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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:07pm On Jul 10, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


Yes you are right, NIRTAL, I'm just confused which pmc doesn't have a website or portfolio?
If our generals can start building contraptions to save money and be happy, what stops them from doing their own local pmc, and hiring a few white faces as their own SF training contraption?
grin I see your point
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:11pm On Jul 10, 2020
Whyem15:
Come to think of it, isn't it the same soft skin technicals that the chadiens and caneroonians are using, obviously we should be doing far better than they are but the point I'm trying to make is that they use the same technicals we use but with far lower casualties than we get. I'm not even sure the chadiens field armoured vehicles as much as we do. So what exactly are we doing wrong.
Their side of the terrain isn't an ambush paradise
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:15pm On Jul 10, 2020
Whyem15:
Heard a report from a soldier (not an officer) saying we are weeks away from winning the war and yet still I'm finding that extremely hard to believe.
This thing tires me. Every other soldier thinks 2-3weeks is enough to win the war. Based on what? This fantasies... I don't get it

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 8:15pm On Jul 10, 2020
Odunayaw:
grin I see your point

Let me know if I'm not making sense ooo
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:22pm On Jul 10, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


If the Nigeria Army don't take the war to these dirty bastards we will Continually see lots of Ambushes and attacks on Military formations.

Buratai please give these dirty bastards Hell we plead
How do Ambushes happen?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:23pm On Jul 10, 2020
Tobiloba2407:

Let me know if I'm not making sense ooo
Till you have evidence sha
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:40pm On Jul 10, 2020
Odunayaw:
How do Ambushes happen?

Oga please tell Buratai and Buhari to increase the tempo. The moment we keep waiting always for them to attack will give them so much powers to control the roads. Currently Monguno road ISWAP has created a legal VCP. They should be on the run smiley

When you don't attack someone and he always comes to your house in search of you, definitely you have given him power to run the streets

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patwilly(m): 9:09pm On Jul 10, 2020
NewDelhi:

The Navy guy even happened to be driving the daughter of an admiral. The killed him and killed the girl too.
Kai! What is Nigeria turning into. If military guys ain't safe, how will it be for us civilians?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 9:15pm On Jul 10, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


How do you measure success? By a standard country like Nigeria sitting duck and wait for us to be attacked.

I don't know what measures GEJ used in 2015 pre-election. But I think we need that tempo

Bro please, what exactly is your displeasure with the army..... from March till May, we were attacking and we still attack sometimes with air strikes.... if we dont defend positions by repelling attacks, na una go still complain of ISWAP capturing towns and army bases....

Am sorry but I can't figure it out... yes soldiers died and more will die,,,, but what is your personal grudge in this war ?? Your own complain is too much, you complain more than the soldiers who are dying sef,,, wetin happen

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 9:18pm On Jul 10, 2020
patwilly:

Kai! What is Nigeria turning into. If military guys ain't safe, how will it be for us civilians?

Common sense is not common. If a navy man is travelling unarmed,,,, abeg remove your uniform abeg. Because highway thieves will be threatened and may attack you... its a sad loss.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:19pm On Jul 10, 2020
The Security forces in Niger Republic have arrested some youths with drug weapons while they are trying to enter Nigeria...

The security operatives of the republic of Niger have been charged with bingogi 21 those who are allowed to join Nigeria in Sokoto State.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:20pm On Jul 10, 2020
bidexiii:
The Security forces in Niger Republic have arrested some youths with drug weapons while they are trying to enter Nigeria...

The security operatives of the republic of Niger have been charged with bingogi 21 those who are allowed to join Nigeria in Sokoto State.


Our borders are so porous, we have to do something about it!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:22pm On Jul 10, 2020
Video screen grab from NAF strike on Bandits in Kagara forest, Zamfara state

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 9:25pm On Jul 10, 2020
bidexiii:
Video screen grab from NAF strike on Bandits in Kagara forest, Zamfara state

Thanks for this pic. I hope the complainers will see that we are not "sitting ducks". We are actually attacking with intel and air-strikes.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 9:26pm On Jul 10, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


Bro please, what exactly is your displeasure with the army..... from March till May, we were attacking and we still attack sometimes with air strikes.... if we dont defend positions by repelling attacks, na una go still complain of ISWAP capturing towns and army bases....

