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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
It is considered in that league not because of its nominal strength but the sheer variety of what it can purchase in its locale.
This is why it is listed alongside major currencies like USD,EUR,etc...not necessarily strength.
I can go to Japan with yen and buy Caterpillar,cars,truck,medicine,infact everything.
I can't do that with Kuwait dinar without passing through an intermediary currency.
Strength doesn't matter,rather what the economy can offer is what makes a currency valuable.

Thank you very much


Someone that gets it

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:32pm On Jun 24, 2020
A japanese can live in Japan without ever seeing or knowing the price of dollars and will be very comfortable till kingdom come.
If USD varnishes today maybe because somehow Taliban manages to bomb the entire USA,the japanese wouldn't even notice because they can get almost all they want locally,with or without dollars.
Their currency might be triple digits when compared with USD,but what matters is what it can buy without an intermediary currency playing a part in the littlest process to sell that produce.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 6:35pm On Jun 24, 2020
Maybe I really do not get it and I am not ashamed to ask,
1) What parameters was used by you in saying Jpy is one of the weakest in the world?
2) What are the first 5 based on (1) and last (5)
3) Where does a Country like Lebanon stand in this regards?

DexterousOne:


Thank you very much


Someone that gets it

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 6:37pm On Jun 24, 2020
All these things you listed here are some of the strengths that I know JPY has, so that is why I am curious to know how it is one of the weakest in the world.
It is not as strong as the USD I know but how is it one of the weakest in the world is my own personal concern. Canadian dollar is not as strong as the USD yet you cannot claim it to be a weak currency.

Theconglomerate:
A japanese can live in Japan without ever seeing or knowing the price of dollars and will be very comfortable till kingdom come.
If USD varnishes today maybe because somehow Taliban manages to bomb the entire USA,the japanese wouldn't even notice because they can get almost all they want locally,with or without dollars.
Their currency might be triple digits when compared with USD,but what matters is what it can buy without an intermediary currency playing a part in the littlest process to sell that produce.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:40pm On Jun 24, 2020
A person in the far east like say Indonesia,Taiwan,Philippines etc..will pick the yen 100 times before the dollar because all what he might need to buy to be comfortable in life is found in japan and he will pay cheaper logistics to bring it to his country rather than buying from America with dollars.
Does that mean the person is stupid or should have picked the USD instead?No
This is what will soon happen to all these shitholes surrounding Nigeria the moment we fix infrastructure,start producing fuel and free up the markets with little government political hindrances.
When some of you compare Ghana to Nigeria,I honestly think you are mad,no offense.
This is not patriotism but simple reality.
Na because of steady light abi wetin undecided

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 6:42pm On Jun 24, 2020
ojesymsym:
Maybe I really do not get it and I am not ashamed to ask,
1) What parameters was used by you in saying Jpy is one of the weakest in the world?
2) What are the first 5 based on (1) and last (5)
3) Where does a Country like Lebanon stand in this regards?


JPY is the 4th strongest in the world.


Lol! He doesn’t understand what he is saying. The fact that he said JPY was weak, I corrected him, he came back and said JPY “used” to be weak...

Shows he doesn’t understand what he is saying. Theconglomerate has not said anything to validate his point about “JPY” being weak.

Strength of a currency is not measured like that. If it was like that, CNY won’t be among the top.

The equation is not X = 2Y.

The question is, is (x1 + x2 + x3 +.....) = 2(y1 + y2 + y3 +....) ?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:43pm On Jun 24, 2020
ojesymsym:
All these things you listed here are some of the strengths that I know JPY has, so that is why I am curious to know how it is one of the weakest in the world.
It is not as strong as the USD I know but how is it one of the weakest in the world is my own personal concern. Canadian dollar is not as strong as the USD yet you cannot claim it to be a weak currency.

It is weak nominally because the japanese keep devaluing it so that una go come buy their market na cheesy
Something you all refuse.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:48pm On Jun 24, 2020
GonFreecss1:


JPY is the 4th strongest in the world.


Lol! He doesn’t understand what he is saying. The fact that he said JPY was weak, I corrected him, he came back and said JPY “used” to be weak...

Shows he doesn’t understand what he is saying. Theconglomerate has not said anything to validate his point about “JPY” being weak.

Strength of a currency is not measured like that. If it was like that, CNY won’t be among the top.

The equation is not X = 2Y.

The question is, is (x1 + x2 + x3 +.....) = 2(y1 + y2 + y3 +....) ?


I dont understand what I am saying?


