in history yet they don't go about blaming anyone for their backwardness?

If whites are responsible for poverty among black Americans, who is responsible for the backwardness among Africans in Africa after independence?


We are not special anything. The only reason ancient Egyptians where advanced was because of the rulers then. They put development at the forefront of that which was paramount for their cities. Same with modern economies your leaders run to with your money.

Stop searching for books for prophecies about Africa rising without working for it. You will end up being deceived by charlatans who will take your money to buy Gucci and roll Royce created by the White man(your enemy).

MuttleyLaff:


Another poor attempt big fat lie just loaded by Baba, the poor history student/teacher, smh.

These Chinese aboriginals are not as stupid as you Israelites.