Am sorry but I can't figure it out... yes soldiers died and more will die,,,, but what is your personal grudge in this war ?? Your own complain is too much, you complain more than the soldiers who are dying sef,,, wetin happen
me tire oo
If we talk now, dem go say we dey form faction.. I no know how much we dey recieve for this faction sef..

It's natural to mourn and clamour for a better performance and result.. it's another thing to castigate and churn out hate against the same people ensuring this terrorism hasn't escalated to our door steps yet..

If not for this same army, I don't think I and you will be here typing this thing now nor will he be in Maiduguri chilling with his beer as he calls it..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:29pm On Jul 10, 2020
bidexiii:



Our borders are so porous, we have to do something about it!
Customs, Immigration, Police, Civil defence and other supporting paramilitary agencies should be massively deployed and properly equipped to man the very porous borders and the communities around esp in the north that is where the real work lies, not in the airports or seaports where they become over night millionaires. The army is highly overstretched and stressed to elastic limit, the NA should only be concerned with advancing, dislodging terrorists and not holding grounds this is where paramilitary organisations should fit in.
These paramilitary outfits should conduct massive recruitment for this reason, atleast govt in one hand will improve border security, while creating employment for the teeming youths wandering about doing nothing.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2020
ugo4u:

Customs, Immigration, Police, Civil defence and other supporting paramilitary agencies should be massively deployed and properly equipped to man the very porous borders and the communities around esp in the north that is where the real work lies, not in the airports or seaports where they become over night millionaires. The army is highly overstretched and stressed to elastic limit, the NA should only be concerned with advancing, dislodging terrorists and not holding grounds this is where paramilitary organisations should fit in.
These paramilitary outfits should conduct massive recruitment for this reason, atleast govt in one hand will improve border security, while creating employment for the teeming youths wandering about doing nothing.


Honestly if am Mr President; I will change the Nigerian civil defense to Nigerian National Guards they will be rebranded, well equipped and they will be trained like the army, airforce and navy.
There core responsibilities will be securing our borders, they’ll be first inline when there is an external aggression before the other arms of the military are on ground, in case of man-made disaster and natural disaster, they will be in charge of other interior conflicts like the kidnapping and banditry.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:52pm On Jul 10, 2020
bidexiii:



Honestly if am Mr President; I will change the Nigerian civil defense to Nigerian National Guards they will be rebranded, well equipped and they will be trained like the army, airforce and navy.
There core responsibilities will be securing our borders, they’ll be first inline when there is an external aggression before the other arms of the military are on ground, in case of man-made disaster and natural disaster, they will be in charge of other interior conflicts like the kidnapping and banditry.
I said almost exactly same thing today with an NSCDC officer, I told him that their role should be amended in the constitution to "be fit for purpose" most of them currently are just chilling in their offices in local govts collecting salary while flexing muscle with Policemen on securing "customers" to do security job at owambes, and out sourcing their men to do security work for politicians, banks etc. The man told me that govt should establish a new outfit for border protection that, in his words "e no concern us" grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:18pm On Jul 10, 2020
bidexiii:


You don’t like it, go to hell !
It’s military related and it’s Nigeria military undecided

There is vehemence in the tone and diction of your words.

But why ❓ I am puzzled.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:00pm On Jul 10, 2020
ugo4u:

Customs, Immigration, Police, Civil defence and other supporting paramilitary agencies should be massively deployed and properly equipped to man the very porous borders and the communities around esp in the north that is where the real work lies, not in the airports or seaports where they become over night millionaires. The army is highly overstretched and stressed to elastic limit, the NA should only be concerned with advancing, dislodging terrorists and not holding grounds this is where paramilitary organisations should fit in.
These paramilitary outfits should conduct massive recruitment for this reason, atleast govt in one hand will improve border security, while creating employment for the teeming youths wandering about doing nothing.

