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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:43am On Jul 11, 2020

rottennaija:
That's why he was never able to tell which truth he has. Have asked him that question on 2 occasions so far and he hasn't been able to come up with a response yet.

I see you're still waiting for answers.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:44am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
This is the funniest post you've ever made on the forum!
You're not looking for another organisation to join, it's not by force. Yet you're not comfortable seeing those unitedly worshiping their God with one accord!
Why not just forget about this grouping thing and continue worshiping with your family at home?
Why so restless about JW Organization?

This is a public forum, you free to be anything you want.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 9:45am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
Thanks God i'm not a freethinker!

So how do you know that one is knowledgeable if the person you're comparing him with doesn't even exist?

Inasmuch as you exercise freewill, then you, at some level, are a freethinker, my dear loving friend.

God, the Father, is real. God, Jesus, the Son, is real. God,, is real. God, appearing as a flame on bush, that wasn't not burning, is real. God that appeared as a pillar of fire at night, lightning up the way for the Israelites and as a cloud at day, shielding the Israelites, while travelling in the wilderness, is real.

God exists in everything. God exists everywhere. God doesn't stop to exist. God will be whatever it is necessary for God to be. That's why He is, I AM, that, I AM

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:47am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
I laughed at them each time they talk against the new light!

Just ask them this simple questions!
Is it the same God that's working with John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth?
How come both who lived as contemporaries did not teach the same thing regarding fasting?
Why is it that God's people have continue to improve in the understanding of godliness?
Why did God allowed his faithful servants like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses all have different understanding of the same God? Exodus 6:1-3

If they're all worshipers of the same God and their understanding about the God they worship isn't equal, why do these unbelievers expect we living during the final part of the days to have the same understanding with those who have died?
Ezekiel saw God's heavenly Organization as it's moving and it's not stationed in just one particular point, so how can we expect those who saw it standing in a place and have died know the present state of the ever moving vessel?

Jesus said "I am the fine shepherd, the sheep understand my voice and they follow me"
If only they've observed the movement of sheep as they follow their Shepherd with one spirit, they will realize that they're not true Christians!

Are you a sheep.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:48am On Jul 11, 2020

TATIME:
@ bolded is simple!
He grasped through her pics!

OK so the pictures was that of an animal that's using bleaching cream shey? cheesy

I hear you! cheesy

Now it's obvious that the GRIMMJOE boy is just an underage Nairalander, so there's no need responding to his childish posts!

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:51am On Jul 11, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
Inasmuch as you exercise freewill, then you, at some level, are a freethinker, my dear loving friend.

God, the Father, is real. God, Jesus, the Son, is real. God,, is real. God, appearing as a flame on bush, that wasn't not burning, is real. God that appeared as a pillar of fire at night, lightning up the way for the Israelites and as a cloud at day, shielding the Israelites, while travelling in the wilderness, is real.

God exists in everything. God exists everywhere. God doesn't stop to exist. God will be whatever it is necessary for God to be. That's why He is, I AM, that, I AM

You quoted the wrong person Sir, this supposed to be for GRIMMJOE! cheesy

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:52am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
See lengthy story for Maximus69!

Never mind my friend, i know you're all after the same person both the
atheist,
freethinker,
Deeperlife,
Disfellowshiped JWs and the rest!
I'm not ignorant of your grievances, even Rozz the innocent girl can see that you're all after Maximus69 that she kept speaking consolingly saying "don't let them stress you"
So the job has been done, the young lady has seen it all, you're all divided in your beliefs but against Jehovah's Witnesses you want to stand as one even with an atheist claiming freethinker!
Go and worship your own Jesus Sir, JWs are looking for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, the sheep aren't walking in a disoder manner, they're walking as one body, so there must be those taking the lead and the rest will follow in a way befitting God's people!

So after typing all this trash you saw submit and clicked it.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:56am On Jul 11, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
So after typing all this trash you saw submit and clicked it.

You are now

O n Y our O wn! huh

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:59am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
Thanks God i'm not a freethinker!

So how do you know that one is knowledgeable if the person you're comparing him with doesn't even exist?

I've said it before you don't understand what you believe in, if you do you won't believe it.

Are you more knowledgeable about Islam to a Muslim?

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:59am On Jul 11, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
Inasmuch as you exercise freewill, then you, at some level, are a freethinker, my dear loving friend.

God, the Father, is real. God, Jesus, the Son, is real. God,, is real. God, appearing as a flame on bush, that wasn't not burning, is real. God that appeared as a pillar of fire at night, lightning up the way for the Israelites and as a cloud at day, shielding the Israelites, while travelling in the wilderness, is real.

God exists in everything. God exists everywhere. God doesn't stop to exist. God will be whatever it is necessary for God to be. That's why He is, I AM, that, I AM

He has shift the GOALPOST again by saying the post is meant for GRIMMJOE.

Mr Maximus69 since God gives you free will, are you a FREETHINKER? You seem not to understand NAIRALAND. If you want to learn, you go learn. If you don't want to, they will reason along with you to make you learn.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:01am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
GRIMMJOE! GRIMMJOE!! GRIMMJOE!!!

