Software Engineering has a fast-paced ecosystem. Your job is stable as long as you're able to keep up.

Harnny:
Not sure I have ever seen a developer earning less than 100k. My organization pays at least 120 even for interns. We scarce man....especially the really good ones. One of my colleague earns 600k and he does nothing. He has been earning that for over 3 years.

He definitely does something if he's earning that amount

DenreleDave:


Is that tueku truly truly u?

If yes, I die there 4u.... I wana die Btw ur boobs... To hell with Amatarasha boobs . Who Amatarasha boobs help when ur own boobs dey dere

Same thing you will say to Miss C when you're Tru squeezing mine....men are insatiable.....

benebaby77:
He should venture into freelancing, he would be earning more....

Or could earn less or nothing

50k per months? I earn no less than 100k monthly, programming pays

techmo:




See, what a programmer can offer are far limited and most firms prefer a C.S guy

A tech firm needs a programmer that can write complex algorithm, design flawless software architecture, debug and upgrade, document softwares and still work as an IT support staff for both the company and the clients


To succeed as a programmer depends on your marketing skills, your independence to freelance, and ability to build your own cormercial software

.

Sounds like 5 jobs in one. Definitely a small firm struggling to survive

ThinkB4mention:

Same thing you will say to Miss C when you're Tru squeezing mine....men are insatiable.....

Let's make a deal.... If u r still tight down there and those boobs are still firm like oranges, there will be no miss C again.... I will stop at B (you)...


Is that a deal??

I keep saying it. It's not the course or whatever hype people give to the skill under your possession. What matters is hw much quality info you have access to, and whether or not you are still an action taker. And finally, knowing where your markets are and how to sell your skills before the potential clients. These matter a lot.

No skill is bad. And ofcourse some skills are better than others. But my submission ealier is what matters the most.

If you can identify your market and know how to sell your skills, you can become a billionaire selling ordinary pins.

Imagine someone opening a thread of this nature about Programming, a skill that's one of the most sought after in the world as at right now.

Smh

ikorodureporta:
What's d best app for building Android website

android website??

eph12:

Or could earn less or nothing

If he's very good at what he does and delivers good and timely job for a client, he will surely earn and learn more.

tensazangetsu20:
50k a month . How do people accept such salaries for mentally taxing jobs? Seriously. How? When there's so many options today. Freelancing, remote work name it.

Working for a company does not stop freelancing. And it's not that simple to earn good money as a new freelancer, not to talk of a remote job

pcguru1:
This is covid era every job is now unstable

wow, even for experienced progrmmers like you?

benebaby77:


If he's very good at what he does and delivers good and timely job for a client, he will surely earn and learn more.

Someone that's very good won't be earning 50k in a company. And even if you're very good, getting clients as a first timer is very difficult

eph12:

Sounds like 5 jobs in one. Definitely a small firm struggling to survive

Step into the real world and see, most firms don't need coding of project always, except for the likes of NASA, Google , Facebook etc

Most firms need an all-round IT guy

For instance a 5 star hotel (grand Excelsior/ Holliday Inn) Abu Shagara Sharjah in UAE offered a job for a MIS ERP design and implementation project that lasted less than 6 months and upon project completion the HR made it clear what their new IT needs are, and only offered Full Employment for few C.S guys why booting out the Indian coders

eph12:

Working for a company does not stop freelancing. And it's not that simple to earn good money as a new freelancer, not to talk of a remote job

Maybe maybe not. For freelancing, you have to be tenacious. Freelancing works especially on Upwork. As for remote jobs it's just like any other job. Continuous application and scaling and passing the interviews which most times aren't easy. Coding interviews are one of the hardest things on earth. I honestly can't work for 50k not in Lagos. It's not even enough for transport talk less of taking care of my problems. How do you even pay for courses to continuously develop yourself. Not worth it and I am sure it's your laptop you would be using to do the work sef.

TerryMcGinis:
he knows his onions... Good day, is it possible that i can speak with this friend of yours please? Thank you.

Can your friend use Drupal?

eph12:

Someone that's very good won't be earning 50k in a company. And even if you're very good, getting clients as a first timer is very difficult

Yes, I agree with that. It's possible that the guy is just starting out. As a first-timer freelancer, having a portfolio to show to one's clients increases their confidence in one...

tensazangetsu20:

Maybe maybe not. For freelancing, you have to be tenacious. Freelancing works especially on Upwork. As for remote jobs it's just like any other job. Continuous application and scaling and passing the interviews which most times aren't easy. Coding interviews are one of the hardest things on earth.

Like I said, it takes a lot of scaled skillset and mental preparations to be successful at most of the remote jobs interviews. Someone just starting or someone that's currently earning 50k monthly tells me that he's not that ready yet.