Agreed without reservation or question.

First of all three is a long standing hangover from military rule. That hangover that was birthed from mistrust and indeed the quest of the army airforce and navy to hold on to political power.

The police have always been closer to civilian and they have more manpower. So there was concerted action to downgrade and limit the power and capacity of the police so they cannot contend with the army or neutralise any attempt to prevent a coup.

I was expected a Jonathan Goodluck to know this but he did not think strategically. Former General will keep the status quo.

In Iraq it was the Federal police who were right in the forefront of the battle for Mosul.

The police are more often than not fighting with criminals who are on par with them with regards to weaponry. In general all the police have are AK47's. Criminals gave upgraded but we have not upgraded the police.

In this regard l would immediately restructure the Nigerian mobile police. You are probably taking about 30,000 personal ( guess work) in the Mobil police.

In addition l will stop Mobile police doing guard duty for politicians and manning road blocks, etc.

It will not take a huge amount of retraining. It's the equipment they should have. Immediately procure 1500 assorted armoured vehicles. They will be given 30,000 new assault rifles with optic sights as standard, grenade launchers, 50 Cal. sniper rifles, LMG, paper body armour, Rpg7's, heavy motorised precision mortars.

The mobile police will hold territory and ensure that we have completed control. Then the army has to be more focused on search and destroy not REPEL and wait for Boko to return.

At the moment from the way Boko Haram are able to carry out ambushes it loos like they are laying seige on our Forward bases.

As soon as combatants leave the safety of the base they are easy targets. So Boko at literally controlling the surrounding territory and we are sitting in our super camp bases it seems.

With regards to Boko Haram having pre warning or better intelligence, l doubt it.

I have never seen or had a first hand report of what happens or the modus operandi of Boko in carrying out ambushes.

But from what l have seen l can make a quasi informed deduction of what actually is going on. We know the NA is never going to give us that detail that will not show them in the best light.

One of the first things l noticed by the NA is a notion that there is great strength in numbers, seems we move in large 50 vehicle convoys.

Possibly with a few MRAP's taking a frontal positions. And the vast majority of vehicles probably 80% are soft skinned.

Next thing l notice we follow the same routes time and time again. That means you don't need any prior notice you just need patience. They will be waiting knowing the NA will use this road regularly.

Third thing it seems, we don't have a clear offensive contingency plan to mitigate against ambushes.

Finally, once the convoy gets hit l suspect more probable is a point ambush. Then pandemonium sinks it and everybody keeps going and leave behind those that get hit. Some obviously leave thier vehicles and run through the bush to find safety. Complete chaos and confusion.

I'll leave my assumptive projection here to see what people have experienced and or if my projections are Balderdash.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 11:28pm On Jul 10, 2020
komekn:


Agreed without reservation or question.

First of all three is a long standing hangover from military rule. That hangover that was birthed from mistrust and indeed the quest of the army airforce and navy to hold on to political power.

The police have always been closer to civilian and they have more manpower. So there was concerted action to downgrade and limit the power and capacity of the police so they cannot contend with the army or neutralise any attempt to prevent a coup.

I was expected a Jonathan Goodluck to know this but he did not think strategically. Former General will keep the status quo.

In Iraq it was the Federal police who were right in the forefront of the battle for Mosul.

The police are more often than not fighting with criminals who are on par with them with regards to weaponry. In general all the police have are AK47's. Criminals gave upgraded but we have not upgraded the police.

In this regard l would immediately restructure the Nigerian mobile police. You are probably taking about 30,000 personal ( guess work) in the Mobil police.

In addition l will stop Mobile police doing guard duty for politicians and manning road blocks, etc.

