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| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by xamuell: 9:36pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Thats no longer religion but politics. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:41pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:What of the starving children don't they deserve this more to life. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:49pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
xamuell:It is both. Religion: The feels that a whole heaven is rejoicing over your decision means you made the right one. Politics: Religion superiority, my God is the real God, see a convert. But at the end, no real problem is solved. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 9:51pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:every human deserves the same. That is why i refused to have kids of my own without first having answers sufficient for every one of their needs in life |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:00pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:I actually agree with you, every human deserve more to life, but it turns out the God you found doesn't feel this way. Well as for your kids, they are about to have the best dad ever. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by xamuell: 10:31pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:I get your point. But conscience is the in built voice of morality. The real thing to look out for is the moral alignment of your religion. Mankind chose to use religion as an instrument of division. The real problem is the tendency of some people to coerce and coercion is what makes certain religion political in nature. What the Roman Catholic Church did in time past could be described as political. This was the fault of the church leaders. Ordinarily, the inherent values of Christianity was peace. Bottom line, man is the problem and has been the problem of themselves |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:53pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
achorladey:Point of correction: Jehovah's servants is NOT a pedophiliac organization. Luke 11:42 Matthew 5:20.. "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees...., you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed, 'God, I thank You that I am not like the other men--swindlers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector" According to Jesus Christ, Is the Pharisee more righteous than Jehovah's servants ? Romans 7:18-20, Paul had his flaws, cock crowed 3 times because of Peter's sin, Achorladey is the Pharisees more righteous than Jehovah's servants? Continue to DECEIVE YOURSELF ![]() |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:53pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
xamuell:I can say the same for Islam and terrorism, Jehovah's witness and pedophiles, Catholics and the Templars, no one want to take responsibility for their actions. The Templars Knight really did help Christianity to spread though, just saying. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:04pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
achorladey:The person wey call you "Snake" for this thread, na JW ? Why did that person call you "Snake"? If you are not a BIGOT will that person call you "Snake"? Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:12am On Jul 14, 2020 |
achorladey:1) Is anyone prevented from access to JW official website? Which Source you lifted the Watchtower study articles ? *2) Why did Peter sin against Jesus when he knew it's unscriptural practice? |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by xamuell: 12:40am On Jul 14, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:I gotta read deeper into those history because truthfully, I am at loss at what to say. But your statement is right though. People should learn to be responsible for their actions because the sentence that irritates me to the core is, "the devil made me do it". Because any conscious choice you make is on you. Finito. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:48am On Jul 14, 2020 |
achorladey:The Awake! magazine reports the news and educate everyone on different subject matter in every edition- Health, Culture, etc. You wan cover up Rape / child abuse that is why that Awake! Magazine edition you screenshot dey pain you. WUCKED man !! ![]() 2005 Awake! Magazine issue on "Global Epidemic " and the other Awake! issue "Rape / Child Abuse were based on credible sources, Bros ,why E dey pain you like say JWs dey probe your hidden secrets ![]() Even before you were born JWs have been educating Jehovah's servants and the entire world about the dangers of child abuse.. Where is the cover up in this screenshot of the Watchtower study articles you posted on this forum? To teach JW parents and teach everyone who reads our Magazines how to Protect Children from Abuse, Achorladey say na cover up ![]()
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| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:59am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:John 7:16 dey your Bible? John 15:15 dey your Bible? John 17:17 dey your Bible? Revelations 1:1 dey your Bible? Bros, who taught your only teacher? ![]() Kobojunkie LIAR DECEIVING himself |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:01am On Jul 14, 2020 |
achorladey:Two Atheists showing their true colors ![]() |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:04am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Rozz:lie lie rozz the most unintelligent duh in nairaland forums |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:05am On Jul 14, 2020 |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:09am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Your Triune 3 pagan IDOLS you dey call them "Him" Okokobioko!!!! ![]() |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:50am On Jul 14, 2020 |
TATIME:false jw tatime @bold, true, and you false jw's with your habitual lying prove that you belonging with your father and god the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. @underline, how do you have sweet fellowship with a thing? |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:12am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Rozz:oh duh lie lie rozz unstable mad max and girlie tatime and you said i'm a pastor, and now you say i'm a fake pastor am i a real pastor or am i pretending to be a pastor come on now oh so most duh one, which lie is true? laughing such a fool r u, and mad max, and girlie tat |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:37am On Jul 14, 2020 |
