Which one is the best for international students?

Sodeeqlekan:
Which one is the best for international students?

Germany.

Just secure your 5million naira and you're there in a second.

After graduation, and even as a student, there are several jobs to earn you Euros with. Netherlands doesn't have much jobs compared to Germany.

Just that Netherlands is perceived to be less racist than Germany. But there are still lots of Blacks doing well in Germany.

If you care about making money while schooling and after schooling, go for Germany, but please dust your German language and save up that amount I mentioned.

flyingpig:


Germany.

Just secure your 5million naira and you're there in a second.

After graduation, and even as a student, there are several jobs to earn you Euros with. Netherlands doesn't have much jobs compared to Germany.

Just that Netherlands is perceived to be less racist than Germany. But there are still lots of Blacks doing well in Germany.

If you care about making money whole schooling and after schooling, go for Germany, but please dust your German language and save up that amount I mentioned.

op,this man don tell you everything u need.

flyingpig:


Germany.

Just secure your 5million naira and you're there in a second.

After graduation, and even as a student, there are several jobs to earn you Euros with. Netherlands doesn't have much jobs compared to Germany.

Just that Netherlands is perceived to be less racist than Germany. But there are still lots of Blacks doing well in Germany.

If you care about making money whole schooling and after schooling, go for Germany, but please dust your German language and save up that amount I mentioned.

Thanks so much

Sodeeqlekan:
Thanks so much

I think you have a degree in social sciences?

I'm not so sure of opportunities on that field after graduating in Germany, as it is majorly a Tech country. I don't know what your passion and zeals are.

But, if you can raise some money to write a WAEC or NECO that can fetch you good grades in Science courses like Physics, Maths, Computer science, German language, you can proceed to Germany and do your Bachelors in Computer related courses or engineering for the same 5m range. That's where i am sure you'll find abundant opportunities to earn decent Euros in Germany while schooling and after graduation.

Discouraging I guess. But such rewarding venture is not for the faint-hearted.

Life while studying:

Germany: better chance of visa, better student benefits, world class Universities, less expensive, better job opportunity after studying, chance to make more money, more discrimination, bureaucracy, more peaceful people, less police harassment, bigger cities, better connected for traveling around, German language is not popular outside Germany.

Netherlands: better student life, happier/more friendly people, more expensive, boring, good for weed smokers, open minded people, more beautiful people, less discrimination, more English speakers, easier to find English speaking student jobs, less bureaucracy, more racial profiling by police, Dutch language can be useful in other Dutch speaking countries.

Life After Studying:

Germany: better chance to get a job, more global, better chance to save money, better pay, robotic work environment, better integration, better chance to become a citizen, average salary €3,700 (before tax), 18 months to find a job, better chance to extend work visa or take up another study.

Netherland: more relaxed working environment, more international working environment, higher chance of working for an international company, higher chance of finding an English speaking job, hard to save money, more black people in good job positions, fewer good job cities, less opportunities, can get a job in another Dutch speaking country if you learn the language, 1 year to find a job, average salary €2,800 (before tax), requires 10 years before applying for citizenship.

Process of obtaining permanent residency is similar in both countries.

Danielhouston:
Life while studying:

Germany: better chance of visa, better student benefits, world class Universities, less expensive, better job opportunity after studying, chance to make more money, more discrimination, bureaucracy, more peaceful people, less police harassment, bigger cities, better connected for traveling around, German language is not popular outside Germany.

Netherlands: better student life, happier/more friendly people, more expensive, boring, good for weed smokers, open minded people, more beautiful people, less discrimination, more English speakers, easier to find English speaking student jobs, less bureaucracy, more racial profiling by police, Dutch language can be useful in other Dutch speaking countries.

Life After Studying:

Germany: better chance to get a job, more global, better chance to save money, better pay, robotic work environment, better integration, better chance to become a citizen, average salary €3,700 (before tax), 18 months to find a job, better chance to extend work visa or take up another study.

