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LordReed:
I have no such unseen desire. If you are talking about the desire for mystery or beauty, a lot of art and literature fulfills that beyond words.

I'd say yours is only a case of "when the desired is not available...". You've settled for what you consider available.
You obviously have this desire. That's why you look for something leaning towards the satisfaction of it daily.
Apart from all work towards the sustenance of the body, you live trying to satisfy this hidden desire.
Binging on movies, more science digest, meeting friends and seeking new relationships and all endeavours that humans go about are basically towards this.

DrLiveLogic:
Let logic live
I'd say yours is only a case of "when the desired is not available...". You've settled for what you consider available.
You obviously have this desire. That's why you look for something leaning towards the satisfaction of it daily.
Apart from all work towards the sustenance of the body, you live trying to satisfy this hidden desire.
Binging on movies, more science digest and knowledge quest, meeting friends and seeking new relationships and all endeavours that humans go about are basically towards this.

Just like I eat food daily, what is strange about consuming movies and seeking relationships daily? Have you ever seen any appetite that is ever satisfied once and forever? What makes you think this appetite is for a god?

LordReed:
Just like I eat food daily, what is strange about consuming movies and seeking relationships daily? Have you ever seen any appetite that is ever satisfied once and forever? What makes you think this appetite is for a god?

Unlike food that can actually fill your belly when you've eaten enough to the point you can't take more until you exercise it off, this desire never gets filled by all these things. The more you consume these, the more you need to consume, rather like a reverse. You're ever hungrier, never full.
There must be an "unseen" that's supposed to fill that the unseen desire and get you fully satisfied.
But if you are currently deceived to think you're okay with what's visible and don't need God to fill that space, he'll wait till when you realize you need him but I can assure you this is all he wants to do with you and why he created you not for some heavy yokes and religious rites.

DrLiveLogic:
Unlike food that can actually fill your belly when you've eaten enough to the point you can't take more until you exercise it off, this desire never gets filled by all these things. The more you consume these, the more you need to consume, rather like a reverse. You're ever hungrier, never full.
There must be an "unseen" that's supposed to fill that the unseen desire and get you fully satisfied.
But if you are currently deceived to think you're okay with what's visible and don't need God to fill that space, he'll wait till when you realize you need him but I can assure you this is all he wants to do with you and why he created you not for some heavy yokes and religious rites.

So you've seen where someone ate once and never had to eat again? Show us this person.

There is no appetite that ever gets satisfied once and forever. Your analogy is false.

LordReed:
So you've seen where someone ate once and never had to eat again? Show us this person.

There is no appetite that ever gets satisfied once and forever. Your analogy is false.

With food you do get full and can't take in more before you actually burn it out.
But with this unseen desire, it's never filled at any point but only needing more. Ever hungrier, never full.

If you don't see this now, you will at some point in life. At that time, he'll be waiting for you.

DrLiveLogic:
With food you do get full and can't take in more before you actually burn it out.
But with this unseen desire, it's never filled at any point but only needing more. Ever hungrier, never full.

If you don't see this now, you will at some point in life. At that time, he'll be waiting for you.

Again there is no such desire. No desire is perpetual and never gets satisfied for a time. You are merely struggling to carve out this imaginary desire.

DrLiveLogic:
Let Logic Live!

The proof that there's something like physical water is the thirst in your body. The proof that there's something like physical food is that there's hunger programmed into your body.
All our body's requirements were already provided for in the physical creation. The creator obviously prepared the world for man.
A newborn baby has never seen water or food but his hunger and thirst are his proof that there is since he was created to live on earth and not to die.
The proof that there's a an unseen God is that there's an unseen desire in every human that needs satisfaction. You do not see this desire yet cannot deny it's reality.
As He is faithful to provide in the physical, He will be faithful to satisfy this spiritual desire. Sadly men turn to the things seen to be satisfied and alas after so, find the emptiness.

How is this logical?


I'm thirsty therefore water exists even if i have never seen it before...

Why would you assume this?

The evidence for water is water..not thirst.

