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Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Nobody: 10:49am On Jul 05, 2020
mosegifted:
Good morning great people in the house, please let me share my dream yesterday night, I have never been so touched in my dreams before it felt so sure and real to me because i was not really sleeping, I saw rapture in my dream yesterday and after rapture there was a great tribulation, I felt so bad and pained that it had to appear on my look this morning
Oga I also dreamt about rapture in 2008 go and siddon one place abeg.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:05am On Jul 05, 2020
Bahamas95:
I accept Jesus as my saviour but I am not the churchy type. I am tired of these so-called men of God with their annoying attitude. They will say touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm bla bla bla or judge not so that thou shall not be judged but we are humans. Their attitude alone would even make someone backslide, I have worshipped in several churches in the past so I know what am talking about.


I have decided to set aside religion in my life, my relationship with God is one on one. Am cool with that.
Nice. Just rely on the Holy spirit and he will lead you right.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Lifepodcastng: 11:08am On Jul 05, 2020
XXLMANDIGO:
I wonder why God Almighty didn't give us a glimpse of what heaven looks like. It's a mystery that has existed since Adam. Also I wonder if reincarnation is real because Pre-European culture of our ancestors strongly uphold reincarnation. Everything changed since the advent of Christianity. What could be missing?/Please enlighten me.
Well even the Bible talks about reincarnation in Moses and Elijah but how long will that be? This world isn’t build for eternity. Reincarnation itself is according to the will of GOD. We as people in Christ don’t have to deal with that. What we should be more concerned about is Christ and being in his kingdom
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:09am On Jul 05, 2020
LordReed:
How is this different from any normal person who doesn't believe in your Jesus?
The difference is the belief and acceptance of Jesus as Lord and saviour. Funny but true.

It is the holy spirit in us believers that make a whole lot of difference.

An unbeliever sins and sins again with impunity whilst a snner never enjoys sins but becomes sober afterward and asks fir forgiveness.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Lifepodcastng: 11:10am On Jul 05, 2020
XXLMANDIGO:
I wonder why God Almighty didn't give us a glimpse of what heaven looks like. It's a mystery that has existed since Adam. Also I wonder if reincarnation is real because Pre-European culture of our ancestors strongly uphold reincarnation. Everything changed since the advent of Christianity. What could be missing?/Please enlighten me.
We have a glimpse of heaven in Christ, we also can imagine it in the book of revelation
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by jaxxy(m): 11:11am On Jul 05, 2020
Hofbrauhaus:
Lol. What an error. God doesn't want you in heaven bros. He has already giving you your own heaven which is called Earth andhe told you to dorminate. He doesn't need you in his heaven...Gerrit?
And who told u this? Same bible that spoke of heaven? And do u live on the earth forever or what? So how is it ur own heavenhuh Better get sense. undecided
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:11am On Jul 05, 2020
Lifepodcastng:
Well even the Bible talks about reincarnation in Moses and Elijah but how long will that be? This world isn’t build for eternity. Reincarnation itself is according to the will of GOD. We as people in Christ don’t have to deal with that. What we should be more concerned about is Christ and being in his kingdom
Elijah has come as John the baptist.

The two witnesses are two groups of people who are the Jews and gentiles meaning you and I as gentiles and those Jews who will latter come to accept Jesus.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:12am On Jul 05, 2020
XXLMANDIGO:
I wonder why God Almighty didn't give us a glimpse of what heaven looks like. It's a mystery that has existed since Adam. Also I wonder if reincarnation is real because Pre-European culture of our ancestors strongly uphold reincarnation. Everything changed since the advent of Christianity. What could be missing?/Please enlighten me.
Go read the books of revelation chaoters 20 and 21
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by LordReed(m): 11:15am On Jul 05, 2020
Toks2008:
The difference is the belief and acceptance of Jesus as Lord and saviour. Funny but true.

It is the holy spirit in us believers that make a whole lot of difference.

An unbeliever sins and sins again with impunity whilst a snner never enjoys sins but becomes sober afterward and asks fir forgiveness.
Who told you nonbelievers in your Jesus don't feel sorry for wrongdoings? Who told you they don't try to make amends or mend their ways? How are you different if you still do wrong? You think praying for forgiveness to an invisible man in the sky makes you better than others who don't?
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:16am On Jul 05, 2020
LordReed:
Who told you nonbelievers in your Jesus don't feel sorry for wrongdoings? Who told you they don't try to make amends or mend their ways? How are you different if you still do wrong? You think praying for forgiveness to an invisible man in the sky makes you better than others who don't?
Oh sorry I never knew I was discussing with a self acclaimed athiest.

No need wasting my time.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Nobody: 11:25am On Jul 05, 2020
Confusion everywhere. The idea of heaven is the greatest scam of all
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by MajorOvakporaye(f): 11:29am On Jul 05, 2020
free Hushpuppi!!!

Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by LordReed(m): 11:30am On Jul 05, 2020
Toks2008:
Oh sorry I never knew I was discussing with a self acclaimed athiest.

No need wasting my time.
LoL! What does self acclaimed atheist even mean and how is it relevant to the discussion?

You have no sufficient answer because most likely you never give any deep thought to these things and you also are not exposed to the wider world so you think your experiences are standard.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by monichannel: 11:31am On Jul 05, 2020
I got this topic few days ago, was amazed I saw it here.

God bless you for passing the message God gave to me and you.

Happy Sunday everyone
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Hofbrauhaus(m): 11:34am On Jul 05, 2020
jaxxy:
And who told u this? Same bible that spoke of heaven? And do u live on the earth forever or what? So how is it ur own heavenhuh Better get sense. undecided
Replenish and dorminate the Earth..

Who told you that you are going to heaven? Yes, Revelations mentioned us going to heaven, but we would also return to this Earth to dorminate. Na Earth be our own..
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:35am On Jul 05, 2020
LordReed:
LoL! What does self acclaimed atheist even mean and how is it relevant to the discussion?

You have no sufficient answer because most likely you never give any deep thought to these things and you also are not exposed to the wider world so you think your experiences are standard.
You know why i don't like arguing with Atheists?

It is because it is a pure waste of time and energy..so i just tell them to relax and not stress it but wait till we both die...we will surely know at that point who is right or wrong. E no cause fight at all.. So abeg relax yourself, time will surely come when the truth will be made known.

Enjoy your day.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by LordReed(m): 11:40am On Jul 05, 2020
Toks2008:
You know why i don't like arguing with Atheists?

It is because it is a pure waste of time and energy..so i just tell them to relax and not stress it but wait till we both die...we will surely know at that point who is right or wrong. E no cause fight at all.. So abeg relax yourself, time will surely come when the truth will be made known.

Enjoy your day.
Ah its good that you agree you lack evidence and you hope that death which is of course hidden to the living will reveal something. No p nah, we'll see whether all the billions of people that have died or will die, will one day stand up including those that their bodies have turned to dust and have been inhaled by the living. LMAO.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 11:42am On Jul 05, 2020
monichannel:
I got this topic few days ago, was amazed I saw it here.

God bless you for passing the message God gave to me and you.

Happy Sunday everyone
Nice one, i wrote it on my Facebook since January but i felt i should share it on nairaland.

I pray we all make Heaven. A glorious place to be.

Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Nobody: 11:47am On Jul 05, 2020
May God have mercy on me and my family
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by jaxxy(m): 11:48am On Jul 05, 2020
Hofbrauhaus:
Replenish and dorminate the Earth..

Who told you that you are going to heaven? Yes, Revelations mentioned us going to heaven, but we would also return to this Earth to dorminate. Na Earth be our own..
I’m happy u atleast said we will go to heaven 1st. The rest of what u said is probably correct also I think. Based on what the Bible says.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jul 05, 2020
50 Cent
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Myer(m): 12:47pm On Jul 05, 2020
emrain:
The gospel


A lot was accomplished with the mental model above, great cities were built, most importantly, great men with character emerged from it.

In my little research on why religion had a backward effect in Africa, I noticed something profound - Africans are more interested in making heaven rather than making the earth heaven. The reverse is the case with progressive nations.

Heaven is not the goal of religion. Heaven is merely a reward for making God’s earth a better place. A reward you'd have to die to receive.
The elucidation in Matthew 25:35-40 couldn't have been simpler.

The truth
The old religious era has sailed. There's enough reason to do whatever we do for the next generation. There's enough reason to live for others. Why are Africans still missing it?

We have an opportunity to move forward with modern practices and science, but instead, I still see people talk about how Africans would have been better off without western/Arab religions. Some people even reminisce about ancient African religious practices that got them nowhere.

When are we going to move forward with the world? When are we going to upgrade religion to a tool for human advancement instead of a ticket to heaven?

Africa rise! The time is now!
Clearly the church has failed in this aspect.
The church had been oriented with the heavenly goal mentality they dissociate themselves from making earth a better place. Many churches are still of the opinion that Christian's are not to meddle in politics. The result of which has produced the Nigeria we see today.