Hahahahahahaa

Lmao cheesy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:49pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
It is weak nominally because the japanese keep devaluing it so that una go come buy their market na cheesy
Something you all refuse.


Thank you very much

I'm so glad someone here gets what I have been trying to say
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:51pm On Jun 24, 2020
DexterousOne:



Thank you very much

I'm so glad someone here gets what I have been trying to say
Of course,very weak.
100 USD=10K+ Yen...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:52pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
It is weak nominally because the japanese keep devaluing it so that una go come buy their market na cheesy
Something you all refuse.


In the basket of 8
JPY is the weakest (nominally)


The USD, EUR, GBP CHF CAD AUD and the last one ALL exchange more than the JPY


I have been trying to say this

They are not reading to get me grin grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:53pm On Jun 24, 2020
DexterousOne:



In the basket of 8
JPY is the weakest (nominally)


The USD, EUR, GBP CHF CAD AUD and the last one ALL exchange more than the JPY


I have been trying to say this

They are not reading to get me grin grin




whew...

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:54pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
Of course,very weak.
1 USD=10K+ Yen...


Actually if we add the two decimal points

Its 100 and something point something

You get me?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
whew...

Okay


That's more like it

The two decimal points were added
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 6:58pm On Jun 24, 2020
If you had even said this bolded, I for non get the headace when you give me by saying the weakest in the world. If you say, it is the weakest among the 8 majors, no wahala but in the world was too much for me to handle.

Next time try and be very clear for some of us wen go night skool, e de take us sometime to understand big grammar.
DexterousOne:



In the basket of 8
JPY is the weakest (nominally)



The USD, EUR, GBP CHF CAD AUD and the last one ALL exchange more than the JPY


I have been trying to say this

They are not reading to get me grin grin




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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 6:59pm On Jun 24, 2020
Please explain the bolded because the very next image you put out there says 106 yen.
Theconglomerate:
Of course,very weak.
1 USD=10K+ Yen...
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:59pm On Jun 24, 2020
ojesymsym:
Please explain the bolded because the very next image you put out there says 106 yen.

Two decimal points
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 7:00pm On Jun 24, 2020
ojesymsym:
Please explain the bolded because the very next image you put out there says 106 yen.
100USD I meant.
Typo
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 7:00pm On Jun 24, 2020
What does that mean sir?
DexterousOne:


Two decimal points
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 7:04pm On Jun 24, 2020
invariably, $1 = $100+ (106.80yen)
It may interest you to also not that the value has largely been like that since 1986
Theconglomerate:
100USD I meant.
Typo
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 7:14pm On Jun 24, 2020
ojesymsym:
invariably, $1 = $100+ (106.80yen)
It may interest you to also not that the value has largely been like that since 1986
It may also interest you to know that they found the true value of the yen to usd in 1986 undecided
Why would you devalue when you have everything going on great for you and no pressures or expenditures to preserve your currency?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 7:16pm On Jun 24, 2020
An interesting way to estimate true exchange rate. Take for example samsung galaxy s10 plus, this phone should have the same functionality anywhere and so same value irrespective of location right?

It costs about $600 on Amazon and #315,000 on Jumia. If I divide 315,000 by 600 I get about 525. If I am to neglect transportation cost differences I can say that $1 is worth about #525.

Anyway, The Economist did same with McDonald's burgers which they called Big Mac Index.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 7:24pm On Jun 24, 2020
ositadima1:
An interesting way to estimate true exchange rate. Take for example samsung galaxy s10 plus, this phone should have the same functionality anywhere and so same value irrespective of location right?

It costs about $600 on Amazon and #315,000 on Jumia. If I divide 315,000 by 600 I get about 525. If I am to neglect transportation cost differences I can say that $1 is worth about #525.

Anyway, The Economist did same with McDonald's burgers which they called Big Mac Index.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
Shey you now see why I said naira is overvalued and artificial na.
It is one thing that is drawing this country back.
Everyone keeps buying things at the government's expense.
If we can eliminate stealing and review the naira as Emefiele is doing currently,Nigeria will boom!
We will have so much local and foreign reserves to fix all we need to fix in this country I swear.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 7:28pm On Jun 24, 2020
Regarding the yen vs usd comparison, I think that exchange rate alone does not measure wellbeing of the economy.

You also need to factor average earnings of the citizens of that country. A cleaner in Japan can buy a new Toyota sedan after saving seriously for 3 to 4 years, same in the USA.