DrLiveLogic:
With food you do get full and can't take in more before you actually burn it out.
But with this unseen desire, it's never filled at any point but only needing more. Ever hungrier, never full.

If you don't see this now, you will at some point in life. At that time, he'll be waiting for you.

Sir....just sit back and read your post again...

People do get burnt out on everything if they have too much of it ever too often....when the opposite happens it becomes a disorder...even with food. Review your post please.

Yes. As The Creator of The Environment in which you live.

LordReed:
Again there is no such desire. No desire is perpetual and never gets satisfied for a time. You are merely struggling to carve out this imaginary desire.

WRONG AGAIN!

Desires Do get Satisfied only that very few men have achieved it.

And they never achieved it by their own strength but because they have successfully Learnt All That the Lord Taught, hence, they are Given The Rivers of Life, Which Satisfies Every Soul who drinks from it!

Hence the Truth of what He told the Samaritan woman "you shall Never Thirst Again".

DrLiveLogic:
With food you do get full and can't take in more before you actually burn it out.
But with this unseen desire, it's never filled at any point but only needing more. Ever hungrier, never full.

If you don't see this now, you will at some point in life. At that time, he'll be waiting for you.

I am sure you do not know that you are arguing with One of the Chief Haters of God in here and Antichrist in the flesh. And no sound reason on earth and in heaven can ever change this corrupted soul!

Check out his posts and see how he has swallowed up other souls who once battled and resisted him. But later, gave in to him. Observation! If you do not see his post, do not be perplexed for he can even remove his post, I think he is a moderator or has access to one or something!

He is an example of the very souls spoken of in 2 Peter 2

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:

Dtruthspeaker:
WRONG AGAIN!

Desires Do get Satisfied only that very few men have achieved it.

And they never achieved it by their own strength but because they have successfully Learnt All That the Lord Taught, hence, they are Given The Rivers of Life, Which Satisfies Every Soul who drinks from it!

Hence the Truth of what He told the Samaritan woman "you shall Never Thirst Again".

So after this do they stop praying, stop fellowship with others, stop reading the bible?

Dtruthspeaker:
I am sure you do not know that you are arguing with One of the Chief Haters of God in here and Antichrist in the flesh. And no sound reason on earth and in heaven can ever change this corrupted soul!

Check out his posts and see how he has swallowed up other souls who once battled and resisted him. But later, gave in to him. Observation! If you do not see his post, do not be perplexed for he can even remove his post, I think he is a moderator or has access to one or something!

He is an example of the very souls spoken of in 2 Peter 2

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:

Bwahahahahahaha! I told you, you are having nightmares. LMFAO!

LordReed:
So after this do they stop praying, stop fellowship with others, stop reading the bible?

Naaah! The Praises Go On Unceasingly, because, We Have Entered into His Endless Goodness and Goodnesses. And He is Always Breaking Our Former Records of Goodness and Making New Ones, even when we did not Ask, thereby fulfilling His Word

"No eye has seen, No ear has heard, Nor has it entered into the heart of Any man, What the Lord has in store for (And Only for) Those Who Truly Love Him!"

So He Gives us New Goods even while we have not yet finished thanking Him for the Last Goods which we are still enjoying which He Gave us!

So We Praise On, for blessings past and blessings present and blessings to come, which Always Come! Whow!! He is Greatly Good and There is No End To His Goodness!

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! I told you, you are having nightmares. LMFAO!

Naaah!

I Am Having A Partyyyy!!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
Naaah!

I Am Having A Partyyyy!!!!

A nightmare party, I get you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Naaah! The Praises Go On Unceasingly, because, We Have Entered into His Endless Goodness and Goodnesses. And He is Always Breaking Our Former Records of Goodness and Making New Ones, even when we did not Ask, thereby fulfilling His Word

"No eye has seen, No ear has heard, Nor has it entered into the heart of Any man, What the Lord has in store for (And Only for) Those Who Truly Love Him!"

So He Gives us New Goods even while we have not yet finished thanking Him for the Last Goods which we are still enjoying which He Gave us!

So We Praise On, for blessings past and blessings present and blessings to come, which Always Come! Whow!! He is Greatly Good and There is No End To His Goodness!

