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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 12:55pm On Jun 17, 2020
Gaining one or two things seriously (from comments) on tomato cultivation..let make Nigeria great!

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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jun 17, 2020
There is an organisation making a lot of sales in Akwa Ibom. You may need to learn how they do it.
Variety should be the answer. Get quality hybrids.

ideepaul:

UC 28 and all the opvs would be a suicide mission during the rainy seasons of Akwa Ibom State. All tomato cultivars would succumb to the rains of the South South zone, but can be managed with GAP.
Testing suitable hybrids gives one a headstart, and exposes the characteristics of these cultivars, with respect to disease resistance, growth habit. Also, fruiting habits, shape, taste, firmness, market acceptance. We can't invest our hard earned resources just based on hearsay by seed companies and co-farmers, I need to test that it favours my environmental growing conditions.
About 2 months ago, I had the cucumber cultivars I was interested in cultivating, only for me to realise that Uyo seed sellers only had Saira and Nandini by east west(not very popular cultivars, except within Uyo), and one, I had no alternative due to the lockdown and scarcity of seeds nationwide.
I intend to avoid such scenarios next time, by testing cultivars locally available, and comparing them with other options I can lay my hands on.
2 out of the 3 cultivars I am interested in are difficult to access
platinum F1 - readily available and in small quantities
cobra34 F1 - Don't even know who is selling and most likely still available in only 50g cans
Gamhar F1 - Expensive and not economical to waybill less than a thousand seeds( I really need to test this seed)

Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 5:41pm On Jun 17, 2020
EMMAACHILE:
There is an organisation making a lot of sales in Akwa Ibom. You may need to learn how they do it.
Variety should be the answer. Get quality hybrids.

about the said organisation, is it AKEES?
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by hargbolahan01: 9:52pm On Jun 17, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
Gaining one or two things seriously (from comments) on tomato cultivation..let make Nigeria great!
I'm also trying to cultivate one too I would happy to get your number and chat up on WhatsApp
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by IamAsiri: 10:32pm On Jun 17, 2020
Please do you want to sell your tomato seedlings?
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Nobody: 11:46pm On Jun 17, 2020
ideepaul:

about the said organisation, is it AKEES?
Agricboom
https://www.facebook.com/1361654992/posts/10217640135019465/
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 12:49am On Jun 18, 2020
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:17pm On Jun 18, 2020
hargbolahan01:
I'm also trying to cultivate one too I would happy to get your number and chat up on WhatsApp
no whalla... let make Nigeria great together
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:24pm On Jun 18, 2020
IamAsiri:
Please do you want to sell your tomato seedlings?
if you are going into commercial TOMATO farming..I will advise you buy f1 seed. But, if it is for consumption or you just want to experiment I be happy to sell now.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by IamAsiri: 3:41pm On Jun 18, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
if you are going into commercial TOMATO farming..I will advise you buy f1 seed. But, if it is for consumption or you just want to experiment I be happy to sell now.
It's not for commercial purpose. It's for experiment/consumption. Please what's the name of the tomato?

I bought Roma and tried nursing it, but none has germinated so far. Hence he reason why I want to go for seedlings.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:46pm On Jun 18, 2020
IamAsiri:

It's not for commercial purpose. It's for experiment/consumption. Please what's the name of the tomato?

I bought Roma and tried nursing it, but none has germinated so far. Hence he reason why I want to go for seedlings.
okay...platinum WhatsApp 08034790734
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 8:57pm On Jun 18, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
okay, but has the ripening start? Pls quote me When you pluck the first round...it maybe we are missing something here and we will need to improve (on Padma)
@farmerakinloye6 @oluchidelly, I just observed the cracking issue on some fruits (mainly the bigger fruits), I am still monitoring for more signs of the cracks

Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by OluchiDelly: 9:28pm On Jun 18, 2020
ideepaul:

@farmerakinloye6 @oluchidelly, I just observed the cracking issue on some fruits (mainly the bigger fruits), I am still monitoring for more signs of the cracks

That's it. That's the only issue with padma. I initially thought it was due to harsh dry season effect.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 9:45pm On Jun 18, 2020
OluchiDelly:


That's it. That's the only issue with padma. I initially thought it was due to harsh dry season effect.
In my market, size matters! And cultivating platinum only pays when there is scarcity. The Padma fruits were averagely OK. I just hope I can test some more cultivars this year
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by jidestroud(m): 10:41pm On Jun 18, 2020
Cracking issues with padma?? shocked
That's a new one which I never experienced when I grew it. In my opinion, it certainly has to do with moisture management. What am I saying self, padma was built for the rains.