I'm on upwork so I know how it works. It's not that easy to get jobs unless you have trusted clients that keep using you

techmo:




See, what a programmer can offer are far limited and most firms prefer a C.S guy

A tech firm needs a programmer that can write complex algorithm, design flawless software architecture, debug and upgrade, document softwares and still work as an IT support staff for both the company and the clients


To succeed as a programmer depends on your marketing skills, your independence to freelance, and ability to build your own cormercial software

.

none CS guys can't do these? Just asking.

vicshub:
I don't want to dabble into your rubble rambling... I don't celebrate any government to constructs roads and schools because it their primary responsibility. I celebrate human capital development. Let me tell you my story. It is in obaseki's time as a governor that I have experience direct investment of a state on his citizens.. When he instuted the edo innovation hub, a lot of persons were skeptical about it functions including myself, but the governor understood that investing in the youth is investing in the future.. A lot of cooperate bodies and international cooperations partnered with him including GIZ, MICROSOFT, IBM, SLOT, etc. He created a skill aquision agency under EDOJOBS to professionally train edo youths.. First I applied for laptop and GSM repairs and I was chosen to be trained by SLOT.. We were grinded for six months and given start up kits. I can remember that we even had a life coaching and an entrepreneurship lecture by the owner of slot himself. After the training, many of colleagues started their own shops while I decided to work for slot. Another program came up again( A lot of training goes on every day for free at the HUB and at the edo production center paid for by the government and its partners.. Some are even fed twice daily and given stipends for transportation), this time the government partnered with GIZ( A RENOWNED GERMAN COMPANY ON RENEWABLE ENERGY),PEND, FUPRE, AND SHELL COOPERATION. I applied and I was trained professionally on solar energy Free of charge.. We eat twice a day, we had our field work at FUPRE effurun warri because of all the universities in Nigeria, the have the largest solar farm. FUPRE generates 70% of its energy consumption from solar, you can ask.. After which I was given a professional certificate that was certified by all these international cooperations including FUPRE locally.. I would have spent hundreds of thousands if not millions but a governor did it for me free of charge and you say obaseki doesn't deserve a second term.. The programs are still on, it's doesn't discriminate provided you are a resident of edo.. I am Victor Ugochukwu and I am not ashamed of my governor.. OBASEKI FOR SECOND TERM

How those this answer the topic?

most programmers to know does freelancing to add up.

benebaby77:


Yes, I agree with that. It's possible that the guy is just starting out. As a first-timer freelancer, having a portfolio to show to one's clients increases their confidence in one...

Exactly! He should focus on building his portfolio first

dullàrdinho

tensazangetsu20:
50k a month . How do people accept such salaries for mentally taxing jobs? Seriously. How? When there's so many options today. Freelancing, remote work name it.

I wasn't paid at my first job 7 years ago! I interned for free, The UN didn't pay volunteers then. First you learn then you remove the L!

DeckXavier:
none CS guys can't do these? Just asking.

I doubt any non CS programmer learnt all this at any coding Academy

Eddee:


I wasn't paid at my first job 7 years ago! I interned for free, The UN didn't pay volunteers then. First you learn then you remove the L!

Yeah you learn the programmer has learnt. He has at least grasped the basics of a programming language to get a job. And it's a fast moving field that calls for continuous learning and development. Those courses and data don't come cheap. Working for such amount isn't worth it.

It's like no one understands the content of this thread. READ FIRST THE THREAD!

Seun, perhaps you can help with the answer.

eph12:

Like I said, it takes a lot of scaled skillset and mental preparations to be successful at most of the remote jobs interviews. Someone just starting or someone that's currently earning 50k monthly tells me that he's not that ready yet.

I'm on upwork so I know how it works. It's not that easy to get jobs unless you have trusted clients that keep using you

Which section are you on Upwork?

techmo:


Step into the real world and see, most firms don't need coding of project always, except for the likes of NASA, Google , Facebook etc

Most firms need an all-round IT guy

For instance a 5 star hotel (grand Excelsior/ Holliday Inn) Abu Shagara Sharjah in UAE offered a job for a MIS ERP design and implementation project that lasted less than 6 months and upon project completion the HR made it clear what their new IT needs are, and only offered Full Employment for few C.S guys why booting out the Indian coders

Lmao there are hundreds or even thousands of start ups who pay really good money to software developers every year.

Will those C.S guys all be required to do everything? Or they will be shared into departments?

tensazangetsu20:

Yeah you learn the programmer has learnt. He has at least grasped the basics of a programming language to get a job. And it's a fast moving field that calls for continuous learning and development. Those courses and data don't come cheap. Working for such amount isn't worth it.

I understand you perfectly, the Nigerian situation doesn't give you that option. I'm an accountant, and now have the luxury of choosing my jobs. Before 6 years ago, I didn't have the luxury nor the necessary connections to leverage upon. Now I do! He can keep his head down, dig into reserves he may not realize he has and weather this storm, iron sharpens iron and you sound like the type of guy that knows this too well!

sholarr12:
I know a programmer who was employed in an organization that owed two month salary, even up till the third month, despite the fact that the salary was not even up to #50, 000.

That same person resigned and after some months got a better paying programming job but the company has not even resumed yet because of coronavirus and the company has not been paying, that is not even the problem since the company has not yet resumed.

The surprising thing is the company has not received any project that their programmer employees can work on despite the fact that the employees have their personal company laptops.

My question is this, is the work of a programmer unstable?

I can say it is by God's grace, not by aptitude. There is nothing sure in all these IT Career, peeps are now much. We have cool programmers and devs that are intelligent but unemployed, they freelance, get outsourced jobs from high paid devs to meet their ends. Nothing sure!

Eddee:


I understand you perfectly, the Nigerian situation doesn't give you that option. I'm an accountant, and now have the luxury of choosing my jobs. Before 6 years ago, I had the luxury but not the necessary connections to leverage upon. Now I do! He can keep his head down, dig into reserves he may not realize he has and weather this storm, iron sharpens iron and you sound like the type of guy that knows this too well!

Honestly it isn't worth it working for free for any organisation. I come from a marine engineering background and my first job abroad was also a volunteer job. It makes no sense seeing how much certifications in that field cost plus there isn't any assurance of any job after getting them .