Netherland: more relaxed working environment, more international working environment, higher chance of working for an international company, higher chance of finding an English speaking job, hard to save money, more black people in good job positions, fewer good job cities, less opportunities, can get a job in another Dutch speaking country if you learn the language, 1 year to find a job, average salary €2,800 (before tax), requires 10 years before applying for citizenship.

Process of obtaining permanent residency is similar in both countries.

. you've said it all bro average salary is annually right?

jizzyjordan:
. you've said it all bro average salary is annually right?

Monthly

Danielhouston:

Monthly

Danielhouston:

Monthly

flyingpig:


I think you have a degree in social sciences?

I'm not so sure of opportunities on that field after graduating in Germany, as it is majorly a Tech country. I don't know what your passion and zeals are.

But, if you can raise some money to write a WAEC or NECO that can fetch you good grades in Science courses like Physics, Maths, Computer science, German language, you can proceed to Germany and do your Bachelors in Computer related courses or engineering for the same 5m range. That's where i am sure you'll find abundant opportunities to earn decent Euros in Germany while schooling and after graduation.

Discouraging I guess. But such rewarding venture is not for the faint-hearted.

What if i have IT knowledge before traveling to Germany, can i get a job in an IT field with a social science degree?

Danielhouston:


Monthly

Is there opportunities for people with social science degree?

Sodeeqlekan:
What if i have IT knowledge before traveling to Germany, can i get a job in an IT field with a social science degree?

Uhm do you have reputable online certifications like Udemy?

flyingpig:


Uhm do you have reputable online certifications like Udemy?

No, can you recommend like two reputable for me?

Danielhouston:


Monthly

That's very fat!

Nigeria no be country I swear

Sodeeqlekan:
What if i have IT knowledge before traveling to Germany, can i get a job in an IT field with a social science degree?

Danielhouston please assist this guy. ( You are a German resident ).

Case in hand; degree in social science, IT knowledge but without certifications.

Danielhouston:

Pls do check your email. I replied back. Cheers

olioxx:

Pls do check your email. I replied back.
Cheers

Please, kindly share the information here for all to benefit from your wealth of experience. A number of us have similar situations.

Meanwhile, thanks a lot for sharing your deep insights and experience on living in Germany.

flyingpig:


That's very fat!

Nigeria no be country I swear

Some freelancers are earning that amount and even more than that in Nigeria

Danielhouston:
Life while studying:

Germany: better chance of visa, better student benefits, world class Universities, less expensive, better job opportunity after studying, chance to make more money, more discrimination, bureaucracy, more peaceful people, less police harassment, bigger cities, better connected for traveling around, German language is not popular outside Germany.

Netherlands: better student life, happier/more friendly people, more expensive, boring, good for weed smokers, open minded people, more beautiful people, less discrimination, more English speakers, easier to find English speaking student jobs, less bureaucracy, more racial profiling by police, Dutch language can be useful in other Dutch speaking countries.

Life After Studying:

Germany: better chance to get a job, more global, better chance to save money, better pay, robotic work environment, better integration, better chance to become a citizen, average salary €3,700 (before tax), 18 months to find a job, better chance to extend work visa or take up another study.

Netherland: more relaxed working environment, more international working environment, higher chance of working for an international company, higher chance of finding an English speaking job, hard to save money, more black people in good job positions, fewer good job cities, less opportunities, can get a job in another Dutch speaking country if you learn the language, 1 year to find a job, average salary €2,800 (before tax), requires 10 years before applying for citizenship.

Process of obtaining permanent residency is similar in both countries.

I always look forward to your comment in any related thread boss.. Want to be like you when I grow up

olioxx:

Pls do check your email. I replied back.
Cheers

Boss, longest time.. How have you been

Danielhouston:
Life while studying:

Germany: better chance of visa, better student benefits, world class Universities, less expensive, better job opportunity after studying, chance to make more money, more discrimination, bureaucracy, more peaceful people, less police harassment, bigger cities, better connected for traveling around, German language is not popular outside Germany.