Bwahahahahaha! Keep lying to yourself as if is only praises you do do to keep up your faith in god. LMFAO!

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Keep lying to yourself as if is only praises you do do to keep up your faith in god. LMFAO!

Did you not hear that the Lord dwells (Lives) in the Praises of His People?

I Love Having Him Being with Me All Day, Every Day and Night and Day again and Night Again and...

And You Know, when He Comes, It's Christmas Time, Yaaaay! It's-A-Paartyy!!!

Therevenger:
God said so or people told you God said so?
I am curious please explain i want to learn.

And if I tell you God told me, would you believe me?.

1Corinthians 2:14 sums up everything. You can't understand the things of God, when you're already grandstanding against his principles and reality. We (men)bend to His will not the other way round. I've never seen a drowning man given his rescuer condition on how he should be rescued, but if the drowning man doesn't or cannot see his danger, then that's a terrible condition. It's worst than sickness.

LordReed:
I have never seen your god creating any life. All I see are people, animals and insects giving birth or multiplying in some way.

Then you agree that you don't exist or you're a mistake, else how did you come about, big bang?. If so why hasn't the big bang happened again?.

The problem some of you have is that you try to box God into the little human reality and space. Assuming God appears like he is to you, can you survive it?. How you think to fix the maker of universes into a tiny little planet, and make him to adjust to your limited sense is in itself senseless.

You can't see the full frame of a picture while being the picture itself, come out of the frame, then you can see the full frame. No man, not even angels can know everything about God. But for a man to look at everything as they're in order, and still think them to be a mistake, is pitiable.

Primesky:
And if I tell you God told me, would you believe me?.

1Corinthians 2:14 sums up everything. You can't understand the things of God, when you're already grandstanding against his principles and reality. We (men)bend to His will not the other way round. I've never seen a drowning man given his rescuer condition on how he should be rescued, but if the drowning man doesn't or cannot see his danger, then that's a terrible condition. It's worst than sickness.

Go back and read my last comment on this thread.

Minsk24:
Stfu... If god is giver and taker of life, then why don't you blame hin for the evils and deaths in the world..
See your mouth like god is giver and taker of life..

I'm not surprised at the stuff that come out from you. Don't worry, it's only a matter of time all these will be settled. My only prayer is that you don't realise this too late. Many people like you have come and gone, to them God was a myth. Yet, some of them pleaded with him on their dying bed to save them. Do the research yourself and be honest with yourself too about what you will find.

Whether you and I believe that God is real and exist or not will not change God from being who he is or remove anything whatsoever from him. But the leaf that says the tree on which it's fixed is useless should be ready to survive on its own. That it remains green for some time after detaching itself from the tree doesn't mean it's alive. God is the creator & possessor of all things. The life of all things came from and belong to him. Truth cannot be gainsayed. Thank you.

Primesky:


I'm not surprised at the stuff that come out from you. Don't worry, it's only a matter of time all these will be settled. My only prayer is that you don't realise this too late. Many people like you have come and gone, to them God was a myth. Yet, some of them pleaded with him on their dying bed to save them. Do the research yourself and be honest with yourself too about what you will find.

Whether you and I believe that God is real and exist or not will not change God from being who he is or remove anything whatsoever from him. But the leaf that says the tree on which it's fixed is useless should be ready to survive on its own. That it remains green for some time after detaching itself from the tree doesn't mean it's alive. God is the creator & possessor of all things. The life of all things came from and belong to him. Truth cannot be gainsayed. Thank you.

When i see folks like you, i just dy shake head...
your God only exists in your minds, and its not the status quo, as long as somebody in Born and raised in Hanoi will live his life comfortably without any knowledge of Jehovah, it shows that your god is only present in your mind and not applicable to the universe, abeg what kinda research, can a dying hindu call for Jehovah or Jesus to rescue him? Can a dying Buddhist call for Jesus?... How can you look at the evils of our world today and conclude that there's a univere god out there who's tryna save you? My point is this, organized Religion is a tool masterminded by some people to effect control and shield the truth of our existence....
If only we humans know more about ourselves and the immense powers we can harness..

frank317:
How can u say life comes from God when people are dying left right center.
This is exactly why the op is asking the need for God. If God is the giver of life why are people of all ages dying? Is he the one taking the life of all these people?

