MuttleyLaff:
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Have I ever solicited tithe from you or anyone you know?

two things are involved, is either you are collecting it as a pastor or you are paying him as as a church member

MuttleyLaff:
Where does royal priesthood belong?
Is it the Levitical order or the Melchizedek order?
The kingly and priestly statuses we are enjoying is in line with the order of Melchizedek style. Didnt you compute that ni?

It is in the Levitical order that you are restricted to only doing temple duties/work and nothing else. As a Levite, you aren't expected to earn a secular living. You are not entitled to have an inheritance or own a land. Every other tribe in Israel had a land inheritance except for the tribe of Levi

Which Came First and Who is Greater? Is it not Melchizedek, Whom we are told his birth is Unknown and his death, also Unknown (Does He not look like someone we know? ) Hebrews 7:3.

Seeing the Similarity of Melchizedek to Christ, I think it safe and reasonable to come to the conclusion that "as it was in the beginning, so shall it be" That we have begun Our Trip Back to the Beginning, With Everything once more, Starting with Christ, the Word, (John 1:1-4), Again!

The Role and Job of the Levites have been Taken Over, by the Lord, Himself!

And if Taken Over, then the.Duties of the Levites have been Discharged!

And all Obligations Owed them, Are Now therefore, Released!

Jones4190:
two things are involved, is either you are collecting it as a pastor or you are paying him as as a church member

"You must each decide in your heart how much to give.
And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure.
(i.e. You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give)
“For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.”"
- 2 Corinthians 9:7

I don't do either. I hold good to a 2 Corinthians 9:7 superior principle

I agree with Apostle Paul, Do your secular work alongside ministry unless God expressly commands you not to work.

The last i heard of Apostle Arome Osayi was that he will continue his secular work alongside ministry until God tells him to stop secular work. This he said he heard expressly from the Lord


I think this pattern is easier to accept for people that have solid white collar or blue collar jobs or solid businesses though....

What matters most is What God is saying.....and if you dont know what God is saying about it then atleast how has God worked with others in the past?

Dtruthspeaker:
Which Came First and Who is Greater? Is it not Melchizedek, Whom we are told his birth is Unknown and his death, also Unknown (Does He not look like someone we know? ) Hebrews 7:3.

Seeing the Similarity of Melchizedek to Christ, I think it safe and reasonable to come to the conclusion that "as it was in the beginning, so shall it be" That we have begun Our Trip Back to the Beginning, With Everything once more, Starting with Christ, the Word, (John 1:1-4), Again!

The Role and Job of the Levites have been Taken Over, by the Lord, Himself!

And if Taken Over, then the.Duties of the Levites have been Discharged!

And all Obligations Owed them, Are Now therefore, Released!

"Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:"
- Ecclesiastes 4:9

Just because Melchizedek's birth and birth was unknown, doesn't mean nor imply that Melchizedek had no date of birth and date of death. You don't understand the POV, Hebrews 7:3 is making

1/ What is/are the major points that qualifies one to be a Levite?
2/ Why did Jesus adopt and favour the Melchizedek priesthood order over the Levitical priesthood?

Two is stronger than one. Since the Levitical order is singular, and the order of Melchizedek is dual, then Ecclesiastes 4:9 above, attests that the Melchizedek priesthood order is better, superior, not limited like the Levitical order is.

We are doing full circle, cycling back to the beginning in everything

karo93:
I agree with Apostle Paul, Do your secular work alongside ministry unless God expressly commands you not to work.

The last i heard of Apostle Arome Osayi was that he will continue his secular work alongside ministry until God tells him to stop secular work. This he said he heard expressly from the Lord


I think this pattern is easier to accept for people that have solid white collar or blue collar jobs though....

What matters most is What God is saying.....and if you dont know what God is saying about it then atleast how has God worked with others in the past?

White collar or blue collar jobs (i.e. job means "just over broke" work) aren't the only means having or ways creating wealth.

MuttleyLaff:
White collar or blue collar jobs (i.e. job means "just over broke" work) aren't the only means having or ways creating wealth.

Noted. I will modify and add "and solid businesses" to it

karo93:
Noted. I will modify and add "and solid businesses" to it

There is something called, get to a point, that money begins to effortlessly work for you (e.g. as a regular passive income et cetera), than you tirelessly working for money, which often peanut(s), is this case.

The Holy Spirit is the best person to ask this question cos only He knows the mind of God concerning your ministry and not anyone here. People can only give suggestions based on their human understanding but as you pray, the Holy Spirit will naturally guide/lead you into how He wants you to go about it without much struggles.

Pray, pray, pray and pray about it.

Shalom.

dingbang:
Jesus, the son of God, the I am that I am, the way the truth and the life, he did a side hustle o.. He was a carpenter. He was doing it without shame sef.

Your problem is that you live off from the opinions of people which is bad.

Jesus was not a carpenter. He was the foster son of Joseph the carpenter.

Eulalia:


Jesus was not a carpenter. He was the foster son of Joseph the carpenter.

But the bible said he was a carpenter in the book of Mark.

Daejoyoung:

But the bible said he was a carpenter in the book of Mark.