Even the fruits size we keep talking about ain't that small. Most of the fruits I got on the cobra, padma could rival the rio grande in my pilot project. (I will check my archives to get the pictures) Only the Roedo were outstandingly big.
Jelani too was okay though it was just about 3 plants I grew. Roma VF okay. Lindo was just there angry , UC 28 was superb likewise platinum.

Although some plants are more prone to cracking than others, but the real issue is irrigation management for the plants. 48hrs constant rainfall to any tomato plant without proper drainage will split any variety. (I stand to be corrected). Mulching is a big deal in growing tomatoes and getting it right saves a lot of stress.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 12:46am On Jun 19, 2020
jidestroud:
Cracking issues with padma?? shocked
That's a new one which I never experienced when I grew it. In my opinion, it certainly has to do with moisture management. What am I saying self, padma was built for the rains.

Even the fruits size we keep talking about ain't that small. Most of the fruits I got on the cobra, padma could rival the rio grande in my pilot project. (I will check my archives to get the pictures) Only the Roedo were outstandingly big.
Jelani too was okay though it was just about 3 plants I grew. Roma VF okay. Lindo was just there angry , UC 28 was superb likewise platinum.

Although some plants are more prone to cracking than others, but the real issue is irrigation management for the plants. 48hrs constant rainfall to any tomato plant without proper drainage will split any variety. (I stand to be corrected). Mulching is a big deal in growing tomatoes and getting it right saves a lot of stress.
Nothing beats the Akwa Ibom rain! I am still confused about the minor cracking issue on the bigger fruits mainly
Padma has normal sized tomato fruits but platinum is smaller in size, 70-80g according to east west. Cobra 26 was just too small, hence, cobra34 F1.
Someone recommended the new diva F1, but gaining access to it is challenging from what I have heard. Mulching is important, but I don't use mulch when testing as I want to see how it copes with normal management without drip fertigation and mulching
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 8:53am On Jun 19, 2020
ideepaul:

@farmerakinloye6 @oluchidelly, I just observed the cracking issue on some fruits (mainly the bigger fruits), I am still monitoring for more signs of the cracks
imagine you have twenty crate for sale and you have mistakenly pluck those crack ones inside each crate, if you are unable to sell it between two days, BABA..the way Dem go price am!! go make tomato work tire you. And, if you decide not to be including Big big ones that crack, you either turn to tomato philanthropist or pack them inside crate...cum see Dem market women price it anyhow.... NOTE... Plantinum also crack, but the rate can't be compare together...my observation though!
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 9:57am On Jun 19, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
imagine you have twenty crate for sale and you have mistakenly pluck those crack ones inside each crate, if you are unable to sell it between two days, BABA..the way Dem go price am!! go make tomato work tire you. And, if you decide not to be including Big big ones that crack, you either turn to tomato philanthropist or pack them inside crate...cum see Dem market women price it anyhow.... NOTE... Plantinum also crack, but the rate can't be compare together...my observation though!
I won't harvest at fully ripe stage to avoid stories that touch o grin grin grin. The cracks are minor and only happen after very heavy rains. Who wan do tomato philanthropy with my big fruits? shocked shocked shocked , I noticed something with people, they will pass-by and pretend not to see those fruits but I give them once, majority will be coming back everyday demanding (not even begging grin grin) for more fruits, especially ladies. Them think sey na love I wan use my tomato play sha grin grin grin
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by hargbolahan01: 10:38pm On Jun 19, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
imagine you have twenty crate for sale and you have mistakenly pluck those crack ones inside each crate, if you are unable to sell it between two days, BABA..the way Dem go price am!! go make tomato work tire you. And, if you decide not to be including Big big ones that crack, you either turn to tomato philanthropist or pack them inside crate...cum see Dem market women price it anyhow.... NOTE... Plantinum also crack, but the rate can't be compare together...my observation though!
I wish to go into tomato farming by August (rainy season) which type of seed will recommend... I'm planting for commercial purpose on two acres of land
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 5:30am On Jun 20, 2020
hargbolahan01:
I wish to go into tomato farming by August (rainy season) which type of seed will recommend... I'm planting for commercial purpose on two acres of land
Are you in the north or south? And I hope you know what you are gunning for? worst time to cultivate tomatoes(my personal opinion) because all that can go bad will get worse. Argh 2 acres? shocked shocked at the peak of the rainy season, with an inexperienced farmer, I only pray God grants you success, but this is a risky venture sir
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Sterlingsolutns: 2:29pm On Jun 20, 2020
@jidestroud

Nice statistics

One of the difficult aspect of planning and projections is the dearth of reliable data. As simple as your numbers look, the embedded value is profound because it is based on an observable data. It shows that you are an organized agroprenuer

But are your numbers truly correct?

