₦airaland Forum

Jman06:
Exactly! You just said it all.

Oshiomole is not wise. He shouldn't have started this war with Obaseki in the first place. He should have learnt from other past governors and allowed Obaseki run his government.

Even as the battle with Obaseki was raging, many people intervened, including Buhari himself but Oshiomole refused to listen!
In politics and in life generally, there are times when one needs to stoop to conquer.

Politics is not always by mouth, intelligence is very important!

Agboriotejoye:
You are solidly on point. This is what I've been trying to make Tinubu goons understand. Buhari does not support godfatherism. If not, he'll be a godfather in the north. He only allowed the Ambode own slip because
1. Ambode was weak
2. He didn't want to rock the boat for his own sake.
But I was sure it will come back to bite Tinubu. People like Buhari who don't talk much are very difficult to deal with. Whatever little they say is their mindset which is usually hard to change. Coupled with being Fulani and a retired soldier makes it all the more serious.

OROSUNBOLB:
What do you think will happen to APC if another northerner is chosen as its flagbearer for 2023 presidential election ? APC can't afford to pick another northerner after Buhari. Take it or leave it, Buhari would prefer to handover to another northerner and in fact,would work towards that. Buhari would rather work covertly for an opposition northern candidate than to work for any southern APC candidate. APC will disintegrate considerably before 2023 and that's because it will be engineered to do so !

Believe it or not, nobody from the north will probe or hound (to borrow your word) Buhari after 2023. So my question to you is this : will the APC President be a Northerner or a Southerner ?

Dansuqi:
How did he betray the south? S it by force to support someone?

sarris:
So also it is not by force that things should go his way in order to actualize his 2023 political ambition. Whoever the North brings in 2023, SE and SS supports no matter the party.

Dansuqi:
Let's wait till then

smallsmall:
@Agboriotejoye and @Dansuqi
You guys should Chill and continue the civil discuss.
Nothing is gained by using insults.
Adult discussion please.

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
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Shut up Ur rotten mouth.

Your god thieefnubuu is d common problem of Southern Nigeria if you don't know. Very selfish bastard! Already strategizing for power grab without any atom of fairness conscience to SE that has not had a shot. The same fool teamed up with North to grab power from a South South man just bc of VP position.

Thunder scatter Thieefnubuu rotten mouth in Bourdillon

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
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Shut up Ur rotten mouth.

Your god thieefnubuu is d common problem of Southern Nigeria if you don't know. Very selfish bastard! Already strategizing for power grab without any atom of fairness conscience to SE that has not had a shot. The same fool teamed up with North to grab power from a South South man just bc of VP position.

Thunder scatter Thieefnubuu rotten mouth in Bourdillon

Eboski:
You have said it all, All those Tinubu zombies saying Oshiomhole will give Obaseki Ambode treatment, we told them Edo isn't Lagos, I am from Edo state we joined hands with Oshiomhole to killed godfatherism in Edo state, Today the same Oshiomhole turnaround want to be godfather himself, we are happy agberos like Kabaka have be sideline, the same Oshiomhole is planning to bring them back to the street

Judolisco:
Buhari is not a politician... In saner climes he wouldn't have been president

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
[[s]quote author=smallsmall post=91036941]

I wont go into the gutter with you, that is where you were born and that is where you will live and die.
When you have something intelligent to say, l will oblige you my attention.
I want to discuss with intelligent people, people who have something intelligent to say, not some nitwit. [/s]

My father belongs to the gutter and is a renowned nitwit.

When he wakes up I will tell him that.