A cleaner in Nigeria cant do that in the next 15 years.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 7:34pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
Shey you now see why I said naira is overvalued and artificial na.
It is one thing that is drawing this country back.
Everyone keeps buying things at the government's expense.
If we can eliminate stealing and review the naira as Emefiele is doing currently,Nigeria will boom!
We will have so much local and foreign reserves to fix all we need to fix in this country I swear.

So much conflict in ur statements. Is it one thing or two things. How many things?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 7:35pm On Jun 24, 2020
ositadima1:


So much conflict in ur statements. Is it one thing or two things. How many things?

How so?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 8:08pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
A person in the far east like say Indonesia,Taiwan,Philippines etc..will pick the yen 100 times before the dollar because all what he might need to buy to be comfortable in life is found in japan and he will pay cheaper logistics to bring it to his country rather than buying from America with dollars.
Does that mean the person is stupid or should have picked the USD instead?No
This is what will soon happen to all these shitholes surrounding Nigeria the moment we fix infrastructure,start producing fuel and free up the markets with little government political hindrances.
When some of you compare Ghana to Nigeria,I honestly think you are mad,no offense.
This is not patriotism but simple reality.
Na because of steady light abi wetin undecided

No be because of light o. Na the $1 to 5.8 GHS dey deceive them because Nigeria own is $1 to N450 whereas dem comot plenty zeroes 13 years ago. grin cheesy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 8:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
NL1960:


No be because of light o. Na the $1 to 5.8 GHS dey deceive them because Nigeria own is $1 to N450 whereas dem comot plenty zeroes 13 years ago. grin cheesy

That's not even the issue


On a nominal basis
GHS is bigger


But I'll give you two practical examples

There is the bread I like to buy whenever I am in Ghana

I really like it for the unique taste

That bread costs 5.5 GHS the last time I bought it.



In Nigeria
That bread will not sell above 3.6.
3.6 is even too much



The yoghurt i like to take costs me 12/14 GHS depending on where I buy it

In Nigeria
The same yoghurt will cost me the naira equivalent of say 7 cedis undecided


I have been trying to make this point clear
But some here are not getting me


The exchange rate (nominal) does not mean much

And cannot be used to gauge the health of an economy in isolation

That is why I brought the Japanese Yen example


Ghana Cedis and South African rand is stronger than the JPY

But Japan as an economy big pass the entire continent


GBP is higher nominally than USD

But I'll rather hold USD than GBP


So the person who brought the currency argument to discredit my choice of choosing to rather invest in Ghana than Nigeria is using the wrong metric

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 9:16pm On Jun 24, 2020
Theconglomerate:
It may also interest you to know that they found the true value of the yen to usd in 1986 undecided
Why would you devalue when you have everything going on great for you and no pressures or expenditures to preserve your currency?

But you also said this some threads ago.

“It is weak nominally because the japanese keep devaluing it so that una go come buy their market na cheesy
Something you all refuse.“
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 9:17pm On Jun 24, 2020
DexterousOne:


I dont understand what I am saying?


Hahahahahahaa

Lmao cheesy

Do I need to quote your statements?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 9:23pm On Jun 24, 2020
DexterousOne:



In the basket of 8
JPY is the weakest (nominally)


The USD, EUR, GBP CHF CAD AUD and the last one ALL exchange more than the JPY


I have been trying to say this

They are not reading to get me grin grin





You can use the words “exchange more for” not “weak”

A government devaluing a currency that has more 000’s in circulation doesn’t make it weak relative to another it’s actually stronger than.

The Ghanian currency might exchange for more naira doesn’t make it “weak”.

Nestle exchanging for more Dangote doesn’t make Dangote with lesser value.

And if you still don’t get it, take a look at the arrangement of “crypt0” on coin market cap.

Don’t use “Nominal value” to cover your blunder.

Exchanging for more doesn’t mean weaker.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 9:26pm On Jun 24, 2020
GonFreecss1:


You can use the words “exchange more for” not “weak”

A government devaluing a currency that has more 000’s in circulation doesn’t make it weak relative to another it’s actually stronger than.

The Ghanian currency might exchange for more naira doesn’t make it “weak”.

Nestle exchanging for more Dangote doesn’t make Dangote with lesser value.

And if you still don’t get it, take a look at the arrangement of “crypt0” on coin market cap.

Don’t use “Nominal value” to cover your blunder.
Exchanging for more doesn’t mean weaker.




Hahahahahahahahahahaha grin grin D


Lmao tongue grin tongue

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