Ehen .... This Bible self. Person no dey read am finish .

Where in mark let me quickly verify

Thank you.

Eulalia:


Ehen .... This Bible self. Person no dey read am finish .

Where in mark let me quickly verify

Thank you.

Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.
Mark 6v3

Eulalia:
The Holy Spirit is the best person to ask this question cos only He knows the mind of God concerning your ministry and not anyone here. People can only give suggestions based on their human understanding but as you pray, the Holy Spirit will naturally guide/lead you into how He wants you to go about it without much struggles.

Pray, pray, pray and pray about it.

Shalom.

Thank you so much

Daejoyoung:


Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.
Mark 6v3

Does the Bible say that He practiced this trade after He was baptized though?

Kobojunkie:
Does the Bible say that He practiced this trade after He was baptized though?

No

Ay92:

Thank you so much

You're welcome.

Daejoyoung:


Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.
Mark 6v3

Ok.

MuttleyLaff:
"Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:"
- Ecclesiastes 4:9

Just because Melchizedek's birth and birth was unknown, doesn't mean nor imply that Melchizedek had no date of birth and date of death. You don't understand the POV, Hebrews 7:3 is making

1/ What is/are the major points that qualifies one to be a Levite?
2/ Why did Jesus adopt and favour the Melchizedek priesthood order over the Levitical priesthood?

Two is stronger than one. Since the Levitical order is singular, and the order of Melchizedek is dual, then Ecclesiastes 4:9 above, attests that the Melchizedek priesthood order is better, superior, not limited like the Levitical order is.

We are doing full circle, cycling back to the beginning in everything

By implication, you are Equating, King Melchizedek, King of Righteousness (Sound familiar?), King of Salem, meaning, King of Peace (Who do we call the Prince of Peace Again?) to the Similitude of Sin-Full children of Levi?

Even in the Clear Presentation that Melchizedek was a Great High Priest of God, Whom the Great father of Levi, Abraham, without Whom, there would be no Levi, Paid Obeisance and Received Blessings from Him,?

And even to the very defying that Paul, whom you first claimed, had Expressly Said "And without all contradiction the less is blessed of a better?

Well, all these debates are going aside the issue, which I say, pastors and Priests fend for yourselves and disturb no one as it was in the beginning whilst you say they are Levites in the Order of Melchizedek!

So judgment of it goes to both the people out there and to the Lord High Above All!!

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

MODS, I DON'T MIND IF IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE

My advise for you is to pray to God for direction he'll show you the way.

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

MODS, I DON'T MIND IF IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE

If you don't want to depend on people believe in God. God is enough. If God is leading you, you don't need any side job

Dtruthspeaker:
By implication, you are Equating, King Melchizedek, King of Righteousness (Sound familiar?), King of Salem, meaning, King of Peace (Who do we call the Prince of Peace Again?) to the Similitude of Sin-Full children of Levi?

Even in the Clear Presentation that Melchizedek was a Great High Priest of God, Whom the Great father of Levi, Abraham, without Whom, there would be no Levi, Paid Obeisance and Received Blessings from Him,?

And even to the very defying that Paul, whom you first claimed, had Expressly Said "And without all contradiction the less is blessed of a better?

"For, “Who can know the LORD’s thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?”
But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ."
- 1 Corinthians 2:16

"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
- 2 Corinthians 5:21

By implication, I am informing you that Jesus raised His nose, to ignore and/or disregard the Levitical priesthood in favour of the order of Melchizedek

Every believer, man, woman, son, daughter or child of God are dissimilar as the Sin-Full children of Levi because we operate in order of Melchizedek, working and ruling secularly as kings also spiritually be a mediatory agent between humans and God, specifically as priests, the same way Melchizedek was for Abraham. You do know, the Bible only addressed Abraham to be a prophet, but never a priest, except for in apocryphal source(s)

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MuttleyLaff:
Levite is old school. We are using the Melchizedek priesthood order, which is secular (i.e. king) and spiritual (i.e. priest).
The Levitical priesthood is spiritual only, it is something of a handicap, it is limiting.

Jesus overlooked the Levitical priesthood, to prefer and select the Melchizedek priesthood for us.

MuttleyLaff:
We are not operating the Levitical order, but we are using a superior order of Melchizedek

MuttleyLaff:
"Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:"
- Ecclesiastes 4:9

Just because Melchizedek's birth and birth was unknown, doesn't mean nor imply that Melchizedek had no date of birth and date of death. You don't understand the POV, Hebrews 7:3 is making

1/ What is/are the major points that qualifies one to be a Levite?
2/ Why did Jesus adopt and favour the Melchizedek priesthood order over the Levitical priesthood?

Two is stronger than one. Since the Levitical order is singular, and the order of Melchizedek is dual, then Ecclesiastes 4:9 above, attests that the Melchizedek priesthood order is better, superior, not limited like the Levitical order is.

We are doing full circle, cycling back to the beginning in everything

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Dtruthspeaker:
Well, all these debates are going aside the issue, which I say, pastors and Priests fend for ourselves and disturb no one as it was in the beginning whilst you say they are Levites in the Order of Melchizedek!

So judgment of it goes to both the people out there and to the Lord High Above All!!