Keep showing that you are raised by Coyottes!
If you see anyone running to abuse his own father, know that he belongs to the gutter.
Continue, we know your type, l wont come down to your gutter level, . NumSkull

7lives:
Do sleep at all?, Tinubu morning afternoon and night.
Don't kill yourself BAT doesn't even know you exist, you go just die for nothing.

osazsky:
Buhari is the best thing that happened to us....he always obeys the first court order [/b]unlike the miscreant called Tinubu who imposed o treck on lagosians ....this is a lesson to all yoruba slave always stand and fight for ur right even in marriage when ur parents insist over thier dead body..we the benins dont give a fuckkkk nobody get my remote..check all great men in the bible they all fought for thier right even hezekiah didn't accept God terms...God had to extend his life my 15 years I hope yoruba slaves learn from this..follow follow assss lickers

Yes, Buhari always obey Court Order, [b]like releasing Dansuki, in the last four years, as ordered by the Courts!

smallsmall:
I am not about to change your belief! I am just trying to 'reason with you'.
Who are the "Their" in your statement? [color=#990000]Politicians? But you have that everywhere and they determine, whether you like/accept it or not, your future, through state policies that affect everyone.[/color]

I am not against Politicians disagreeing, infact, the better.
What l am saying is how we should not allow one region (North) to keep using such disagreement to manipulate the Southern Region and Middle belt, to the advantage of the North and impoverishment of the South./Middle Belt.

As a Southerner, you will agree with me that this is a worthy cause or are you happy with the way Southern Nigeria has been reduced to "supplier" of wealth, for the development of the North ONLY?

Go and take a record of all the Roads and Rails that Buhari approved in the last four years, 95% of those tha have been completed are in the North, those in the South are either not funded properly or abandonned. is that also part of your happiness?

7lives:
North has never been a problem go and read Nigeria history very well.
What happened was that some people in the south here, are always trying to subjugate their neighbors even when there's no need for that, and naturally those who don't want to be subjugated will say NO.
When they fail they run to the North, so how is this the fault of the north?.
The same thing they tried with their neighbors they tried with the north and the whole world knows how it all ended.
As the matter dey now I don't particularly mind a northern president, I've lived through it, I survived and even prospered, so what the heck?.

Decisions, important ones, should be based on LOGIC, not EMOTIONS.
See ehn, who do man, do himself!

osazsky:
Buhari is the best thing that happened to us....he always obeys the first court order unlike the miscreant called Tinubu who imposed o treck on lagosians ....this is a lesson to all yoruba slave always stand and fight for ur right even in marriage when ur parents insist over thier dead body..we the benins dont give a fuckkkk nobody get my remote..check all great men in the bible they all fought for thier right even hezekiah didn't accept God terms...God had to extend his life my 15 years I hope yoruba slaves learn from this..follow follow assss lickers

smallsmall:
This is what l have been trying to make guys pay attention to, in the last one year!
From When Buhari refused to listen to Benue Gov Orthom (who was then in APC) about Buahri's Fulani Herdsmen killing his people, to allowing the fight between Oyegun Vs. Oshiomole, Okorocha Vs. Oshiomole, sacking of the VP Aides from Aso Rock by tha evil-dead Abba Kyari, Ogun State Amosu Vs. Dapo Abiodun/APC and many, many more issues that he could have nipped in the bud......but he feigned ignorance!

Buhari allowed the cracks in APC to fester and develop into what it is today.
The question is WHY?
and the ANSWER is simple: The agreement in the APC was for the North to produce the President for the first eight years (Buhari, hence his re-election) and for the South to produce the President for the next Eight years in 2023.
The North has taken its own eight years and Buhari wants to renege on that agreement without saying so openly so he rather wants the platform for the South ot achieve their own Eight years, to disintegrate through Party Crisis, so that when the PDP presents a Northern candidate, they will coalesce behind such Northerner and the North will have another 8yrs.

We should all see through the deciet of that Satanic man in Aso Rock, that is why he chose this long, waited and waited, to side with Gaidom, so that the APC will not have the time to correct any fall out or mistake that may have occurred.

jamalnation:
it is finished Tinubu/Oshiobaba FC 1 vs 3 Giadom/Elrufai/Ameachi United

7lives:
North has never been a problem go and read Nigeria history very well.
What happened was that some people in the south here, are always trying to subjugate their neighbors even when there's no need for that, and naturally those who don't want to be subjugated will say NO.
When they fail they run to the North, so how is this the fault of the north?.
The same thing they tried with their neighbors they tried with the north and the whole world knows how it all ended.
As the matter dey now I don't particularly mind a northern president, I've lived through it, I survived and even prospered, so what the heck?.