DappaD:what, pure language like this vvv maximus69: one military intelligence officer like memaximus69: She's my QUEEN!false jw dappad, you must mean: "All of Jehovah's Witnesses speak the same puffed up and shameful language" |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:40am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Question: "Is eternal security a ‘license’ to sin? Answer: "The most frequent objection to the doctrine of eternal security is that it supposedly allows people to live any way that they want and still be saved. While this may be “technically” true, it is not true in reality. A person who has truly been redeemed by Jesus Christ will not live a life characterized by continuous, willful sin. We must draw a distinction between how a Christian should live and what a person must do in order to receive salvation. In this case one must be saved>>>meaning one can't continual to be a JW... The Bible is clear that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone {John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; John 14:6}. JW's do seem to leave the Name Jesus out of their picture.. The moment a person truly believes in Jesus Christ, he or she is saved and secure in that salvation. It is unbiblical to say that salvation is received by faith, but then has to be maintained by works. The apostle Paul addresses this issue in {Galatians 3:3} when he asks, “Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?” If we are saved by faith, our salvation is also maintained and secured by faith. We cannot earn our own salvation. Therefore, neither can we earn the maintenance of our salvation. It is God who maintains our salvation {Jude 24} It is God’s hand that holds us firmly in His grasp {John 10:28-29}. It is God’s love that nothing can separate us from {Romans 8:38-39} Any denial of eternal security is, in its essence, a belief that we must maintain our own salvation by our own good works and efforts. This is completely antithetical to salvation by grace. We are saved because of Christ’s merits, not our own {Romans 4:3-8}. To claim that we must obey God’s Word or live a godly life to maintain our salvation is saying that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to pay the penalty for our sins. Jesus’ death was absolutely sufficient to pay for all of our sins—past, present, and future, pre-salvation and post-salvation {Romans 5:8; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 2 Corinthians 5:21}. Does this mean that a Christian can live any way he wants to and still be saved? This is essentially a hypothetical question, because the Bible makes it clear that a true Christian will not live “any way he wants to.” Christians are new creations {2 Corinthians 5:17}. "Christians demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit" {Galatians 5:22-23}, "not the acts of the flesh" {Galatians 5:19-21}. JW's are by works--- {1 John 3:6-9} clearly states that a true Christian will not live in continual sin. In response to the accusation that grace promotes sin, the apostle Paul declared, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” {Romans 6:1-2}. Eternal security is not a license to sin. Rather, it is the security of knowing that God’s love is guaranteed for those who trust in Christ. Knowing and understanding God’s tremendous gift of salvation accomplishes the opposite of giving a license to sin. How could anyone, knowing the price Jesus Christ paid for us, go on to live a life of sin {Romans 6:15-23}? How could anyone who understands God’s unconditional and guaranteed love for those who believe, take that love and throw it back in God’s face? Such a person is demonstrating not that eternal security has given him a license to sin, but rather that he or she has not truly experienced salvation through Jesus Christ. “No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him...{1 John 3:6}. MuttleyLaff: |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 3:09am On Jul 14, 2020 |
DappaD:Lolololol...and is that the pure language you spoke...are you absolutely sure you are speaking the truth... |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 3:13am On Jul 14, 2020 |
DappaD:I will leave you to your assured self...you are not even attempting to explain what I asked...and it was a question not meant for you |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 3:15am On Jul 14, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Well I wasn't expecting it from maximus...dappad was not in the picture...so I was only vouching for maximus. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:46am On Jul 14, 2020 |
brocab:
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| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:48am On Jul 14, 2020 |
rabzy:"well" DappaD is Maximus wife, two face of the same coin. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 8:10am On Jul 14, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Lol! You must really think you're quite reasonable with all these your petty accusations |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:36am On Jul 14, 2020 |