If life doesn't come from God, from who then does it come from, big bang?. The evil we all experience today is so because of sin.

Did you not read it in Genesis how God gave man the dominion and authority over earth, and man by disobedience sold it to the devil?. This is the very reason why Satan while tempting Jesus, told him boldly that all the riches and wealth of the nations have been given to him, the question is by who?. If men then gave that authority to someone whose theme is nothing but kill and destroy, why blame God, so the problem now is that God gave man the authority, right?.

Note, he didn't stop there either. He came down by himself to say hey, children, do this and this, follow me in this way and that, and the devil will not exercise that stolen authority over you, man still says no, it must be my way or no way. Whose fault then?.

When you talk about death, I sense you only limit it to physical death, the most painful and cruelest of all is the eternal death which is still a fall out of the bad choice of man. God took care of that first.

Have you not read, or heard that those who die in the Lord will be raised again?. Was the very son of God not killed, but raised again?. All his faithful disciples went the same way. Does that then negate the truth that God gives life, if He doesn't have that ability how did Jesus rise or how did Jesus raise others like Lazarus?.

First thing first, deal with the deadly eternal virus called sin, else there is no way out, we all sold out to the enemy of our lives, and there's no freedom without the price of spotless blood, a price only Jesus could pay. If you have him, physical death means nothing.

Jesus promised that those who loose their life here on earth for his sake, will find it again, but not so with others. This is the price of life speaking. So focus your anger on the enemy himslwf, not the one who came to save you.

God will not jump his set time, or break His word.Things will continue to go downhill until the time God has schedule to take control, until then, the destroyer will keep doing what he likes doing, which is to kill and destroy, only checked by those who have received Jesus's authority, while the devil make slaves of those who have him not.

Primesky:
Then you agree that you don't exist or you're a mistake, else how did you come about, big bang?. If so why hasn't the big bang happened again?.

The problem some of you have is that you try to box God into the little human reality and space. Assuming God appears like he is to you, can you survive it?. How you think to fix the maker of universes into a tiny little planet, and make him to adjust to your limited sense is in itself senseless.

You can't see the full frame of a picture while being the picture itself, come out of the frame, then you can see the full frame. No man, not even angels can know everything about God. But for a man to look at everything as they're in order, and still think them to be a mistake, is pitiable.

Did you read what I wrote? You seem to be responding to someone else because I sure wrote nothing about big bang or anything being by mistake.

Primesky:
If life doesn't come from God, from who then does it come from, big bang?. The evil we all experience today is so because of sin.

Did you not read it in Genesis how God gave man the dominion and authority over earth, and man by disobedience sold it to the devil?. This is the very reason why Satan while tempting Jesus, told him boldly that all the riches and wealth of the nations have been given to him, the question is by who?. If men then gave that authority to someone whose theme is nothing but kill and destroy, why blame God, so the problem now is that God gave man the authority, right?.

Note, he didn't stop there either. He came down by himself to say hey, children, do this and this, follow me in this way and that, and the devil will not exercise that stolen authority over you, man still says no, it must be my way or no way. Whose fault then?.

When you talk about death, I sense you only limit it to physical death, the most painful and cruelest of all is the eternal death which is still a fall out of the bad choice of man. God took care of that first.

Have you not read, or heard that those who die in the Lord will be raised again?. Was the very son of God not killed, but raised again?. All his faithful disciples went the same way. Does that then negate the truth that God gives life, if He doesn't have that ability how did Jesus rise or how did Jesus raise others like Lazarus?.

First thing first, deal with the deadly eternal virus called sin, else there is no way out, we all sold out to the enemy of our lives, and there's no freedom without the price of spotless blood, a price only Jesus could pay. If you have him, physical death means nothing.

Jesus promised that those who loose their life here on earth for his sake, will find it again, but not so with others. This is the price of life speaking. So focus your anger on the enemy himslwf, not the one who came to save you.