KAHBOOM:
Chai

Walahi north sabi play politics.They are very smart..See as they clipped tinubus wings like a chicken and caged osho like a circus monkey.

when tinubu and osho were busy arm twisting party members to be loyal to them for there selfish interest,trying to out smart the north thinking they are in control of Nwc..northerners were acting dumb.Now they are all out for them.

Please somebody should go to bordillioun or contact remi to hide any sniper in the building.


One tin will be going on in tinubus mind right now..He will be like,wetin make me carry my local might go Edo state go support osho.I for dey neutral.

While osho will be like..who send me go fight obaseki now.I for leave am to do him 4+4 in peace.
If he wants to make love to his oyibo wife this night and remembers the mess he is in,,his john Thomas will fall down flat

smallsmall:
It is not just abot YOU, not about me, me and myself!
We are talking about the "collective" Southern Nigeria and Middle Belt.
Do you know why Mazi Nnamdi Kanu was fighting and his house was destroyed and his family was houded?
Do you know who gave the order for that?
Do you know why the military is permanently in the South East and doing operation Crocodile Smile, endlessly, when there is hundreds of Boko Haram and bandits to be fought?
If you do, please tell me.
Decisions, important ones, should be based on LOGIC, not EMOTIONS.
See ehn, who do man, do himself!

sujexy:
Oga this your southern Nigeria story is dead on arrival!!!!!!!

It's now you are remembering southern Nigeria?

we know who you are....Awon Tinubu...

comot for road make we see road Jareh!

OROSUNBOLB:
Yoruba people have never been the problem. Ironically, those who caused all the 'wahala' are the ones playing the victim's cards today !

This is how it all started :

THE TRUTH ABOUT NIGERIA AND THE CONFUSION WE ARE IN TODAY

Who are the real traitors who brought us where we are today?

Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance.

Do you know that when Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria;

Chief of Army Staff was from SE
Chief of Naval Staff was from SE
IG of Police was from SE
Chief of Defence Staff was from SE
Internal Affairs Minister SE
External Affairs Minister SE
Education Minister South SE
Many other key ministries to SE
Parliament President SE
Unilag VC from SE
The University of Ibadan VC from SE
North resisted same at ABU!

Still, there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!!

Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed.

Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it!

We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. There is a tendency to think those are truths and facts.

*What follows are documented facts that can be cross-checked for authenticity!"*

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

*“Prof. Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government because his brother Aguiyi Ironsi was the head of state then. Today, he is shouting restructuring that he helped to destroy. We won’t forget.”*.

WHAT BIAFRANS WILL NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT THE REAL CAUSE OF THEIR WOES IN NIGERIA TODAY:

The Igbo man is known to enjoy blaming the Hausa fulanis, Yorubas and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Luggard/Britain for their seeming claim of being in third class citizen status in Nigeria. In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present in a half-baked and highly selective manner which cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgement were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but the entire Nigeria nation. The story told in the post above is one of such selective and distorted accounts of history which the average Igbo man is fond of narrating.

However, the national archives have the complete and unedited history of Nigeria regarding the political events beginning way back from even before 1914. I will therefore proceed to furnish my readers with the complete story for all to read and be endowed with enough facts so as to judge and act from an informed position.

Shortly after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it started getting clear that the country was bound to fail as the amalgamation in question was done with colonial fiat without the consent and consensus of the different tribes which were over 300. This prompted the political leaders to start asking for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the future danger which the forced amalgamation portended.

To that end, Ahmadu Bello, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944 described the amalgamation as "The mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country".
Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and Western minorities, described Nigeria as a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation. Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe.

But Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the Unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.

After moving the motion for independece in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union if it feels marginalized in future. According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance. But Azikiwe, speaking on behalf of Igbos, rose against him in the parliament and labelled him an agent of disunity, and enemy of Nigeria. At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they didn't stop proposing secession clause for the future constitution. While Azikiwe did all these, Igbos cheered and urged him on because they felt the future Nigeria was theirs to dominate and lord it over every other tribe

Before independece, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe co-operated with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the secession clause, Nigeria perhaps would not have been this misgoverned.

For those in doubt, here is a link of one of the numerous instances in which Nnamdi Azikiwe fought against the secession clause proposal for the future Nigeria constitution.

It should be noted that there were many Igbo members of the parliament in which Azikiwe fought against Awolowo's secession clause proposal in the link above, but not a single one of them rose against Azikiwe or condemned him.

Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe. (The first Nigerian tribe to produce a university graduate is the Binis). As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here are some quotes:

"From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).

"It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of time"... Oscar Onyeamma. (1949). Anascopeterson: As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria. With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.

But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.

Anascopeterson: While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a far away land.
Anascopeterson: When opinions became unanimous that Lord Luggard and his government must be forced out of Nigeria and indeed the whole of Africa, it was still the Igbos that frustrated the attempts. Here is how:

In 1948, Anthony Enahoro organized an anti-colonization symposium in Lagos for which Azikiwe and some other Igbos had agreed to deliver the keynote address. But when the D-day came, Azikiwe was nowhere to be found as he deliberately disappeared into thin air for fear of being arrested and dealt with by Lord Luggard. Anthony Enahoro then quickly replaced Azikiwe with another person who did the job improptu but perfectly well as he lambasted and lampooned Lord Luggard and the British Government. However, the British soldiers invaded the symposium venue, arrested the speaker and Enahoro and jailed them for treasonable felony. Ironically, the next day Azikiwe came out of hiding and granted a radio interview in which he accused Enahoro and the other organizers of suffering from youthful exhuberance.

On regaining his freedom few weeks later and being told of Azikiwe's radio interview, Enahoro resigned from his post as Editor of Azikiwe's newspaper - The West African Pilot.

Then he wrote a book titled "Nnamdi Azikiwe: Sinner of Saint". After launching the book, Enahoro left Azikiwe's party - the NCNC, and moved over to Awolowo's Action Group.

Anascopeterson: The first military coup in Nigeria was carried out by majority of Igbo army officers. That was the coup that truncated democracy just six years post Independence and led to a succession of coups which put the country on the reverse gear for 33 years.

Through that first coup, those Igbo army officers who accused the politicians and government of the day of monumental corruption, killed the political leaders of the Northern, Western and Midwestern Regions but allowed all Igbo political figures to escape by tipping them off prior to the D-Day. In addition to the killing of political figures, they also killed a total of 27 innocent high ranking military officers from every region except their Eastern Region.

In the end an Igbo man called Aguiyi Ironsi, who was supposed to have been killed alongside other military officers, ended up becoming the new military ruler of Nigeria. Rather than immediately arrest and punish the coup plotters, he kept them in detention where they were treated as heroes. This was actually what sowed the seed for the eventual Biafra War. On the 23rd of February 1966 (i.e. a month and 8 days after the first coup porpularly but wrongly known as Nzeogwu coup, an Ijaw born Army officer called Isaac Adaka Boro who hailed from Kaima town of present Bayelsa State, declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic in an attempt to free his Ijaw people from the monumental marginalization they had been suffering under Igbos in the old Eastern Region.
But Aguiyi Ironsi immediately ordered Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to arrest him and hand him over to the military high command under him in Lagos. Ojukwu went all out against Isaac Adaka Boro with federal military might and within 12 fighting days killed 150 Isaac Boro's soldiers, arrested him, stripped him naked, and had him driven to Lagos and handed to Ironsi who immediately charged him to court and within two months secured against him a conviction of treasonable felony for which he was sentenced to death by hanging fixed for December that year by the Supreme Court. His 'crime' was that he declared secession of The Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria. Meanwhile the Igbo coupists who shed innocent blood of other tribes and even sprayed bullets into the bellies of the pregnant wives of Ahmadu Bello and Brigadier Shodeinde were not charged to court or arraigned before any military tribunal.

