ContractKiller:
It is said by some Quran-only Muslims that Islam in its purest and most morally upright form can only be gleaned from the pages of the Quran.

Those who make this claim however have obviously not read the Our'an. Let's look at the priority that some fundamental aspects of Islam are given in the Qur'an:


Muslims should pray five times a day: 

0 verses in the Qur'an 

Muslims should say the Shahada:

"There is no God but Allah and Muhammad the Messenger of Allah": 

0 verses in the Qur'an 

Muslims should circle the Kaaba and kiss the stone imbedded in it when on pilgrimage to Mecca: 

0 verses in the Qur'an 

Muslims have to turn to other sources (most notably the ahadith or traditions) for these basic aspects of practicing islam.

When it come to sex with captured women however, the Qur'an cannot be more explicit:

Muslims have the right to have sex with women they captured in battle? Four verses in the Qur'an!


Surah 23: 6, Surah 4: 24, 

Surah 70 :29 and 

Surah 8:69


These verses all make it clear that captured women are fair game. 

For example, "Muslim men are those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess, - for (then) they are not to be blamed (Qur'an 10:29). 

By emphasizing the enslavement and rape of women, ISIS and Boko Haram terrorists are merely following the teachings of their book. A book that places a higher priority on assuring them that they can have sex with female slaves than it does on teaching them how to pray.

haekymbahd:

Allah SWT said:

قَدْ أَفْلَحَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ
"Certainly will the believers have succeeded:"
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 1)

الَّذِينَ هُمْ فِى صَلَاتِهِمْ خٰشِعُونَ
"They who are during their prayer humbly submissive"
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 2)

وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ عَنِ اللَّغْوِ مُعْرِضُونَ
"And they who turn away from ill speech"
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 3)

وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِلزَّكٰوةِ فٰعِلُونَ
"And they who are observant of zakah"
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 4)

وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حٰفِظُونَ
"And they who guard their private parts"
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 5)

إِلَّا عَلٰىٓ أَزْوٰجِهِمْ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمٰنُهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ غَيْرُ مَلُومِينَ
"except from their spouses, that is, to their spouses, and what [slaves] their right hands possess, that is, concubines, for then they are not blameworthy, in having sexual intercourse with them."
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 6)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Allah is not is support of capturing slaves but wants muslims to free them

Allah SWT said:

لَّيْسَ الْبِرَّ أَنْ تُوَلُّوا وُجُوهَكُمْ قِبَلَ الْمَشْرِقِ وَالْمَغْرِبِ وَلٰكِنَّ الْبِرَّ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَالْمَلٰٓئِكَةِ وَالْكِتٰبِ وَالنَّبِيِّۦنَ وَءَاتَى الْمَالَ عَلٰى حُبِّهِۦ ذَوِى الْقُرْبٰى وَالْيَتٰمٰى وَالْمَسٰكِينَ وَابْنَ السَّبِيلِ وَالسَّآئِلِينَ وَفِى الرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَءَاتَى الزَّكٰوةَ وَالْمُوفُونَ بِعَهْدِهِمْ إِذَا عٰهَدُوا  ۖ وَالصّٰبِرِينَ فِى الْبَأْسَآءِ وَالضَّرَّآءِ وَحِينَ الْبَأْسِ  ۗ أُولٰٓئِكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْمُتَّقُونَ
"Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 177)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Stop the misinformation!!!

ContractKiller:
You are actually agreeing with everything I said.
The koran is silent on telling muslims how many times they are supposed to pray on each day and it is silent on giving muslims instructions for the performance of hajj, but it contains many verses on how muslim men can have sex with captured women.

Also, what is the point of capturing and raping women only for you to free them after you have finished raping them?

Wouldn't it have been better off if you hadn't turned those women into sex slaves in the first place?

You're beginning to make Allah sound like an extremely unintelligent god.

PRE4:
Then Allah is not the Almighty GOD...My Bible never taught me to capture women and use them as fair play.

Rapture4real:


God bless you.Everything about Islam is satanic deception.Thats why satan move them to have sex with slaves and shed blood in the name of Allah.Their secret will be exposed when Christ shall come and every muslims will realise theyve been deceived.Hence no argument with then.We will soon know who serve the true God.

Rapture4real:


God bless you.Everything about Islam is satanic deception.Thats why satan move them to have sex with slaves and shed blood in the name of Allah.Their secret will be exposed when Christ shall come and every muslims will realise theyve been deceived.Hence no argument with then.We will soon know who serve the true God.

PRE4:
Then Allah is not the Almighty GOD...My Bible never taught me to capture women and use them as fair play.

haekymbahd:
Agreed. But are the infants and animal his enemy too.
Was Jesus around during the ,old testament why did he not correct that if he claims he is love. Or is he not God who ordered that.

haekymbahd:


1 Samuel: 15. 3. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. - Bible Offline

Numbers: 31. 17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - Bible Offline is this not rape.

But your Yahwe/christ told you this abi... I am also waiting for prophet isa (alaisalat wasalam) to come. Shedding blood in the name of Yahwe/Christ. This is slavery at its peak.

Explain to me what did those children infant to be precise and animal do to your Yahwe pls?

Later they will claim our God is love ignoring the criminal past shit.

I proved to you that Allah didn't say such so I want you to justify your Yahweh's/christ action since u claim Christ is Yahwe abi na son ni confused people.

@PRE4 are u sure your bible didn't teach you this or ur pastors intentionally hid this verse from you in other to preach their falsehood.

And to the op of this thread @ContractKiller saying boko haram and isis are the true muslims then I also believe that this up here is the true act of true christianity not the love they are preaching around today. Abi is it not this same Christ that is in the old testament.

