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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:54pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I had questions. I searched every where I could for answers but found only more questions. Then I decided to find the one who created all of it, including my person, believing He would surely have answers. I processed all information i could find on the subject and through process of elimination came upon the way to get to Him. And I did what it was He asked to do and He showed up, and here I am.
I want to get this right, you mean God showed up and answer all your questions.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 5:55pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I want to get this right, you mean God showed up and answer all your questions.
Yes
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:11pm On Jul 13, 2020
rabzy:
This does not mean you are inspired...application of the scriptures is different from making an inspired expression

Well you should have guessed by now..am a witness . Just bantering with you. I have missed another 80 pages of discussion.
With all due respect, you are not a Witness so shut up sir grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 6:13pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
This is what you should expect "You're not a true Jehovah's witness"
No I don't think so.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 6:14pm On Jul 13, 2020
DappaD:
With all due respect, you are not a Witness so shut up sir grin
Pls how did you come to such a strong conclusion and insult me on top
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 6:18pm On Jul 13, 2020
Maximus69:
I've tested so many religious groups after leaving Islam, though it's JWs that removed Islam from my mind with their teachings, but i tried to join a Christian group because i found it so irritating carrying bags and knocking people's doors due to my self-esteem back then, Trivina (my wife) who started studying with Jehovah's Witnesses for just 8 months have joined them in preaching from house to house yet i just want another Christian Organization that will not ask me to go out preaching. That's how i became Ajala travel through so many religious groups claiming Christians, one thing that baffles me is how they will tell you that it's not everything that's found in the Bible, there are certain things that is not written there yet the spirit teaches them!

That's when i realized that it's only JWs that are strictly following the instructions as stated in the scriptures, but all ended 2 years ago when Trivina told me "i know you're truly intelligent that's why i never bothered when you're going to other Churches, i'm 100% certain that you're coming back to the truth"

So it's not a new thing to me my brother, they're all spiritists, each follow a totally different spirit that's why they're having contradicting opinions but Satan so much blinded them to the point that instead of coming to agree within themselves, it's the one and only united family they're seeing as evil! cheesy
Hmmm... A big shout-out to sister trivina..many husbands are won without a word...come which people dey bear trivina...is she foreign?...cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:19pm On Jul 13, 2020
rabzy:
Pls how did you come to such a strong conclusion and insult me on top
All of Jehovah's Witnesses speak the same pure language! Zephaniah 3:9
So you my dear sir are not ONE of us! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:22pm On Jul 13, 2020
rabzy:
What about the billions of unrighteous ones, did they work with Jesus brothers.
If you can ask this sort of question, you're obviously not a Witness sir undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:25pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Yes
Mind sharing with the rest of the world.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 6:26pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Mind sharing with the rest of the world.
Sharing what? My personal questions for God and The answers He gave me? shocked

What I could share is the method I used in getting to Him.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:27pm On Jul 13, 2020
rabzy:
Pls how did you come to such a strong conclusion and insult me on top
It's not like I didn't warn you.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by xamuell: 6:28pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I had questions. I searched every where I could for answers but found only more questions. Then I decided to find the one who created all of it, including my person, believing He would surely have answers. I processed all information i could find on the subject and through process of elimination (and a lot of failures) came upon the way to get to Him. And I did what it was He asked to do and He showed up, and here I am.
Thanks very much.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:29pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Sharing what? My personal questions for God and The answers He gave me? shocked

What I could share is the method I used in getting to Him.
Are sure it's God you spoke to.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:32pm On Jul 13, 2020
xamuell:
Thanks very much.
I'm not certain he was an Atheist though, all Christian like claiming repentant unbelievers because it is reward by Angels dancing in heaven, you get.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 6:43pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Are sure it's God you spoke to.
I am sure it i Him.

I admit i was not sure at first. Nothing of the sort had ever happened to me or anyone really close to me so i was the ultimate skeptic. But, I was willing to hope that the one who made me would do something or at least lead me where I would find answers in my situation.

I initially thought alien intelligence at first. I also went through a period where I was willing ti believe it was the Chinese who had somehow hacked my brain frequency, transmitting messages into my mind, and making me do and say things.

But as i learned more and more, i came to accept it was indeed God of the Bible and I didn't need to be paranoid.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by xamuell: 6:45pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I'm not certain he was an Atheist though, all Christian like claiming repentant unbelievers because it is reward by Angels dancing in heaven, you get.
maybe he wasn't really an atheist? Maybe. Repenting for the sake of Angelic celebration? Probably not. That's if I get you correctly.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 6:46pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I'm not certain he was an Atheist though, all Christian like claiming repentant unbelievers because it is reward by Angels dancing in heaven, you get.
But all so-called Christians were not born Christians even if into a Christian home.

Anyways, I was not born into a Christian home, neither was I raised the Christian way. My mother adopted Christianity in my teens and we rarely saw eye to eye on it, and to this day, we still don't.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 6:57pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I am sure it i Him.

I admit i was not sure at first. Nothing of the sort had ever happened to me or anyone really close to me so i was the ultimate skeptic. But, I was willing to hope that the one who made me would do something or at least lead me where I would find answers in my situation.

I initially thought alien intelligence at first. I also went through a period where I was willing ti believe it was the Chinese who had somehow hacked my brain frequency, transmitting messages into my mind, and making me do and say things.