It will not take a huge amount of retraining. It's the equipment they should have. Immediately procure 1500 assorted armoured vehicles. They will be given 30,000 new assault rifles with optic sights as standard, grenade launchers, 50 Cal. sniper rifles, LMG, paper body armour, Rpg7's, heavy motorised precision mortars.

The mobile police will hold territory and ensure that we have completed control. Then the army has to be more focused on search and destroy not REPEL and wait for Boko to return.

At the moment from the way Boko Haram are able to carry out ambushes it loos like they are laying seige on our Forward bases.

As soon as combatants leave the safety of the base they are easy targets. So Boko at literally controlling the surrounding territory and we are sitting in our super camp bases it seems.

With regards to Boko Haram having pre warning or better intelligence, l doubt it.

I have never seen or had a first hand report of what happens or the modus operandi of Boko in carrying out ambushes.

But from what l have seen l can make a quasi informed deduction of what actually is going on. We know the NA is never going to give us that detail that will not show them in the best light.

One of the first things l noticed by the NA is a notion that there is great strength in numbers, seems we move in large 50 vehicle convoys.

Possibly with a few MRAP's taking a frontal positions. And the vast majority of vehicles probably 80% are soft skinned.

Next thing l notice we follow the same routes time and time again. That means you don't need any prior notice you just need patience. They will be waiting knowing the NA will use this road regularly.

Third thing it seems, we don't have a clear offensive contingency plan to mitigate against ambushes.

Finally, once the convoy gets hit l suspect more probable is a point ambush. Then pandemonium sinks it and everybody keeps going and leave behind those that get hit. Some obviously leave thier vehicles and run through the bush to find safety. Complete chaos and confusion.

I'll leave my assumptive projection here to see what people have experienced and or if my projections are Balderdash.







So we should read all this abi,,, you sef na boko typist cheesy

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by hunter21(m): 1:44am On Jul 11, 2020
This is very hot in my mind and I am going to drop it here.

The problem we have with this war is that we don't have an "army", what we have is a "cult" .
In a population of about 230,000,000 people the army is only 250,000 the ratio is too large and because of this there is a disconnect between the military and the populace

Nigeria fought a civil war with 250,000 (possibly more than) troops, what was our population then and what is our population now?

Boko Haram, bandits, 1 million boys, what ever name they give themselves, they are all the same thing, terrorists and the police has no business with them. we need Army national guard and army reserves . We need a land force not less than 750,000 men in active and reserve then we can start talking about secuirity/defence

We can stay here and continue posting endless pictures of war weary soldiers fighting Modern Warfare with 20 rounds per man

Or we can start stoning the hard truth like Lance corporal Martins idanpkin

I swear I don't even want to see 1 more fvcking picture again

are we winning or not?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:07am On Jul 11, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


Oga please tell Buratai and Buhari to increase the tempo. The moment we keep waiting always for them to attack will give them so much powers to control the roads. Currently Monguno road ISWAP has created a legal VCP. They should be on the run smiley

When you don't attack someone and he always comes to your house in search of you, definitely you have given him power to run the streets

I agree

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:09am On Jul 11, 2020
bidexiii:



Our borders are so porous, we have to do something about it!
our NIS guys aren't serious people
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:19am On Jul 11, 2020
hunter21:
This is very hot in my mind and I am going to drop it here.

The problem we have with this war is that we don't have an "army", what we have is a "cult" .
In a population of about 230,000,000 people the army is only 250,000 the ratio is too large and because of this there is a disconnect between the military and the populace

Nigeria fought a civil war with 250,000 (possibly more than) troops, what was our population then and what is our population now?

Boko Haram, bandits, 1 million boys, what ever name they give themselves, they are all the same thing, terrorists and the police has no business with them. we need Army national guard and army reserves . We need a land force not less than 750,000 men in active and reserve then we can start talking about secuirity/defence

We can stay here and continue posting endless pictures of war weary soldiers fighting Modern Warfare with 20 rounds per man

Or we can start stoning the hard truth like Lance corporal Martins idanpkin

I swear I don't even want to see 1 more fvcking picture again

are we winning or not?
If you had waited till daybreak at least, your mind would have cooled and you'd not have typed this.