PRE4:


We have dispensations.Now we are in the dispensation of grace unlike those days when one is immediately punished for their wrong.
Trace the Amalekites history,they were coined out from Lot daughter who was a friend of God.You see,those days are the time God punish people who are his enemies and does not his wills hence the order to kill the whole inhabitants of Amalek both infants and animals.Have you traced african geneology?are you aware that African is backward because of the barbaric acts of our forefathers and nw they are long dead therefore the younger generations suffers the consequences.This same techniques applies to the Amalek scenario.

haekymbahd:
okay but u believe in this statement "Jesus is the same today, yesterday and forever.

haekymbahd:

Allah is talking about concubines not captives like u are reasoning..

Enen In your Bible, a concubine was a woman acquired by a man as a secondary wife. Her purpose was to provide a male heir in the case of a barren wife, to provide more children in general to enhance the family’s workforce and wealth, and to satisfy the man’s sexual desires. A concubine was endowed with rights and protections by Hebrew law but was not equal in status to a wife.
A woman living as a concubine was more common in Israel during the patriarchal period of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob than in later periods, but it still happened among the wealthy and especially the royal like King David and King Solomon.

Show me a verse in the Quran where Allah said capture women and rape them?

And on d issue of freeing captives.

Allah SWT said:

إِنَّمَا الصَّدَقٰتُ لِلْفُقَرَآءِ وَالْمَسٰكِينِ وَالْعٰمِلِينَ عَلَيْهَا وَالْمُؤَلَّفَةِ قُلُوبُهُمْ وَفِى الرِّقَابِ وَالْغٰرِمِينَ وَفِى سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَابْنِ السَّبِيلِ  ۖ فَرِيضَةً مِّنَ اللَّهِ  ۗ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ
"Zakah expenditures are only for the poor and for the needy and for those employed to collect [zakah] and for bringing hearts together [for Islam] and for freeing captives [or slaves] and for those in debt and for the cause of Allah and for the [stranded] traveler - an obligation [imposed] by Allah. And Allah is Knowing and Wise."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 60)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com
Muslims are to use their zakat to free captives definitely showing that the slave were not captured by muslims.

Boko haram ,Isis and all the sects you mentioned are not true muslims.

PRE4:


Yes i very much do.what it means is that Christ cannot change his standard despite technological advancement or new age ideologies.
He believes the wicked must be punished even though they repent andhe forgives them.
The Amalekites had really destroyed the Israelites in time past and so therefore God is revenging.He uses anybody or any methodology to avenge.
Are u cleared now?

haekymbahd:
My own here is that all the false claims of you Christians saying Allah is violent when Yahwe is even more violent in nature.

Allah SWT said:

وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِى حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ  ۗ وَمَنْ قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِۦ سُلْطٰنًا فَلَا يُسْرِف فِّى الْقَتْلِ  ۖ إِنَّهُۥ كَانَ مَنْصُورًا
"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, for he will be judged [by the same law]."
(QS. Al-Israa 17: Verse 33)

Allah is not in support of killing of unbelievers this terrorist groups just spoiling the image of Islam...

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haekymbahd:
Not again lies why if u hate a religion must u propagate lies about it.

U should know that the Holy Quran is the trusted book of Islam. Concerning the hadith we have the strong, weak and false based on source. So don't quote false and weak hadith here.

It is just like me asking you how màny Gospel s we have in the bible why is the gospel of bernabas, thomas, Mary, peter, truth e.t.c excluded from the bible.

Glory be to Almighty Allah(S.W.T) he gave us the Quran. Allah Akbar.

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haekymbahd:
Allah didn't order muslims to do this why propagate lies against Islam what is your gain we are to leave such a person to Allah himself. Quran overrules any hadith u quote here.

Allah SWT said:

مَنْ كَفَرَ بِاللَّهِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ إِيمٰنِهِۦٓ إِلَّا مَنْ أُكْرِهَ وَقَلْبُهُۥ مُطْمَئِنٌّۢ بِالْإِيمٰنِ وَلٰكِنْ مَّنْ شَرَحَ بِالْكُفْرِ صَدْرًا فَعَلَيْهِمْ غَضَبٌ مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
"Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment;"
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 106)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Why should muslims kill such a person when

Allah SWT said:

وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِى حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ  ۗ وَمَنْ قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِۦ سُلْطٰنًا فَلَا يُسْرِف فِّى الْقَتْلِ  ۖ إِنَّهُۥ كَانَ مَنْصُورًا
"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, for he will be judged [by the same law]."
(QS. Al-Israa 17: Verse 33)

If some people are doing it, it is left to them and God. Only God can judge them.

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haekymbahd:
No the standard has changed already from a God sticks to commandmends and one that abolishes it because he saw flaws in it..

I believe Allah is the same today, yesterday and forever and does not regret his actions. can we the same of Yahwe.

1 samuel

9Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep, oxen, fatlings, lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them; but all that was undesirable or worthless they destroyed utterly.

10Then the word of the Lord came to Samuel, saying,

11I regret making Saul king, for he has turned back from following Me and has not performed My commands. And Samuel was grieved and angry [with Saul], and he cried to the Lord all night.



Are u even sure the Amalekites really destroyed Israelites.


Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)[/b]

What about this... And why should the infants and animals suffer for what their ancestors did.

haekymbahd:

@Contractkiller after you must have post the preceding verse please justify this action by your God please. Are you in support?

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haekymbahd:

Look at this idiot "photocopying" from the Bible allah the same today, yesterday and forever? Why are you stealing Biblical verses to honour allah? Did allah send you?

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I believe Allah is the same today, yesterday and forever and does not regret his actions. can we the same of Yahwe.

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