Isaac Adaka Boro was in detention waiting for December to come for him to join his ancestors. But God so kind, a revenge coup happened on July 29 by Northern soldiers and Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Gowon took over and released Isaac Adaka Boro unconditionally, reinstated him into the Army with his previous rank.

Then on May 30, 1967, Ojukwu too declared secession of Biafra Republic from Nigeria and without consulting or apologising to Isaac Boro, drew a Biafra map which included the very areas that made up Isaac Adaka Boro's earlier declared Niger Delta Republic for which he fought against him and killed his soldiers. Seeing such level of arrogance in Ojukwu, Isaac Boro asked Gowon to provide arms for him to crush Biafra by fighting on the Nigerian side in vengeance for Ojukwu's frustration of his own secession declaration 15 months earlier.
Isaac Boro, as an Ijaw man conversant with the waterways, led the Nigeria Army through the coastal areas into Igboland to finish off thousands of Ojukwu's soldiers thus leading to the crushing defeat of Biafra. But today, Igbos accuse Ijaws of betraying them in the war. But from the facts as above, who really betrayed the other in all honesty? Be the judge. Why Gowon fought against Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra was as follows:

After Ironsi and Ojukwu successfully crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration, Ironsi immediately proceeded to promulgate the Anti-secession Decree which made the mere mention of secession from Nigeria punishable with death by hanging. Ojukwu openly supported and endorsed the decree despite disapproval of it by the general public. So when Ojukwu later declared Biafra secession, he was reminded of the Anti-secession Decree made by him and his brother Ironsi.

Deadly Truth: Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest of Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbos.

First and foremost Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and unelected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle. Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected by their federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people. But in going to Aburi the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all sidelined for soldiers to hijack the process. Where on earth do soldiers make laws for the people? Rather, the civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord therefore had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality which shouldn't have been allowed to stand.

Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference. Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and everyone accepted it.

In that constitution, Nigerians all agreed that on no account shall the military take over power. It was also clearly stated in it that ammendments to it could be done by only democratically elected representatives.

That constitution was the first ever agreement between all Nigerians. On the day of his inauguration as the Army GoC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise. But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution we all agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive Decrees, and ended up dismantling the federalism and resource control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft. That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dishonoring of sacred agreement. That was how Igbos breached the first agreement, all Nigerians, ever all mutually consented to, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.

So Aburi Accord was only treated exactly the same way Igbos treated the Independence constitution agreement.
Anascopeterson: Obasanjo removed history from the school curriculum hence the reason why many of what we know of the eventualities in Biafra war were altered to suite their narratives.

mamotalk:
I don't know o. my own be say Giadom don talk say APC Edo primary na child play, which INEC and general public must not take serious.

Frankiss44:
The court

Decibel:
A. Court of competent jurisdiction made him acting chairman.

smallsmall:
Again, l ask: What alternative solution can you profer, that is based on LOGIC and not EMOTIONS of Hatred and bitterness, against same Southerners like yourself?

Again, l repeat: This is not about Tinubu or just about Igbos or just Yorubas or just SE, SS,SW or Middle Belt, this is about Southern Nigerians
Dont cut off your Nose, just because you Hate your Face.......l have no problem with 'you' hating your own face but ask yourself if it is worth it, to cut-off your nose, just to show how much you hate your face.

This is an 'emergency period'! WISDOM IS PROFITABLE.
When the house is urning, that is not the time to be asking how the fire started...... you put out the fire first and later, you begin to investigate how the fire started.

Those who have ears, let them hear.
Las las, "Who do man, do himself"!