You just dey fall my hand each time you try to make any comment!

Please what exactly concerns a freethinker with someone bleaching her own skin?

I thought freethinkers mind their own business and don't think of setting standards for others!

Meanwhile how did you even know she's bleaching perhaps you can educate me, now i'm willing to learn!

I'll answer your questions, after you tell me why God allowed his temple to be rapped.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 11, 2020

TATIME:
You are now

O n Y our O wn!

Are you still responding to the immature commentator? cheesy

He doesn't worth any response, even Trinitarians have abandoned him, let him go and join his atheist family.
It's so pathetic that he doesn't even know the real meaning of the word freethinker! embarassed

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:02am On Jul 11, 2020

TATIME:
@ bolded is simple! He grasped through her pics!

And?

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 10:02am On Jul 11, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
That's why staff sergeant major himself, TATIME, had to turn up and lift morale, lmao

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 10:03am On Jul 11, 2020*

MuttleyLaff:
God, appearing as a flame on bush, that wasn't not burning, is real. God that appeared as a pillar of fire at night, lightning up the way for the Israelites and as a cloud at day, shielding the Israelites, while travelling in the wilderness, is real.

God exists in everything. God exists everywhere.

Exodus 3:2, 14:19-20, 1Kings 8:43, 19:11-12 would disagree with what you claimed @the bolded oh. The accounts from the Bible stated that it was Jehovah's angel who appeared as a representative of Jehovah himself. And that Jehovah is not a manifestation of natural elements i.e. fire, wind etc but those natural forces are just expressions of his active force, his holy spirit.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:04am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
OK so the pictures was that of an animal that's using bleaching cream shey?

I hear you!

Now it's obvious that the GRIMMJOE boy is just an underage Nairalander, so there's no need responding to his childish posts!

But you're also an animal.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:07am On Jul 11, 2020

TATIME:
You are now

O n Y our O wn!

After failing to answer any question, you still shamelessly show your face.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 10:09am On Jul 11, 2020*

Maximus69:
I laughed at them each time they talk against the new light!

Just ask them this simple questions!
Is it the same God that's working with John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth?
How come both who lived as contemporaries did not teach the same thing regarding fasting?
Why is it that God's people have continue to improve in the understanding of godliness?
Why did God allowed his faithful servants like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses all have different understanding of the same God? Exodus 6:1-3

If they're all worshipers of the same God and their understanding about the God they worship isn't equal, why do these unbelievers expect we living during the final part of the days to have the same understanding with those who have died?
Ezekiel saw God's heavenly Organization as it's moving and it's not stationed in just one particular point, so how can we expect those who saw it standing in a place and have died know the present state of the ever moving vessel?

Jesus said "I am the fine shepherd, the sheep understand my voice and they follow me"
If only they've observed the movement of sheep as they follow their Shepherd with one spirit, they will realize that they're not true Christians!

The same God that was working with John the baptist and Jesus but allowed both to teach different things in respect to fasting, but today you are expecting different churches to teach the same thing.

Maximus69, are you saying that God has changed now? Are you saying the god that permitted John and Jesus to have different beliefs with regards to fasting is now expecting all religion today to believe the same thing? You keep shooting yourself in the leg.

Maximus69, like I told you the other time. You are suffering from serious internal conflict and consistency. You don't see to know what you want

Achorladey, Rozz, TATIME, DappaD

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:10am On Jul 11, 2020

achorladey:
He has shift the GOALPOST again by saying the post is meant for GRIMMJOE.

Mr Maximus69 since God gives you free will, are you a FREETHINKER? You seem not to understand NAIRALAND. If you want to learn, you go learn. If you don't want to, they will reason along with you to make you learn.

I believe this guys should sit down and ask them self, why I'm I failing to answer any of this questions.

Or it could just be they are trying to protect their illusion.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:12am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
Are you still responding to the immature commentator?

He doesn't worth any response, even Trinitarians have abandoned him, let him go and join his atheist family.
It's so pathetic that he doesn't even know the real meaning of the word freethinker!

Here's a simple question, what is free thinking.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:14am On Jul 11, 2020*

GRIMMJOE:
I've said it before you don't understand what you believe in, if you do you won't believe it.

Are you more knowledgeable about Islam to a Muslim?

GRIMMJOE: I've said it before you don't understand what you believe in, if you do you won't believe it.

Achorladey: Let me break this down a bit.

Maximus69: I am not a freethinker

GRIMMJOE: GRIMMJOE knows that Maximus69 believed in God giving humans Free will. The reason GRIMMJOE will say the following....... "I've said it before you don't understand what you believe in, if you do you won't believe it.

Achorladey: the moment Maximus69 realize that he has FREEWILL which comes with the ability to FREETHINK as an INDIVIDUAL. Then Maximus69 will cease saying...... I AM NOT A FREETHINKER grin

which confirm what GRIMMJOE said that he(Maximus69) doesn't understand what he BELIEVES. When Maximus69 understands he is equally a FREETHINKER, he won't believe he is not a FREETHINKER.