Netherlands: better student life, happier/more friendly people, more expensive, boring, good for weed smokers, open minded people, more beautiful people, less discrimination, more English speakers, easier to find English speaking student jobs, less bureaucracy, more racial profiling by police, Dutch language can be useful in other Dutch speaking countries.

Life After Studying:

Germany: better chance to get a job, more global, better chance to save money, better pay, robotic work environment, better integration, better chance to become a citizen, average salary €3,700 (before tax), 18 months to find a job, better chance to extend work visa or take up another study.

Netherland: more relaxed working environment, more international working environment, higher chance of working for an international company, higher chance of finding an English speaking job, hard to save money, more black people in good job positions, fewer good job cities, less opportunities, can get a job in another Dutch speaking country if you learn the language, 1 year to find a job, average salary €2,800 (before tax), requires 10 years before applying for citizenship.

Process of obtaining permanent residency is similar in both countries.

There's a slight error here with regards to the number of years before applying for citizenship. It's just Five years.

4dor:


There's a slight error here with regards to the number of years before applying for citizenship. It's just Five years.

Thanks for correcting that.

flyingpig:

Danielhouston please assist this guy. ( You are a German resident ).

Case in hand; degree in social science, IT knowledge but without certifications.

In Germany you get a job in your field of study. You cannot have a degree in social science and get a job in IT. It doesn’t matter how much computer knowledge you learned on your own. That’s like a fashion designer hoping to work in a hospital because he watched Grey’s Anatomy. Unless you’re a genius that can hack the World Bank.

Hadampson:


I always look forward to your comment in any related thread boss.. Want to be like you when I grow up

Lol. You sef go soon enter Germany. You already have more knowledge than some people in Germany sef. Just remember us when you land.

Hadampson:


Some freelancers are earning that amount and even more than that in Nigeria

Yeah I know a freelancer who made over 1,000 dollars in a month.

Great work here guys..everybody dropping some vital information that goes a long way...I just want to ask, can one without no knowledge of German language apply for a school and get admission hoping to learn the language in Germany.. cos most times I hear alot of people say have basic knowledge of German before u come in..does it mean u can't be issued Visa if u don't know German.. pls someone clear this out for me

Thanks

Danielhouston:
Life while studying:

Germany: better chance of visa, better student benefits, world class Universities, less expensive, better job opportunity after studying, chance to make more money, more discrimination, bureaucracy, more peaceful people, less police harassment, bigger cities, better connected for traveling around, German language is not popular outside Germany.

Netherlands: better student life, happier/more friendly people, more expensive, boring, good for weed smokers, open minded people, more beautiful people, less discrimination, more English speakers, easier to find English speaking student jobs, less bureaucracy, more racial profiling by police, Dutch language can be useful in other Dutch speaking countries.

Life After Studying:

Germany: better chance to get a job, more global, better chance to save money, better pay, robotic work environment, better integration, better chance to become a citizen, average salary €3,700 (before tax), 18 months to find a job, better chance to extend work visa or take up another study.

Netherland: more relaxed working environment, more international working environment, higher chance of working for an international company, higher chance of finding an English speaking job, hard to save money, more black people in good job positions, fewer good job cities, less opportunities, can get a job in another Dutch speaking country if you learn the language, 1 year to find a job, average salary €2,800 (before tax), requires 10 years before applying for citizenship.

Process of obtaining permanent residency is similar in both countries.

thank you for this input danke

jizzyjordan:
. you've said it all bro average salary is annually right?

. Yeah but I will like to correct the Dutch he said can be used elsewhere.. For me German is more spoken elsewhere than Dutch.. I will advise one to learn (Deutsch(German) instead of Dutch). If you Learn German and know English, then Dutch is easier. My friend from Netherlands Felix tried to teach me and in 5 mins I was able to read a full text and understand it.. Just because I can speak German and English.. German is spoken in Austria Switzerland lichtenstein and Luxembourg also so I believe it also gives you wider coverage.. I advise you to go to Germany @Op since I landed here from day 1 I have never regretted it.. I started earning my first Euro the very next day because I arrived here with German language level of B2.. Learn it. it will pay you on the long run.. Ich wünsche euch Alles Gute.