Also some Christian's also have the mentality that no matter what they do on earth their heaven is secured so they themselves are the ones corrupting the earth as along as they ask God for forgiveness and pay their tithes.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by ofiko123(m): 12:59pm On Jul 05, 2020
Nice write up OP..
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Angy55(f): 1:17pm On Jul 05, 2020
Nice one Toks2008
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by rapid101(m): 1:22pm On Jul 05, 2020
blessed re d meek for they shall inherit d earth

plz I want to be here wen it has turn to paradise
u can go to ur heaven
bye cheesy
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Daviestunech(m): 1:27pm On Jul 05, 2020
mosegifted:
Good morning great people in the house, please let me share my dream yesterday night, I have never been so touched in my dreams before it felt so sure and real to me because i was not really sleeping, I saw rapture in my dream yesterday and after rapture there was a great tribulation, I felt so bad and pained that it had to appear on my look this morning
I hv also also experienced something like rapture too ...but long time ago....I only told a friend Nd since then ...I hv always caution myself...

Rapture is real guys
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 1:31pm On Jul 05, 2020
rapid101:
blessed re d meek for they shall inherit d earth

plz I want to be here wen it has turn to paradise
u can go to ur heaven
bye cheesy
Whether paradise is a new earth all together or it will be a refurbished version of the present earth... The most important thing is to be saved.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Samueltemi337(m): 1:33pm On Jul 05, 2020
Toks2008:
You know why i don't like arguing with Atheists?

It is because it is a pure waste of time and energy..so i just tell them to relax and not stress it but wait till we both die...we will surely know at that point who is right or wrong. E no cause fight at all.. So abeg relax yourself, time will surely come when the truth will be made known.

Enjoy your day.
When you die you still won't know anything


Your memories would all be gone


And you would start all over again
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Ezeperson: 1:36pm On Jul 05, 2020
Pls ignore ( make money or die trying, how has ever been to heaven to be sure it's even real)
Toks2008:
When I gave my life to Jesus at a very tender age, I thought it will be an experience that will be void of challenges but as I grew and life began to take away my innocence, I suddenly came face to face with the reality that I can never ever live a sinless life. I constantly battle with addictions, bad habits, and sins then fear crept in and I began to doubt my salvation, I began to doubt my chances of ever making heaven.

But I became liberated when I found out that GOD is never hard on me. All he wants me to do is to never ever condemn myself because I struggle with sins and addictions even after I have accepted Christ as savior(Romans 8:1) but that I continually work out my salvation with fear and trembling(Philippians 2:12) and this simply means that I must never find pleasure in sins, but acknowledge my weaknesses, but if I do sin, I can always come to him to ask for forgiveness, mercies, and strength to carry on(1 John 2:1)even if I struggle with sins till the point of death...

The narrative above applies to many believers who had at a point accepted Jesus but still struggled with their salvation afterward.

The secret the Devil does not want believers to understand is that the moment you give your life to Jesus, you are guaranteed a place in heaven if you do not give up on yourself because GOD will never ever give up on you. The devil will constantly accuse you with your sins so that you can give up your salvation but the gospel truth is that Your bad habits, addictions, and even sins can never ever separate you from the love of GOD as long as you are always willing to let go and allow GOD to help you.
Just as it is written...Romans 8 Verses 38 to 39. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

No matter the sins, addictions or bad habits you struggle with, you can do away with them totally if you sincerely want to. The biggest problem is that people always believe they can fight the battles on their own but it is impossible for anyone to do that...all you need is ask the Holy Spirit to help you overcome whatever bad habit, addiction, and sins you battle with and you will be amazed how easy it will be for you to hate those vices you thought you can never do without.

The bottom line is that as long as you come to Jesus, you are guaranteed heaven if you don't give up on yourself even if you struggle with sins till the day you die...
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by rapid101(m): 1:36pm On Jul 05, 2020
Toks2008:
Whether paradise is a new earth all together or it will be a refurbished version of the present earth... The most important thing is to be saved.
saved by wht
and who is saving who
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by Toks2008(op): 1:36pm On Jul 05, 2020
Samueltemi337:
When you die you still won't know anything


Your memories would all be gone


And you would start all over again
OK make I die first then I will know.
Re: Make Heaven Or Die Trying by ksstroud: 1:40pm On Jul 05, 2020
NairaLEARN:
What if heaven and hell is not real

Just asking..

Religion apart

What if they both never exist..

And life after death is yet unknown to the living


Happy Sunday from all of us
www.nairalearn.com
Religion apart.
I'm not a religious man because I don't have any religion.
I believe there's a Supernatural being that is God in the context of One that controls the affairs of the universe.

To your questions, if you believe in God and live rightly and at the other side, there truly exists the heavens and the hell, then you have something to gain as a reward for your belief and righteousness.
If there exists no heaven and no hell, then you have nothing to loose as your belief and righteousness cost you nothing than just having gone as good man in the face of the current people on earth.

Philosophically, I will rather believe in God and live rightly, get there and meet no heaven or hell than not believing and live rightly,then get there and meet heaven and hell.

At last, it's all about CHOICE. Nothing is by force.
But tomorrow will always be the product of the choice we made today.

Selah
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