GRIMMJOE is this the direction you are headed based on what Maximus69 believes? Thanks Muttleylaff for bringing the FREEWILL. Its a catalyst for this post.

The way people reason for nairaland ehn. You go learn!. Agba ki wa Loja ki ori omo titun WO.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:26am On Jul 11, 2020

DappaD:
Exodus 3:2, 14:19-20, 1Kings 8:43, 19:11-12 would disagree with what you claimed @the bolded oh. The accounts from the Bible stated that it was Jehovah's angel who appeared as a representative of Jehovah himself. And that Jehovah is not a manifestation of natural elements i.e. fire, wind etc but those natural forces are just expressions of his active force, his holy spirit!

You don quickly buy another MARKET within few hours grin

. The image go tell you the STORY grin

. You quoted him AGAIN grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:26am On Jul 11, 2020

Exactly, it's like an idol worshipper, to him he understand what he's worshipping, but if he did he'll know an idol is just an idol, just like a book is just a book.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:01am On Jul 11, 2020

rottennaija:
The same God that was working with John the baptist and Jesus but allowed both to teach different things in respect to fasting, but today you are expecting different churches to teach the same thing.

Maximus69, are you saying that God has changed now? Are you saying the god that permitted John and Jesus to have different beliefs with regards to fasting is now expecting all religion today to believe the same thing? You keep shooting yourself in the leg.

Maximus69, like I told you the other time. You are suffering from serious internal conflict and consistency. You don't see to know what you want

Achorladey, Rozz, TATIME, DappaD

There i catch you with a simple bait! grin

I know you will enter the trap! cheesy

Nevertheless i'll educate you! cheesy

John was Jesus' cousin, Jehovah's spirit worked with both of them {Mark 11:29-33} yet when John saw Jesus began his ministry he asked his disciples to go and join Jesus' followers because he admitted that Jesus is from the same source as he is and that Jesus knows better than he does {John 3:25-30} and Apollos was a disciple of John but he have to join Jesus' followers that knew better than John himself! Act 18:24-28

So did the two groups continued separately or the followers of John joined Jesus' group? cheesy

Sorry my friend, you don't know what is called intelligence! wink

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 11:07am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
There i catch you with a simple bait!

I know you will enter the trap!

Nevertheless i'll educate you!

John was Jesus' cousin, Jehovah's spirit worked with both of them {Mark 11:29-33} yet when John saw Jesus began his ministry he asked his disciples to go and join Jesus' followers because he admitted that Jesus is from the same source as he is and that Jesus knows better than he does {John 3:25-30} and Apollos was a disciple of John but he have to join Jesus' followers that knew better than John himself! Act 18:24-28

So did the two groups continued separately or the followers of John joined Jesus' group?

Sorry my friend, you don't know what is called intelligence!

You see why you have no ounce of intelligence and you think I fall for easy trap. So how quickly you jump from fasting to joining Jesus group. How many of John's disciples joined Jesus while both were alive?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:11am On Jul 11, 2020

Maximus69:
There i catch you with a simple bait!

I know you will enter the trap!

Nevertheless i'll educate you!

John was Jesus' cousin, Jehovah's spirit worked with both of them {Mark 11:29-33} yet when John saw Jesus began his ministry he asked his disciples to go and join Jesus' followers because he admitted that Jesus is from the same source as he is and that Jesus knows better than he does {John 3:25-30} and Apollos was a disciple of John but he have to join Jesus' followers that knew better than John himself! Act 18:24-28

So did the two groups continued separately or the followers of John joined Jesus' group?

Sorry my friend, you don't know what is called intelligence!

You seem not to understand, what he asked you? or you don't know what to say.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 11:14am On Jul 11, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
You seem not to understand, what he asked you? or you don't know what to say.

Don't mind him. He seems to think we are all distracted by his redherring of long distracting and even deviative post.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:18am On Jul 11, 2020*

I can see atheists, exJWs, churchgoers all united in one thought despite their differing beliefs/stands grin

Very interesting.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:24am On Jul 11, 2020

DappaD:
I can see atheists, exJWs, churchgoers all united in one thought despite their differing beliefs/stands
Very interesting!

And this was suppose to score you a cheap point?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:26am On Jul 11, 2020

rottennaija:
Don't mind him. He seems to think we are all distracted by his redherring of long distracting and even deviative post.

He's a walking fallacy.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:32am On Jul 11, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
And this was suppose to score you a cheap point?

I only stated facts chief! grin

The people you're in agreement with on this thread believe that God exists, why haven't you been on their tail yet? cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:33am On Jul 11, 2020

rottennaija:
You see why you have no ounce of intelligence and you think I fall for easy trap. So how quickly you jump from fasting to joining Jesus group. How many of John's disciples joined Jesus while both were alive?

At least John made it clear to his disciples that Jesus and his group have the key to everlasting life and instantly some of his disciples followed Jesus! John 1:35-38

Even when both were contemporaries, John still advised his followers to go and join Jesus' group because both groups are for the same purpose!

So if you're all for the same purpose you should be merging together as one and doing things in common not with this contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! cheesy

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