God will not jump his set time, or break His word.Things will continue to go downhill until the time God has schedule to take control, until then, the destroyer will keep doing what he likes doing, which is to kill and destroy, only checked by those who have received Jesus's authority, while the devil make slaves of those who have him not.

Baba if Sin is the issue, then why did Jesus waste his time to come and die?
What do even mean by sin coz what is sin to a Ghanaian might be acceptable to a Nigerian... So that concept of sin doesn't hold water...
Jesus came and died but still sin abounds, then wht exactly did he die for? Is it nor high time people started breaking free from this religious slavery... Bros when u see the foolishness of religion, u cannot unsee it anymore, u go wonder how on earth u ever believed this concocted story

Minsk24:
When i see folks like you, i just dy shake head...
your God only exists in your minds, and its not the status quo, as long as somebody in Born and raised in Hanoi will live his life comfortably without any knowledge of Jehovah, it shows that your god is only present in your mind and not applicable to the universe, abeg what kinda research, can a dying hindu call for Jehovah or Jesus to rescue him? Can a dying Buddhist call for Jesus?... How can you look at the evils of our world today and conclude that there's a univere god out there who's tryna save you? My point is this, organized Religion is a tool masterminded by some people to effect control and shield the truth of our existence....
If only we humans know more about ourselves and the immense powers we can harness..

Are you fighting religion or are you fighting God?.

Nature itself has the answer you need, but it depends on your perspective. Some persons are priviledged to have encountered God. Some have encountered Satan and his minions. Let me tell you the fact. Satan will not borther disturbing a man who does not believe in God, because that man is already where he, Satan wants him or her to be. All the devils, demons and Satan himself believe in God, and where once his servants, then a man says that, that Gos does not exist and all the things said about him are fake and made up. The devil will simply ask, between such and me who is more foolish?.

How do you want God to act before you believe Him?. He should shout from his throne, the universe will scatter if that happens. Or he should appear to you physically, you won't survive it, Moses asked for it, and God said it's not possible, the human flesh can not bear the power and glory he carries. Ask those who have seen mere demons, some went mental.

Take this test:

Every high ranking person or personality you know has someone higher than him. Think.

Now ask yourself, where does this power and authority end, where does it begin?. That person who holds it all is the person I'm taking about. If He is that powerful and mighty, do you suppose to see him, joke about him and condition him to fit into your reasoning?.

The problem we have is that, some of his creations who fell out of grace, are envious and so wicked that they will do anything to confuse us and make us believe lies about Him so as to fallout of grace with him too.

If some persons tell you that yes, he's real and true, and you say no. What will then be your excuse for not believing in him, if you finally get to meet him as we will all do?. Can you say to him, you didn't have enough proofs and evidence, those who believe will simply be a witness against you.

So before you look at us now and shake your head, be sure you are really on the right track, because you will be accountable for your choices. This is not my pastor said this or my religion said this.

The Almighty God is Real despite the multitude of demonic strange gods, and to him we all including the so called gods who are nothing but fallen angels seeking worship account.

Lucifer, who is now Satan wanted to be worshipped as god, so also his subordinates. He hasn't stopped seeking that despite being kicked out of heaven, he even demanded it from Jesus when he came in the flesh. That explains why you have multiple deities claiming god and demanding worship each with its own method, they seemed to have shared the world and its people, more like you take this nation, people and tribe, and I take this. Satan is OK with that so long as the people are not worshipping God himself. Ultimately, Satan will unite all under one religion to worship one god, which is himself. It's a game carefully planned. But God is always ahead, that's why I know it.

Don't doubt the one who loves you bro. He is real.

Minsk24:
Baba if Sin is the issue, then why did Jesus waste his time to come and die?
What do even mean by sin coz what is sin to a Ghanaian might be acceptable to a Nigerian... So that concept of sin doesn't hold water...
Jesus came and died but still sin abounds, then wht exactly did he die for? Is it nor high time people started breaking free from this religious slavery... Bros when u see the foolishness of religion, u cannot unsee it anymore, u go wonder how on earth u ever believed this concocted story

If the death and resurrection of Jesus is a waste of time for you, it it absolutely not for me.