A big basket is about 40kg. Per your analysis, a plant will give about 5kg and therefore 8 plants will fill a basket

Tomatoes can be planted at a spacing of about 30cm by 80 cm so in an acre you have a population of about 16k so you can get approx 2k baskets from an acre

Tomatoes prices fluctuates from as high as 12k per basket to as low as 3k per basket so assuming a worst case scenario of 3k per basket you are looking at a gross revenue of 6m per acre or 1m per plot within a space of 90 days. This looks too good to be true to me

Please clarify

@ farmerakinloye6

Please, advise how many platinum tomatoes fruits will likely fill a crate

Thanks


jidestroud:


Don't get me wrong Boss mi, I just wanted to be clear on the per plant. Your harvest is truly good.
For example, when I did my statistics per plant the last time I did Cobra 26, per plant I was able to harvest 5.64kg per plant. i.e average weight per fruit was 85grams.

In summary, that is (5640/85)grams = 66.35 fruits per plant.

So you are absolutely correct with your analysis.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:10pm On Jun 20, 2020
ideepaul:

I won't harvest at fully ripe stage to avoid stories that touch o grin grin grin. The cracks are minor and only happen after very heavy rains. Who wan do tomato philanthropy with my big fruits? shocked shocked shocked , I noticed something with people, they will pass-by and pretend not to see those fruits but I give them once, majority will be coming back everyday demanding (not even begging grin grin) for more fruits, especially ladies. Them think sey na love I wan use my tomato play sha grin grin grin
abeg no tear my Belle... you funny!
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:16pm On Jun 20, 2020
hargbolahan01:
I wish to go into tomato farming by August (rainy season) which type of seed will recommend... I'm planting for commercial purpose on two acres of land
my question will be, how many permanent staff do you have?do you know what is called game of number in TOMATO farming busines? For me,anyday anytime platinum!
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 3:27pm On Jun 20, 2020
Sterlingsolutns:
@jidestroud

Nice statistics

One of the difficult aspect of planning and projections is the dearth of reliable data. As simple as your numbers look, the embedded value is profound because it is based on an observable data. It shows that you are an organized agroprenuer

But are your numbers truly correct?

A big basket is about 40kg. Per your analysis, a plant will give about 5kg and therefore 8 plants will fill a basket

Tomatoes can be planted at a spacing of about 30cm by 80 cm so in an acre you have a population of about 16k so you can get approx 2k baskets from an acre

Tomatoes prices fluctuates from as high as 12k per basket to as low as 3k per basket so assuming a worst case scenario of 3k per basket you are looking at a gross revenue of 6m per acre or 1m per plot within a space of 90 days. This looks too good to be true to me

Please clarify

@ farmerakinloye6

Please, advise how many platinum tomatoes fruits will likely fill a crate

Thanks


sir, you want me to count tomato fruit one one shocked shocked shocked inside crate? Smile... workload will not permit me, don't know in future shaaa

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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by jidestroud(m): 4:22pm On Jun 20, 2020
@Sterlingsolutns

Yes, those where the exact figures with respect to Cobra 26 f1. Two out of the plants were used to collect the data from the plant's lifespan which was grown from March to about mid August. (5month plus or thereabout).

I do have data for the other varieties grown so far. grin. An habit I have developed over time.

Note: These were done as pilot projects though same feat could be replicated in commercial farms.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by bosagro23: 6:55pm On Jun 20, 2020
jidestroud:
@Sterlingsolutns

Yes, those where the exact figures with respect to Cobra 26 f1. Two out of the plants were used to collect the data from the plant's lifespan which was grown from March to about mid August. (5month plus or thereabout).

I do have data for the other varieties growso far. grin. An habit I have developed over time.

Note: These were done as pilot projects though same feat could be replicated in commercial farms.
whats your fertilization regime like if you wouldnt mind to share. 5kg/plant is good feat.
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 8:55pm On Jun 20, 2020
Sterlingsolutns:
@jidestroud

Nice statistics

One of the difficult aspect of planning and projections is the dearth of reliable data. As simple as your numbers look, the embedded value is profound because it is based on an observable data. It shows that you are an organized agroprenuer

But are your numbers truly correct?

