Ariza:
Lol... The beginning of the chapter says:
Now, Concerning the things whereof you wrote to me:It is good for a man to touch a woman?

2) Nevertheless, to avoid fornication,let every man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband....
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7)For I would that all man were even as I myself.But every man has his proper give of God....
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows it is good for them to remain as I am

9) BUT if they can not CONTAIN, let them MARRY. For it is better to Marry than to Burn.


Now those commands rather Words of Advice (Because Paul said he spoke out of Permission not Commands) are for every Christians not those in Ministry alone. People intend to limit Celibacy to Those in Ministry or those who took vows of Celibacy.

thanks for schooling these folks that take scripture out of context.

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DrFunmisticGlow:
thanks for schooling these folks that take scripture out of context.

Lol.. I think it's time Christians and Bible scholars start correcting that habit in people. People who quote scriptures out of context mostimes make Christianity choking which isn't true.

Klass99:


My bad mouth friend

I like your take on this.

Babe if you can really CONTAIN without falling in this Christian race, I dey your back. Having no earthly commitment makes Fellowshipping with God easier, more effective and has lots of benefits. Some of us just don't have that GIFT. I pray God see you through and I believe if he wants something different for you,He will reach out to you.


BTW I don't have bad mouth anymore oooo. I don repent.

Ariza:

7) For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man has his proper gift of God, one after his manner, and another after that

Lol, it's easy to tell when someone reads a verse and obtains a literal meaning out of it without a deeper understanding.

Chapter seven in its entirety is Paul responding to things he was asked in a letter.

You can get more clarification on the meaning of verse 7 on your own, use references or a concordance and the Expositor's study passage.

This is something like what you'll see:

7. For I would that all men were as myself (celibate), BUT they would need to be after my (Paul's) manner in having the proper gift of God (in ministry) to effectively & successfully practice celibacy.

Klass99. It is good that you decided to stick to what works for you. It is rare to find that in this controlled and bias environment we find ourselves.

However, pls refrain from spreading the notion that sex is more than physical for women aside prostitutes . This is an outdated and very limiting mindset .

Sex can be whatever anyone wants it, and he or she doesn’t have to engage in it for money.

Next time, speak for yourself pls.
Cheers and congrats on making your own rules.

Klass99, who be the frustratedlady wey dey follow you upandan, dey cancel your comments?
Wetin you do am?
You owe am money?

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Unnerve:

You can get more clarification on the meaning of verse 7 on your own, use references or a concordance and the Expositor's study passages.

This is something like what you'll see:
7. For I would that all men were as myself (celibate), but they would need to be after my (Paul's) manner in having the proper gift of God (in ministry) to effectively & successfully practice celibacy.

Lol... Are you saying only those in MINISTRY should practice Celibacy? Why does God warn against fornication then?

Now going by your analogy do you know that every child of God has a Ministry? Which are different according to God's purpose. Do you limit ministry to the likes of Adeboye and Pope Francis? Lol... Every Christian has a gift, power and grace bestowed on them by the Holy ghost according to the Ministry they are being prepared for. Not every Christian will be like Paul (A great Revivalist and Evangelist) some are called into other Ministeries Like Deliverance Ministry, Intercessory Ministry, Giving Ministry, Song Ministry etc. Not everyone will be an Apostle Like Paul so not every Christian needs or wants to be celibate for LIFE. However there is General Law for all. Flee Fornication, if you can't hold it, Go and Marry.

Klass99:


No issues, I totally get you.

In my experience though, people are not genuinely interested in understanding. They are more interested in debating the point, projecting their own beliefs on me and disrespecting my beliefs/choice by telling me there's something wrong with me and their own thinking is far more superior.

But hey, we are cool. I didn't take offence at any of your comments. I just felt weary/wary but I enjoyed the civil engagement with you. By the way, I like the differences between the male and female anatomy too much, to take a vow of celibacy for life

Lol, this is exactly the point of the verse that Ariza is taking at face value.

