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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:26pm On Jun 23, 2020
You can't find the right religion because God doesn't exist, if a God wants his religion to be spread, it will happen before it happen, God doesn't fail.

By the way, why are these theist here, I thought they claim Christianity is not a religion.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by tintingz(m): 5:27pm On Jun 23, 2020
Dictionaries are created to find meaning for words which logically follows, it was never created for divinity but for meaning of words. Definitions are agreed upon consensus and widely used by everyone to find meaning for words.

The Bible is said to be divine book where horses fly and snake talk including donkey talking, I don't understand how Bible and dictionary becomes similar.

No one claim dictionaries are divine, the theists here are finding every ridiculous opportunity to drag atheists to their clownery and delusions to feel good at night.

If the Bible is man-made and a dictionary for you good for you, i hope you find the meaning of your delusion in that book.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:35pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:
Dictionaries are created to find meaning for words which logically follows, it was never created for divinity but for meaning of words. Definitions are agreed upon consensus and widely used by everyone to find meaning for words.

The Bible is said to be divine book where horses fly and snake talk including donkey talking, I don't understand how Bible and dictionary becomes similar.

No one claim dictionaries are divine, the theists here are finding every ridiculous opportunity to drag atheists to their clownery and delusions to feel good at night.

If the Bible is man-made and a dictionary for you good for you, i hope you find the meaning of your delusion in that book.

Summary

The dictionary is a book use in explaining concept not to prove said concept exist.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:
Dictionaries are created to find meaning for words which logically follows, it was never created for divinity but for meaning of words. Definitions are agreed upon consensus and widely used by everyone to find meaning for words.

The Bible is said to be divine book where horses fly and snake talk including donkey talking, I don't understand how Bible and dictionary becomes similar.

No one claim dictionaries are divine, the theists here are finding every ridiculous opportunity to drag atheists to their clownery and delusions to feel good at night.

If the Bible is man-made and a dictionary for you good for you, i hope you find the meaning of your delusion in that book.

According my the Bible "delusion" is when intelligent creatures come together as a group but after all said and done there is no benefit that results from their gathering!

So compare the definition of my Bible with that of your dictionary and have a rethink! smiley
I know your Dictionary will monopolize it as in saying it refers to one person, but let's use our own brains to judge.
We can see an ant roming up and down but since we don't know it's mission we will conclude it's just purposeless. But when ants come together as a group then we will see that they do benefit themselves despite their inability to speak.
So if tiny creatures like ants can come together and work out what benefits them, please how do you explain what happens to humans when we can't do better?

Rather humans keep inventing destructive devices daily to wipe themselves of the surface of the earth. And with all your dictionaries there is no single group of people who have come to reason amongst themselves to eradicate killings and stop building weapons, except those who trust in the Bible (JWs) that formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers and there is no single nation where they've not touched to bring out people to agree with this idea!

Please tell me sincerely speaking if the definition of your dictionary is of any benefit beside that of such a book! smiley
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by tintingz(m): 7:00pm On Jun 23, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Summary

The dictionary is a book use in explaining concept not to prove said concept exist.
Yes.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by tintingz(m): 7:06pm On Jun 23, 2020
Maximus69:


According my the Bible "delusion" is when intelligent creatures come together as a group but after all said and done there is no benefit that results from their gathering!

So compare the definition of my Bible with that of your dictionary and have a rethink! smiley
I know your Dictionary will monopolize it as in saying it refers to one person, but let's use our own brains to judge.
We can see an ant roming up and down but since we don't know it's mission we will conclude it's just purposeless. But when ants come together as a group then we will see that they do benefit themselves despite their inability to speak.
So if tiny creatures like ants can come together and work out what benefits them, please how do you explain what happens to humans when we can't do better?

Rather humans keep inventing destructive devices daily to wipe themselves of the surface of the earth. And with all your dictionaries there is no single group of people who have come to reason amongst themselves to eradicate killings and stop building weapons, except those who trust in the Bible (JWs) that formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers and there is no single nation where they've not touched to bring out people to agree with this idea!

Please tell me sincerely speaking if the definition of your dictionary is of any benefit beside that of such a book! smiley

k.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:


k.
K. Hi Five! smiley
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 7:57pm On Jun 23, 2020
I love how those two religious clowns up there keep dodging simple questions.
What is the standard definition of religion? You're beating around the bush.
Keep on exhibiting foolishness.
Clowns.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Xmuslim: 8:01pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:


k.
now you are talking grin grin

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by tintingz(m): 8:11pm On Jun 23, 2020
Xmuslim:
now you are talking grin grin

Some post doesn't deserve response. Lol

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:


Some post doesn't deserve response. Lol
Exactly! wink
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by DappaD: 8:17pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:
[s]I love how those two religious clowns up there keep dodging simple questions.[/s]
What is the standard definition of religion?
[s]You're beating around the bush.
Keep on exhibiting foolishness.
Clowns.[/s]
Are you asking the above with an honest heart to learn or you're just seeking to ridicule?
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by DappaD: 8:22pm On Jun 23, 2020
Maximus69:


According my the Bible "delusion" is when intelligent creatures come together as a group but after all said and done there is no benefit that results from their gathering!