Where did I say "pastors and priests" are Levites in the Order of Melchizedek?

MuttleyLaff:
"For, “Who can know the LORD’s thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?”
But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ."
- 1 Corinthians 2:16

"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
- 2 Corinthians 5:21

By implication, I am informing you that Jesus raised His nose, to ignore and/or disregard the Levitical priesthood in favour of the order of Melchizedek

Every believer, man, woman, son, daughter or child of God are dissimilar as the Sin-Full children of Levi because we operate in order of Melchizedek, working and ruling secularly as kings also spiritually be a mediatory agent between humans and God, specifically as priests, the same way Melchizedek was for Abraham. You do know, the Bible only addressed Abraham to be a prophet, but never a priest, except for in apocryphal source(s)

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Where did I say "pastors and priests" are Levites in the Order of Melchizedek?

, we are saying the same thing from different stand points. I was holding focus that you were advocating for the pastors and Priests (the issue of this thread) in accordance to the Levites and that you tied it in to Melchizedek.

Truly All things Are One with God and in God!

Sorry for the mix up, but I did enjoy the banter, hope you did.

Dtruthspeaker:
, we are saying the same thing from different stand points. I was holding focus that you were advocating for the pastors and Priests (the issue of this thread) in accordance to the Levites and that you tied it in to Melchizedek.

Sorry for the mix up, but I did enjoy the banter, hope you did.

Enjoy is my second middle name. I did, I enjoyed it as much as you, if not more than you.

MuttleyLaff:
Enjoy is my second middle name. I did, I enjoyed it as much as you, if not more than you.

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

European Pastors have professional jobs and their pastor job is a part time job.

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

Working in the vineyard of God is tantamount to work, and every Labourer is worthy of His wages.

Whatever you need you should ask from God because you work for Him and He'll provide for you.

Now you can't serve two Master else your mind will be divided and love one more than the other, but God wants you wholly for His work and you should attend to Him, else things won't go well.

Going to learn barbing is even not necessary, it's like telling God you're not interested in what He has for you and while you are learning barbing I'm sure the angels of your ministry will just be quite angry at you while God will just be laffing you, lolz .

Way-forward: wholly dedicate and devote yourself to what God has set you to do, be zealous and let Him direct you on how to go about it. You can open your barbing shop but don't involve yourself with it put som1 there and let him deliver to you.

God makes way out of no way. Lean not on your understanding in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.

Nephilim:
Working in the vineyard of God is tantamount to work, and every Labourer is worthy of His wages.

Whatever you need you should ask from God because you work for Him and He'll provide for you.

Now you can't serve two Master else your mind will be divided and love one more than the other, but God wants you wholly for His work and you should attend to Him, else things won't go well.

Going to learn barbing is even not necessary, it's like telling God you're not interested in what He has for you and while you are learning barbing I'm sure the angels of your ministry will just be quite angry at you while God will just be laffing you, lolz .

Way-forward: wholly dedicate and devote yourself to what God has set you to do, be zealous and let Him direct you on how to go about it. You can open your barbing shop but don't involve yourself with it put som1 there and let him deliver to you.

God makes way out of no way. Lean not on your understanding in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.

Wow!
I feel immensely blessed and touched by your post. It's not that I don't believe in God for provision but my fiancee and her people are not patient enough. I understand that we're both getting old but a woman will always be a woman, I don't care much about my age. I don't wanna lose her either that's why I'm contemplating about having a side job

Ay92:

Wow!
I feel immensely blessed and touched by your post. It's not that I don't believe in God for provision but my fiancee and her people are not patient enough. I understand that we're both getting old but a woman will always be a woman, I don't care much about my age. I don't wanna lose her either that's why I'm contemplating about having a side job

you welcome brother!

Don't worry too much about your financee, it's expected of her to do so, just try to admonish her to understand with you. If she believes with you her parents won't have issue either.

God that has called you into the ministry will not put you to shame.. When I was going to start He says "don't worry I'll supply all your needs and even bring that woman to you" today it's all making sense and I give God all the glory, Amen.

Nephilim:
you welcome brother!

Don't worry too much about your financee, it's expected of her to do so, just try to admonish her to understand with you. If she believes with you her parents won't have issue either.

God that has called you into the ministry will not put you to shame.. When I was going to start He says "don't worry I'll supply all your needs and even bring that woman to you" today it's all making sense and I give God all the glory, Amen.

I can't thank you enough for the mature words of encouragement, God bless you

Ay92:


This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy.

How did you know about this?

Ay92:



But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job.

What would you had rather done? The issue of unemployment is pervasive in the country.

Ay92:


So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers.

Barbing is like an art. What is your field of study?

Ay92:



I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago

To go and do what, exactly?

Ay92:



after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.

Is this really scriptural? Can you locate instances of this in the Scriptures?

What ministry is that?

Ay92:

But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God,

When was the first time you got this supposed call?

Ay92:

and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them.

Do they have their own churches?

Ay92:
" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

Except if God specifically says not to. Paul was doing tent construction as a side job. Secondly most denominational Pastors have jobs . They are mostly volunteers in Pastoring .