A person (one who is not called to the ministry that requires celibacy) will not be able to practice true celibacy. It is not for every man but only those with that specific gift of God for a ministry requiring celibacy.


And by the way, celibacy is for life.
The confusion is because people think that what they're doing by not having sex before marriage is called celibacy. It is not, that is simply abstinence from sex until marriage.

Celibacy is an abstinence from both sex, sexual behaviour and marriage (lifelong commitment). Meaning, no kissing or smooching or romancing sef

Only an Apostle Paul or those today with that gift, can effectively do that. We must not kid ourselves.

Ariza:
Lol... Are you saying only those in MINISTRY should practice Celibacy? Why does God warn against fornication then?

Now going by your analogy do you know that every child of God has a Ministry? Which are different according to God's purpose. Do you limit ministry to the likes of Adeboye and Pope Francis? Lol... Every Christian has a gift, power and grace bestowed on them by the Holy ghost according to the Ministry they are being prepared for. Now every Christian will be like Paul (A great Revivalist and Evangelist) some are called into other Ministeries Like Deliverance Ministry, Intercessory Ministry, Giving Ministry, Song Ministry etc. Not everyone will be an Apostle Like Paul so not every Christian needs to be celibate for LIFE. However there is General Law for all. Flee Fornication, if you can't hold it, Go and Marry.

It's not everyone who is in ministry that needs to be celibate. There is a specific type of ministry, the type which Apostle Paul practiced that requires celibacy.

See my post above to Klass regarding the difference between abstinence (fleeing formication until marriage) and celibacy.

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FrustratedLady:

Klass99:


Whether abstinence and celibacy are different, in my mind it still boils down to the same thing.

Paul said marry if you cannot control yourself, marry to avoid burning in fornication, so any how you want to analyze the matter. Ar iza, is not off point either.

Rebel

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Klass99:


You're just hopeless

It boils down to the same thing, because I am not fuccking anyone for now and haven't done so in a looonnng long time and I like the benefits too.

Don't ask me how long it has been o!

How can you just drop this caveat and then expect my curiosity will not be amplified tenfold?

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Klass99:


Babe, I swear I wasn't heading any where with my question or trying to trap you into a war of words.

I was honestly trying to understand the desire and motivation most women have for children, because I don't feel it and I don't have the same motivation.

So, I am truly perplexed by it the same way I imagine other women are perplexed by me.

Imagine your old age without your children and grandchildren surrounding your table.

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Klass99:


You're just hopeless

It boils down to the same thing, because I am not fuccking anyone for now and haven't done so in a looonnng long time and I like the benefits too.

Don't ask me how long it has been o!

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Sleepaway:
The young lady wrote on her page on Facebook:


As a girl it's norm to always love and want kids but in my case it's different. I always thought I liked kids until I turned 15 and then I started living with my aunt and her triplets, I know you'd probably be thinking it's cause triplets are normally snakes and pests and they often unite to cause havoc in general but no, funny but they don't even like each other, they always fight themselves and whenever you try to be friendly they immediately start being friendly then they start doing abnormal things just to get you into trouble or just to have something to say to their mum and dad. Aunt did this and that. Not that their parents pay any attention to them or their reports it was just frustrating at that time and it got me thinking. At some point I slapped the shit out of one of them and I felt no atom of pain or pity I felt that murderous hatred I almost torn him into pieces I just walked into my room and shut the door cause I was ready to kill, flashback to presently my crelatives have been talking to me about kids and I don't know how to tell them that I do not want to have kids, I fear I might be a terrible mother and well I don't know I just don't want them. When I think about all the things I've done to children without any pity it just bugs me and I know for a fact kids and me don't equal wellness it equals pure unpitied self-centered disastrous HATE.
Now is it normal for me to feel thatway, are there others like me or am i just a freak that needs help??

Hmmm nairalanders

While it is not unusual to not want kids, it is unusual to actually hate children and feel no empathy for them. That part you need to excise out of your mind. Hatred is a terrible emotion to harbour and can cause you to do things that will be regretful.