So compare the definition of my Bible with that of your dictionary and have a rethink! smiley
I know your Dictionary will monopolize it as in saying it refers to one person, but let's use our own brains to judge.
We can see an ant roming up and down but since we don't know it's mission we will conclude it's just purposeless. But when ants come together as a group then we will see that they do benefit themselves despite their inability to speak.
So if tiny creatures like ants can come together and work out what benefits them, please how do you explain what happens to humans when we can't do better?

Rather humans keep inventing destructive devices daily to wipe themselves of the surface of the earth. And with all your dictionaries there is no single group of people who have come to reason amongst themselves to eradicate killings and stop building weapons , except those who trust in the Bible (JWs) that formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers and there is no single nation where they've not touched to bring out people to agree with this idea!

Please tell me sincerely speaking if the definition of your dictionary is of any benefit beside that of such a book! smiley

Abi oo with all their so-called knowledge they still can't eradicate the problems of mankind. Then peaceful people, Jehovah's Witnesses who try to make it known from the Bible that MAN cannot solve their problems no matter how hard they try, are tagged extremists/cult/terrorists
My brother I weak for all these people. undecided
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:29pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:
I love how those two religious clowns up there keep dodging simple questions.
What is the standard definition of religion? You're beating around the bush.
Keep on exhibiting foolishness.
Clowns.
Christianity is not a religion, it's a way of life, yet they rushed into this thread like hungry lions.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jun 23, 2020
DappaD:


Abi oo with all their so-called knowledge they still can't eradicate the problems of mankind. Then peaceful people, Jehovah's Witnesses who try to make it known from the Bible that MAN cannot solve their problems no matter how hard they try, are tagged extremists/cult/terrorists
My brother I weak for all these people. undecided

It's a free world my brother, let them say.
What i will not tolerate from them is when someone ask a thorough provoking question and they see a believer responding, they'll just pounce out of nowhere to start spewing gibberish.
Just imagine tintingz trying to impose the definition of his useless, hopeless and worthless dictionary on me when i'm responding to a honest question! smiley
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:31pm On Jun 23, 2020
DappaD:

Are you asking the above with an honest heart to learn or you're just seeking to ridicule?

What has my motive got to do with answering a simple question? undecided
Since you claim everyone belongs to a religion, even those who don't believe in a god, then give us the standard definition of religion.
Standard definition.
No need to run around in circles.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by IMAliyu(m): 8:33pm On Jun 23, 2020
LordReed:


Validity is always measured by conformity to reality or a set standard. For instance for your ID Card to be valid it needs to meet the standard set by who ever is the issuing authority. Another example is scientific theories, for a scientific to be valid its data must be observable, repeatable and predictable.

Nobody measures validity by the metrics you mentioned. That a lie produces positive effects does not make it truth.

Since no authority has stepped forward to introduce itself as the authority on religion, we are left with judging religion based on conformity with reality. So far no religion has come close to showing it conforms with reality.

My point wasn't that someone measures the validity of anything by the list I mentioned, but that we have no set standard and shouldn't there be a standard if we are going to be making bold claims to having exclusivity to the truth?
People will argue that their faith is the only valid one without having an unambiguous and practical way to prove it.
So like my analogy "even if you can't see a flame in front of you, you should be able to feel it's heat" Meaning if the perfect faith from an all good God exists we should be able to easily observe it.
Therefore I was willing to suspend looking at things for how logical or factual they were and judge it from the stand point of what effects and outcomes they have when people believe in them. We are in the realm of abstractions now.
So just like how fiat money works because people believe it has value and works when it doesn't really have anything physical to back it up (like in the former gold standard), except the unspoken agreement between the people that use that currency. Or how when we presuppose that every human life has value and everyone is born equal we do achieve a relatively peaceful, fair and self-improving society not perfect though (a positive outcome) compared to believing some lives are more valuable than others and you get an oppressive and corrupt society. Even if you can't demonstrate and prove that everyone is equal or why we should value everyone's life. Such a presupposition or belief has proven to give the best results for everyone anywhere. And so that's why I was willing to look at the people and society that believe and practice a religion instead. So like my previous point which was if such a religion exists wouldn't those people be the best of the best and shouldn't we have noticed it by now.
Though this still does not prove the validity of any religions at the end of the day as tin.tingz pointed out because the core premise of any religion is the still an unprovable claim such as reincarnation, god(s), eternal damnation etc, but this does look at the practicality of its philosophy when applied in the real world.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:33pm On Jun 23, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Christianity is not a religion, it's a way of life, yet they rushed into this thread like hungry lions.