Sin is universal, it's not defined by tribe or religion. If you ckaimbnot to know the bible, the one who made you gave you a conscience, so no man has any excuse.

If all of these that God did through Christ is nothing for you, it is everything to me.

You're only saying this out of naivety and pride. I tell you, you won't say this if God should open your eyes to see hell for 1 minute, I mean just 1 minute. That you haven't seen it doesn't mean others haven't. Disbelieve it or not, it doesn't change a thing. The fact is we will all get there to meet God. And our choices, words and actions will determine where will go.

This concocted story as you call it, is the very plan of Salvation worked out for us by God himself. That death Jesus died on that tree, is the only life line of many souls from being put into that pit called hell. It's the greatest desire and regret of many souls too who discovered indispensability too late.

It's better you keep quiet and continue your research than to say what you don't know. There's a lot we as men don't know, but for some of us, we have seen things that we can't say it. Man be careful. God is patient and kind, but you don't want to see his angry side. I wish you know.

It's not like if you believe in God, you will pay me, neither are my calling you to my church, but this thing goes beyond religion.

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[color=] Anyone who dont want God does not want life[eternal] too

God is a word we invented to call the Director(s) of Cosmic Affairs.

Ignore the word, 'God'.

Do you think you need some level of Guidance beyond physical reality to ease your living experience?

I think Yes.

Primesky:
If the death and resurrection of Jesus is a waste of time for you, it it absolutely not for me.

Sin is universal, it's not defined by tribe or religion. If you ckaimbnot to know the bible, the one who made you gave you a conscience, so no man has any excuse.

If all of these that God did through Christ is nothing for you, it is everything to me.

You're only saying this out of naivety and pride. I tell you, you won't say this if God should open your eyes to see hell for 1 minute, I mean just 1 minute. That you haven't seen it doesn't mean others haven't. Disbelieve it or not, it doesn't change a thing. The fact is we will all get there to meet God. And our choices, words and actions will determine where will go.

This concocted story as you call it, is the very plan of Salvation worked out for us by God himself. That death Jesus died on that tree, is the only life line of many souls from being put into that pit called hell. It's the greatest desire and regret of many souls too who discovered indispensability too late.

It's better you keep quiet and continue your research than to say what you don't know. There's a lot we as men don't know, but for some of us, we have seen things that we can't say it. Man be careful. God is patient and kind, but you don't want to see his angry side. I wish you know.

It's not like if you believe in God, you will pay me, neither are my calling you to my church, but this thing goes beyond religion.

Abeg keep quiet joor and let your god talk for himself, what do u know yourself... At your age u still believe in hell fire, that's enough to tell me u know nothing, do u even know the origin of hell and why it was included in the Bible?.. Wetin u sabi? Just look at u, so u think the British brought Christianity because they believe in it? U must be a joker... Baba you are a Christian today because Africa was very weak during the colonial era and couldn't protect her beliefs, do u know thing's that have bn stolen from this continent and they replaced it with Christianity. Just look at your ignorance... This is the age of awakening and you need to get woke and discover what you are made of... The elites of this world know how to harness energy and increase their vibration, the fraudulent pastors and juju people package it to religion and juju, these are things that we all should be able to harness but they brought Christianity and made us hate our roots.... Just look at u, so u think that one day Jesus will come and take people to heaven, chai, ignoramus, if its true, believe me, the superpowers of the word will be preparing... The advanced world are busy increasing their knowledge of space so we can contact other civilizations, u dy here dy talk crap, so you think USA created a new military space force for nothing... You think all these knowledge of space is nothing, out of billions of galaxies, so your god created earth just to have relationship with you and lead you to heaven, you Bleep up big time...
Go and research about extra-terrestials and their influence in mankind and stop believing religious thrash that your pastor know thats its a scam...

Primesky:
Is life needed?. Do you want to live?.

If life is needed and you want to live, and God alone can give life, then God is the number one priority. If He takes away life,how can anybody achieve the things you listed above?.

God is too merciful, otherwise this kind of question will never arise.

This topic and it's contents are above you.