At all

flyingpig:


That's very fat!

Nigeria no be country I swear

pquaver:
. Yeah but I will like to correct the Dutch he said can be used elsewhere.. For me German is more spoken than Dutch.. I will advise one to learn (Deutsch(German) instead of Dutch). If you Learn German and know English Dutch is easier. My friend from Netherlands Felix tried to teach me an in 5 mins I was able to read a full text and understand it.. Just because I can't speak German and English.. German is spoken in Austria Switzerland lichtenstein and Luxembourg also so I believe it also gives you wider coverage.. I advise you to go to Germany @Op since I landed here from day 1 I have never regretted it.. I started earning my first Euro the very next day because I arrived here with German language level of B2.. Learn iti it will pay you on the long run.. Ich wünsche euch Alles Gute.

Thanks so much boss

pquaver:
. Yeah but I will like to correct the Dutch he said can be used elsewhere.. For me German is more spoken elsewhere than Dutch.. I will advise one to learn (Deutsch(German) instead of Dutch). If you Learn German and know English, then Dutch is easier. My friend from Netherlands Felix tried to teach me and in 5 mins I was able to read a full text and understand it.. Just because I can speak German and English.. German is spoken in Austria Switzerland lichtenstein and Luxembourg also so I believe it also gives you wider coverage.. I advise you to go to Germany @Op since I landed here from day 1 I have never regretted it.. I started earning my first Euro the very next day because I arrived here with German language level of B2.. Learn it. it will pay you on the long run.. Ich wünsche euch Alles Gute.

The answer to this is subjective and not one that a google search can correctly answer. Both German and Dutch have 6 countries where they are the official language. But Dutch is more popular around the world and spoken in many more countries as an unofficial but popular language.
Even in South Africa, Afrikaans language is basically Dutch, but they won’t say Dutch is their official language. They call it “Afrikaans”

Have you heard Swiss-German? It is called German but even the Germans cannot understand it. A Swiss person can understand german spoken in Germany, perfectly. But most Germans cannot understand the german spoken in Switzerland. Still, they say an official language in Switzerland is German. Same with Luxembourg, though it is more similar.
Whereas, in the Dutch speaking countries, Dutch is Dutch, just different accents.

For example: English is the official language of Nigeria but Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa are native languages. How many Nigerians can actually speak English? Pidgin is even more popular in Nigeria than English, but it is not listed as an official language. But google would tell you that English is our official language.

A Nigerian who speaks Pidgin English can also speak and understand proper English. But a British man who speaks proper English cannot understand Pidgin English. The British man would definitely hear some English words in the pidgin but he would struggle to understand what we’re saying. That is what Swiss-German and German looks like. Except that Switzerland calls “German” an official language, contrary to Pidgin English.

Someone who learns Dutch would find it easier to communicate in countries where Dutch is spoken, than German language in german speaking countries. Dutch is also easier to learn than German.

This argument is useless, I know. But don’t mind me, I just feel like arguing today.
PS: I brought this up with my colleagues now and the entire office is arguing about it with lots of noise. German vs Dutch

Luckycharis:
Great work here guys..everybody dropping some vital information that goes a long way...I just want to ask, can one without no knowledge of German language apply for a school and get admission hoping to learn the language in Germany.. cos most times I hear alot of people say have basic knowledge of German before u come in..does it mean u can't be issued Visa if u don't know German.. pls someone clear this out for me

Thanks

If your course of study is taught in English, you don’t have to learn German before you apply for admission or visa. People just believe basic German knowledge would help your visa application but that’s a myth. You’ll be granted visa without German language as long as your course is taught in English.