Bro the thing tire me.
There's no length these guys won't go. grin
Now they're rejecting the dictionary.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by DappaD: 8:34pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:


What has my motive got to do with answering a simple question? undecided
Since you claim everyone belongs to a religion, even those who don't believe in a god, then give us the standard definition of religion.
Standard definition.
No need to run around in circles.
Motives have a lot to do in this regard, my good man.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:


What has my motive got to do with answering a simple question? undecided
Since you claim everyone belongs to a religion, even those who don't believe in a god, then give us the standard definition of religion.
Standard definition.
No need to run around in circles.

From someone you already concluded is a clown shey? cheesy

Why not hold onto your definition and leave the clowns to their definition? cheesy
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by DappaD: 8:35pm On Jun 23, 2020
Maximus69:


It's a free world my brother, let them say.
What i will not tolerate from them is when someone ask a thorough provoking question and they see a believer responding, they'll just pounce out of nowhere to start spewing gibberish.
Just imagine tintingz trying to impose the definition of his useless, hopeless and worthless dictionary on me when i'm responding to a honest question! smiley
Best to ignore such ones then.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jun 23, 2020
DappaD:

Motives have a lot to do in this regard, my good man.
They become intolerant when you ask them a question, but they'll be demanding response from you because you're supposed to be a Christian (child of God) cheesy
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:38pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:


Bro the thing tire me.
There's no length these guys won't go. grin
Now they're rejecting the dictionary.
We probably should add dictionary to this picture as prove of Atheism.

Religion: Atheism
Religious Book: Dictionary

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by CodeTemplar: 8:41pm On Jun 23, 2020
LordReed:


Validity is always measured by conformity to reality or a set standard. For instance for your ID Card to be valid it needs to meet the standard set by who ever is the issuing authority. Another example is scientific theories, for a scientific to be valid its data must be observable, repeatable and predictable.

Nobody measures validity by the metrics you mentioned. That a lie produces positive effects does not make it truth.

Since no authority has stepped forward to introduce itself as the authority on religion, we are left with judging religion based on conformity with reality. So far no religion has come close to showing it conforms with reality.
Where does your thought come from or what creates them and influences them?
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:42pm On Jun 23, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
We probably should add dictionary to this picture as prove of Atheism.

Religion: Atheism
Religious Book: Dictionary

grin grin grin
Yeah...
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:42pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:


What has my motive got to do with answering a simple question? undecided
Since you claim everyone belongs to a religion, even those who don't believe in a god, then give us the standard definition of religion.
Standard definition.
No need to run around in circles.
Did he ask you your motive before saying everyone except their religion is going to hell.

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Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jun 23, 2020
DappaD:

Best to ignore such ones then.

Most of their professors already know me, so whenever i see any of them come my way i know he has not learnt his lessons.

Who told tintingz now to stay clear of my zone? cheesy

When he tasted the heat, nobody told him to pack off my zone. If he feels like ridiculing religionists he can go and do so with Churchgoers not a servant of the true God, i'll turn his intestines with powerful reasoning! wink
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:44pm On Jun 23, 2020
Maximus69:


From someone you already concluded is a clown shey? cheesy

Why not hold onto your definition and leave the clowns to their definition? cheesy

As usual.
Avoid the question, run around in circles.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Xmuslim: 8:47pm On Jun 23, 2020
tintingz:


Some post doesn't deserve response. Lol
yes. I have started ignoriny that man
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:48pm On Jun 23, 2020
DappaD:

Motives have a lot to do in this regard, my good man.

Well, if you're not ready to answer, don't quote me.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by kingxsamz(m): 8:49pm On Jun 23, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Did he ask you your motive before saying everyone except their religion is going to hell.

grin
Now they need to know one's motive before answering questions.
These clowns.
Re: How Should One Find Out Which Religion Is The Truth? by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jun 23, 2020
kingxsamz:


As usual.
Avoid the question, run around in circles.

Are you ready for a discussion?

You'll ask, i'll ask, i'll answer you'll answer.

There is no criminal here, i'm not facing a judicial panel.

If you want me to answer your questions you too much be willing to answer mine.

That's what i call mature discussions Sir! wink

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