rabzy:Sorry my friend, i'm done with the thread! ![]() You are speaking the language of the adversary, so none of our brothers will take you in as one of us. Try to move closer to those who are spirit filled amongst us and stick close to them, it's a language we speak globally, without it you'll always feel God's people are not loving, but once our people notice you're not speaking the pure language, they'll stay away from you even when you're attending meetings as a witness. YOU MUST SPEAK THE PURE LANGUAGE! Goodbye! ![]() |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:39am On Jul 14, 2020*. Modified: 10:35am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Janosky:Janosky: Point of correction Jehovah's servants is NOT a pedophiliac organization Achorladey: Are some of Jehovah's servants paedophiles as your brothers said no organization is free of paedophiles? Was the organization among the many ORGANIZATION summoned in cases related to PAEDOPHILES. I await your response.Janosky: Luke 11:42 Matthew 5:20.. "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees...., you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" Achorladey: I am scribes and pharisee for your eyes because I show the L.C.M and H.C.F [/b]between you and other Christian denominations ![]() [b]Janosky: Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed, 'God, I thank You that I am not like the other men--swindlers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector" Achorladey: How I wish you know HOW JWS fit every inch of this description. How do you view the prayers of other Christian denominations? . You even believe God dey answer their prayer?Janosky: According to Jesus Christ, Is the Pharisee more righteous than Jehovah's servants? Achorladey: There must be a reason JESUS said unless your RIGHTEOUSNESS is greater than that of the PHARISEES. What do you think that meant in REALITY to the disciples? If the PHARISEES are totally bad, Jesus won't tell those he preached to listen to them. Yet Jesus said they should listen to them. Abi Jesus no talk am ![]() Janosky: Romans 7:18-20, Paul had his flaws, cock crowed 3 times because of Peter's sin, Achorladey is the Pharisees more righteous than Jehovah's servants? Achorladey: When you read the whole stuff above, you will find answer to your questions ![]() Janosky: Continue to DECEIVE YOURSELF ![]() Achorladey: After reading the above it looks like you are now coming to REALITY that "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION" has numerous FLAWS just like those other Christian denominations your organization love to call PHARISEES. Yet what did Jesus Christ say, your righteousness must be greater than theirs . The problem is there are too many COMMON FACTORS and DENOMINATORS. |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:42am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Janosky:When you realize that HAPPINESS is not restricted to the confines of your ORGANIZATION . At least you know Jesus Christ himself said so . |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:45am On Jul 14, 2020*. Modified: 10:20am On Jul 14, 2020 |
rabzy:Yes -stay with Spirit filled born again believers-forget the cult's-stick with Jesus, speak the Lord's message and come to join us and be set free! Don't be fooled by Watchtower literature, speak the language of Christ into your heart, don't be threaten by JW fools, stand up and believe Jesus Christ is Lord.. We are chosen not by men-but God chooses us for His Son Jesus Christ-break free from watchtower bondage of torment and come as a soldier of God and Join Christ and His army who fight a war through prayer-against the principalities and the powers of darkness that will only seek it's enemy to draw us further away from the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.... As we read Maximus69 had already dump you like a rag doll-cast you out for what? because you don't speak his language? "This is already a sign-his leading you on the wrong path, Max like a brother to you, have cast you out.. It's not Maximus fault' the Watchtower had already led many into Hell itself. Stand up with boldness, let's stand together in Christ... Maximus69: |
| Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:07am On Jul 14, 2020*. Modified: 10:41am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Janosky:Janosky: The Awake! magazine reports the news and educate everyone on different subject matter in every edition- Health, Culture, etc. Achorladey: Interesting. What is the REPORTS they have published about child abuse in their own very ORGANIZATION that is meant to EDUCATE EVERYONE . Would it not have been better if they had started from their OWN very ORGANIZATION ![]() Janosky: You wan cover up Rape / child abuse that is why that Awake! Magazine edition you screenshot dey pain you. Achorladey: Don't divert the point, you picked out of what is contained in the AWAKE to show why people don't report it and how your organization too don't report it and you even stated how many have I reported. Yet you picked the case of the CATHOLIC to REORIENTED others while yours you keep it under COVER ![]() Janosky: WUCKED man ! ![]() Achorladey: Not new no be today labels and tagss dey fly from your mouth. Janosky: 2005 Awake! Magazine issue on "Global Epidemic " and the other Awake! issue "Rape / Child Abuse were based on credible sources, Bros ,why E dey pain you like say JWs dey probe your hidden secrets ![]() Achorladey: Was the discussion about CREDIBLE SOURCES or NOT? You want to divert the point made. Why not use what your own VERY organization does as the credible source. Or the cases in your ORGANIZATION as case studies or means of educating others ![]() Janosky: Even before you were born JWs have been educating Jehovah's servants and the entire world about the dangers of child abuse. Achorladey: Good for the organization, only they didn't use their own PECULIAR cases to EDUCATE others. Education about child abuse is not restricted to only your own religious organization. The topic is not about education on child abuse. Its about the common factors and denominators you share with every other Christian denominations ![]() Janosky: Where is the cover up in this screenshot of the Watchtower study articles you posted on this forum? Achorladey: When I say you are always lost in DISCUSSION, I mean it. You feel when you jammed all your sources like you do takes anything away from the main point of discussion. The screenshot is to bring to your NOTICE the BIGOTRY and LIES you and your brothers wanted to place on me by saying all what is cited are PREJUDICED and LIES against your ORGANIZATION. It is to show you when they say you have paedophiles in your midst, it not to a LIE against the organization. So don't go about saying it all lies and BIGOTRY. Since you are now saying the watchtower is not covering up, then it confirms what has been said, paedophiles are in your midst. Janosky: To teach JW parents and teach everyone who reads our Magazines how to Protect Children from Abuse, Achorladey say na cover up ![]() Achorladey: Are you teaching everyone in that particular magazine I cited or your members strictly since the particular watchtower is not the public edition. Hope you get the sense now. |
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