WTH do you mean a cult? 750k soldiers will be fed, trained and oiled with what budget? You'd be contributing your salary? The less than 200k army we have now, how far with them. You want more bodies in the ground with the way we're going?

Have you ever thought that most of our security problems stem from societal ills and are chickens that we refused to slaughter as chicks that are now coming to roost?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 3:00am On Jul 11, 2020
Odunayaw:
our NIS guys aren't serious people
People wey dey busy dey run street for airport/seaports the unlucky ones are condemned to offices where dey pick koboko from passport runs. NIS sometimes last year graduated a set of combatants who were issued Tavor rifles and sexy camos, one would have expected them to be stationed in volatile border communities and rotated as time goes by but Lai Lai! they've converted them to be following their Senior Ogas as escorts. There is a unit that I always see pass my area regularly, well armed and kitted NIS men, if you see them you might mistaken them for black US soldiers but na VIP protection them they do, one of the officers even had an altercation with a street guy and the idiot pulled out his commando knife and be forming KingKong when he is meant to be in northeast.
Police/NSCDC/NIS are totally almost useless had it being KPIs are being carried out on gov't agencies them for don shutdown many. We need a total overhaul of the entire system, and it starts from the way we conduct recruitments. The army has its own problems but so far they and the Airforce have justified to a reasonable extent the money spent on them (Recurrent expenditures).
Navy and Customs are Siamese twins, na enjoyment those ones dey, why the Navy and Airforce have more welfare packages and incentives for their officers than army remains a mystery to me, it could be maybe because of their small size but I just don't get it.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 3:11am On Jul 11, 2020
Toju200:
Here's how I major Success.
Boko Haram that was once able to Carry out bomb attacks in Abuja,Kogi,Bauchi e.t.c Hardly succeedes in Maiduguri,They onced attacked our Airbase and Destroyed 5 attack aircrafts,They Shot down two Mi24 back then in 2014/2015 currently,Our military busted Their Rocket facilities if that was still operational guy by now Some super camps will be under constant attack am I right... I'll keep naming more if u want but sub Don finish grin
We shouldn't decieve ourselves, that Bokoharam has stopped attacking other cities dosen't mean they don't have the capacity. It's more of a change in strategy for them, they'll rather concentrate their firepower on their enclaves/strongholds to achieve maximum effect than spread their tentacles all over thus putting a strain on their main objective which is to carve out an enclave to administer their own brand of Islam in the Northeast. If they decide to even attack Lagos today, I don't think we have the wherewithal to be proactive. Maybe Amotekun might come to the rescue but those ones never even face Agberos sef.
Ask yourself if we have any concrete security setup in say Kaduna, Kogi and even Abuja.
Any idiot can walk into any market or crowded place and drop an IED without being detected just forget na God dey protect person.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:28am On Jul 11, 2020
ISWAP/BH engaging in a fierce fight right now at Ngala.

May God bless our Gallant men cool
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 3:40am On Jul 11, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:
ISWAP/BH engaging in a fierce fight right now at Ngala.

May God bless our Gallant men cool


Seems this is the real deal attack , coming at midnight, and not a probe.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:47am On Jul 11, 2020
Tobiloba2407:



Seems this is the real deal attack , coming at midnight, and not a probe.

Tho I don't know how intense it is, but most of my paddies there have moved to their hibernation rooms and bunkers.

God is in control cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:08am On Jul 11, 2020
komekn:


There is vehemence in the tone and diction of your words.

But why ❓ I am puzzled.

And there is a lot of stupidity and provocative tone in your words also.
Posted what is Nigerian military related issue and what might also benefit interested Nigerians you took it another awkward dimension ?
What have been posting for years, you came saying jargons.
You should ask your self the same question?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by UltimateDreamer: 6:10am On Jul 11, 2020
outflank

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