But as i learned more and more, i came to accept it was indeed God of the Bible and I didn't need to be paranoid.
Cool, what were the questions you asked, you don't need tell me the answer he gave.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Cool, what are the questions you asked, you don't need tell me the answer he gave.
Why - that is one of the questions I asked Him. And He proceeded to answer me using images from even my past, memories I never even knew I still had from as far back as my childhood to explain He made me for His purpose from even before my beginning.

Those images shouldnt have been possible considering the neurological situation during the time in question, but He made it happen anyways.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:01pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Why - that is one of the questions I asked Him.
Now you're been defensive because your sanity is being question.

Don't worry I only request the questions you asked, this can easily tell me what you were looking for in life, your expectation of a God, and empathy.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 7:03pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Now you're been defensive because your sanity is being question.

Don't worry I only request the questions you asked, this can easily tell me what you were looking for in life, your expectation of a God, and empathy.
You are free to conclude as you choose, yes! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:07pm On Jul 13, 2020
xamuell:
maybe he wasn't really an atheist? Maybe. Repenting for the sake of Angelic celebration? Probably not. That's if I get you correctly.
Missing the point.

Those that were not Christian before conversion are celebrated more and place on a higher stand, because they've had a taste of darkness and now have seen the light.

Islam convert to Christian you'll hear about it, this is so important to many religion that some even fake it, pay a certain person to convert then they broadcast it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:09pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You are free to conclude as you choose, yes! cheesy
Ok you talked to a God but for some reason you can't say anything about it, hmmm, why do I smell lies.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 7:20pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Ok you talked to a God but for some reason you can't say anything about it, hmmm, why do I smell lies.
I don't know undecided

I didn't talk to Him just the once though. His Spirit lives inside of His own guiding, directing, teaching, counseling and responding to their every needs throughout the day

He is definitely real
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:41pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I don't know undecided

I didn't talk to Him just the once
though. His Spirit lives inside of His own guiding, directing, teaching, counseling and responding to their every needs throughout the day

He is definitely real
If his spirit lives inside you, then you were never an atheist, as atheist don't have spirit living inside them.

@bolded, I'm guessing this where you asked why.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 7:42pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
If he's spirit lives inside you, then you were never an atheist.

@bolded, I'm guessing this where you asked why.
because His Spirit now lives inside of me means I could not have ever been an atheist? undecided

As for the bolded, He never left after the day He showed up.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:43pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
because His Spirit now lives inside of me means I could not have ever been an atheist? undecided
So you asked why and then his spirit began living inside you, make up your mind already.

It turns out all you need to do to be a Christian is ask why.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 7:54pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
So you asked why and then his spirit began living inside you, make up your mind already.

It turns out all you need to do to be a Christian is ask why.
Oh, you misunderstand.

In order to get Him to answer me, I first had to submit to, and Trust Him. That is the only way to God, and I tried every other way possible.

I even tried the popular Christian way of "confessing and accepting" , but that didn't work. By this point, the situation with my health had become desperate and I no longer had nothing to loose, so I took decided to try the one method I had not explored before, still unsure if anything would happen.

After it happened, I ran right back to my doctirs, tried to convince them that i needed an MRI done of my brain.

Be sure He did not call anyone to be a "Christian" in the sense that you know it. He calls them to trust and obey Him only, something most "Christians" never do.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:07pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Oh, you misunderstand.

In order to get Him to answer me, I first had to submit to, and Trust Him. That is the only way to God, and I tried every other way possible.

I even tried the popular Christian way of "confessing and accepting" , but that didn't work.
By this point, the situation with my health had become desperate and I no longer had nothing to loose, so I took decided to try the one method I had not explored before, still unsure if anything would happen.

After it happened, I ran right back to my doctirs, tried to convince them that i needed an MRI done of my brain.

Be sure He did not call anyone to be a "Christian" in the sense that you know it. He calls them to trust and obey Him only, something most "Christians" never do.
The two bolded are a contradiction, when you confess and accept, you're already submitting your self.

Any way I'm glad you're ok now, too bad your God let all those little children die of malaria because they never knew the requirements to qualify for miracles.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 8:11pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
The two bolded are a contradiction, when you confess and accept, you're already submitting your self.
Not the same. There are specific instructions that need to be obeyed in order to reach Him.
Accepting and confessing assumes that all that is needed is simply believing and saying to yourself that you believe.
GRIMMJOE:
Any way I'm glad you're ok now, too bad your God let all those little children die of malaria because they never knew the requirements to qualify for miracles.
what makes you think I am not going to die someday soon myself?
Almost all those who believed in Him about 2000 years ago died cruel deaths. So why fume over death and dying?

Is living really muxh better than dying? undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:41pm On Jul 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Not the same. There are specific instructions that need to be obeyed in order to reach Him.
Accepting and confessing assumes that all that is needed is simply believing and saying to yourself that you believe.
what makes you think I am not going to die someday soon myself?
Almost all those who believed in Him about 2000 years ago died cruel deaths. So why fume over death and dying?

Is living really muxh better than dying? undecided
You ran from one religion to the other till you finally found God just to save you from death you now regard as nothing to fume over.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 8:59pm On Jul 13, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
You ran from one religion to the other till you finally found God just to save you from death you now regard as nothing to fume over.
To save me from death? I still feel exactly the same about death as I did before all of this. I welcome it!

No, I was not saved from death. I went instead in search of answers because when it comes down to it, I was not willing to accept that this was all there was. I wanted to believe there was more, and it turns out there is.
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