A big basket is about 40kg. Per your analysis, a plant will give about 5kg and therefore 8 plants will fill a basket

Tomatoes can be planted at a spacing of about 30cm by 80 cm so in an acre you have a population of about 16k so you can get approx 2k baskets from an acre

Tomatoes prices fluctuates from as high as 12k per basket to as low as 3k per basket so assuming a worst case scenario of 3k per basket you are looking at a gross revenue of 6m per acre or 1m per plot within a space of 90 days. This looks too good to be true to me

Please clarify

@ farmerakinloye6

Please, advise how many platinum tomatoes fruits will likely fill a crate

Thanks


You can't have 85g average with cobra 26 commercially, it will be far below that! Even Padma with bigger fruits can't hit that figure, the heaviest Padma are 86+92g, but vast majority are far below 80g sir. When you take into consideration the losses due to several factors in a commercial tomato farm, then the best you can have is 1.5- 2.5kg in open field cultivation and it's extremely unlikely if you don't follow GAP and the God/luck factor depending on what you believe
Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by jidestroud(m): 9:51pm On Jun 20, 2020
ideepaul:

You can't have 85g average with cobra 26 commercially, it will be far below that! Even Padma with bigger fruits can't hit that figure, the heaviest Padma are 86+92g, but vast majority are far below 80g sir. When you take into consideration the losses due to several factors in a commercial tomato farm, then the best you can have is 1.5- 2.5kg in open field cultivation and it's extremely unlikely if you don't follow GAP and the God/luck factor depending on what you believe

Can't is a strong choice of word don't you think? grin. If it could be done, then it can be done. At least I learnt that from a once upon a time mentor here on this platform. He opened me up to possibilities and believe me, I got em results.

You asked for updates, and I will be dishing out some soon on my thread. You will be amazed at the figures I will be pushing out with verifiable proofs and evidences. Just stay tuned. grin.

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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 9:22am On Jun 21, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
Mistake that can cost you your farm: 1 fertilizer; know dosage,when and how to apply it. If you do mistake, your TOMATO will die. 2. Manure, if you do not allow your poultry littter,pig,cow e.g to compost and you use it fresh, your TOMATO will die. 3. Insecticide, if high dosage is use especially on young tomato, the result will be devastating. 4. Namatode, if you don't know history or you are using the farm land for the first time to cultivate TOMATO,it make sense to treat the soil. Have heard someone said "he lost 6000 stand to namatode." 5. Seedlings tray, after you sow seed inside seedlings tray spread them on soil (if the soil is fertile, your seedlings will thank you), if you spread them on concrete they will be dying/cripple one after other maybe 10-15days, because there root has shoot out and could not penetrate to search for nutrient/food.
Always look before you leap...more loading....TOMATO Farmer pls add your own and let make Nigeria Great!!
more loading... mine TOMATO farm is going...

Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by ideepaul: 11:54am On Jun 22, 2020
jidestroud:


Can't is a strong choice of word don't you think? grin. If it could be done, then it can be done. At least I learnt that from a once upon a time mentor here on this platform. He opened me up to possibilities and believe me, I got em results.

You asked for updates, and I will be dishing out some soon on my thread. You will be amazed at the figures I will be pushing out with verifiable proofs and evidences. Just stay tuned. grin.
So sorry if the "can't" sounds offensive, it wasn't my intention in any way. As for the average yield per plant, I would sincerely be willing to learn how you produce above 5kg per plant average as some plants won't yield, some will not yield above 20 fruits, some will not yield above 50 fruits from my experience, though many others will do very well. Cobra max fruit weight is 90g according the company and in commercial farms, they hardly get up 20% of the tomatoes to that weight, a vast majority are below 70g fruits.
Abeg no tell me make I hand pollinate again o grin grin shocked, the last time I tried that stuff flower by flower every single day, my neighbour thought I had mental problems or I was doing something fetish and reported to my dad grin grin shocked

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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Sterlingsolutns: 3:07pm On Jun 23, 2020
Lol It's easy now. Just get the weight of the crate filled with tomatoes, get the weight of an empty crate, subtract the weight of the empty crate from the one filled with tomatoes and that gives the net weight. Get the weight of a platinum fruit and divide by the net weight of the tomatoes in the crate. That will give an approximate number of fruits that can fill a crate

Thanks


Farmerakinloye6:
sir, you want me to count tomato fruit one one shocked shocked shocked inside crate? Smile... workload will not permit me, don't know in future shaaa

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Re: Step By Step Improve Way Of Cultivating TOMATOES by Farmerakinloye6(m): 1:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
Sterlingsolutns:
Lol It's easy now. Just get the weight of the crate filled with tomatoes, get the weight of an empty crate, subtract the weight of the empty crate from the one filled with tomatoes and that gives the net weight. Get the weight of a platinum fruit and divide by the net weight of the tomatoes in the crate. That will give an approximate number of fruits that can fill a crate

Thanks


okay, I understand. I will quote you when I have the number.

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